no actual NSA employees support him, and these are the absolute smartest people in the world, doing far more insane innovative things than anything in private industry.
there! so it was all a lie and they are not at microsoft!
(or... maybe you even work for the nsa or [put equivalent gangster institution here] and are just another asshole enjoying the few crumbs of privilege and/or perceived superiority he can scrub off of what he spouts as being "deriving his own strength from power". and, you post it on./, of course. hilarous).
Let the dev choose how they want others to use their code and don't worry about it.
that's exactly what rs is saying, and that's exactly what gpl aims to avoid. this means you either don't worry about software being free at all, or are simply too shortsighted to see the implications of this. either way you'll get what you are asking for, and eventually you won't like it.
it's easy: the community can build software foundations that no private enterprise can even dream of, but sucks at polishing and marketing those foundations as shiny products. industry, however, does that pretty well and excels in marketing. allowing the industry to apropriate and close that software means that people just will end up using non free software. what's the point?
i'd say, let them do their thing, but let software born free be free forever. it's just the fair thing to do. there is currently only one single license model that qualifies for that, and that's gpl, like it or not. if you are not supporting gpl, you are simply not supporting free software, for whatever reasons (i for once can't imagine any honest one).
you would use a RESTful service (such as HTTP) to minimize network traffic
REST services may reduce your server load (by simply not caring about state), and have other nice architectural benefits, but in no way reduce network traffic per se. a poor design can even imply an increase. in fact REST as transport is anything but efficient, it is ridiculously bloated if compared to binary transfer, for example.
i'm guessing you are comparing REST to the overhead of primitive web pages, but that comparision makes no sense, you really don't need REST to build an efficient single page navigation webapp. besides, it's perfectly possible to build a network inefficient webapp with REST, and many of them indeed are. that's because the more technology and resources are available, the less developers do care (or even know) about efficiency, and believe that "RESTful" somehow is some alien magic for efficiency.
try this with any real-world problem beyond this simplistic example and you'll be so deep in a mess that you'll yearn to have even COBOL back.
also good luck becoming familiar which such a codebase (er, trigger base) after just 3 months worth of iterations. the only reason for such an approach to imply "reduced maintenance" is that it would be absolutely unmaintanable. real world apps don't have 500 loc, they have more like 500k. good luck grasping the behaviour of a system staring at 200k worth of triggers. so now, good boy, go ahead and change just one of them and be fascinated by the impact. oh, these kids with their brand new macs... i lov'em, they are soooo funny and they make us old hacks soooo indispensable!:-)
So because Snowden did one thing you like then everything he did is by definition perfect?
where did i say so?
And you're calling people who disagree with him on any issue "cock-sucking fud-spewing self-important minions"?
to disagree one has to make a valid case and i see none in the referred article, just farfetched speculation with no basis (actually, partly even based on a deliberate distortion of facts about snowden's employment history), with the evident intent to smear his reputation. that's called fud, and i simply don't buy it. what's there to agree or disagree with? i really don't know nothing about this kaplan guy, but i think i can safely assume that whoever wrote that piece of fud is a fud-spewing minion. granted, the cock-sucking part might be a bit out of the line... but it's also a clear and well understood metaphor. take it as a poetic licence, please.
Do you actually support Snowden, or are you an NSA-planted Agent Provacatuer?
neither. in my opinion what snowden did stands for itself, i see no point in further praising the guy or else dragging him through the mud. it's just noise.
but let's play kaplan's game for a while: do you think that a fud-spewing minion like him deserves clemency? can we speculate on the motives he had to write and publish such nonsense, why he deliberately distorts facts? see, it's not a nice game. it's for cocksuckers. let him have it all!:D
If he really wanted to make a point, he should come back and argue his case in court.
he has already made a point. you seem to have missed it.
besides, the obvious reason for him to stay away is that he can't reasonably expect a fair trial in the US. and that's the other important point he's making.
You must take the responsibility for what is done by your elected officials with your tax dollars.
besides the pun, i agree with you, just the 'by your elected officials" part made me grin because it appeals to the wrong principles. democracy isn't just about voting. in fact voting is actually the least important aspect, specially since power is so entrenched that poll outcome is largely irrelevant nowadays in most democracies. you also do not know if the poster is eligible for vote, or if he voted for that particular bunch of officials. odds are he didn't.
paint the organzation in a light that shows it to be an unchecked body with too much power and not enough supervision
and so the 'national security agency' revealed itself as one of the bigger threats to 'national security'. the enemy within...
