There was a 2 and 3? Non sense. Why not sequels of Starship Troopers while you are at it!
If ever there was a movie needing re-imaging... Starship Troopers. I take that back, moving closer to the book (power suits) is not quite re-imagining is it?
She originally claimed that using the personal server for work was so she would only need to carry one device.
No, she originally claimed that she used her personal phone for official work so that she'd only have to carry one device
It was all about the email, hence the server.
"“First, when I got to work as Secretary of State, I opted for convenience to use my personal email account, which was allowed by the State Department, because I thought it would be easier to carry just one device for my work and for my personal emails instead of two. -- Hillary Clinton, news conference addressing her private email server, March 10, 2015” https://www.washingtonpost.com...
If you are an Android developer you aren't going to be interested in the latest Android version. Or the previous one. You are going to be interested in the most popular. You can asume that newer versions will be supported by your app. It might not get advantage of the newest features but, then, only a small margin of your users will have access to the newest version of Android so it shouldn't be a problem.
Actually you can not assume an existing app will work on a newer version of Android. I've seen newer versions of Android intentionally break existing apps when the powers that be decide developers should no longer be allowed to do something. Plus you can have conditional executed code that lets you use newer OS functionality when your app finds itself running on a newer Android version. Simulators can help but you do really need to have some actual hardware for testing.
Reviewers and other influencers are more likely to have a current version so recommendations can suffer if you don't properly support a current version.
I'm hoping for a team of EE, CS and ME students who want to take something from idea to reality so that they have something on their CV beyond attending required classes. For such projects showing that you can take an idea and build something that works, in a cross discipline team environment, is more important than that thing being useful.
People are free to waste their time in any way they want, what I don't understand is why anyone would donate to kickstarter to fund this stupidity.
To be clear, such a student based effort would not be a waste of time. Showing that you started a project and finished a project and created something that worked is a great supplement to a degree. What the thing is is far less important than you finished what you started.
See https://news.slashdot.org/stor...
for discussions on this theme.
But yeah, others wanting the device is puzzling. Might be people think this can somehow forward the idea of more open android hardware.
There are quite a lot of people that own both an iPhone and an Android device. This would cater to those who would want to use two devices but only carry one cellphone.
Hillary, she prefers to carry only one device. This one would let her keep her personal and professional calls/emails/texts separate.;-)
This is pure stupidity. If you want to use an iPhone, use an iPhone. If you want to use an Android device, use that.
Well its sort of convenient for developers who want to target both platforms;-)
In the days of $350 Nexus devices I wouldn't think about it at all. Now in the days of $650 Pixel devices I might briefly think about it.
A lot of people in tech have entirely too much time on their hands.
I'm hoping for a team of EE, CS and ME students who want to take something from idea to reality so that they have something on their CV beyond attending required classes. For such projects showing that you can take an idea and build something that works, in a cross discipline team environment, is more important than that thing being useful.
The unionized bus driver is going to be replaced by software, self-driving buses.
Regarding "train your replacements" thing. Its not your last paycheck, its that severance package that you will not be eligible for. Plus people don't want to burn bridges so they can get a reference.
That contractors work with US intelligence is not a surprise either, again the Snowden story. With proper security clearances and contracts signed it is most likely perfectly legal for these contractors to have access to these tools, or to be the ones who actually developed these tools for the government.
And overly broad access to data and/or tools, again nothing new as Manley and Snowden demonstrate.
Are you really so naive as to think they're only using these tools against non-Americans?
Having hacking tools and using these tools against Americans are two very different things. The former is what was leaked and its exactly the sort of tools the CIA is expect to have in order to perform its mission. If and when the later is shown the public will show greater interest, as they did with the 2013 revelations.
And if you want to get a job at Google, then sure, do the side work. By why should someone have to do it to get any reasonable job? Isn't the point that appropriately motivated people not finding jobs is an issue?
Because someone who did the "side work" will also apply to that small local company that you are applying to. Also keep in mind that this "side work" is sometimes self study motivated by interest and/or curiosity. When someone enjoys their field of study their class assignments may not be satisfying enough, a person may wish to put their newly acquired skills to greater practice.
