Ah, I didn't realize you had SEVERAL anecdotal examples. In that case, lbmouse is clearly wrong and you are right.
Let me try to explain things as the WW2 paratrooper tried to explain things to me when I was young. My recollection is something like:
"Everyone in the military is taught to use a weapon and to dig a hole in basic training. Because when things severely deviate from the plan anyone can be handed a weapon and ordered to fight. The TV commercials promising an education in something useful like electronics only tell half the story. Sure, they may teach you electronics and give you such a job, but first they will teach you to fire a rifle too in case the things go bad. If you are not willing to accept the possibility of ground combat learn electronics somewhere else."
The story of the truck driver sharing his frozen hole at Bastogne followed.
So no, its not my anecdote that makes lbmouse clearly wrong. Its that the military teaches everyone to use a rifle that makes lbmouse clearly wrong. It is the policy and practice of the military, even in a time of peace, that a non-fighting job does not relieve a person from the expectation of possibly having to fight, possibly having to live in austere conditions without proper support.
Did the statement responded to mention gender? No. The statement responded to implied not everyone has to fight or live in austere conditions possibly without proper support. Reality shows that yes, everyone in the military may have to.
The large majority of jobs in the U.S. armed forces are not fighting or even physical roles.
A great-uncle, a WW2 paratrooper, shared his frozen hole in the ground on the font lines of Bastogne with a truck driver who had not fired a weapon since basic training.
Another great-uncle, brother of the previous, was a clerk aboard a Navy destroyer in the Pacific during WW2. His primary job involving logs, ledgers and typewriters but during combat these were put aside and his secondary job came into play, anti-aircraft gun crew member. His tertiary job was Browning Automatic Rifleman (he did well in Basic Training on the rifle range) in the event of guarding prisoners, repelling boarders, or shore party. "Shore party" in this context being when the Navy is a bit short of Marines at a particular place and time and tells Sailors to pick up a rifle and engage in ground combat. Sort of like the previously mentioned Army truck driver. His tertiary job only came into play in the context of covering crew members as they were fishing enemy sailors/pilots out of the sea. Some of these tried to pull a gun or knife to take one last American with them.
A high school teacher was an electronics technician in the Marine Corp and served in Vietnam. One day he was sitting at his workbench at a comfy base in the rear and his lieutenant appears and tells him that a Marine Force Recon team was taking him behind enemy lines to the Ho Chi Minh Trail in order to install sensors that would detect the movement of enemy reinforcements and supplies on that trail.
In recent wars is there any shortage of stories of troops in non-fighting roles finding themselves in a firefight while driving from point A to point B?
Hard to take time off work to get an education if you're supporting yourself and others.
You are moving the goal post from expense to time. Vocational probably wins on time too compared to a traditional university program. Vocational programs are not necessarily 2-year associate degrees with general ed and all that. They may be vocation focused certificate based programs.
Education is only for the few who are blessed with rich parents.
Everyone else gets the "basic" education which barely qualifies them for a minimum wage job.
Clue: Education includes vocational.
Clue 2: Education is not expensive at community colleges, and community colleges usually offer vocational training.
"Google, never one to compete in a market with a single product, is apparently hard at work on a third operating system after Android and Chrome OS. This one is an open source, real-time OS called "Fuchsia."... Unlike Android and Chrome OS, Fuchsia is not based on Linux—it uses a new, Google-developed microkernel called "Magenta." With Fuchsia, Google would not only be dumping the Linux kernel, but also the GPL: the OS is licensed under a mix of BSD 3 clause, MIT, and Apache 2.0." https://arstechnica.com/gadget...
"Unlike Android and Chrome OS, Fuchsia is not based on Linux—it uses a new, Google-developed microkernel called "Magenta." With Fuchsia, Google would not only be dumping the Linux kernel, but also the GPL: the OS is licensed under a mix of BSD 3 clause, MIT, and Apache 2.0." https://arstechnica.com/gadget...
Seriously? Is there anything else they are preparing for that has already come and gone?
There was a telephone tax that was to pay for the Spanish American War of 1898. I think it was paid off a decade or two ago, I'm not sure if the tax was removed.
Not even American... but I do remember something about him losing the popular vote.
The popular vote is trivia. No one was trying for it, both sides were fighting for the electoral. If the popular had been the goal both sides would have waged very different campaigns, spent time and money very differently, visited different towns, cities and states, etc. And thus the popular vote in such a scenario would be completely different than in the actual election.
