that the proportion of my other acquaintances (all sorts of professions) that are on g+ is negligible. it was implicit.
Or are your bosses so thick they think you're working while you're on facebook, just because your job is something to do with computers?
they don't give a sht on what employees do as long as stuff get's done right, and it does. smart bosses, really. i probably wouldn't be working for them if they weren't:D
Facebook has a "two way" model (where two people have to agree to be 'friends'). This fosters a community of people who "post to each other"; sort of a friends keeping in touch type of model. Google+ is a one way thing. You put a person in your circles. Then, if they post to public, you get their content in your feed. (Google+ also has the concept of private posts where you can post just to your circles instead of public). However, just circling someone gets you their public content.
no difference here. you can see public postings from anyone in FB doing nothing, just looking at their profile. if you [like] them you get their crap served right on your wall. it's exactly the same. in fact g+ is a (far) better copy of fb, nothing new here.
It isn't designed to directly compete.
not by design, but because they have different intended audiencies. google with his moronic name policy and his geekish and stylish look and feel aims more at professionals. my impression is google just wants it more selective. FB is for everyone, it's packed with all sorts of individuals, from kids to housewives to businesses to you name it.
in my job (IT) almost everyone is on facebook, and lots of fun and crazy stuff is shared every day. just a 10% is on g+ were they now and then post some geek news, just so to show they are there.
More specifically, IE 9+ will load the script outside the comment bubble, which is exactly what I what it do it.
more specifically, yours is not even valid html. behavior on compliant browsers is thus undefined. even behavior on future versions of IE is undefined. your html is only guarranteed to work as you expect on known versions of IE. great stuff.
I can tell you're not very good at web development.
Having learned about IE conditional comments a couple minutes ago, I can tell you're not very good at web development.
yet what you suggest does NOT do what he is asking for. IE will still try to load the scripts linked outside the conditional comment bubble. there's really no other "good" solution to this besides dumping IE.
conditional comments are just bastardry. using them you are contributing to allow MS keep on bastardizing the web. that's not what i would consider "being good at web development". it's being a bastard developer. a good developer adheres to standards and enforces them.
Does this also load 2.0.0 for browsers that aren't IE at all, or would you have to do something extra for that part?
for other browsers the comments are just... comments, so they will load both scripts, one replacing the other. this should work fine most of the time, but yes, it's insane and it's very common. welcome to the web!
methinks it was irony. it made me smile, anyway. because it's not completely unbelievable that some fuctard in some govt office or news show eventually dished out such and idiotic thought to fuel the turrsts panic story. in fact, it's a very accurate caricature. bitter, if you like, but caricatures often are.
so what? i download everything i want (which is not much, but is just what i happen to want).
i will never, ever, buy another book, game, dvd, whatever. it's years already since i haven't, and i will not do it again until this retarded, obnoxious swindle and mass idiocy about IP is out of the picture. not a single dime.
got it? now you may keep calling it stealing if you so wish. you can also suck my dick. enjoy:-)
if said drawing were copyrighted, and you then turned around and started selling copies of that drawing to others, then that would be piracy (and not theft).
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: "Piracy is an act of robbery or criminal violence at sea. "
the RIAA or MPAA have not only coluded your civil rights already, they aren't only a serious threat for your freedom of speech, they have already hijacked your language, thus effectively manipulating and screwing your thinking. sad.
(granted, most of the nitpicks are true, but nobody is forcing you to use it),
that's very good, that i'm not forced to use it. because it's still garbage.
let's define garbage. php works, has low requirements, and is a nice example of community effort. however it's language and api design is a complete improvisation thrown together, with no structure or even central concept at all. even in this world bubbling with brilliant-new-fashion platform ideas every day, php shines as an example of one of those ideas done wrong and gone worse. ok, it works. vb works too. but it's simply not serious.
but somewhat mention Eclipse as a good thing. From my (limited) experience, Eclipse is a poor excuse of an IDE
says it all.
that can't even handle gracefuly a PHP application such as Magento (a somewhat big PHP codebase, but small if compared to an "enterprise" Java project).
fail. i've done many many web projects in php (don't blame me!) in eclipse with no problem whatsoever. eclipse is a resource hungry beast, but it is manageable and sports features no other ide has. you may not like it, but again, you seem to like php. there could be something to it!.D
You want to treat cancer by incinerating victims, too?
your analogy is wrong. a more accurate one would be "i'd prevent lung cancer by shutting off the tobacco industry"
of course i don't advocate for that either. the only real solution is education. but that's gonna be a hell of an effort and i don't see how the white house, the department of homeland security, the house of representatives, joe lieberman or a bunch of crap selling fluff spraying corporations could be of any help at that, not to mention they could very well be part of the problem!
