In Switzerland too by the way -- while restaurants love cash (they often don't even have a machine, even in touristy areas), everywhere else cards are common. It seem to have speeded up a LOT the last 2 years tho, due to contactless.
Banking services and the price you pay for it seems to be in the middle ages compared to Norway or even France tough, but I'm sure it's OK if you have > 100'000 CHF on your account... They all pretend to be very important, very serious, well dressed, but they don't actually offer much services AND charge you lots for it. That may be why the Swiss prefer cash.
I haven't seen a cheque in Norway since the 90s I think, do they still exist? I think they dissapeared around then; I remember seeing someone in my family buy a used car by card in the mid-90s and it worked (somewhat to the surprise of the dealership, who was expecting that a cheque was needed).
All money transfers -- from when you owe a friend a few NOK because he brought chips from the store, to when you spend a few million to buy a house -- are in my experience electronic through various systems (VIPS, VISA/MASTERCARD, ebanking transfers via domestic or international systems).
In France, I've used cheques twice in the last 5 years, both due to businesses owing me money. For everything else there is chip cards (which used to have a 10 or 15 euro minimum, however that dissappeared once contactless became common) and e-banking.
OLPC kind of tried to do all of those in one - the learnability of a raspberry pi together with the classroom-convenience of a chromebook, at a similar price point (cheap) as both of them.
> At the very least, put them on a separate secure network
Aka. "Technical network". At least that's what it is called where I work. And yes, we do run (mainly) Linux for our controls stuff.
> Again, how would a different OS help other than security through obscurity? Other operating systems are not magically bug-free.
Sure, they are not, but putting them on a separate network, and avoiding using the operating system that has holes so large that you can fly a 747 through them generally helps.
> We have seen infections via application updates before, including people infiltrating open source repos and replacing packages with trojaned ones.
Updates on TN computers tend to be tightly controlled - often so tightly that they never arrive, which of course is a security risk in itself.
I doubt they are reading emails on a machine controlling a piece of machinery - these things are generally on a special "technical network" that cannot reach the internet directly. AFAIK these are true remote exploits, not user intervention needed. So yes, it is the OS's fault, and you are off target by blaming the user.
ROFL. We're not talking about debugging the scientific number crunching code that will run on the actual cluster, but the cluster management software. The actual jobs to run may very well just be doing sleep(10000*rand()); if rand()0.1 call WriteAllTheDiskSpace; else if rand() 0.2 then call segfault_horribly(); else return SUCCESS;. etc.;, one should probably add in a few more "bad things", MPI calls etc.
It depends. It pays off to alter your investments to avoid being negatively impacted by climate change, or to gain a positive impact (shipping in the far north), or to position yourself to build new infrastructure to avoid / compensate for climate change.
That doesn't mean you can't also invest in things that are bad for the climate. I.e. if you invest in coal - which makes it warmer, and also in companies building AC units - which makes it possible to live where one now have more extreme temperature highs, that's an economically sound position. Maybe even throw in some renewable energy technology and be ready to loose the coalmine when people finally panic and try to fix things.
AFAIK another name for that event is "the great dying". Can we please try to avoid a repeat of that? At least to me, it doesn't sound like a good time...
Norway already has a retirement age of 67/70 tough (anything over 67 is voluntary, and you still get a full pension - possibly while working, I'm not sure), although you can retire earlier with a reduced pension.
Meanwhile, the French tend to retire around 60 years, although that's about to change.
Sure - how to act on the information given by climate science is definitively a political issue. And my beef is not with people who explicitly come out and say that "we should do nothing, let whoever come after me deal with it, whatever it may be". That's OK, it is honest, but most people - no matter their political orientation - would find that a bit immoral. But it is honest, which I find more important - especially when we are supposed to check our baggage at the door.
What I have a problem with is when people are inventing straw man arguments to "take down" climate science, and we end up fighting over long-debunked hoaxes instead of actually discussing the science in depth. Which measurements have been done, what would be interesting to do, how would applying $SOME_FANCY_NEW_TECHNIQUE improve the precision of modeling etc. - that would be really interesting, and I would feel that I've learned something instead of being annoyed at some troll. But as it is now, we never get there...
The AC is playing tough! The AC wants more politics! Politics everywhere! But just *his* politics - people who disagree or just don't want to avoid the US right wing political bias ticks him off so much that he can't discuss straight!
It's a pity that some right-wingers always want to make politics out of climate change. It really isn't - it's natural science, which is definitively news for nerds. Nerds are a wider group than just IT admins.
It would be a pity of we cannot discuss that - on a scientific basis - just because it pisses off people who put politics above science.
> So what you want is a traceable untraceable currency, so that you can make anonymous registered purchases and receive anonymous fully recorded payments.
I find that the new type of Slashdot denizens are mostly interested in arguing politics and the superiority of the imperial system of measurements over the SI system, when they are not complaining over the layout of the webpage or the terribleness of the other posters. Which is why I haven't really read Slashdot for a few years now...
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In Switzerland too by the way -- while restaurants love cash (they often don't even have a machine, even in touristy areas), everywhere else cards are common. It seem to have speeded up a LOT the last 2 years tho, due to contactless.
Banking services and the price you pay for it seems to be in the middle ages compared to Norway or even France tough, but I'm sure it's OK if you have > 100'000 CHF on your account... They all pretend to be very important, very serious, well dressed, but they don't actually offer much services AND charge you lots for it. That may be why the Swiss prefer cash.