Not that I, as a non-US citizen, or even resident, have a real say on the matter.
nobody really has because this is all just smoke. does snowden deserve clemency? what sort of sick brain brings up that question? it just tries to sneak in the assumption that he is guilty somehow, and that's what this is about. does this moron fred kaplan deserve clemency? snowden is actually irrelevant, now, except for anyone wanting to shoot the messenger rather than deal with reality.
we need more snowdens, and less cock-sucking fud-spewing self-important minions. i have no clemency for this one in my heart.
Americans have strange ideas about physical money - it's not better or worse than electronic. Just different.
electronic money is automatically traceable. since there's so much people liking to build and collect profiles on other people nowadays, and there is such poor control on what they can do with that, notes and coins are not just better but the only way to go. where, when and how i spend my cash is simply nobody else's business. last time i was in scandinavia i was amazed of the widespread use of credit cards for absolutely everything, and you could get some strange looks when paying with physical money. creepy. i thought it would be a funny place to live since i don't use credit cards. ever.
Video cameras to prevent drilling of the outer shell was never considered?
unfortunately all available video cameras are busy pointing at random public places. we're trying to run a surveillance state here, you insensitive clod!
that's all nice and good. but what has that to do with "Why Don't Open Source Databases Use GPUs?". because GPUs do provide little benefit to nowadays DBs! why aren't diamond shaped networks of bread toasters used for open source databases? it's just a stupid question, has nothing to do with "innovation being misunderstood". there's nothing to understand here besides the fact that someone apparently was in need to fill his news-roll with random bullshit.
should you? oh, because you said so? you have no right to get a revenue from your work, you only have the right to try. if it doesn't work, don't blame it on others.
Neither of which makes it right.
nor wrong.
Just because you can copy someone's digital work and they still have it does not morally justify your actions.
if you find it's inmoral, don't do it. what i find morally injustifiable is you wanting to impose your personal morals on others. keep them for yourself.
If you want a copy of a digital work, then you should reward the creator for creating it
no, see above.
further, I didn't ask the creator for anything.
even further, the creator didn't "reward" the zillions of people whose effort he himself used in order to produce his digital work.
the fact that they don't lose their bits is irrelevant.
it isn't. this is a necessary condition for "theft" in any legal code. you IP zealots want to equate copying with theft and that's why you come up with this "loss of rightful revenue" crap, which isn't rightful at all.
Otherwise, why should anyone bother to create any digital work?
exactly. why should they? to cry for some revenue they think themselves entitled to? funny.
fact is many of them do it just because they want. others because they actually do get a revenue. so what?
If everyone had your attitude, no-one would create any digital products.
it's not an attitude, it's elementary common sense and it is pervasive. and still... people keeps creating.
As it is, the people that don't pay are leaching off those that do.
besides ignoring (or twisting) reality you are intending to insult a lot of people with this. i would say it is inmoral, if it weren't just lame.
fact is most of websites suck nowadays, retarded mobile-only versions are just a special case. 5 years ago IE was the main spoiling factor. now it is both the tracking aberration and this new absurd craze about UX what is making the web unusable. we are designing web pages for idiots, then fiiling them up with spyware. what would you expect?
i've been coding software for decades, now. my last 4 or so years employed in a large, promising and cutting edge software company. one thing i can tell you: everybody is nuts in this profession. so make yourself comfortable, don't think too much about it and welcome to the club!
Little by little, we are making enemies of the world, and until we change our ways, less and les of the world is going to want to do business with us
you'll always have israel or saudi arabia... oh wait.
And as things get worse here, we're trying to take the rest of the world down with us.
to be fair most of the rest of the world is trying hard too. i guess we need some more snowdens of different nationalities just to get an approximate picture.
it's just business. the rest of the world has been happy to indulge and even collaborate in those wrong ways, many times. they just get a bit picky when it comes to snooping into their private affairs, even more let it be publicly known. but in the end it's the same gang al over the world and there's the honor among thieves. we need to expose them all, i see no other way.