In my field, software development, one's skills generally come from three areas: (1) Formal training. (2) Informal "lessons" from peers. (3) Self study, independent study. This was true during college and in the workplace. Of the best programmers that I know none neglected any of these, especially in their "college years".
This recent "leak" concerns expected activity, and legal activity, the CIA possessing the technical means to gather intelligence. The 2003 leak concerned domestic surveillance by agencies prohibited from performing domestic surveillance. In short, the public expects the CIA to be able to break into an iPhone.
Sorry, that's a load. Employers are not interested in your side projects.
Mine were. And as someone doing the hiring I was interested.
In fact they are fearful of them because it means you're smarter or may have other priorities. God forbid you do anything with the 8 hours you don't spend working or sleeping other than staring at a wall.
Side projects don't have to be some long term ongoing effort, and they don't have to continue once hired. That said, a coworker had such an ongoing project. The company provided him with a waiver to the normal employment agreement allowing him to support the project at a bug fix level but not at a add major new functionality level.
The whole github thing is a meme. What they want is free code out there for H1Bs to steal and pass off as their own. Yes, I've seen that lots of times. I won't participate in that farce. You want to see a side project, I'll bring an executable on a CD-R.
If you are suggesting leaving the CD-R I wouldn't even go that far, nor require that. I'd sit down for an hour or two and go through the source code with reviewer/applicant side-by-side, reviewing and discussing it. The source code leaves with the applicant.
I think the valid argument is, why complete a degree if it doesn't help you stand out? If you should have to do internships and open source projects to stand out, why pay $100,000 and waste 4+ years for a degree.
Because that side work is not a replacement for the formal education, it complements, supplements the formal education. Completing a degree represents the beginning of one's learning, not the completion of it. Side projects can demonstrate one has moved a little farther along in that learning process.
There simply aren't enough coop positions for everyone who wants one, so it will always be the case that the majority of grads have no coop experience.
Coop jobs are only one of many options. There are also personal projects in one's area of study, there are student entrepreneurial competitions, etc.
And companies couldn't give a hoot about open source or side projects, they only care about paid experience in a commercial environment, I highly doubt putting some unpaid open source work on his resume would've helped in his job search.
You were misinformed. What matters is that a person had an idea and finished their little project. Demonstrating some interest or curiosity about their chosen field and the ability to complete what they start are important consideration, not necessarily the commercial nature of the project nor its similarity to the company products/services. Plus there is the demonstration of knowledge beyond assigned classwork.
Completing a degree represents the beginning of one's learning, not the completion of it. Side projects can demonstrate one has moved a little farther along in that learning process.
Haha what a joke. Just what the world needs, another half assed text editor or a library that needs a dozen other obscure libraries to build.
It doesn't matter if the project is used or useful. What matters is that a person had an idea and finished their little project. Demonstrating some interest or curiosity about their chosen field and the ability to complete what they start are important consideration, not necessarily what the project does.
One could just as easily interpret that as the difference between the guy who had such focus on his degree that he did not have any other activities - and is likely to give the same devotion to a job.
People who have a genuine interest in their field of study often do something beyond classwork. Classwork can be unfulfilling. New things learned in class resulting in an eagerness to try them out on something.
Or the guy who came from poverty and held down two minimum wage jobs while studying just to survive, so he simply could not in any practical way have also had the energy, money and other resources required to join clubs and do internships. His pass is, in fact, a significantly greater achievement than the guy who did internships and got a cum laude and never once in his entire life HAD to eat Ramen noodles because he couldn't afford anything better.
Many employers actually consider such situations. For example those with minimum GPA policies waiving that requirement for someone who worked while attending school. Working while in school, even outside of their field of study, is a CV enhancing thing.
People who put more into their education than merely showing up for the required classes have always had an advantage.
Indeed. The guy in TFA did zero internships, participated in zero open source projects, zero side projects, and has done nothing to make himself stand out. Now he is pissed because it is "society's fault" that he isn't handed a job on a silver platter.