I haven't seen a cheque in Norway since the 90s I think, do they still exist? I think they dissapeared around then; I remember seeing someone in my family buy a used car by card in the mid-90s and it worked (somewhat to the surprise of the dealership, who was expecting that a cheque was needed).
All money transfers -- from when you owe a friend a few NOK because he brought chips from the store, to when you spend a few million to buy a house -- are in my experience electronic through various systems (VIPS, VISA/MASTERCARD, ebanking transfers via domestic or international systems).
In France, I've used cheques twice in the last 5 years, both due to businesses owing me money. For everything else there is chip cards (which used to have a 10 or 15 euro minimum, however that dissappeared once contactless became common) and e-banking.
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OLPC kind of tried to do all of those in one - the learnability of a raspberry pi together with the classroom-convenience of a chromebook, at a similar price point (cheap) as both of them.
Windows 8 came out 7 years after this prototype was showed off tough - many things happened in those years.
> At the very least, put them on a separate secure network
Aka. "Technical network". At least that's what it is called where I work. And yes, we do run (mainly) Linux for our controls stuff.
> Again, how would a different OS help other than security through obscurity? Other operating systems are not magically bug-free.
Sure, they are not, but putting them on a separate network, and avoiding using the operating system that has holes so large that you can fly a 747 through them generally helps.
> We have seen infections via application updates before, including people infiltrating open source repos and replacing packages with trojaned ones.
Updates on TN computers tend to be tightly controlled - often so tightly that they never arrive, which of course is a security risk in itself.
Organized mobsters use the same hospitals as everyone else...
I doubt they are reading emails on a machine controlling a piece of machinery - these things are generally on a special "technical network" that cannot reach the internet directly. AFAIK these are true remote exploits, not user intervention needed. So yes, it is the OS's fault, and you are off target by blaming the user.
Wasn't that mainly about size? AFAIK 2.4 was the last that could fit comfortably on a floppy disk.
ROFL. We're not talking about debugging the scientific number crunching code that will run on the actual cluster, but the cluster management software. The actual jobs to run may very well just be doing sleep(10000*rand()); if rand()0.1 call WriteAllTheDiskSpace; else if rand() 0.2 then call segfault_horribly(); else return SUCCESS;. etc.;, one should probably add in a few more "bad things", MPI calls etc.
Not useless if you're debugging queue systems, schedulers etc.
That's a *much* easier problem to handle than if a hurricane does the same to a nuclear plant...
It depends. It pays off to alter your investments to avoid being negatively impacted by climate change, or to gain a positive impact (shipping in the far north), or to position yourself to build new infrastructure to avoid / compensate for climate change.
That doesn't mean you can't also invest in things that are bad for the climate. I.e. if you invest in coal - which makes it warmer, and also in companies building AC units - which makes it possible to live where one now have more extreme temperature highs, that's an economically sound position. Maybe even throw in some renewable energy technology and be ready to loose the coalmine when people finally panic and try to fix things.
> I would steak money on it.
Extra well done money?
AFAIK another name for that event is "the great dying". Can we please try to avoid a repeat of that? At least to me, it doesn't sound like a good time...
Norway already has a retirement age of 67/70 tough (anything over 67 is voluntary, and you still get a full pension - possibly while working, I'm not sure), although you can retire earlier with a reduced pension.
Meanwhile, the French tend to retire around 60 years, although that's about to change.
Sure - how to act on the information given by climate science is definitively a political issue. And my beef is not with people who explicitly come out and say that "we should do nothing, let whoever come after me deal with it, whatever it may be". That's OK, it is honest, but most people - no matter their political orientation - would find that a bit immoral. But it is honest, which I find more important - especially when we are supposed to check our baggage at the door.
What I have a problem with is when people are inventing straw man arguments to "take down" climate science, and we end up fighting over long-debunked hoaxes instead of actually discussing the science in depth. Which measurements have been done, what would be interesting to do, how would applying $SOME_FANCY_NEW_TECHNIQUE improve the precision of modeling etc. - that would be really interesting, and I would feel that I've learned something instead of being annoyed at some troll. But as it is now, we never get there...
The AC is playing tough! The AC wants more politics! Politics everywhere! But just *his* politics - people who disagree or just don't want to avoid the US right wing political bias ticks him off so much that he can't discuss straight!
It's a pity that some right-wingers always want to make politics out of climate change. It really isn't - it's natural science, which is definitively news for nerds. Nerds are a wider group than just IT admins.
It would be a pity of we cannot discuss that - on a scientific basis - just because it pisses off people who put politics above science.
This.
Is why I'm rarely here anymore.
Eh. I agree that electric is a lot better, however they still take a ton of space for roads and parking.
I think this XKCD is pretty applicable:
https://xkcd.com/1827/
> So what you want is a traceable untraceable currency, so that you can make anonymous registered purchases and receive anonymous fully recorded payments.
So basically Bitcoin?
Regarding 32-bit and 4 GB RAM, can't they do PAE? Surely no single process needs > 4GB ram to run Windows?
I find that the new type of Slashdot denizens are mostly interested in arguing politics and the superiority of the imperial system of measurements over the SI system, when they are not complaining over the layout of the webpage or the terribleness of the other posters. Which is why I haven't really read Slashdot for a few years now...