Talking about the popular vote is like saying after losing a football match, well we controlled/moved the ball for more yards/meters. Sure, OK, but that wasn't the goal was it?
And his approval ratings have been in the sewer at all points in his leadership.
Just like Bill Clinton's about this time into his presidency, high 30s for both.
The reason we need the small business paperwork: Before this rule came into effect those businesses were owned by big pocketed donors. Some of which were the ones charging $50 for a $5 screwdriver.
Yeah, $5 for the screwdriver and $45 for the necessary government paperwork.
She's saying there are fewer people tinkering with desktop Linux these days so it is harder to find people to maintain and update their customized distribution. That the new generation of techies are much more interested in mobile than desktop.
Or is there a case of technical personnel ignoring user needs, for example exchanging files with people outside the organization or using offsite computers with only windows and office for a presentation, and not having formatting change?
I've been to meetings (US National Science Foundation) where the protocol for speakers was to submit their powerpoint file ahead of the meeting and select it on the windows box with msoffice at the podium when they go on stage.
Employment: They are investing in robots that disassemble old phones for recycling. That is a first step to robots that can assemble new phones. That can return factories to the US, increase jobs, increase tax revenues.
Robots that could assembly phones have been available for decades. You apparently are not aware of the level of automation that is already available. The reason Apple manufactures a lot of their stuff in China is because that is where the supply chain is located. It has nothing to do with a lack of sophisticated automation available in the US.
The supply chain follows the factories to a degree. Which is why even heavily robotic assembly would be a benefit to any host country.
No one said automation was lacking outside the US, that is you reading things that are not there. However automation is a mitigating factor making higher US labor costs less of an issue, making the US a more viable host for a largely automated plant.
And now back to distribution but on the finished product end, shipping would be simplified to the large US market. Something that offsets the shipping for those components that are asian sourced.
Healthcare: Apple has a healthcare engineering group that assists healthcare providers find technical solutions.
What the fuck does that mean? Could you come up with a more vague and content free sentence? You're talking about shit like Apple selling iPads to doctor's offices. Not exactly world changing stuff there and certainly not solving the important failures in our health care system.
No, I'm not talking about Apple selling an iPad to a doctor. I'm talking about a large healthcare provider having some new IT initiative and going to Apple for help and/or advice on how to specifically implement that initiative. Apple has a healthcare solutions team for assisting such large scale initiatives. So if the VA wants to modernize something system wide or implement some new technology assisted process, Apple has a team available to help. Its not a team that works with end users, its a team that works with large healthcare IT organizations.
If the median salary was under $50k, then I'm not sure who they were surveying, but it wasn't professional developers.
Those are global averages. Keep reading and you'll see the region specific charts and numbers. I think the averages for the US were around $100K and $80K.
Most of the respondents wouldn't have understand the question because they actually use whatever their IDE does.
I read some of the comments expecting amusement, I was not disappointed. One specifically thought spaces-favoring developers were using the space bar rather than the tab key.
What is the point of returning manufacturing to the US if its done by robots?
What's the point in saving the US auto industry if its manufacturing is heavily dependent upon robots?
Even in heavily robotic manufacturing and assembly there are jobs. Plus there is the entire issue of the money being spent in the US and having secondary economic effects and benefits. Plus there is parts and subsystem vendors located in the US being more viable, again see auto industry.
Employment: They are investing in robots that disassemble old phones for recycling. That is a first step to robots that can assemble new phones. That can return factories to the US, increase jobs, increase tax revenues.
Healthcare: Apple has a healthcare engineering group that assists healthcare providers find technical solutions.
Someone is going to get their liberal card revoked. Any sort of agreement or cooperation with Trump is not allowed, even in a rare instance where he might be correct about something, cause, you know,... uhhh... well... we didn't get our way in '16 and we won't stand for that?
Well, they're not exactly overwhelmed by the volume of work.
Congress is seriously overworked. You are thinking only of their secondary job, legislating. You are not thinking of their primary job, walking out of Congress and going to the nearby DNC and RNC private offices where they get on the phone and start dialing for donations. Members of Congress as essentially call center workers first, legislators second.
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Ah, I didn't realize you had SEVERAL anecdotal examples. In that case, lbmouse is clearly wrong and you are right.
Let me try to explain things as the WW2 paratrooper tried to explain things to me when I was young. My recollection is something like:
"Everyone in the military is taught to use a weapon and to dig a hole in basic training. Because when things severely deviate from the plan anyone can be handed a weapon and ordered to fight. The TV commercials promising an education in something useful like electronics only tell half the story. Sure, they may teach you electronics and give you such a job, but first they will teach you to fire a rifle too in case the things go bad. If you are not willing to accept the possibility of ground combat learn electronics somewhere else."
