You can give them every dot in the known universe, they still never connect them. And it sure as hell won't stop planes from being blown up again.
That said, American passengers, WILL keep "passenger" planes from EVER being used as missiles again. If it ever happens again it will use cargo or military planes.
It is because the United States is both too arrogant, and too heinous. When this came out and we had proof the NSA was acting beyond their capacity and had blatantly lied both to the general Congress and the Security Committee (which is authorized to hear such things). The first thing that should of been done was to have the Senate grant Snowden immunity, bring him back to the U.S. and address the issue.
Having done so would have limited any release of material, access of foreign nations, etc.
But everytime some dumbass Senator or former NSA/CIA/TSA/ASS head goes out and speaks about how horrible Snowden is and ignores their present actions. I become more and more and more convinced, that Snowden did what was both right and necessary. And that is by definition a hero.
Good, I'm a former serviceman, and swore an oath to protect the Constitution. In which case, guess we can deem you a threat. Sadly, a cowardly threat...
Inifinitely weaker after U.S. led invasion overthrows Nazi regime.
The question is not whether the NSA's position is currently weaker or more compromised. It's whether that prior position was wrong, and whether the current position is not in fact a better one.
(Note,.gov is currently talking with justices to see if the fact that you pay property taxes in fact means you do not truly own your home, so that we can interpret the 4th Amendment as not applying to homeowners either.)
We're not at war. Congress hasn't declared a war in my lifetime. You want to call that bullshit, than call it right.
Furthermore, we're not pointing to one failure. But the fact that NSA, TSA, etc, have failed to stop anything. The only cases they have stopped were ones instigated and pushed by the FBI themselves.
What essential liberties? The right not to have my daughter groped by a TSA thug. The right to not have my papers (be they paper or electronic) searched, seized, detained without a warrant.
Hell, how about the right not to have to buy a product??????????
Then you sir, need to tie a cinder block around your neck and go swimming in a pool. I doubt you'll foresee what affects that might have either.
But suffice to say, the U.S. government security agencies were repeatedly warned. And I will wager you a $100 that had they monitored their phones and communications that they would have easily foiled the Boston Bombing.
NSA isn't concerned about any threats. Neither is.gov. If they were, they'd have equipped the U.S. Coast Guard with anti-submarine capable cutters and drones for monitoring our coastline. # threat to America is a 25 ft sailboat with a nuke or dirty bomb sailing from West Africa or Indonesia into a U.S. port.
No, they don't care about foriegn threats. All of this is about monitoring U.S. citizens. Because they're far more afraid of US than THEM.
You forgot to mention where it states that he will also have the authority to listen to every phone call, intercept emails, papers and parcels. All without warrant?
You also forgot to mention the oath of every serviceman to DEFEND the Constitution against POWERS both FOREIGN and DOMESTIC
Yes, I'm shouting. We need a little shouting. Cause this crap is inexcusable.
We have one other document that is actually higher than the Constitution. No, it is not a legal document, for it transcends the laws and even exceeds the SCOTUS
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.
THIS GOVERNMENT IS GETTING DAMN CLOSE TO THAT LINE
The Girlfriends and Ex's of NSA employees who were being spied on.
There, I've said it....now go screw yourself.
Right, like Tsanarev whom the U.S. government's security agencies were repeatedly warned about but didn't even bother to monitor. Cause they're way to busy spying on all the rank and file Americans.
First off, it's not locally vague. It's been documented globally.
So here is the reason why Global Warming is bullshit science. It has zero ability to be proved.
Any big storm, earthquake tsunami, hurricane, tornado, snow storm, heat wave, drought = PROOF OF GLOBAL WARMING
But at the same time, GWA always decry local/regional not equal...blah blah blah...you're such a stupid denier. Well you know what, we've shown major regional coolings. We've shown planetary coolings. Heck, we chould show you absolute proof. And you morons would still act the same.
Global Warming Alarmists are simply, religious nutjobs on par with well religious nut jobs and Apple fanbois.
None of those issues mentioned are due to global warming. Rather, they're due to overfishing. And have been a significant problem even during the 70's when cold had people talking a mini ice age.
Heck, New England Cod has been in decline since before modern industry. Take the mismanagement of commercial fishing and multiply that by a population that is twice as big as it was in the 50's.
Maybe if the U.S. government would budget some funds for the U.S. Coast Guard instead of blowing trillions on a dozen aircraft carriers that will all be sunk in the first 2 weeks of a war.
If climate models were accurate, their predictions would be accurate. All of the models have failed on their predictions. This means, they are inaccurate and are not accurately reflecting the real world model.
If the earth became a ball of ice. It would still be blamed on global warming. The only possible thing that could disprove global warming is if the earth suddenly went through a 10 year period of zero temperature change in any region. That is about the only thing that could disprove Global Warming.
And if that happened, we'd have a much worse concern than global warming.
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Realize we're right there with you....we're victims of our own police state gone rogue.
You can give them every dot in the known universe, they still never connect them. And it sure as hell won't stop planes from being blown up again.
That said, American passengers, WILL keep "passenger" planes from EVER being used as missiles again. If it ever happens again it will use cargo or military planes.
Twerk it baby...
It is because the United States is both too arrogant, and too heinous. When this came out and we had proof the NSA was acting beyond their capacity and had blatantly lied both to the general Congress and the Security Committee (which is authorized to hear such things). The first thing that should of been done was to have the Senate grant Snowden immunity, bring him back to the U.S. and address the issue.
