Good point. Since part of the purpose of the campaign is to gauge the market potential of the thing, there is probably a sum below which he won't do that, though... but that sum is also probably quite a bit below the stated goal.
True. And it also may be in his best interest to fake some market potential by a series of incremental boosts. Showing something can be done increases interest in the endeavor, creating more market potential.
I think it's pretty clear cut when you go and actually look at the company. There are buildings, computers and paper and all kinds of machines sometimes. But none of those make decisions. When you watch a company in operation, you'll notice that it is the people that are making the decisions. A system is not capable of that.
Ah. Well here's a different point of view for you: there's no such thing really as a company -- in truth, there are only people that make up a company.
A company cannot make any decision that isn't made by a person who made that decision. And the CEO makes the final decision in a company.
There's an underlying assumption in your response that profits are bad.
Because we have a finite amount of resources as a nation (man hours, kilowatts, lumber, etc.) at any given time, the only way to make everyone richer is to use those resources as efficiently as we possibly can to provide what people need and want.
Profit is the measurement of how efficiently an endeavor is providing what is needed and wanted. Therefore, it is not always evil and always has an element of good to it.
Notice I didn't say it is always good. If a company makes decisions that deny to some people what is needed and wanted, in order to provide to a select few what is needed and wanted for the purpose of profit, then they have not been as good as they could have been. So thus, Microsoft is more evil and Red Hat is more good.
But to over-simplify the truth and say, "Profits are an evil motivator," is, as over-simplification always is, ignorant. There's an unwillingness to really look at everything when you over-simplify so you are by default being ignorant of the whole truth.
Business is not always evil. In fact sometimes business interests are very good.
But people are prone to make sweeping assumptions because of one company at one particular time making a bad decision. In truth, as with all things, businesses need to be evaluated on a case by case basis.
And yet, within less than 12 hours, they've hit 3/4 of a million US dollars. Watching them over a 10 minute period, after this story went live on Slashdot, they've gone from $650,000 to $750,000. I think the enthusiasts are onboard.
Keep in mind that the enthusiasts for this project go beyond the Ubuntu Desktop OS enthusiasts. I am a dedicated Ubuntu Desktop OS hater. I'm a Linux Mint guy myself. But I want to see a pure Linux desktop OS succeed on mobile, because it opens the door for others to follow. Rooting your Ubuntu Phone could create a massive amount of ROM flashing options.
The phone that launches a full desktop when docked (and has 128 GB of storage!) is a game changer in the mobile market. So, fanbois of any stripe can be an enthusiast for this project.
Multi-national companies don't have the power to imprison me, make things I'm doing illegal in order to harass me or silence my speech by unequal protection of the law as in the IRS abuses scandal. They also only know of me what I complicently allow them to know. I am not required to file a disclosure of all my financial data to any company.
The bottom line is that government when corrupt is far more dangerous than when a business is corrupt.
And, of course, China and Russia have little impact on my Civil Liberties.
What a truly benevolent corporation! "We will not require you to let us spy on what you do!" they exclaim. Now we should do our duty and thank them with exaggerated applause.
Let's say what you say is true. Snowden is a liar.
Would you kindly tell us if he is lying about the SUBSTANCE of his claims and not some trivial manner? Why are you attacking his curiousity and not attaching WHAT HE SAID you are doing?
We, the voters have a choice. Either start supporting ONLY politicians who fight back against this suppression of our Constitutional rights, or our Republic is doomed.
Today is the 64th anniversary of the publication of George Orwell's 1984. Support candidates who fight that suppression. Rand Paul is looking really good for 2016.
With the increase of surveillance, I resist having the knee-jerk reaction to completely stop it. After all, technology is rarely stopped completely because of ethical concerns.
Instead, the solution to prevent the ethical concerns brought about are to embrace the technology. We could also add surveillance of all government offices and complete public access of all surveillance not part of a criminal investigation to the Bill of Rights. That would be a truly free society.
Let's assume that this paper was insufficiently detailed. Then they should not waste their time.
I fail to see how that justifies entertaining themselves by degrading themselves to the level of a gossip columnist. It's an activity that doesn't pertain to science in the least.
Instead of all this babbling and opining on the manâ(TM)s write-up, apply the Scientific Method and REPEAT the experiment per the writing. And until youâ(TM)ve done that, shut up about it.
Leave the debate to the fields of politics and journalism where they belong. Science is about LOOKING! If you look and you find it to be false, THEN share your results. Until then, you've lowered yourself to the level of a TV Talking Head. That's a very low place for a Scientist to sink to.
I think there is a very good comparison to be made between Hackathons and Drum Solos. They aren't truly entertaining to most people. They only appeal to the obsessed aficionado of a very narrow field.
I therefor recommend a secret password to the entry door that involves a random 256-bit password. Those who get in will feel even more special about attending.
Yeah. I'm also tired of self-righteous people claiming we shouldn't have fun because, somewhere there's a person with a need. Life isn't about sacrificing all your interests to the need of others. Even Jesus let his feet get washed from time to time.
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Good point. Since part of the purpose of the campaign is to gauge the market potential of the thing, there is probably a sum below which he won't do that, though... but that sum is also probably quite a bit below the stated goal.
True. And it also may be in his best interest to fake some market potential by a series of incremental boosts. Showing something can be done increases interest in the endeavor, creating more market potential.
This campaign can be paid off immediately on any morning that Mark wakes up, yawns and decides to click donate in his own campaign.
