He is gonna end up buried in 37k of debt without even a piece of paper, damned shame is what it is, poor kid worked his ass off and got screwed..
How did that happen? The average for 4 year public schools is $13,600 a year. A part time job and a summer job could put a pretty huge dent in $13,600 a year. Note this figure includes room and board.
The only problem with your argument is that the head of the IRS at the time was a Bush appointee, not an Obama one.
The only problem with your argument is that the abuse was not initiated by the head of the IRS, rather it was initiated by lower level staff. Want to bet on what those staff members political affiliations are? What their opinion on tax reform is (simpler rules, smaller irs, etc)? Government employee union reform? Which candidate they supported?
Likewise, a conventional looking rifle with detachable magazines in "military" calibers is NOT considered an "assault weapon".
No. To some politicians they are. And since the definition of "assault weapon" is a political definition, they are. Look at California, there is currently a bill that bans all semi autos with detachable magazines.
Switzerland where that are over a million of what in the US would be considered "assault weapons" in private hands according to wiki
Ummm, no.
Those rifles in Switzerland you're thinking of are NOT "assault weapons". They are selective-fire Assault Rifles.
In other words, REAL military weapons, rather than something that looks like a military weapon but shoots like a hunting rifle....
No. According to wiki the 1+ million includes assault rifles, plus former assault rifles that have been de-militarized and are semi auto only, plus what in the US would be called "assault weapons", plus the conventional looking but functionally identical semi autos with detachable magazines in "military" calibers.
The real assault rifles only number in the 200,000 to 300,000 range IIRC and they are still government property. One may not be as free to take them to the range for informal practice and other sporting activities as one would be able to do with the others mentioned.
Firearms related deaths is a bit of a red herring, misdirection. It includes suicides and justifiable self defense. It also fails to consider that criminals merely use different lethal weapons. Hence the need for police in the UK to weak stab proof vests. Things are far more complicated than you suggest.
Plus one could just as easily cherry pick a different comparison. Switzerland where that are over a million of what in the US would be considered "assault weapons" in private hands according to wiki, and there is no threat to society. What is different between the US and Switzerland? The Swiss have proper background checks, proper safety training and proper storage. Its not mere availability of rifles that is the problem. It the deficiencies we have in the US related to background checks, safety training and storage according to you logic of comparing countries.
Its not that the assault weapon ban was not 100% effective, its that it was 0% effective. When a ban is based on purely cosmetic features then firearms that are 100% functionally identical, but lack the cosmetic feature, will be perfect replacements. There are legit hunting and sporting rifles that are 100% functionally identical replacements for firearms like the civilian AR-15.
We saw this happen in the California and Federal assault weapon bans of the 90s. Unless you ban all semiautomatic firearms with a detachable magazine the bans will not meet the stated goals of the proponents. They will merely be a placebo that makes some feel better, ignorance is bliss. And of course politicians will get a bunch of free press, which is why otherwise intelligent people vote for legislation they know will not work.
That said, I agree there should be no buying loopholes. Every sale should go through a dealer and a background check. Personally I would be in favor of a buyer having gone through safety instruction at some point before making their first purchase. Something like a hunter's safety course would go a long way to preventing accidents.
I particularly enjoy how you're mindlessly ignoring the quote where the designer mentioned all of the problems they had with NT prior to the problem.
Really? The wiki article where the quote is found begins with a disclaimer stating that Windows NT had no role in this particular failure.
It sounds like he was railroaded into NT, and then had to use subpar developers who don't realize numbers cannot be divided by 0 instead of developers who never would have architected it in that manner to begin with.
No. The production version of the software, which was available at the time, had safeguards that handled the zero and would have prevented the problem. They were running a special development version that let people hand tweak values and permit those values into the system.
The ships network supported a number of machines and applications, including "monitoring condition assessment, damage control, machinery control and fuel control, monitoring the engines and navigating the ship". The divide by zero error brought all the connected "machines" down. Not applications, "machines".
No. LAN terminals crashed, that is it. The software that failed was *application* level software, not operating system level, not driver level. The *application* level software running on these terminals controlled ship's machinery.
In the infamous USS Yorktown incident, the entire network was taken down. Blue screen or not, that just should never happen.
Your own citation says otherwise. Devices connected to the network went down, not the network itself. In other words the devices that received the erroneous zero over the network had their application software crash. Unfortunately these applications controlled the engine. Windows NT, Linux, Mac OS X or RTOS would not have made a difference. It was the application controlling the equipment and it was the application that failed.
Fixed? You call running your propulsion control and maneuvering systems on windows nt fixed? This is simply laughable. Such systems should only be run on a completely independent tactical network and run only on bulletproof RTOS's.
