You have to admit, it does seem worse when a kid gets beaten to death for just being gay, as opposed to, say, a kid who is in a gang and gets shot during a drug war. Now, you can argue that there are social reasons why that kid ended up in a gang, and both deaths are sad, but still.
and as opposed to beating your wife to death because you feel she should love you more? or your neighboor because he's a foreigner or worships a different god? or some random villagers because someone ordered to do so? or because a court needed someone to blame and that nigger just happened to be around? or some random guy because you want his moonies or simply because you enjoy doing it? i see no fundamental difference, really.
What an asinine comment. So nobody should ever do anything new because, well, it's already been around for decades in some form or another.
no, it's just that if you consistently provide sub-par tools, you shouldn't be all too surprised if you don't immediately get the whole world's attention when you finally get it sort of right (or you believe you do) and manage to offer what others have been using for decades.
Powershell is different from the UNIX shell environment. In some ways things are more difficult, in others much much easier and cleaner.
and in other ways it is totally useless if you don't happen to be running windows.
you might say it's more efficient/cool/whatever than cygwin, but then cygwin has provided windows the decent shell functionality it has been lacking for all those years, people have been building things on that, and it still does so and in a way compatible with a host of other environments, past and reasonably into the future. so if i needed a shell for windows today (i don't) i would choose cygwin over powershell any day.
but you were worried about some quirks. well, if you are a windows only admin then i guess you'll be ok with the new quirks-free powertoy. but i'm guessing the rest of the world will keep doing the stuff they need to get done and for which powershell is no real alternative becaue of it's limited scope.
Most men are killed because of who they are - gay men and transgendered people are frequently killed for how they were born. If you can't distinguish the two, and why one is heinously more severe than the other, you fail as a human being.
you take this way too seriously. for example, the un report doesn't count murders perpetrated in the name of "war on terror" (never actually reconned as a war, so those are plain criminal killings wether prosecuted or not) and this omission alone renders the figures meaningless anyway. just an example of many other ways people get killed without making it to the headlines or fancy un statistics. it's just gossip for gutmenschen (http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gutmensch).
that said, how considering killing "because of how" fundamentally more heinous and severe than "because of who" is supposed to make a "better" human out of someone is beyond me.
if powershell weren't a microsoft "innovation" that finally offered windows users the functionality that has been around on other systems for decades, maybe more people would give a fuck.
it actually smells like veiled propaganda. the naive, 'ordinary people oriented' enfasis on encryption seems to seek regaining trust in commonly used crypto we know might very well be compromised. 'North Korea, terrorists, cyber-actors' are just classical bait words. 'or anyone else' is just scary because whilst apparently warning against nsa, it automatically entitles them to decide that anyone is targetable. and the reference to "the members of the council of europe' is plain hilarous.
... stay away from kids. no need to spoil them so soon. they'll spoil themselves when looking for their first "qualified" job.
fucking outlook has already accomplished that majority of users can't even send/read email the way it's supposed to, just because they have no notion whatsoever of what email is. and i'm sick already of receiving docs from even academics with no notion whatsoever of elementary document layout and information exchange.
methinks it was jobs who said once: give users powerful tools and they will do marvellous things. may well be. give'm office and unleash the real moron they have inside, in full color.
the thing is nobody is trying to sell you anything, here. debian is a gift for you from a dedicated community, but i couldn't care less if you use it or not or prefer another distro or even some propietary product of your liking (talking about scam ads!). the simple idea that someone is trying to "sell" you "debian" is absurd. of course there will be always fanboyism but this is rare for debian in my humble experience.