I think it's pretty clear cut when you go and actually look at the company. There are buildings, computers and paper and all kinds of machines sometimes. But none of those make decisions. When you watch a company in operation, you'll notice that it is the people that are making the decisions. A system is not capable of that.
Ah. Well here's a different point of view for you: there's no such thing really as a company -- in truth, there are only people that make up a company.
A company cannot make any decision that isn't made by a person who made that decision. And the CEO makes the final decision in a company.
I must assume that someone who paints every CEO in the entire country as a sociopath has probably never gotten to know one.
There's an underlying assumption in your response that profits are bad.
Because we have a finite amount of resources as a nation (man hours, kilowatts, lumber, etc.) at any given time, the only way to make everyone richer is to use those resources as efficiently as we possibly can to provide what people need and want.
Profit is the measurement of how efficiently an endeavor is providing what is needed and wanted. Therefore, it is not always evil and always has an element of good to it.
Notice I didn't say it is always good. If a company makes decisions that deny to some people what is needed and wanted, in order to provide to a select few what is needed and wanted for the purpose of profit, then they have not been as good as they could have been. So thus, Microsoft is more evil and Red Hat is more good.
But to over-simplify the truth and say, "Profits are an evil motivator," is, as over-simplification always is, ignorant. There's an unwillingness to really look at everything when you over-simplify so you are by default being ignorant of the whole truth.
Business is not always evil. In fact sometimes business interests are very good.
But people are prone to make sweeping assumptions because of one company at one particular time making a bad decision. In truth, as with all things, businesses need to be evaluated on a case by case basis.
And yet, within less than 12 hours, they've hit 3/4 of a million US dollars. Watching them over a 10 minute period, after this story went live on Slashdot, they've gone from $650,000 to $750,000. I think the enthusiasts are onboard.
Keep in mind that the enthusiasts for this project go beyond the Ubuntu Desktop OS enthusiasts. I am a dedicated Ubuntu Desktop OS hater. I'm a Linux Mint guy myself. But I want to see a pure Linux desktop OS succeed on mobile, because it opens the door for others to follow. Rooting your Ubuntu Phone could create a massive amount of ROM flashing options.
The phone that launches a full desktop when docked (and has 128 GB of storage!) is a game changer in the mobile market. So, fanbois of any stripe can be an enthusiast for this project.
We solved that mystery just in time for 1988.
While the only guarantee on Google's is that no one has checked a single line of the code, besides the author.
If it's about the appstore you use, then F-droid has a leg up. Unlike Google's, everything on F-Droid has had human eyes look at what it does.
As SJHillman pointed out. A corrupt corporation has no power without a corrupt government.
Multi-national companies don't have the power to imprison me, make things I'm doing illegal in order to harass me or silence my speech by unequal protection of the law as in the IRS abuses scandal. They also only know of me what I complicently allow them to know. I am not required to file a disclosure of all my financial data to any company.
The bottom line is that government when corrupt is far more dangerous than when a business is corrupt.
And, of course, China and Russia have little impact on my Civil Liberties.
"NVIDIA's Android-based gaming gaming handheld ..." ... for double the gaming too!
This looks like the shortest, most consise piece of FUD I've ever seen.
I wonder if next week I could get a story published that say, "I don't know if Microsoft is spying on you through your webcam. So it could be true."
They are trying to say that Monsanto is injecting more plant SALES by making the food artificial. I'm sure.
What a truly benevolent corporation! "We will not require you to let us spy on what you do!" they exclaim. Now we should do our duty and thank them with exaggerated applause.
Let's say what you say is true. Snowden is a liar.
Would you kindly tell us if he is lying about the SUBSTANCE of his claims and not some trivial manner? Why are you attacking his curiousity and not attaching WHAT HE SAID you are doing?
We, the voters have a choice. Either start supporting ONLY politicians who fight back against this suppression of our Constitutional rights, or our Republic is doomed.
Today is the 64th anniversary of the publication of George Orwell's 1984. Support candidates who fight that suppression. Rand Paul is looking really good for 2016.
With the increase of surveillance, I resist having the knee-jerk reaction to completely stop it. After all, technology is rarely stopped completely because of ethical concerns.
Instead, the solution to prevent the ethical concerns brought about are to embrace the technology. We could also add surveillance of all government offices and complete public access of all surveillance not part of a criminal investigation to the Bill of Rights. That would be a truly free society.
Applesoft Basic here also. I knew so many peeks and pokes...
Let's assume that this paper was insufficiently detailed. Then they should not waste their time.
I fail to see how that justifies entertaining themselves by degrading themselves to the level of a gossip columnist. It's an activity that doesn't pertain to science in the least.
Instead of all this babbling and opining on the manâ(TM)s write-up, apply the Scientific Method and REPEAT the experiment per the writing. And until youâ(TM)ve done that, shut up about it.
Leave the debate to the fields of politics and journalism where they belong. Science is about LOOKING! If you look and you find it to be false, THEN share your results. Until then, you've lowered yourself to the level of a TV Talking Head. That's a very low place for a Scientist to sink to.
I think there is a very good comparison to be made between Hackathons and Drum Solos. They aren't truly entertaining to most people. They only appeal to the obsessed aficionado of a very narrow field.
I therefor recommend a secret password to the entry door that involves a random 256-bit password. Those who get in will feel even more special about attending.
Yeah. I'm also tired of self-righteous people claiming we shouldn't have fun because, somewhere there's a person with a need. Life isn't about sacrificing all your interests to the need of others. Even Jesus let his feet get washed from time to time.