Having done so would have limited any release of material, access of foreign nations, etc.
But everytime some dumbass Senator or former NSA/CIA/TSA/ASS head goes out and speaks about how horrible Snowden is and ignores their present actions. I become more and more and more convinced, that Snowden did what was both right and necessary. And that is by definition a hero.
Good, I'm a former serviceman, and swore an oath to protect the Constitution. In which case, guess we can deem you a threat. Sadly, a cowardly threat...
And I feel Snowden aided the U.S. people against a clear and present danger to American safety and the Constitution. That being the NSA.
Inifinitely weaker after U.S. led invasion overthrows Nazi regime.
The question is not whether the NSA's position is currently weaker or more compromised. It's whether that prior position was wrong, and whether the current position is not in fact a better one.
1. For lying to Congress under oath - it's called "perjury"
2. For violating the Constitution - criminal breaking of Oath of Office.
3. For spying on the American people - treason.
Snowden didn't sell his secrets. He gave them free of charge to the press.
DOESN'T APPLY TO RENTERS. ONLY HOMEOWNERS BENEFIT
(Note, .gov is currently talking with justices to see if the fact that you pay property taxes in fact means you do not truly own your home, so that we can interpret the 4th Amendment as not applying to homeowners either.)
The Constitution already forbids it...
Can we PLEASE block the IP addresses of the NSA so they can't keep posting anonymously.Thx ;-)
We're not at war. Congress hasn't declared a war in my lifetime. You want to call that bullshit, than call it right.
Furthermore, we're not pointing to one failure. But the fact that NSA, TSA, etc, have failed to stop anything. The only cases they have stopped were ones instigated and pushed by the FBI themselves.
What essential liberties? The right not to have my daughter groped by a TSA thug. The right to not have my papers (be they paper or electronic) searched, seized, detained without a warrant.
Hell, how about the right not to have to buy a product??????????
Hoover, proof the FBI did it before. Only an idiot would think they wouldn't do it again.
Then you sir, need to tie a cinder block around your neck and go swimming in a pool. I doubt you'll foresee what affects that might have either.
But suffice to say, the U.S. government security agencies were repeatedly warned. And I will wager you a $100 that had they monitored their phones and communications that they would have easily foiled the Boston Bombing.
NSA isn't concerned about any threats. Neither is .gov. If they were, they'd have equipped the U.S. Coast Guard with anti-submarine capable cutters and drones for monitoring our coastline. # threat to America is a 25 ft sailboat with a nuke or dirty bomb sailing from West Africa or Indonesia into a U.S. port.
No, they don't care about foriegn threats. All of this is about monitoring U.S. citizens. Because they're far more afraid of US than THEM.
You forgot to mention where it states that he will also have the authority to listen to every phone call, intercept emails, papers and parcels. All without warrant?
You also forgot to mention the oath of every serviceman to DEFEND the Constitution against POWERS both FOREIGN and DOMESTIC
Yes, I'm shouting. We need a little shouting. Cause this crap is inexcusable.
That's because you are naive and fail to recognize the 4th branch of the government.
Executive
Legislative
Judicial
Militia
If the courts were to fail in their duties, to ensure and protect the Constitution. The right of the People to rise up and reject always remains.
We have one other document that is actually higher than the Constitution. No, it is not a legal document, for it transcends the laws and even exceeds the SCOTUS
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.
THIS GOVERNMENT IS GETTING DAMN CLOSE TO THAT LINE
The Girlfriends and Ex's of NSA employees who were being spied on.
There, I've said it....now go screw yourself.
Right, like Tsanarev whom the U.S. government's security agencies were repeatedly warned about but didn't even bother to monitor. Cause they're way to busy spying on all the rank and file Americans.
First off, it's not locally vague. It's been documented globally.
So here is the reason why Global Warming is bullshit science. It has zero ability to be proved.
Any big storm, earthquake tsunami, hurricane, tornado, snow storm, heat wave, drought = PROOF OF GLOBAL WARMING
But at the same time, GWA always decry local/regional not equal ...blah blah blah...you're such a stupid denier. Well you know what, we've shown major regional coolings. We've shown planetary coolings. Heck, we chould show you absolute proof. And you morons would still act the same.
Global Warming Alarmists are simply, religious nutjobs on par with well religious nut jobs and Apple fanbois.
Except, I can prove Gravity and replicate its affect. And predict it with a reasonable amount of accuracy.
None of which can be done with global warming.
None of those issues mentioned are due to global warming. Rather, they're due to overfishing. And have been a significant problem even during the 70's when cold had people talking a mini ice age.
Heck, New England Cod has been in decline since before modern industry. Take the mismanagement of commercial fishing and multiply that by a population that is twice as big as it was in the 50's.
Maybe if the U.S. government would budget some funds for the U.S. Coast Guard instead of blowing trillions on a dozen aircraft carriers that will all be sunk in the first 2 weeks of a war.
If climate models were accurate, their predictions would be accurate. All of the models have failed on their predictions. This means, they are inaccurate and are not accurately reflecting the real world model.
If the earth became a ball of ice. It would still be blamed on global warming. The only possible thing that could disprove global warming is if the earth suddenly went through a 10 year period of zero temperature change in any region. That is about the only thing that could disprove Global Warming.
And if that happened, we'd have a much worse concern than global warming.
Right, cause good preperation results in abandoning ship.