I think the karma for adds is a bit much, has some good things, but other bad ones. I think the re-wards should not be in terms of "adds" but in other features slashdot bring them. Or discounts at stores.
I think alowing each use to chose custom adds, and comment on them is a wonderful idea. And "karma" should be based on that alone. Not clicking, or chosing the bigger banner
The problem with banner adds isn't that they don't work, its that people can tell when the banner gets a direct respons(click/sale). Also many banners are anoying and even offensive.
Many adds I see are trying to get someone to "click" on them. And nothing else. Think of how many TV comercials are there only to get people to call them?
As far as demographics content goes, I would go as deap as "state" and no more. Also let each user select more than one. There are many reasons for this, 1. On the East coast you can easliy live 40 min from 5 different states, 2. Many of us travel.
The peopel making banners need to do a little more home work. Showing pictures of women or tricking customers to click on an add makes things worse. I think the biggest reason why people hate banners, is that it takes to long to download compaird to the rest of the content. This is because of illeagle cookies, slow banner servers, large banners.
The internet is about information. And what makes the internet what it is today is that its free.
Companies need to realize that the "net" is not there to get rich off of. That this e*crap* is crap. The internet is a way to: expand your existing customer base, better server your customers/potential customers.
However, I would pay for some features, like a really good pure web based e-mail, or my online bill paying company. I will not pay for "content", nor will I pay per use type charges.
I think the online adds need to change. They should pay for a number of visitors they are shown to, much like any other add industry. They also need to start using effictive adds. I think "ThinkGeek"s adds are good at this, but most adds don't even spark my intress.
People are that stupid, and they like being that stupid. They brag about it, and calim to be victims. Don't beleave me? Then why do us "computer nerds" have to show people how to use a program that we never have used? And show them the seam feature over and over?
No, it tried adding things to the web, it was also netscape that added graphics. The only pages that wouldn;t work on other sites was when frames was used, but they made a way for non frame people can use it too.
Infact everything ns did they made sure it wouldn't screw people who didn't use ns.
MS came in, created tags for the SAME thing. Not to add to it. And there tags are often very much ie where you can't use the page if you don'e have ie. (such as ms modification to the framgs tags)
Your just an idiot, I program for the web and have been since 94/95. Close all tags, even if not really needed, close the tags.
If the code isn't done right, then its not ns fault, its the coders. If ns has problems even when done corectly then its ns fault.
BTW, your example does work on ns and I beleave is also leagle under w3c. Its people like you, and the author of that website that ruin the web.
I hate most of the warnings that come from the browsers.
Such as if you want to encrypt something internaly and don't want to pay 500 bucks so verisign can sign off on it, all your users will get a "scary" message. Or the message you get when you post a form on a generic website when it uses your e-mail to send out the post not cgi.
It is a monopoly, those other products that you listed are better in many ways. (To this day I can't understand how poeople can even use ms office, its such crap) They mantain there monopoly by keeping incompatibe w/ competing products,(or older ones) bullying "customers".
Who else came up w/ byeing software then paying for using it? Or the crap software "agreements"? Or having IE intergrated into your os? Those was all forced to us because we don't really have a choise.
Ya I can use linux 100%, but I can only do 10% of what I use to.
If such a system was put in place, none of it should be patented and all of it should be open source. Nothing closed or hidden. No hardware, no software. No one is to "own" anything about it. They just work on it and paid to work on it. There should never be only 1 vendor for something.
Also, it would have to be in testing for YEARS! There are so many things to take in place, blind people(brail), people w/ bad eye sight, people who don't have fingers, color blind people, people over seas, voting at home.
It should also have some form have hard copy at each station. Maybe just a dot matrix printer priting user:vote. None of this data should be put into a dadabase other than the votes. Peoples names, time of day, etc should not be put in electronic form.
A form of receipt would be good, gives the "customer" that warm and fuzzy feeling.
Well its not just loki that people look at to see how successful linux game are. CompUSA looks, the distributor looks, etc.
If people think they can make money from porting over the software, they will, however, most linux people are reluctant to pay for any piece of software, and it shows w/ the lack of commercially available software. (games, apps, utilities, web sites, etc)
But if you use aliases you wont be in the "to" field. So sending everything w/o your e-mail address in the to field isn't the answer, and besides, your still getting the spam, your just not reading it now.
Back in say 95/96 one of zd mags did a review of Netscape(3.x) vs IE (2.0?)
The Pro and con chart looked showed how supperior netscape was (email, animated gifs, javascript, java, frames, fonts, etc) However, they give IE the upper hand and suggested that be the browser everyone uses.
Install windows 95 OSR1/NT 4.0 and try surfing the web.
Thats the day I cancled all my subscriptions to zd mags, MS bias, I think so.
If they are unwilling to sell it/support it, then software should not be covered by copywrite laws.
Infact any and all "intellectual" property should follow something like that. If you don't make money for it, then its no crime to copy it.
Software, music, etc.
All they are trying to do is weasle more money
When upgrading a pc, at what point does your oem version of win95 become ileagle? New monitor? Installing a nic for @Home? New sound card? A new case?
I feel that the aggreements that MS has are ileagle. Replace "windows/software" with "screw driver" and see how leagle it sounds.
When you buy cookies in a store, you can only eat them the way they intended to. No more dunking them in milk, or using them in a dish to make something else. What about opening a can with out an electric can opener? Ever use scissors on bags rather than pulling that tab?
It's the same thing, but with software. And who's to tell you what you can and can't use that screw driver for? Sorry, can't use it for that, have to buy our paint can opener.