"just works" is subjective. it describes well my experience with debian (as compared with other distros/oses), but then it's also very vague. for someone else it can mean an easy peasy install out of the box and voilà, there you have your mediacenter running, regardless of the fact that you have to reinstall everything months later because the system "just chokes" or "crawls" or got compromised. for me it means you have a consistent system where you (the user) are in control and that behaves as expected over time. this you only get from systems where reliability is a priority and thus enforce rigurous release methods and policies. this is naturally incompatible with release rush pressure, feature races or marketing fluff of any sort. well, debian is such a system, built for reliability, to "just work". of course not the only one but one of the most prominent examples today indeed.
the equivalent of "other's" release is debian's "testing" release. it only becomes the official "stable" release when enough testing has been done and it's deemed stable and mature. that's why debian avoids lots of integration problems other distros suffer and why you might say it "just plain works" in comparision: because it's way more tested.
this was implicit in the answer if you had made use of a couple of neurons. and of course if you'd really wanted to know, you could as well have read it off the debian homepage where it is clearly explained, instead of displaying you utter ignorance and calling others BS just because of your own mental laziness (or because you enjoy being a dick, be my guest).
i too started with woody and never had a problem apart from having to install nvidia driver and a bit of x configuring. it wasn't really that hard and there was more than enough help available on the net, just the frequent kernel recompiling was a bit annoying. maybe it's that my requirements were just that modest, but i'm very grateful that there are still solid and reliable linux distros around like debian. cutting edge fancy distros are nice too but they tend to rot (see ubuntu) and fortunately when that happens you can always return to debian. long life! love it.
links on slashdot articles are clickbait by default. use your favorite search engine.
however the article is correct. the title itself makes it pretty obvious that squeeze is a release of debian (why else should it get long term support?) AND the article explicitly relates it to the release number (debian 6). and anyway, if you don't already know what "squeeze" means in the context of debian, why should you bother to read articles about debian at all, let alone coment on them?
please improve your trolling or refrain. this is pathetic. you are smudging the illustrous name of anonymous coward!
i guess because all dependencies are inherently a trade off, it's up to anyone to find adecuate balance depending on the situation, and publicly stating that one is systematically way unblanced on either side isn't interesting info at all. particularly, if this anonymous poster had to be coherent, he would have to be coding on cpus built with his own hands, not to mention having written his own compiler and os from scratch. that would be quite a rave party in house!
-"justifying one dubious or illegal act by bringing up another"
i don't hink the comment is justifying anything, it just draws a comparison. (n.b.: only saw the quote, smart folks at beta seem convinced that i can't mentally handle posts below -1)
-"The US, I think, has come to deeply regret the Iraq invasion, which happened a decade ago under an entirely different Administration."
so gitmo is still run by that former, entirely different administration. and this other entirely different current administration has absolutely nothing to do with the power shift in ukraine. high five!
... a qualitatively signifficant (although maybe not quantitatively) part of protesters were indeed self declared fascist extremists, most of them openly nazi-sympathetic, so that's not a comparison at all, and it has nothing to do with godwin's rule. however unfortunate, it just reflects facts. check your sources.
while the idea of such an "easily usable knowledge repository" is interesting, the issue of who governs this repository is determinant. if open and transparent such a system would be revolutionary. since it is not, it is just another product to avoid like pest. inspirational? sure! anyone?
sadly, i'm afraid (near) future humans will indeed be very dependent on asking such AIs for much of their lives, and that those will not be accountable. but no hurry at all to get to that, seriously.
it might be a good way of prototyping and get an early set of working, testable specs. i don't like the approach, though, seems awkward, but that's maybe just me...
erm, sorry, the subject was task-switching, in the context of a window manager. that's pretty trivial and in my opinion none of the above applies to this discussion, which has nothing to do with file system representations, heat maps, physiological or cultural issues or the miryad other factors which do play a role in ui design when the tasks are complex. firing up / switching to a program you use every day isn't complex at all, it's so elementary and so frecuent that it's a function that is best completely out of the way of the ui. IF you want to have ui elements for this, then just keep them always at the same place, and out of the attention area. voilà: that's the classic icon on the classic panel. still unbeaten, but be my guest, there are many valid variations possible if you like it fancy.