But, since there's a slam on MS, I see you're getting modded up.
that's a very interesting issue! ms should definitely be liable to some extent for the all those botnets. it's just weird that nobody has already pressed charges for criminal negligence, not even in the suing states of america!:o)
you mean they are given away "for free" so you can "buy" windows licenses. i'm not saying this is bad, but it is still very far from "Their work does lots of good for the world."
What exactly hasn't been contributed?
so what has been contributed? with respect to society, this could be debatable. but in the sense of r&d (which is the topic, incidentally) ms has contributed practically nothing. could you just cite one single innovation from ms? quite the contrary, they have a long record of profiting from other's contributions. they may have poured billions on research (dunno, really) but absolutely nothing worth of mention has come out of that. the cited items do not qualify as innovation, they are plain mfg.
I'd say C#, F#, and ClearType are pretty big contributions
thanks for sparing me the time to check out most of the items in that list, most of which i had never heard of. i quickly looked up cleartype and it turns out that those ms-r&d guys... just invented font anti-aliasing! 20ish years late, but nobody is perfect. but anyway if you consider that c# is a contribution to the world (and a big one for that matter) then the rest should be pretty irrelevant junk.
c#!!! ye gods & little fishes. the only thing c# has contributed to the world is largely replacing vd, thus keeping existing dev-base around, thus maintaining windows' sale figures. contribution in regards of academic research would be next to zero. in fact there's is no single concept in whole.net that was radically new, its just known stuff wrapped together with commercial purpose. it has indeed extensive application, but that doesn't mean it is crucial for that applications to exist. it just means royalties and licenses go to ms instead of others. this contributed to microsoft, not the world. your citation is invalid, try again.:)
For once, the actual work. Is the code you need written strategic for your business? What is it's expected life cycle? Is it a relatively isolated module? How much expertise or know how from you own business or company policies does it imply? You just state it's "monkey work"... well, what's that supposed to be? For me there's no such thing, If you need code monkeys then it means to me you produce crap software, in that case who cares, get the cheapest monkeys you can find.
Then there's the professionals. Do they have the required skill, commitment and availability you require? Can these be verified somehow? Again, if you just need monkeys then why bother? Just go ahead for a walk in the zoo and pick the cheapests you can find. If your requirements are high then you should choose very carefully, and it would normally make a lot of sense to seek long-term relationships or even hire them permanently if business permits.
As usual with slashdot questions... there's no real answer. It lacks all vital details.
I used to work with a team of developers, but for reasons outside the scope of this question, my boss and I are the only ones left.
See, I find this is a very important detail, specially in relation to your question, and definitely in scope. What's the problem with coders in your company? If isn't in scope and you don't want to explain why do you even mention it? It just suggests your boss has a hard time holding a team together, and in that case the question would be kind of irrelevant.
they can't. for now they only produce eliza-like simulations on very restricted domains. just look at the crap examples that fluff company exposes on their site, then consider that's the best they can come up with.
I'm not sure how successful a computer would be at generating the tag lines like "from the kicking-newspaper-writers-when-they're-down dept.", but the rest seems doable.
so composing and abstract is "already done" and a tag line is "would be?". you haven't thought a lot about this, did you?
the real nut here is not just "parse some data" but extract a semantic model out from some text (pcik your domain, ofc), then you need a reasoning/inferential engine with a meta-model that could make sensible use of that. once you got that right, producing taglines, abstracts or full literary articles would indeed be trivial. but software technolgy is nowhere near that point.
1. WE declare patents null. 2. we refuse to pay for patented stuf 3. we exercise our natural right to use any stuff available for free happily disregarding any patent. 3.1. a simple citizen doing 3 should have nothing or little to fear 3.2. a startup doing 3 is surely screwed, but screw them. get a job, invest in something else, whatever but just stop whining, this is war. 3.3. a corporation doing 3 will enoy big time litigating with other corporations for the monopoly of products nobody will buy as result of 2. be my guest.