TFA states that the guy is a mechanical engineer. What kind of open source side projects are you suggesting he should have participated in? And as for his side projects, what kind of serious engineering organizations outside of this industry care?
3D printing provides many opportunities for open design side projects.
Those engineers in industry don't necessarily care about side projects because they are related to the company projects. If they are great, but if they are not they still demonstrate that a person had the ability to take an idea, start a project, and finish the project. Plus it may indicate the person has some inherent interest and curiosity about their course of study, another good sign.
Consumers get less choice in the matter than you think. The supermarkets aren't exactly rushing to stock the more expensive locally made goods - and if they don't stock it, consumers cannot choose it.
Actually in recent years supermarkets are doing so to differentiate themselves from the competition and consumers have reacted favorable to these efforts.
However more importantly for STEM folks is that their efforts are not limited to the supermarket. And with the online shopping trend it has become much easier to find locally or at least domestically produced goods.
Yeah, after 48 hours of coursework*, go to work for someone else at 20-40 hours a week and hope someone hires you at a rate that you can pay off your student loans later. I wonder why students in difficult programs don't want to work 80 hours a week in hopes that someday someone might recognize their hard work.
*standard is 12 credit hours for full-time. One hour in class, three out of class per week per credit hour. Many do more than 48 a week in STEM.
I did 12-16 units in STEM while working 20-30 hours a week, plus full-time during breaks and summer. Note that such work reduces the amount of your student loans.
Personally I was able to find a good part-time coding job. Guess how I got that, by the personal projects I had done on my own, not from merely being a CS major. Then again, I was a CS major because I had an inherent interest in coding, not because someone told me it was a good career path. So these personal projects were me having fun, not some tasks merely done to enhance the CV.
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There was a 2 and 3? Non sense. Why not sequels of Starship Troopers while you are at it!
If ever there was a movie needing re-imaging ... Starship Troopers. I take that back, moving closer to the book (power suits) is not quite re-imagining is it?
They'll screw it up as they did with Point Break
She originally claimed that using the personal server for work was so she would only need to carry one device.
No, she originally claimed that she used her personal phone for official work so that she'd only have to carry one device
It was all about the email, hence the server.
"“First, when I got to work as Secretary of State, I opted for convenience to use my personal email account, which was allowed by the State Department, because I thought it would be easier to carry just one device for my work and for my personal emails instead of two. -- Hillary Clinton, news conference addressing her private email server, March 10, 2015”
https://www.washingtonpost.com...
If you are an Android developer you aren't going to be interested in the latest Android version. Or the previous one. You are going to be interested in the most popular. You can asume that newer versions will be supported by your app. It might not get advantage of the newest features but, then, only a small margin of your users will have access to the newest version of Android so it shouldn't be a problem.
Actually you can not assume an existing app will work on a newer version of Android. I've seen newer versions of Android intentionally break existing apps when the powers that be decide developers should no longer be allowed to do something. Plus you can have conditional executed code that lets you use newer OS functionality when your app finds itself running on a newer Android version. Simulators can help but you do really need to have some actual hardware for testing.
Reviewers and other influencers are more likely to have a current version so recommendations can suffer if you don't properly support a current version.
Start a kickstarter campaign, if a full android device for an iPhone can get funded ... :-)
I'm hoping for a team of EE, CS and ME students who want to take something from idea to reality so that they have something on their CV beyond attending required classes. For such projects showing that you can take an idea and build something that works, in a cross discipline team environment, is more important than that thing being useful.
People are free to waste their time in any way they want, what I don't understand is why anyone would donate to kickstarter to fund this stupidity.
To be clear, such a student based effort would not be a waste of time. Showing that you started a project and finished a project and created something that worked is a great supplement to a degree. What the thing is is far less important than you finished what you started.
See
https://news.slashdot.org/stor...
for discussions on this theme.
But yeah, others wanting the device is puzzling. Might be people think this can somehow forward the idea of more open android hardware.
She originally claimed that using the personal server for work was so she would only need to carry one device.
In the days of $350 Nexus devices I wouldn't think about it at all. Now in the days of $650 Pixel devices I might briefly think about it.