I don't get it, FRA works for NSA so what's the difference?
demagogism, demagoguism, demagogy - the art and practice of gaining power and popularity by arousing the emotions, passions, and prejudices of the people. Also demagoguery. http://www.thefreedictionary.com/demagogy
that you even have to ask shows how good they're at it.
..."in fact musical creativity has boomed since technology has universalized (well, almost) the means for production and distribution"
You are fucking delusional, more content does not mean better and in fact, most of what is created sucks donkey balls, get a fucking clue!
you should really get yourself a dictionary before stomping into rational conversations you don't even understand. now do look up "creativity" and realize that the concept has nothing to do with any measure of "quality" you might be wanting to force on the rest of the world.
Money... Because that's what music is about. Burn in hell while listening to your mass-produced music, Idiot.
the whole issue is much more about music industry than about music itself, pretty much pointless and, well, just wrong: in fact musical creativity has boomed since technology has universalized (well, almost) the means for production and distribution. if TFA author would get his head out of his ass he could listen for himself. just count the occurrences of the word "production" in the post. you don't "produce" music, but "products": icons, myths, aesthetics, fashion. what is he talking about? mass-production. mass-produced music is like mass-produced everything else.
another aspect that is fuelling musical creativity nowadays is, not surprisingly in this scenario, economic crisis. it's driving people to find alternative ways to have fun, largely ignoring the mainstream canned offering. at least in europe more people every day are rediscovering folklore and old popular musical styles and instruments and combining them with modern styles and tech. in essence, they are rediscovering music. you won't hear that in mtv, though.
Slashdot Mirror
i wondering now why you didn't point it out. duh ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...
no actual NSA employees support him, and these are the absolute smartest people in the world, doing far more insane innovative things than anything in private industry.
there! so it was all a lie and they are not at microsoft!
(or ... maybe you even work for the nsa or [put equivalent gangster institution here] and are just another asshole enjoying the few crumbs of privilege and/or perceived superiority he can scrub off of what he spouts as being "deriving his own strength from power". and, you post it on ./, of course. hilarous).
Let the dev choose how they want others to use their code and don't worry about it.
that's exactly what rs is saying, and that's exactly what gpl aims to avoid. this means you either don't worry about software being free at all, or are simply too shortsighted to see the implications of this. either way you'll get what you are asking for, and eventually you won't like it.
it's easy: the community can build software foundations that no private enterprise can even dream of, but sucks at polishing and marketing those foundations as shiny products. industry, however, does that pretty well and excels in marketing. allowing the industry to apropriate and close that software means that people just will end up using non free software. what's the point?
i'd say, let them do their thing, but let software born free be free forever. it's just the fair thing to do. there is currently only one single license model that qualifies for that, and that's gpl, like it or not. if you are not supporting gpl, you are simply not supporting free software, for whatever reasons (i for once can't imagine any honest one).
you would use a RESTful service (such as HTTP) to minimize network traffic
REST services may reduce your server load (by simply not caring about state), and have other nice architectural benefits, but in no way reduce network traffic per se. a poor design can even imply an increase. in fact REST as transport is anything but efficient, it is ridiculously bloated if compared to binary transfer, for example.
i'm guessing you are comparing REST to the overhead of primitive web pages, but that comparision makes no sense, you really don't need REST to build an efficient single page navigation webapp. besides, it's perfectly possible to build a network inefficient webapp with REST, and many of them indeed are. that's because the more technology and resources are available, the less developers do care (or even know) about efficiency, and believe that "RESTful" somehow is some alien magic for efficiency.
try this with any real-world problem beyond this simplistic example and you'll be so deep in a mess that you'll yearn to have even COBOL back.
also good luck becoming familiar which such a codebase (er, trigger base) after just 3 months worth of iterations. the only reason for such an approach to imply "reduced maintenance" is that it would be absolutely unmaintanable. real world apps don't have 500 loc, they have more like 500k. good luck grasping the behaviour of a system staring at 200k worth of triggers. so now, good boy, go ahead and change just one of them and be fascinated by the impact. oh, these kids with their brand new macs ... i lov'em, they are soooo funny and they make us old hacks soooo indispensable! :-)
it's a visual aid used to help get the general idea across to people with limited technical understanding of what's actually going on.
that would be the whole population of the marble, right?