Microsoft's strategy has always been thinking long term. Even the first Xbox - that first caused large loss - showed this, as they are now the market leader. This same goes for Bing, Nokia, Facebook, their mobile offerings and everything else they produce.
microsoft strategy has never had anything to do with long term vision. that's why EVERY ms product line apart from 2 (win "os", and xbox live) has miserably failed to date.
300 million bucks for a shitty reader on a shitty platform... this makes zuckerberg's 1b buy of instagram look sound. good luck. and of course, welcome to the bubble.
so we should ask the greeks about their "insanely generous social programs"? funny guy.
Yes, you should. They drove the country to the very brink of bankruptcy.
greece has never had any "social programs" worth to mention whatsoever. they just had massive state employment. but that they have had for decades without "driving to the very brink of bankruptcy". they are almost broke now, thanks to political corruption and financial speculation and incidentally germany and france had plenty to do with it, not to forget goldman sachs.
Sarkozy on the other hand is as genuine as it gets, and he will always have my admiration for being able to render an islamic activist speechless during a television interview (those guys usually won't stop babbling). Sarkozy is the guy that ordered the woman in charge of budget cuts to downsize her own team - that was awesome. He tried to open eyes in France to
as appalling as your admiration for this guy's virtues is, you have a point in that it is actually this kind of mindset what motivates most voters, and that this bullshit is what democracy turns out to be all about. very sad.
the danger of having insanely generous social programs (ask the Greeks)
so we should ask the greeks about their "insanely generous social programs"? funny guy.
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What has your job got to do with it?
that the proportion of my other acquaintances (all sorts of professions) that are on g+ is negligible. it was implicit.
Or are your bosses so thick they think you're working while you're on facebook, just because your job is something to do with computers?
they don't give a sht on what employees do as long as stuff get's done right, and it does. smart bosses, really. i probably wouldn't be working for them if they weren't :D
Facebook has a "two way" model (where two people have to agree to be 'friends'). This fosters a community of people who "post to each other"; sort of a friends keeping in touch type of model. Google+ is a one way thing. You put a person in your circles. Then, if they post to public, you get their content in your feed. (Google+ also has the concept of private posts where you can post just to your circles instead of public). However, just circling someone gets you their public content.
no difference here. you can see public postings from anyone in FB doing nothing, just looking at their profile. if you [like] them you get their crap served right on your wall. it's exactly the same. in fact g+ is a (far) better copy of fb, nothing new here.
It isn't designed to directly compete.
not by design, but because they have different intended audiencies. google with his moronic name policy and his geekish and stylish look and feel aims more at professionals. my impression is google just wants it more selective. FB is for everyone, it's packed with all sorts of individuals, from kids to housewives to businesses to you name it.
in my job (IT) almost everyone is on facebook, and lots of fun and crazy stuff is shared every day. just a 10% is on g+ were they now and then post some geek news, just so to show they are there.
More specifically, IE 9+ will load the script outside the comment bubble, which is exactly what I what it do it.
more specifically, yours is not even valid html. behavior on compliant browsers is thus undefined. even behavior on future versions of IE is undefined.
your html is only guarranteed to work as you expect on known versions of IE. great stuff.
I can tell you're not very good at web development.
fail :-)
Having learned about IE conditional comments a couple minutes ago, I can tell you're not very good at web development.
yet what you suggest does NOT do what he is asking for. IE will still try to load the scripts linked outside the conditional comment bubble. there's really no other "good" solution to this besides dumping IE.
conditional comments are just bastardry. using them you are contributing to allow MS keep on bastardizing the web. that's not what i would consider "being good at web development". it's being a bastard developer. a good developer adheres to standards and enforces them.
Does this also load 2.0.0 for browsers that aren't IE at all, or would you have to do something extra for that part?
for other browsers the comments are just ... comments, so they will load both scripts, one replacing the other.
this should work fine most of the time, but yes, it's insane and it's very common. welcome to the web!