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I think alowing each use to chose custom adds, and comment on them is a wonderful idea. And "karma" should be based on that alone. Not clicking, or chosing the bigger banner
The problem with banner adds isn't that they don't work, its that people can tell when the banner gets a direct respons(click/sale). Also many banners are anoying and even offensive.
Many adds I see are trying to get someone to "click" on them. And nothing else. Think of how many TV comercials are there only to get people to call them?
As far as demographics content goes, I would go as deap as "state" and no more. Also let each user select more than one. There are many reasons for this, 1. On the East coast you can easliy live 40 min from 5 different states, 2. Many of us travel.
The peopel making banners need to do a little more home work. Showing pictures of women or tricking customers to click on an add makes things worse. I think the biggest reason why people hate banners, is that it takes to long to download compaird to the rest of the content. This is because of illeagle cookies, slow banner servers, large banners.
The internet is about information. And what makes the internet what it is today is that its free.
Companies need to realize that the "net" is not there to get rich off of. That this e*crap* is crap. The internet is a way to: expand your existing customer base, better server your customers/potential customers.
However, I would pay for some features, like a really good pure web based e-mail, or my online bill paying company. I will not pay for "content", nor will I pay per use type charges.
I think the online adds need to change. They should pay for a number of visitors they are shown to, much like any other add industry. They also need to start using effictive adds. I think "ThinkGeek"s adds are good at this, but most adds don't even spark my intress.
Never underestimate the stupidity of people.
Some of the things it does (and still being small) includes:
GAH!
I mean opera not outlook!!!!!!
Outlook supports most javascript
And no, you should not HAVE to turn javascipt off, or make your browser identify as something else.
No, it tried adding things to the web, it was also netscape that added graphics. The only pages that wouldn;t work on other sites was when frames was used, but they made a way for non frame people can use it too.
Infact everything ns did they made sure it wouldn't screw people who didn't use ns.
MS came in, created tags for the SAME thing. Not to add to it. And there tags are often very much ie where you can't use the page if you don'e have ie. (such as ms modification to the framgs tags)
Your just an idiot, I program for the web and have been since 94/95. Close all tags, even if not really needed, close the tags. If the code isn't done right, then its not ns fault, its the coders. If ns has problems even when done corectly then its ns fault. BTW, your example does work on ns and I beleave is also leagle under w3c. Its people like you, and the author of that website that ruin the web.
I hate most of the warnings that come from the browsers.
Such as if you want to encrypt something internaly and don't want to pay 500 bucks so verisign can sign off on it, all your users will get a "scary" message. Or the message you get when you post a form on a generic website when it uses your e-mail to send out the post not cgi.
It is a monopoly, those other products that you listed are better in many ways. (To this day I can't understand how poeople can even use ms office, its such crap) They mantain there monopoly by keeping incompatibe w/ competing products,(or older ones) bullying "customers". Who else came up w/ byeing software then paying for using it? Or the crap software "agreements"? Or having IE intergrated into your os? Those was all forced to us because we don't really have a choise. Ya I can use linux 100%, but I can only do 10% of what I use to.
If such a system was put in place, none of it should be patented and all of it should be open source. Nothing closed or hidden. No hardware, no software. No one is to "own" anything about it. They just work on it and paid to work on it. There should never be only 1 vendor for something. Also, it would have to be in testing for YEARS! There are so many things to take in place, blind people(brail), people w/ bad eye sight, people who don't have fingers, color blind people, people over seas, voting at home. It should also have some form have hard copy at each station. Maybe just a dot matrix printer priting user:vote. None of this data should be put into a dadabase other than the votes. Peoples names, time of day, etc should not be put in electronic form. A form of receipt would be good, gives the "customer" that warm and fuzzy feeling.
http://www.battle.net/forums/diablo2-realmstatus/p osts/ac/52.shtml
Well its not just loki that people look at to see how successful linux game are. CompUSA looks, the distributor looks, etc.
If people think they can make money from porting over the software, they will, however, most linux people are reluctant to pay for any piece of software, and it shows w/ the lack of commercially available software. (games, apps, utilities, web sites, etc)
This write up shows how hard it is to fight spam w/o censoring. And how every way we try to fight spam, we are doing a form of "censoring".
But if you use aliases you wont be in the "to" field. So sending everything w/o your e-mail address in the to field isn't the answer, and besides, your still getting the spam, your just not reading it now.
Back in say 95/96 one of zd mags did a review of Netscape(3.x) vs IE (2.0?)
The Pro and con chart looked showed how supperior netscape was (email, animated gifs, javascript, java, frames, fonts, etc) However, they give IE the upper hand and suggested that be the browser everyone uses.
Install windows 95 OSR1/NT 4.0 and try surfing the web.
Thats the day I cancled all my subscriptions to zd mags, MS bias, I think so.
If they are unwilling to sell it/support it, then software should not be covered by copywrite laws. Infact any and all "intellectual" property should follow something like that. If you don't make money for it, then its no crime to copy it. Software, music, etc.
All they are trying to do is weasle more money When upgrading a pc, at what point does your oem version of win95 become ileagle? New monitor? Installing a nic for @Home? New sound card? A new case? I feel that the aggreements that MS has are ileagle. Replace "windows/software" with "screw driver" and see how leagle it sounds.
When you buy cookies in a store, you can only eat them the way they intended to. No more dunking them in milk, or using them in a dish to make something else. What about opening a can with out an electric can opener? Ever use scissors on bags rather than pulling that tab? It's the same thing, but with software. And who's to tell you what you can and can't use that screw driver for? Sorry, can't use it for that, have to buy our paint can opener.