You realize there are tons of good sub-$200 phones now, right?
I was kind of hoping for a modern version of Android and a few years of upgrades/updates.
Eh.
There are quite a lot of people that own both an iPhone and an Android device. This would cater to those who would want to use two devices but only carry one cellphone.
Hillary, she prefers to carry only one device. This one would let her keep her personal and professional calls/emails/texts separate. ;-)
This is pure stupidity. If you want to use an iPhone, use an iPhone. If you want to use an Android device, use that.
Well its sort of convenient for developers who want to target both platforms ;-)
In the days of $350 Nexus devices I wouldn't think about it at all. Now in the days of $650 Pixel devices I might briefly think about it.
A lot of people in tech have entirely too much time on their hands.
I'm hoping for a team of EE, CS and ME students who want to take something from idea to reality so that they have something on their CV beyond attending required classes. For such projects showing that you can take an idea and build something that works, in a cross discipline team environment, is more important than that thing being useful.
Android pretending to be iphone
I think phones like that have been available in China for years. ;-)
The unionized bus driver is going to be replaced by software, self-driving buses.
Regarding "train your replacements" thing. Its not your last paycheck, its that severance package that you will not be eligible for. Plus people don't want to burn bridges so they can get a reference.
That contractors work with US intelligence is not a surprise either, again the Snowden story. With proper security clearances and contracts signed it is most likely perfectly legal for these contractors to have access to these tools, or to be the ones who actually developed these tools for the government.
And overly broad access to data and/or tools, again nothing new as Manley and Snowden demonstrate.
Are you really so naive as to think they're only using these tools against non-Americans?
Having hacking tools and using these tools against Americans are two very different things. The former is what was leaked and its exactly the sort of tools the CIA is expect to have in order to perform its mission. If and when the later is shown the public will show greater interest, as they did with the 2013 revelations.
And if you want to get a job at Google, then sure, do the side work. By why should someone have to do it to get any reasonable job? Isn't the point that appropriately motivated people not finding jobs is an issue?
Because someone who did the "side work" will also apply to that small local company that you are applying to. Also keep in mind that this "side work" is sometimes self study motivated by interest and/or curiosity. When someone enjoys their field of study their class assignments may not be satisfying enough, a person may wish to put their newly acquired skills to greater practice.
In my field, software development, one's skills generally come from three areas: (1) Formal training. (2) Informal "lessons" from peers. (3) Self study, independent study. This was true during college and in the workplace. Of the best programmers that I know none neglected any of these, especially in their "college years".
This recent "leak" concerns expected activity, and legal activity, the CIA possessing the technical means to gather intelligence. The 2003 leak concerned domestic surveillance by agencies prohibited from performing domestic surveillance. In short, the public expects the CIA to be able to break into an iPhone.
Sorry, that's a load. Employers are not interested in your side projects.
Mine were. And as someone doing the hiring I was interested.
In fact they are fearful of them because it means you're smarter or may have other priorities. God forbid you do anything with the 8 hours you don't spend working or sleeping other than staring at a wall.
Side projects don't have to be some long term ongoing effort, and they don't have to continue once hired. That said, a coworker had such an ongoing project. The company provided him with a waiver to the normal employment agreement allowing him to support the project at a bug fix level but not at a add major new functionality level.
The whole github thing is a meme. What they want is free code out there for H1Bs to steal and pass off as their own. Yes, I've seen that lots of times. I won't participate in that farce. You want to see a side project, I'll bring an executable on a CD-R.
If you are suggesting leaving the CD-R I wouldn't even go that far, nor require that. I'd sit down for an hour or two and go through the source code with reviewer/applicant side-by-side, reviewing and discussing it. The source code leaves with the applicant.
I think the valid argument is, why complete a degree if it doesn't help you stand out? If you should have to do internships and open source projects to stand out, why pay $100,000 and waste 4+ years for a degree.
Because that side work is not a replacement for the formal education, it complements, supplements the formal education. Completing a degree represents the beginning of one's learning, not the completion of it. Side projects can demonstrate one has moved a little farther along in that learning process.