"now-untrusted certificates"
"However, the company said it was confident none of them had been compromised or used maliciously"
thats either idiots talking, or someone talking to idiots.
methinks it was irony. it made me smile, anyway.
because it's not completely unbelievable that some fuctard in some govt office or news show eventually dished out such and idiotic thought to fuel the turrsts panic story. in fact, it's a very accurate caricature. bitter, if you like, but caricatures often are.
in other words: just propaganda.
i thought so. moving on.
so what?
i download everything i want (which is not much, but is just what i happen to want).
i will never, ever, buy another book, game, dvd, whatever. it's years already since i haven't, and i will not do it again until this retarded, obnoxious swindle and mass idiocy about IP is out of the picture. not a single dime.
got it? :-)
now you may keep calling it stealing if you so wish. you can also suck my dick. enjoy
if said drawing were copyrighted, and you then turned around and started selling copies of that drawing to others, then that would be piracy (and not theft).
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia:
"Piracy is an act of robbery or criminal violence at sea. "
the RIAA or MPAA have not only coluded your civil rights already, they aren't only a serious threat for your freedom of speech, they have already hijacked your language, thus effectively manipulating and screwing your thinking. sad.
I find it funny that you think PHP is garbage
because it is.
(granted, most of the nitpicks are true, but nobody is forcing you to use it),
that's very good, that i'm not forced to use it. because it's still garbage.
let's define garbage. php works, has low requirements, and is a nice example of community effort. however it's language and api design is a complete improvisation thrown together, with no structure or even central concept at all. even in this world bubbling with brilliant-new-fashion platform ideas every day, php shines as an example of one of those ideas done wrong and gone worse. ok, it works. vb works too. but it's simply not serious.
but somewhat mention Eclipse as a good thing. From my (limited) experience, Eclipse is a poor excuse of an IDE
says it all.
that can't even handle gracefuly a PHP application such as Magento (a somewhat big PHP codebase, but small if compared to an "enterprise" Java project).
fail. i've done many many web projects in php (don't blame me!) in eclipse with no problem whatsoever. eclipse is a resource hungry beast, but it is manageable and sports features no other ide has. you may not like it, but again, you seem to like php. there could be something to it! .D
You want to treat cancer by incinerating victims, too?
your analogy is wrong. a more accurate one would be "i'd prevent lung cancer by shutting off the tobacco industry"
of course i don't advocate for that either. the only real solution is education. but that's gonna be a hell of an effort and i don't see how the white house, the department of homeland security, the house of representatives, joe lieberman or a bunch of crap selling fluff spraying corporations could be of any help at that, not to mention they could very well be part of the problem!
But, since there's a slam on MS, I see you're getting modded up.
that's a very interesting issue! ms should definitely be liable to some extent for the all those botnets. it's just weird that nobody has already pressed charges for criminal negligence, not even in the suing states of america! :o)
if botnets were the issue they'd ban windows and bam! all botnets down.
but botnets aren't the issue. illusion of control is.
..and Redhat gives away their OS "for free" so you can buy a support contract from them.
so? when did i state rh's work "does lots of good for the world"?
You are a stereotypical slashdot poster - always holding MS to some double-standard so that you can always paint MS as evil.
you are a stereotypical moron. i said nothing about double-standards or about ms being evil.
.NET, C#, VB.NET, and F# are all free...
you mean they are given away "for free" so you can "buy" windows licenses. i'm not saying this is bad, but it is still very far from "Their work does lots of good for the world."
What exactly hasn't been contributed?
so what has been contributed? with respect to society, this could be debatable. but in the sense of r&d (which is the topic, incidentally) ms has contributed practically nothing. could you just cite one single innovation from ms? quite the contrary, they have a long record of profiting from other's contributions. they may have poured billions on research (dunno, really) but absolutely nothing worth of mention has come out of that. the cited items do not qualify as innovation, they are plain mfg.
I'd say C#, F#, and ClearType are pretty big contributions
thanks for sparing me the time to check out most of the items in that list, most of which i had never heard of. i quickly looked up cleartype and it turns out that those ms-r&d guys ... just invented font anti-aliasing! 20ish years late, but nobody is perfect. but anyway if you consider that c# is a contribution to the world (and a big one for that matter) then the rest should be pretty irrelevant junk.
c#!!! ye gods & little fishes. the only thing c# has contributed to the world is largely replacing vd, thus keeping existing dev-base around, thus maintaining windows' sale figures. contribution in regards of academic research would be next to zero. in fact there's is no single concept in whole .net that was radically new, its just known stuff wrapped together with commercial purpose. it has indeed extensive application, but that doesn't mean it is crucial for that applications to exist. it just means royalties and licenses go to ms instead of others. this contributed to microsoft, not the world. your citation is invalid, try again. :)
There are two main factors to consider.