besides... if you really believe/accept that people are so dumb as you describe, you inevitably will end up designing dumb interfaces. ditto, monstruosities:D. ribbons, merging menus, vanishing scrollbars are all atrocities that spring to mind. and of course dumb users will stay dumb, and normally capable users will go nuts. where is the progress in that? i do believe that's a (serious?) problem we have today. massification of computer access, which is good, has lead to a spree of overengineering of interfaces for lazy fucks, which is totally lame. in contrast, people with serious disabilities are barely tanken into account. which is sad.
sir, the first sentence in your post just states an obvious fact.
the rest, however, of your verbose discourse is just empty, based on one single inventend assumption, that "what to do next" thing as being related to a particular desktop metaphor. i see you like to theorize but you should at least attach to reality when doing so. general industry desktop user (from office to cad through programming) does not depend on screen organization for his mental workflow at all. in fact, most use a limited set of tools they switch to over and over again, and that's it. say email + browser + 1-3 domain specific tools, most of their time being spent on those specific tools (which might even run inside the browser). it's not the layout of these tools what prompts a decision to switch, it's their current workflow. so in fact ANY window mgr would do as long as it provides any form of instant switch function. user's don't have to "think" it's time to compose an email, or make a draft, or check a balance. they know, and they also know which is the right tool for that. what they need is just a convenient way to bring it up, instantly, be it a keyboard shorcut, a click on a panel, a console command or a voice command, that is pretty irrelevant and just personal choice.
i have to add that it is precisely this kind of out of the blue theroizing what is producing the ui monstruosities we're seeing nowadays. please get a clue, or do some real work, or at least take your time watching someone doing it.
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You have to admit, it does seem worse when a kid gets beaten to death for just being gay, as opposed to, say, a kid who is in a gang and gets shot during a drug war. Now, you can argue that there are social reasons why that kid ended up in a gang, and both deaths are sad, but still.
and as opposed to beating your wife to death because you feel she should love you more? or your neighboor because he's a foreigner or worships a different god? or some random villagers because someone ordered to do so? or because a court needed someone to blame and that nigger just happened to be around? or some random guy because you want his moonies or simply because you enjoy doing it? i see no fundamental difference, really.
What an asinine comment. So nobody should ever do anything new because, well, it's already been around for decades in some form or another.
no, it's just that if you consistently provide sub-par tools, you shouldn't be all too surprised if you don't immediately get the whole world's attention when you finally get it sort of right (or you believe you do) and manage to offer what others have been using for decades.
Powershell is different from the UNIX shell environment. In some ways things are more difficult, in others much much easier and cleaner.
and in other ways it is totally useless if you don't happen to be running windows.
you might say it's more efficient/cool/whatever than cygwin, but then cygwin has provided windows the decent shell functionality it has been lacking for all those years, people have been building things on that, and it still does so and in a way compatible with a host of other environments, past and reasonably into the future. so if i needed a shell for windows today (i don't) i would choose cygwin over powershell any day.
but you were worried about some quirks. well, if you are a windows only admin then i guess you'll be ok with the new quirks-free powertoy. but i'm guessing the rest of the world will keep doing the stuff they need to get done and for which powershell is no real alternative becaue of it's limited scope.
Come on, public data published in .xlsx...
too late: http://developers.slashdot.org...
Most men are killed because of who they are - gay men and transgendered people are frequently killed for how they were born. If you can't distinguish the two, and why one is heinously more severe than the other, you fail as a human being.
you take this way too seriously. for example, the un report doesn't count murders perpetrated in the name of "war on terror" (never actually reconned as a war, so those are plain criminal killings wether prosecuted or not) and this omission alone renders the figures meaningless anyway. just an example of many other ways people get killed without making it to the headlines or fancy un statistics. it's just gossip for gutmenschen (http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gutmensch).
that said, how considering killing "because of how" fundamentally more heinous and severe than "because of who" is supposed to make a "better" human out of someone is beyond me.
if powershell weren't a microsoft "innovation" that finally offered windows users the functionality that has been around on other systems for decades, maybe more people would give a fuck.
I'm hoping you mean "emphasis" here.
yes, sorry.