So because Snowden did one thing you like then everything he did is by definition perfect?
where did i say so?
And you're calling people who disagree with him on any issue "cock-sucking fud-spewing self-important minions"?
to disagree one has to make a valid case and i see none in the referred article, just farfetched speculation with no basis (actually, partly even based on a deliberate distortion of facts about snowden's employment history), with the evident intent to smear his reputation. that's called fud, and i simply don't buy it. what's there to agree or disagree with? i really don't know nothing about this kaplan guy, but i think i can safely assume that whoever wrote that piece of fud is a fud-spewing minion. granted, the cock-sucking part might be a bit out of the line ... but it's also a clear and well understood metaphor. take it as a poetic licence, please.
Do you actually support Snowden, or are you an NSA-planted Agent Provacatuer?
neither. in my opinion what snowden did stands for itself, i see no point in further praising the guy or else dragging him through the mud. it's just noise.
but let's play kaplan's game for a while: do you think that a fud-spewing minion like him deserves clemency? can we speculate on the motives he had to write and publish such nonsense, why he deliberately distorts facts? see, it's not a nice game. it's for cocksuckers. let him have it all! :D
If he really wanted to make a point, he should come back and argue his case in court.
he has already made a point. you seem to have missed it.
besides, the obvious reason for him to stay away is that he can't reasonably expect a fair trial in the US. and that's the other important point he's making.
US citizens cannot cop out like that.
so US isn't a free country, after all? :)
You must take the responsibility for what is done by your elected officials with your tax dollars.
besides the pun, i agree with you, just the 'by your elected officials" part made me grin because it appeals to the wrong principles. democracy isn't just about voting. in fact voting is actually the least important aspect, specially since power is so entrenched that poll outcome is largely irrelevant nowadays in most democracies. you also do not know if the poster is eligible for vote, or if he voted for that particular bunch of officials. odds are he didn't.
paint the organzation in a light that shows it to be an unchecked body with too much power and not enough supervision
and so the 'national security agency' revealed itself as one of the bigger threats to 'national security'. the enemy within ...
Not that I, as a non-US citizen, or even resident, have a real say on the matter.
nobody really has because this is all just smoke. does snowden deserve clemency? what sort of sick brain brings up that question? it just tries to sneak in the assumption that he is guilty somehow, and that's what this is about. does this moron fred kaplan deserve clemency? snowden is actually irrelevant, now, except for anyone wanting to shoot the messenger rather than deal with reality.
we need more snowdens, and less cock-sucking fud-spewing self-important minions. i have no clemency for this one in my heart.
Americans have strange ideas about physical money - it's not better or worse than electronic. Just different.
electronic money is automatically traceable. since there's so much people liking to build and collect profiles on other people nowadays, and there is such poor control on what they can do with that, notes and coins are not just better but the only way to go. where, when and how i spend my cash is simply nobody else's business. last time i was in scandinavia i was amazed of the widespread use of credit cards for absolutely everything, and you could get some strange looks when paying with physical money. creepy. i thought it would be a funny place to live since i don't use credit cards. ever.
Video cameras to prevent drilling of the outer shell was never considered?
unfortunately all available video cameras are busy pointing at random public places. we're trying to run a surveillance state here, you insensitive clod!
either you get spam, flames and shitposting, or forced registration/real id.
why stop there? you can have the best of both worlds with fake real ids!
that's all nice and good. but what has that to do with "Why Don't Open Source Databases Use GPUs?". because GPUs do provide little benefit to nowadays DBs! why aren't diamond shaped networks of bread toasters used for open source databases? it's just a stupid question, has nothing to do with "innovation being misunderstood". there's nothing to understand here besides the fact that someone apparently was in need to fill his news-roll with random bullshit.
But the moment you want to use their product, you should be bound by their rules
you blurry the difference between "use" and "own" in the same way GP deliberately confuses "copy" and "theft".
i simply don't buy this false assumption, and your example just sits on top of it. thanks.
I wondered how long it would take to morph a discussion on how Dubai suppresses speech into "USA Evil!!!!" Congratulations!
the morph was from "Dubai suppresses speech" to "USA suppresses speech". pretty related.
meaning there was nothing to celebrate until you brought up the false equivalence. congratulations!