While I prefer a more traditional embedded environment with a RTOS, blaming the problem on Windows NT is perpetuating an urban myth. The divide by zero was in an application not the operating system. If this application had been running under Linux or Mac OS X or a RTOS it would not have mattered, the problem was internal to the application. Well at least according the the developers of the software and the Navy officers and chiefs on board the ship at the time.
The police weren't there to break up a protest. They were there to remove campers. Just because you are a student you don't have the right to pitch a tent anywhere you wish on campus and have a sleepover with friends. Its the campers that refused to cooperate who were originally taken into custody, not people simply protesting on campus. Things spiraled from there.
Whether they intended to do so or not, those blocking effectively assisted those chanting "if you let them go we will let you leave". And those blocking were repeatedly warned and what was about to happen was explained. Its on the video.
Your video conveniently omits events prior to the pepper spraying. A large group of students marching to the spot where those in custody are being detained. Chant of "If you let them go, we will let you leave".
The movie you offer is the 1 minute fragment that distorts what occurred. Here is a 15 minute video that gives a much better perspective on what happens. A large group of students decided to march on the spot where those in custody were being detained. Note the group chant of "If you let them go, we will let you leave".
The individuals on the path weren't the source of danger. The larger crowd around chanting for the people in custody to be released were the danger. The people on the path sillily decided to block the exit.
Actually if you have watched the full video, the only officers that were surrounded were the ones that literally stepped over the group into the middle. also he was on the outside of the ring of protesters. note they were blocking a path that was about 20 feet wide in an OPEN park. the only reason they used the pepper spray was to "soften them up" before hauling them off.
You conveniently ignore those detained and those officers maintaining custody of the detained. These officers and the detained can not step over the protesters.
Your own link states that students *surounded* the police and *demanded* that those in custody be released. It further states that police ordered people to move and these people *refused*. What I recall from the full videos of the incident is that the police then pepper sprayed those people who refused to move and were *blocking* the path that the police wanted to use to exit the area.
This was *not* police simply walking up to protesters and pepper spraying them. These were people blocking an exit route as police were surrounded.
"Its pretty easy to demonstrate they are independent of one another."
Say what? A single anecdote...
You just don't get the context do you? Since 1901 there have been 163 Nobel Laureates in chemistry. In a few minutes of googling I was able to find **4** that were active participants in chemical warfare, active as in personally on the battlefield.
Its not simply a single anecdote. Its at a minimum about 2.5% of Nobel Laureates, the elite amongst science. And its only about 2.5% because I only spent a few minutes googling, I have not looked at the other 159 Laureates at all.
Get over it. With a few minutes of research it was trivially shown that scientific literacy and critical thinking (wrt ethics) are independent of one another.
"Its pretty easy to demonstrate they are independent of one another."
Um, sorry to have to tell you this, but individual instances "demonstrate" exactly nothing.
Except when proving an overly broad statement to be false.
Maybe you need to work on your critical thinking skills?
While studying such things I seem to recall being told that the person resorting to ad hominem attacks just identified themselves as the loser of the argument.
Just because the crew isn't properly trained is no excuse for the officers not seeing to it that things are properly ship-shape!
If a crew member is not properly trained it is the officer's responsibility to quickly remedy that. It doesn't matter if the crew member is paid or a volunteer. You go to sea, you learn to do your job properly, period.
Sawdust and wood chips littered the floor... Thank God that the Navy has those knuckle dragging Deck Apes to ensure that Navy ships don't founder in the same way!
My uncle was a carpenter. I never saw sawdust or wood chips on his workshop floor unless he was in the middle of cutting or drilling.
Of course in his youth he was in the Navy, destroyers, WW2. When I asked what he did he said that they maintained the ship and its equipment, cleaned the ship and its equipment, and drilled for damage control and battle. He added that on occasion they were allowed to eat or sleep and that on very rare occasions they went into battle (Pacific, '42-'45, over a dozen battle stars).
He told me he learned to immediately take care of the smallest things when he was in the Navy. That the saying "Navy regs are written in blood" is true, that many regs are the way they are because someone died doing things differently. Given the unforgiving nature of the sea I'm surprised the professional civilian sailors (officers of the Bounty at least) did not understand that sloppiness can get you killed at sea.
"Scientific literacy is not equivalent to critical thinking."
I did not claim that they were equivalent. But it's pretty hard to argue that they aren't related.
Its pretty easy to demonstrate they are independent of one another. Fritz Haber, Nobel Prize in Chemistry, synthesizing ammonia. His advances in fertilizer production feeds half the world. He also lead the German team developing chemical weapons during World War I. He personally supervised the usage of such weapons and personally studied their effects. He formulated the equations for exposure time given chemical concentration. Several of his subordinates in his chemical warfare unit went on to become Nobel laureates as well.
His words: "During peace time a scientist belongs to the World, but during war time he belongs to his country."