There simply aren't enough coop positions for everyone who wants one, so it will always be the case that the majority of grads have no coop experience.
Coop jobs are only one of many options. There are also personal projects in one's area of study, there are student entrepreneurial competitions, etc.
And companies couldn't give a hoot about open source or side projects, they only care about paid experience in a commercial environment, I highly doubt putting some unpaid open source work on his resume would've helped in his job search.
You were misinformed. What matters is that a person had an idea and finished their little project. Demonstrating some interest or curiosity about their chosen field and the ability to complete what they start are important consideration, not necessarily the commercial nature of the project nor its similarity to the company products/services. Plus there is the demonstration of knowledge beyond assigned classwork.
Completing a degree represents the beginning of one's learning, not the completion of it. Side projects can demonstrate one has moved a little farther along in that learning process.
Haha what a joke. Just what the world needs, another half assed text editor or a library that needs a dozen other obscure libraries to build.
It doesn't matter if the project is used or useful. What matters is that a person had an idea and finished their little project. Demonstrating some interest or curiosity about their chosen field and the ability to complete what they start are important consideration, not necessarily what the project does.
One could just as easily interpret that as the difference between the guy who had such focus on his degree that he did not have any other activities - and is likely to give the same devotion to a job.
People who have a genuine interest in their field of study often do something beyond classwork. Classwork can be unfulfilling. New things learned in class resulting in an eagerness to try them out on something.
Or the guy who came from poverty and held down two minimum wage jobs while studying just to survive, so he simply could not in any practical way have also had the energy, money and other resources required to join clubs and do internships. His pass is, in fact, a significantly greater achievement than the guy who did internships and got a cum laude and never once in his entire life HAD to eat Ramen noodles because he couldn't afford anything better.
Many employers actually consider such situations. For example those with minimum GPA policies waiving that requirement for someone who worked while attending school. Working while in school, even outside of their field of study, is a CV enhancing thing.
People who put more into their education than merely showing up for the required classes have always had an advantage.
Indeed. The guy in TFA did zero internships, participated in zero open source projects, zero side projects, and has done nothing to make himself stand out. Now he is pissed because it is "society's fault" that he isn't handed a job on a silver platter.
TFA states that the guy is a mechanical engineer. What kind of open source side projects are you suggesting he should have participated in? And as for his side projects, what kind of serious engineering organizations outside of this industry care?
3D printing provides many opportunities for open design side projects.
Those engineers in industry don't necessarily care about side projects because they are related to the company projects. If they are great, but if they are not they still demonstrate that a person had the ability to take an idea, start a project, and finish the project. Plus it may indicate the person has some inherent interest and curiosity about their course of study, another good sign.
Open source project for a Mechanical Engineer? Wow RTFA.
Yes, 3d printing, open designs.
Consumers get less choice in the matter than you think. The supermarkets aren't exactly rushing to stock the more expensive locally made goods - and if they don't stock it, consumers cannot choose it.
Actually in recent years supermarkets are doing so to differentiate themselves from the competition and consumers have reacted favorable to these efforts.
However more importantly for STEM folks is that their efforts are not limited to the supermarket. And with the online shopping trend it has become much easier to find locally or at least domestically produced goods.
Yeah, after 48 hours of coursework*, go to work for someone else at 20-40 hours a week and hope someone hires you at a rate that you can pay off your student loans later. I wonder why students in difficult programs don't want to work 80 hours a week in hopes that someday someone might recognize their hard work.
*standard is 12 credit hours for full-time. One hour in class, three out of class per week per credit hour. Many do more than 48 a week in STEM.
I did 12-16 units in STEM while working 20-30 hours a week, plus full-time during breaks and summer. Note that such work reduces the amount of your student loans.
Personally I was able to find a good part-time coding job. Guess how I got that, by the personal projects I had done on my own, not from merely being a CS major. Then again, I was a CS major because I had an inherent interest in coding, not because someone told me it was a good career path. So these personal projects were me having fun, not some tasks merely done to enhance the CV.