For once, the actual work. Is the code you need written strategic for your business? What is it's expected life cycle? Is it a relatively isolated module? How much expertise or know how from you own business or company policies does it imply? You just state it's "monkey work" ... well, what's that supposed to be? For me there's no such thing, If you need code monkeys then it means to me you produce crap software, in that case who cares, get the cheapest monkeys you can find.
Then there's the professionals. Do they have the required skill, commitment and availability you require? Can these be verified somehow? Again, if you just need monkeys then why bother? Just go ahead for a walk in the zoo and pick the cheapests you can find. If your requirements are high then you should choose very carefully, and it would normally make a lot of sense to seek long-term relationships or even hire them permanently if business permits.
As usual with slashdot questions ... there's no real answer. It lacks all vital details.
I used to work with a team of developers, but for reasons outside the scope of this question, my boss and I are the only ones left.
See, I find this is a very important detail, specially in relation to your question, and definitely in scope. What's the problem with coders in your company? If isn't in scope and you don't want to explain why do you even mention it? It just suggests your boss has a hard time holding a team together, and in that case the question would be kind of irrelevant.
sorry, sir, no. guess i had the wrong meta-model loaded ...
Computers can already do those things
they can't. for now they only produce eliza-like simulations on very restricted domains. just look at the crap examples that fluff company exposes on their site, then consider that's the best they can come up with.
I'm not sure how successful a computer would be at generating the tag lines like "from the kicking-newspaper-writers-when-they're-down dept.", but the rest seems doable.
so composing and abstract is "already done" and a tag line is "would be?". you haven't thought a lot about this, did you?
the real nut here is not just "parse some data" but extract a semantic model out from some text (pcik your domain, ofc), then you need a reasoning/inferential engine with a meta-model that could make sensible use of that. once you got that right, producing taglines, abstracts or full literary articles would indeed be trivial. but software technolgy is nowhere near that point.
1. WE declare patents null.
2. we refuse to pay for patented stuf
3. we exercise our natural right to use any stuff available for free happily disregarding any patent.
3.1. a simple citizen doing 3 should have nothing or little to fear
3.2. a startup doing 3 is surely screwed, but screw them. get a job, invest in something else, whatever but just stop whining, this is war.
3.3. a corporation doing 3 will enoy big time litigating with other corporations for the monopoly of products nobody will buy as result of 2. be my guest.
If you have 20 years of development working with all sort of programming language, OS, and can't figure (...)
no need to be so rude. poor guy was absolutely honest from line one: "I was a consultant ". what would you expect?
just enjoy all the farting, cool hints, and of course the gamemaker spam!
Microsoft's strategy has always been thinking long term. Even the first Xbox - that first caused large loss - showed this, as they are now the market leader. This same goes for Bing, Nokia, Facebook, their mobile offerings and everything else they produce.
microsoft strategy has never had anything to do with long term vision. that's why EVERY ms product line apart from 2 (win "os", and xbox live) has miserably failed to date.
300 million bucks for a shitty reader on a shitty platform ... this makes zuckerberg's 1b buy of instagram look sound. good luck. and of course, welcome to the bubble.
Not to the brink. Greece is actually bankrupt, having defaulted on it's debt.
greece hasn't defaulted yet. second "rescue" plan avoided that for now.
it seems you guys really do not only read just the same shitty mainstream media, but don't even understand what's written there.
so we should ask the greeks about their "insanely generous social programs"? funny guy.
Yes, you should. They drove the country to the very brink of bankruptcy.
greece has never had any "social programs" worth to mention whatsoever. they just had massive state employment. but that they have had for decades without "driving to the very brink of bankruptcy". they are almost broke now, thanks to political corruption and financial speculation and incidentally germany and france had plenty to do with it, not to forget goldman sachs.
Sarkozy on the other hand is as genuine as it gets, and he will always have my admiration for being able to render an islamic activist speechless during a television interview (those guys usually won't stop babbling). Sarkozy is the guy that ordered the woman in charge of budget cuts to downsize her own team - that was awesome. He tried to open eyes in France to
as appalling as your admiration for this guy's virtues is, you have a point in that it is actually this kind of mindset what motivates most voters, and that this bullshit is what democracy turns out to be all about. very sad.
the danger of having insanely generous social programs (ask the Greeks)
so we should ask the greeks about their "insanely generous social programs"? funny guy.