My thought exactly. In some of those cases, it was not just one magnet that the child swallowed, but 12 or even 27?! How does a child eat 27 magnets without anyone stopping it? I have a nephew that is two, and he occasionally will find something random to stick in his mouth. But someone is always watching him, and he has been taught "spit it out". I might not be able to stop him from ever putting anything in his mouth, but at the very least, I'll see it and he will spit it out as soon as I say so. There is no way he would ever be able to sit and eat 27 magnets. That is absurd and only the parents can be blamed.
I see your point. But without used game sales, it could allow them to drop prices faster on new games. Maybe they will have bigger sales. In other words, if there were no used game sales, you could buy new games for cheaper and keep them for good. If they do it right, the only people hurt would be Gamestop. However, I'm not entirely sure that it would be the case.
The main point is that it is just a patent application. Hopefully it is never implemented.
Why does everyone jump to conclusions? Why can't it be like Steam? It could be linked to a PSN account and played on multiple machines via that account. There is no why of knowing, since they didn't specify and since this is only a patent. Though I do agree that the console game prices could use a decrease.
Does it say in the patent that it would be locked to a specific machine? I believe it says that it will be locked to a specific player ID. Now, whether that is a local user on the system or a PSN account, I don't know. But why couldn't it be a PSN account? You can have your PSN account on multiple systems, so I don't see why you couldn't play the disc on multiple systems. If it is PSN, then it only really affects resale of the game. There is no reason that you can't play it on another system, you just have to set up your PSN on that system. Similar to Steam.
Exactly. There is a lot of Sony hate and bashing on here, and why? I buy new games and never resell, so I could care less if it is linked to my account. My Steam games are linked to my account. Also, since everything is eventually moving off of physical media, isn't this just a step towards eliminating said media? Everything is eventually going to be download only and linked to your account, what does it matter that they do it with discs now? Will it make all of your games unplayable if your console dies? I doubt it. I see no good reason to think that it would.
Oh yes, and let's not forget that this is a patent. This does not mean that all games forward will use this. This does not even mean that it will ever make it to the PS4. There are a ton of unused patents out there, so there is no reason to equate a patent to something that is definitely going to happen.
So yeah.. If you don't like Sony, don't buy their product. "I stopped buying anything Sony years ago after such and such incident." Who cares? I know Sony doesn't, and your hate for them is not going to prevent me from buying their product. I am not a sheep, as some would say. I get many hours of enjoyment out of my PS3, and I have no quarrels with Sony. They have a product that I want, and it is a good product.
I agree with this. The games I play all look great and I enjoy the game. Heavy Rain looked amazing. Have you seen trailers for Last of Us? It looks great. The main thing for me is gameplay.
Note: Developers will still aim for 30fps. That does not mean that the consoles will be inferior or only able to handle 30fps. I think it's more about developers being lazy, not an issue with what the hardware can handle. The hardware specs have yet to be releases for next gen consoles, so one can only guess what they will be. Maybe they will be superior to current PCs. Very unlikely, but you never know.
Also, I highly doubt mobile devices take over consoles any time soon. Why would I buy a tablet for more than three times the cost of a console to replace a console? Not to mention the lack of power in most tablets.
It is probably due to most of the 72% not being educated and basing their knowledge from video games. I am a gamer myself, and have play a lot of COD, but I disagree with any tactic that causes civilian casualties on a regular basis. Is it the fault of the games? I think not. I would hope that the 72% consists mainly of 14 year old kids who just think it's cool to call in a predator missile, and not voting adults that are clueless to real world consequences of such actions.
I find it interesting that people find it unplayable. I wonder how isolated the issues were. I had plenty of hours and only had minor issues (I don't remember exactly how many, but it was over 100). My dad played for over 300 hours and only had minor issues.
Interesting. I can tell the difference between phone as easily as I can tell the difference between a Camaro and a Mustang. I can tell them apart instantly and from a fair distance.
I agree with this. Also, my girlfriend works there and I would much rather them evacuate than my girlfriend get blown up because they ignored a threat by "a 12 year old kid" that turns out to be real.
Really? I had a Galaxy S and it looked and felt nothing like an iPhone. Car analogy for/.? Sure, I feel that it's basically like mistaking a Camaro for a Charger. Really, they're that different. They're both muscle cars, they're both nice, they both have the same basic functions, but they're entirely different and anyone that knows anything about cars would never confuse them.
That's the kind of attitude that I'm talking about. All corporations are corrupt. Sony got caught with one thing and no one lets it go. What about oil companies? They're pretty corrupt, do you still use a car that requires gas? You're supporting them. I support Sony because I like their product. The PSN hack? They made up for it. EVERYONE can be hacked, no exceptions, get over it.
Even if they did at one point, then they have probably stopped by now. All posts about Sony are just filled with haters talking about how they will never buy Sony because of the same three arguments. If I worked for Sony, then I would have stopped worrying about the opinion of slashdotters a long time ago.
My guess with the lack of backward compatibility (if it's true) is to save cost so they can sell it for cheaper than $600. With the PS3 they ended up just taking it out and pissing people off because they needed to do something to lower the price since people were complaining about the price.
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My thought exactly. In some of those cases, it was not just one magnet that the child swallowed, but 12 or even 27?! How does a child eat 27 magnets without anyone stopping it? I have a nephew that is two, and he occasionally will find something random to stick in his mouth. But someone is always watching him, and he has been taught "spit it out". I might not be able to stop him from ever putting anything in his mouth, but at the very least, I'll see it and he will spit it out as soon as I say so. There is no way he would ever be able to sit and eat 27 magnets. That is absurd and only the parents can be blamed.