Otherwise I have no clue what you're trying to say....
well, since at least five other people found it interesting you could have reading comprehension issues.
it actually smells like veiled propaganda. the naive, 'ordinary people oriented' enfasis on encryption seems to seek regaining trust in commonly used crypto we know might very well be compromised. 'North Korea, terrorists, cyber-actors' are just classical bait words. 'or anyone else' is just scary because whilst apparently warning against nsa, it automatically entitles them to decide that anyone is targetable. and the reference to "the members of the council of europe' is plain hilarous.
did this bs really come from snowden?
... stay away from kids. no need to spoil them so soon. they'll spoil themselves when looking for their first "qualified" job.
fucking outlook has already accomplished that majority of users can't even send/read email the way it's supposed to, just because they have no notion whatsoever of what email is. and i'm sick already of receiving docs from even academics with no notion whatsoever of elementary document layout and information exchange.
methinks it was jobs who said once: give users powerful tools and they will do marvellous things. may well be. give'm office and unleash the real moron they have inside, in full color.
the thing is nobody is trying to sell you anything, here. debian is a gift for you from a dedicated community, but i couldn't care less if you use it or not or prefer another distro or even some propietary product of your liking (talking about scam ads!). the simple idea that someone is trying to "sell" you "debian" is absurd. of course there will be always fanboyism but this is rare for debian in my humble experience.
"just works" is subjective. it describes well my experience with debian (as compared with other distros/oses), but then it's also very vague. for someone else it can mean an easy peasy install out of the box and voilà, there you have your mediacenter running, regardless of the fact that you have to reinstall everything months later because the system "just chokes" or "crawls" or got compromised. for me it means you have a consistent system where you (the user) are in control and that behaves as expected over time. this you only get from systems where reliability is a priority and thus enforce rigurous release methods and policies. this is naturally incompatible with release rush pressure, feature races or marketing fluff of any sort. well, debian is such a system, built for reliability, to "just work". of course not the only one but one of the most prominent examples today indeed.
the equivalent of "other's" release is debian's "testing" release. it only becomes the official "stable" release when enough testing has been done and it's deemed stable and mature. that's why debian avoids lots of integration problems other distros suffer and why you might say it "just plain works" in comparision: because it's way more tested.
this was implicit in the answer if you had made use of a couple of neurons. and of course if you'd really wanted to know, you could as well have read it off the debian homepage where it is clearly explained, instead of displaying you utter ignorance and calling others BS just because of your own mental laziness (or because you enjoy being a dick, be my guest).
they test.
i too started with woody and never had a problem apart from having to install nvidia driver and a bit of x configuring. it wasn't really that hard and there was more than enough help available on the net, just the frequent kernel recompiling was a bit annoying. maybe it's that my requirements were just that modest, but i'm very grateful that there are still solid and reliable linux distros around like debian. cutting edge fancy distros are nice too but they tend to rot (see ubuntu) and fortunately when that happens you can always return to debian. long life! love it.
links on slashdot articles are clickbait by default. use your favorite search engine.
however the article is correct. the title itself makes it pretty obvious that squeeze is a release of debian (why else should it get long term support?) AND the article explicitly relates it to the release number (debian 6). and anyway, if you don't already know what "squeeze" means in the context of debian, why should you bother to read articles about debian at all, let alone coment on them?
please improve your trolling or refrain. this is pathetic. you are smudging the illustrous name of anonymous coward!
i guess because all dependencies are inherently a trade off, it's up to anyone to find adecuate balance depending on the situation, and publicly stating that one is systematically way unblanced on either side isn't interesting info at all. particularly, if this anonymous poster had to be coherent, he would have to be coding on cpus built with his own hands, not to mention having written his own compiler and os from scratch. that would be quite a rave party in house!