Apart from the revenue I should have got.
should you? oh, because you said so? you have no right to get a revenue from your work, you only have the right to try. if it doesn't work, don't blame it on others.
Neither of which makes it right.
nor wrong.
Just because you can copy someone's digital work and they still have it does not morally justify your actions.
if you find it's inmoral, don't do it. what i find morally injustifiable is you wanting to impose your personal morals on others. keep them for yourself.
If you want a copy of a digital work, then you should reward the creator for creating it
no, see above.
further, I didn't ask the creator for anything.
even further, the creator didn't "reward" the zillions of people whose effort he himself used in order to produce his digital work.
the fact that they don't lose their bits is irrelevant.
it isn't. this is a necessary condition for "theft" in any legal code. you IP zealots want to equate copying with theft and that's why you come up with this "loss of rightful revenue" crap, which isn't rightful at all.
Otherwise, why should anyone bother to create any digital work?
exactly. why should they? to cry for some revenue they think themselves entitled to? funny.
fact is many of them do it just because they want. others because they actually do get a revenue. so what?
If everyone had your attitude, no-one would create any digital products.
it's not an attitude, it's elementary common sense and it is pervasive. and still ... people keeps creating.
As it is, the people that don't pay are leaching off those that do.
besides ignoring (or twisting) reality you are intending to insult a lot of people with this. i would say it is inmoral, if it weren't just lame.
Fact.
JS rocks, they're doing it wrong.
fact is most of websites suck nowadays, retarded mobile-only versions are just a special case. 5 years ago IE was the main spoiling factor. now it is both the tracking aberration and this new absurd craze about UX what is making the web unusable. we are designing web pages for idiots, then fiiling them up with spyware. what would you expect?
i've been coding software for decades, now. my last 4 or so years employed in a large, promising and cutting edge software company. one thing i can tell you: everybody is nuts in this profession. so make yourself comfortable, don't think too much about it and welcome to the club!
Little by little, we are making enemies of the world, and until we change our ways, less and les of the world is going to want to do business with us
you'll always have israel or saudi arabia ... oh wait.
And as things get worse here, we're trying to take the rest of the world down with us.
to be fair most of the rest of the world is trying hard too. i guess we need some more snowdens of different nationalities just to get an approximate picture.
it's just business. the rest of the world has been happy to indulge and even collaborate in those wrong ways, many times. they just get a bit picky when it comes to snooping into their private affairs, even more let it be publicly known. but in the end it's the same gang al over the world and there's the honor among thieves. we need to expose them all, i see no other way.
I don't get it, FRA works for NSA so what's the difference?
demagogism, demagoguism, demagogy
- the art and practice of gaining power and popularity by arousing the emotions, passions, and prejudices of the people. Also demagoguery.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/demagogy
that you even have to ask shows how good they're at it.
Yes, science fiction novels are a great source of political theory and quoting them definitely bolsters your point. Nothing better than that~
do you realize that everybody making points in this thread is doing so upon the opinions of a science fiction novel writer?
Better yet, I'd like to know how modern day has differed from what they were expecting in the 80's.
we didn't expect cyberspace to become one single gigantic and depressing shopping mall. we were naive.
You are fucking delusional, more content does not mean better and in fact, most of what is created sucks donkey balls, get a fucking clue!
you should really get yourself a dictionary before stomping into rational conversations you don't even understand. now do look up "creativity" and realize that the concept has nothing to do with any measure of "quality" you might be wanting to force on the rest of the world.
Money... Because that's what music is about. Burn in hell while listening to your mass-produced music, Idiot.
the whole issue is much more about music industry than about music itself, pretty much pointless and, well, just wrong: in fact musical creativity has boomed since technology has universalized (well, almost) the means for production and distribution. if TFA author would get his head out of his ass he could listen for himself. just count the occurrences of the word "production" in the post. you don't "produce" music, but "products": icons, myths, aesthetics, fashion. what is he talking about? mass-production. mass-produced music is like mass-produced everything else.
another aspect that is fuelling musical creativity nowadays is, not surprisingly in this scenario, economic crisis. it's driving people to find alternative ways to have fun, largely ignoring the mainstream canned offering. at least in europe more people every day are rediscovering folklore and old popular musical styles and instruments and combining them with modern styles and tech. in essence, they are rediscovering music. you won't hear that in mtv, though.