I see your point. But without used game sales, it could allow them to drop prices faster on new games. Maybe they will have bigger sales. In other words, if there were no used game sales, you could buy new games for cheaper and keep them for good. If they do it right, the only people hurt would be Gamestop. However, I'm not entirely sure that it would be the case.
The main point is that it is just a patent application. Hopefully it is never implemented.
Thank you. I thought that this should be obvious to everyone on /., but that doesn't seem to be the case.
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"no way* of knowing"
Accidentally hit "Submit" instead of "Continue Editing". *facepalm*
Why does everyone jump to conclusions? Why can't it be like Steam? It could be linked to a PSN account and played on multiple machines via that account. There is no why of knowing, since they didn't specify and since this is only a patent. Though I do agree that the console game prices could use a decrease.
Does it say in the patent that it would be locked to a specific machine? I believe it says that it will be locked to a specific player ID. Now, whether that is a local user on the system or a PSN account, I don't know. But why couldn't it be a PSN account? You can have your PSN account on multiple systems, so I don't see why you couldn't play the disc on multiple systems. If it is PSN, then it only really affects resale of the game. There is no reason that you can't play it on another system, you just have to set up your PSN on that system. Similar to Steam.
Exactly. There is a lot of Sony hate and bashing on here, and why? I buy new games and never resell, so I could care less if it is linked to my account. My Steam games are linked to my account. Also, since everything is eventually moving off of physical media, isn't this just a step towards eliminating said media? Everything is eventually going to be download only and linked to your account, what does it matter that they do it with discs now? Will it make all of your games unplayable if your console dies? I doubt it. I see no good reason to think that it would.
Oh yes, and let's not forget that this is a patent. This does not mean that all games forward will use this. This does not even mean that it will ever make it to the PS4. There are a ton of unused patents out there, so there is no reason to equate a patent to something that is definitely going to happen.
So yeah.. If you don't like Sony, don't buy their product. "I stopped buying anything Sony years ago after such and such incident." Who cares? I know Sony doesn't, and your hate for them is not going to prevent me from buying their product. I am not a sheep, as some would say. I get many hours of enjoyment out of my PS3, and I have no quarrels with Sony. They have a product that I want, and it is a good product.
Commenting because my mouse jumped and clicked the wrong option and I accidentally modded down.
I agree with this. The games I play all look great and I enjoy the game. Heavy Rain looked amazing. Have you seen trailers for Last of Us? It looks great. The main thing for me is gameplay.
Note: Developers will still aim for 30fps. That does not mean that the consoles will be inferior or only able to handle 30fps. I think it's more about developers being lazy, not an issue with what the hardware can handle. The hardware specs have yet to be releases for next gen consoles, so one can only guess what they will be. Maybe they will be superior to current PCs. Very unlikely, but you never know.
Also, I highly doubt mobile devices take over consoles any time soon. Why would I buy a tablet for more than three times the cost of a console to replace a console? Not to mention the lack of power in most tablets.
It is probably due to most of the 72% not being educated and basing their knowledge from video games. I am a gamer myself, and have play a lot of COD, but I disagree with any tactic that causes civilian casualties on a regular basis. Is it the fault of the games? I think not. I would hope that the 72% consists mainly of 14 year old kids who just think it's cool to call in a predator missile, and not voting adults that are clueless to real world consequences of such actions.
No mod points, so you have to settle for this.
I find it interesting that people find it unplayable. I wonder how isolated the issues were. I had plenty of hours and only had minor issues (I don't remember exactly how many, but it was over 100). My dad played for over 300 hours and only had minor issues.
Interesting. I can tell the difference between phone as easily as I can tell the difference between a Camaro and a Mustang. I can tell them apart instantly and from a fair distance.
You can't tell the difference between phones?
Really? If someone illegally obtains information, they should be allowed to ask for money to keep quiet?
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Nice.
I agree with this. Also, my girlfriend works there and I would much rather them evacuate than my girlfriend get blown up because they ignored a threat by "a 12 year old kid" that turns out to be real.
Really? I had a Galaxy S and it looked and felt nothing like an iPhone. Car analogy for /.? Sure, I feel that it's basically like mistaking a Camaro for a Charger. Really, they're that different. They're both muscle cars, they're both nice, they both have the same basic functions, but they're entirely different and anyone that knows anything about cars would never confuse them.
or.. is it wrongful death? Ugh.. Sorry, too much overtime.
But then you ignore a credible threat, people die, and there is a major lawsuit for unlawful death.
(re-posted because I accidentally posted AC because I wasn't logged in anymore *facepalm*)
That's the kind of attitude that I'm talking about. All corporations are corrupt. Sony got caught with one thing and no one lets it go. What about oil companies? They're pretty corrupt, do you still use a car that requires gas? You're supporting them. I support Sony because I like their product. The PSN hack? They made up for it. EVERYONE can be hacked, no exceptions, get over it.
If any of them read /.
Even if they did at one point, then they have probably stopped by now. All posts about Sony are just filled with haters talking about how they will never buy Sony because of the same three arguments. If I worked for Sony, then I would have stopped worrying about the opinion of slashdotters a long time ago.
My guess with the lack of backward compatibility (if it's true) is to save cost so they can sell it for cheaper than $600. With the PS3 they ended up just taking it out and pissing people off because they needed to do something to lower the price since people were complaining about the price.