The story of the truck driver sharing his frozen hole at Bastogne followed.
So no, its not my anecdote that makes lbmouse clearly wrong. Its that the military teaches everyone to use a rifle that makes lbmouse clearly wrong. It is the policy and practice of the military, even in a time of peace, that a non-fighting job does not relieve a person from the expectation of possibly having to fight, possibly having to live in austere conditions without proper support.
Did the statement responded to mention gender? No. The statement responded to implied not everyone has to fight or live in austere conditions possibly without proper support. Reality shows that yes, everyone in the military may have to.
If their uncorrected vision is so bad they would be a liability I don't think they would be allowed to serve.
You would be incorrect in thinking so. I served with people who could not have read a card they were holding at arms length, without their glasses.
Could they still recognize friend from foe at close quarters? At ranges where a weapon may be "pointed", not "precisely aimed", in self defense?
The large majority of jobs in the U.S. armed forces are not fighting or even physical roles.
A great-uncle, a WW2 paratrooper, shared his frozen hole in the ground on the font lines of Bastogne with a truck driver who had not fired a weapon since basic training.
Another great-uncle, brother of the previous, was a clerk aboard a Navy destroyer in the Pacific during WW2. His primary job involving logs, ledgers and typewriters but during combat these were put aside and his secondary job came into play, anti-aircraft gun crew member. His tertiary job was Browning Automatic Rifleman (he did well in Basic Training on the rifle range) in the event of guarding prisoners, repelling boarders, or shore party. "Shore party" in this context being when the Navy is a bit short of Marines at a particular place and time and tells Sailors to pick up a rifle and engage in ground combat. Sort of like the previously mentioned Army truck driver. His tertiary job only came into play in the context of covering crew members as they were fishing enemy sailors/pilots out of the sea. Some of these tried to pull a gun or knife to take one last American with them.
A high school teacher was an electronics technician in the Marine Corp and served in Vietnam. One day he was sitting at his workbench at a comfy base in the rear and his lieutenant appears and tells him that a Marine Force Recon team was taking him behind enemy lines to the Ho Chi Minh Trail in order to install sensors that would detect the movement of enemy reinforcements and supplies on that trail.
In recent wars is there any shortage of stories of troops in non-fighting roles finding themselves in a firefight while driving from point A to point B?
I've seen soldiers wearing glasses on TV. What happens if their glasses get broken and they don't have access to another pair?
If their uncorrected vision is so bad they would be a liability I don't think they would be allowed to serve.
Why did Google report the searches to the SEC? Did he short their stock or something? ;-)
Hard to take time off work to get an education if you're supporting yourself and others.
You are moving the goal post from expense to time. Vocational probably wins on time too compared to a traditional university program. Vocational programs are not necessarily 2-year associate degrees with general ed and all that. They may be vocation focused certificate based programs.
Education is only for the few who are blessed with rich parents. Everyone else gets the "basic" education which barely qualifies them for a minimum wage job.
Clue: Education includes vocational.
Clue 2: Education is not expensive at community colleges, and community colleges usually offer vocational training.
"Google, never one to compete in a market with a single product, is apparently hard at work on a third operating system after Android and Chrome OS. This one is an open source, real-time OS called "Fuchsia." ... Unlike Android and Chrome OS, Fuchsia is not based on Linux—it uses a new, Google-developed microkernel called "Magenta." With Fuchsia, Google would not only be dumping the Linux kernel, but also the GPL: the OS is licensed under a mix of BSD 3 clause, MIT, and Apache 2.0."
https://arstechnica.com/gadget...
"Unlike Android and Chrome OS, Fuchsia is not based on Linux—it uses a new, Google-developed microkernel called "Magenta." With Fuchsia, Google would not only be dumping the Linux kernel, but also the GPL: the OS is licensed under a mix of BSD 3 clause, MIT, and Apache 2.0."
https://arstechnica.com/gadget...
Seriously? Is there anything else they are preparing for that has already come and gone?
There was a telephone tax that was to pay for the Spanish American War of 1898. I think it was paid off a decade or two ago, I'm not sure if the tax was removed.
Not even American... but I do remember something about him losing the popular vote.
The popular vote is trivia. No one was trying for it, both sides were fighting for the electoral. If the popular had been the goal both sides would have waged very different campaigns, spent time and money very differently, visited different towns, cities and states, etc. And thus the popular vote in such a scenario would be completely different than in the actual election.