-"justifying one dubious or illegal act by bringing up another"
i don't hink the comment is justifying anything, it just draws a comparison. (n.b.: only saw the quote, smart folks at beta seem convinced that i can't mentally handle posts below -1)
-"The US, I think, has come to deeply regret the Iraq invasion, which happened a decade ago under an entirely different Administration."
so gitmo is still run by that former, entirely different administration.
and this other entirely different current administration has absolutely nothing to do with the power shift in ukraine.
high five!
... a qualitatively signifficant (although maybe not quantitatively) part of protesters were indeed self declared fascist extremists, most of them openly nazi-sympathetic, so that's not a comparison at all, and it has nothing to do with godwin's rule. however unfortunate, it just reflects facts. check your sources.
"over licensing issues"
free or not free, that's not a "licensing issue". it's all or nothing.
YOU miss the point.
while the idea of such an "easily usable knowledge repository" is interesting, the issue of who governs this repository is determinant. if open and transparent such a system would be revolutionary. since it is not, it is just another product to avoid like pest. inspirational? sure! anyone?
sadly, i'm afraid (near) future humans will indeed be very dependent on asking such AIs for much of their lives, and that those will not be accountable. but no hurry at all to get to that, seriously.
it might be a good way of prototyping and get an early set of working, testable specs. i don't like the approach, though, seems awkward, but that's maybe just me ...
Waiting for the day when an object database or something like it is at the heart of a modern popular OS.
been around for nearly 2 decades now: look up os/400 and os/2, two very fine and different implementations of what you just asked for.
both got trampled into oblivion so, ok, you could argue about the "popular" thing. i'd say you really are asking to much.
... aliases are not new. you must come up with something newish to hit the headlines.
erm, sorry, the subject was task-switching, in the context of a window manager. that's pretty trivial and in my opinion none of the above applies to this discussion, which has nothing to do with file system representations, heat maps, physiological or cultural issues or the miryad other factors which do play a role in ui design when the tasks are complex. firing up / switching to a program you use every day isn't complex at all, it's so elementary and so frecuent that it's a function that is best completely out of the way of the ui. IF you want to have ui elements for this, then just keep them always at the same place, and out of the attention area. voilà: that's the classic icon on the classic panel. still unbeaten, but be my guest, there are many valid variations possible if you like it fancy.
besides ... if you really believe/accept that people are so dumb as you describe, you inevitably will end up designing dumb interfaces. ditto, monstruosities :D. ribbons, merging menus, vanishing scrollbars are all atrocities that spring to mind. and of course dumb users will stay dumb, and normally capable users will go nuts. where is the progress in that? i do believe that's a (serious?) problem we have today. massification of computer access, which is good, has lead to a spree of overengineering of interfaces for lazy fucks, which is totally lame. in contrast, people with serious disabilities are barely tanken into account. which is sad.
sir, the first sentence in your post just states an obvious fact.
the rest, however, of your verbose discourse is just empty, based on one single inventend assumption, that "what to do next" thing as being related to a particular desktop metaphor. i see you like to theorize but you should at least attach to reality when doing so. general industry desktop user (from office to cad through programming) does not depend on screen organization for his mental workflow at all. in fact, most use a limited set of tools they switch to over and over again, and that's it. say email + browser + 1-3 domain specific tools, most of their time being spent on those specific tools (which might even run inside the browser). it's not the layout of these tools what prompts a decision to switch, it's their current workflow. so in fact ANY window mgr would do as long as it provides any form of instant switch function. user's don't have to "think" it's time to compose an email, or make a draft, or check a balance. they know, and they also know which is the right tool for that. what they need is just a convenient way to bring it up, instantly, be it a keyboard shorcut, a click on a panel, a console command or a voice command, that is pretty irrelevant and just personal choice.
i have to add that it is precisely this kind of out of the blue theroizing what is producing the ui monstruosities we're seeing nowadays. please get a clue, or do some real work, or at least take your time watching someone doing it.
Yeah, I hate these binary people, the truth is that the world is ternary.
Yes.
No.
Maybe.
(cross out as appropriate)
You forgot at least one other option: Abstain.
so the truth is that the world is quaternary?