Talking about the popular vote is like saying after losing a football match, well we controlled/moved the ball for more yards/meters. Sure, OK, but that wasn't the goal was it?
And his approval ratings have been in the sewer at all points in his leadership.
Just like Bill Clinton's about this time into his presidency, high 30s for both.
The reason we need the small business paperwork: Before this rule came into effect those businesses were owned by big pocketed donors. Some of which were the ones charging $50 for a $5 screwdriver.
Yeah, $5 for the screwdriver and $45 for the necessary government paperwork.
I suppose Android's been fixed.
Yes, but a super majority of users won't be able to get the patch.
She's saying there are fewer people tinkering with desktop Linux these days so it is harder to find people to maintain and update their customized distribution. That the new generation of techies are much more interested in mobile than desktop.
Or is there a case of technical personnel ignoring user needs, for example exchanging files with people outside the organization or using offsite computers with only windows and office for a presentation, and not having formatting change?
I've been to meetings (US National Science Foundation) where the protocol for speakers was to submit their powerpoint file ahead of the meeting and select it on the windows box with msoffice at the podium when they go on stage.
Employment: They are investing in robots that disassemble old phones for recycling. That is a first step to robots that can assemble new phones. That can return factories to the US, increase jobs, increase tax revenues.
Robots that could assembly phones have been available for decades. You apparently are not aware of the level of automation that is already available. The reason Apple manufactures a lot of their stuff in China is because that is where the supply chain is located. It has nothing to do with a lack of sophisticated automation available in the US.
The supply chain follows the factories to a degree. Which is why even heavily robotic assembly would be a benefit to any host country.
No one said automation was lacking outside the US, that is you reading things that are not there. However automation is a mitigating factor making higher US labor costs less of an issue, making the US a more viable host for a largely automated plant.
And now back to distribution but on the finished product end, shipping would be simplified to the large US market. Something that offsets the shipping for those components that are asian sourced.
Healthcare: Apple has a healthcare engineering group that assists healthcare providers find technical solutions.
What the fuck does that mean? Could you come up with a more vague and content free sentence? You're talking about shit like Apple selling iPads to doctor's offices. Not exactly world changing stuff there and certainly not solving the important failures in our health care system.
No, I'm not talking about Apple selling an iPad to a doctor. I'm talking about a large healthcare provider having some new IT initiative and going to Apple for help and/or advice on how to specifically implement that initiative. Apple has a healthcare solutions team for assisting such large scale initiatives. So if the VA wants to modernize something system wide or implement some new technology assisted process, Apple has a team available to help. Its not a team that works with end users, its a team that works with large healthcare IT organizations.
If the median salary was under $50k, then I'm not sure who they were surveying, but it wasn't professional developers.
Those are global averages. Keep reading and you'll see the region specific charts and numbers. I think the averages for the US were around $100K and $80K.
Damn, that's starting wages for someone right out of school! Maybe I should stop using tabs AND spaces.
Those are global averages. Keep reading and you'll see the region specific charts and numbers.
Most of the respondents wouldn't have understand the question because they actually use whatever their IDE does.
I read some of the comments expecting amusement, I was not disappointed. One specifically thought spaces-favoring developers were using the space bar rather than the tab key.
What is the point of returning manufacturing to the US if its done by robots?
What's the point in saving the US auto industry if its manufacturing is heavily dependent upon robots?
Even in heavily robotic manufacturing and assembly there are jobs. Plus there is the entire issue of the money being spent in the US and having secondary economic effects and benefits. Plus there is parts and subsystem vendors located in the US being more viable, again see auto industry.
Pied Piper proves it too, that tab loving company is one money losing screwup after another.
Employment: They are investing in robots that disassemble old phones for recycling. That is a first step to robots that can assemble new phones. That can return factories to the US, increase jobs, increase tax revenues.
Healthcare: Apple has a healthcare engineering group that assists healthcare providers find technical solutions.
Someone is going to get their liberal card revoked. Any sort of agreement or cooperation with Trump is not allowed, even in a rare instance where he might be correct about something, cause, you know, ... uhhh ... well ... we didn't get our way in '16 and we won't stand for that?
Well, they're not exactly overwhelmed by the volume of work.
Congress is seriously overworked. You are thinking only of their secondary job, legislating. You are not thinking of their primary job, walking out of Congress and going to the nearby DNC and RNC private offices where they get on the phone and start dialing for donations. Members of Congress as essentially call center workers first, legislators second.