Perhaps we are thinking of different things with respect to "critical thinking". To me it is not merely analytical thinking but also includes ethics, social consequences, personal consequences, etc.
Successful projects like ballistic missiles (V2), cruise missiles (V1), jet fighter (Me 262), etc demonstrate a high level of scientific understanding and ability. Mere engineering excellence may get you a smart bomb (Fritz X) or assault rifle (StG 44) but the preceding involves some serious science.
We can even go back to WW1. Germany had some of the best chemists. In particular a Nobel prize winning chemist that went on to develop chemical weapons.
The failed atomic project does not prove an unscientific culture. The fact that they had a credible atomic project proves they did. Politics and ideological infighting were hardly limited to Germany. Both are alive and well in science to this day in many advanced labs in the US. Europe and elsewhere.
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He is gonna end up buried in 37k of debt without even a piece of paper, damned shame is what it is, poor kid worked his ass off and got screwed..
How did that happen? The average for 4 year public schools is $13,600 a year. A part time job and a summer job could put a pretty huge dent in $13,600 a year. Note this figure includes room and board.
http://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=76
The only problem with your argument is that the head of the IRS at the time was a Bush appointee, not an Obama one.
The only problem with your argument is that the abuse was not initiated by the head of the IRS, rather it was initiated by lower level staff. Want to bet on what those staff members political affiliations are? What their opinion on tax reform is (simpler rules, smaller irs, etc)? Government employee union reform? Which candidate they supported?
Likewise, a conventional looking rifle with detachable magazines in "military" calibers is NOT considered an "assault weapon".
No. To some politicians they are. And since the definition of "assault weapon" is a political definition, they are. Look at California, there is currently a bill that bans all semi autos with detachable magazines.
Ummm, no.
Those rifles in Switzerland you're thinking of are NOT "assault weapons". They are selective-fire Assault Rifles.
In other words, REAL military weapons, rather than something that looks like a military weapon but shoots like a hunting rifle....
No. According to wiki the 1+ million includes assault rifles, plus former assault rifles that have been de-militarized and are semi auto only, plus what in the US would be called "assault weapons", plus the conventional looking but functionally identical semi autos with detachable magazines in "military" calibers.
The real assault rifles only number in the 200,000 to 300,000 range IIRC and they are still government property. One may not be as free to take them to the range for informal practice and other sporting activities as one would be able to do with the others mentioned.
Firearms related deaths is a bit of a red herring, misdirection. It includes suicides and justifiable self defense. It also fails to consider that criminals merely use different lethal weapons. Hence the need for police in the UK to weak stab proof vests. Things are far more complicated than you suggest.
Plus one could just as easily cherry pick a different comparison. Switzerland where that are over a million of what in the US would be considered "assault weapons" in private hands according to wiki, and there is no threat to society. What is different between the US and Switzerland? The Swiss have proper background checks, proper safety training and proper storage. Its not mere availability of rifles that is the problem. It the deficiencies we have in the US related to background checks, safety training and storage according to you logic of comparing countries.
Its not that the assault weapon ban was not 100% effective, its that it was 0% effective. When a ban is based on purely cosmetic features then firearms that are 100% functionally identical, but lack the cosmetic feature, will be perfect replacements. There are legit hunting and sporting rifles that are 100% functionally identical replacements for firearms like the civilian AR-15.
We saw this happen in the California and Federal assault weapon bans of the 90s. Unless you ban all semiautomatic firearms with a detachable magazine the bans will not meet the stated goals of the proponents. They will merely be a placebo that makes some feel better, ignorance is bliss. And of course politicians will get a bunch of free press, which is why otherwise intelligent people vote for legislation they know will not work.
That said, I agree there should be no buying loopholes. Every sale should go through a dealer and a background check. Personally I would be in favor of a buyer having gone through safety instruction at some point before making their first purchase. Something like a hunter's safety course would go a long way to preventing accidents.
I particularly enjoy how you're mindlessly ignoring the quote where the designer mentioned all of the problems they had with NT prior to the problem.
Really? The wiki article where the quote is found begins with a disclaimer stating that Windows NT had no role in this particular failure.
It sounds like he was railroaded into NT, and then had to use subpar developers who don't realize numbers cannot be divided by 0 instead of developers who never would have architected it in that manner to begin with.
No. The production version of the software, which was available at the time, had safeguards that handled the zero and would have prevented the problem. They were running a special development version that let people hand tweak values and permit those values into the system.
The ships network supported a number of machines and applications, including "monitoring condition assessment, damage control, machinery control and fuel control, monitoring the engines and navigating the ship". The divide by zero error brought all the connected "machines" down. Not applications, "machines".
No. LAN terminals crashed, that is it. The software that failed was *application* level software, not operating system level, not driver level. The *application* level software running on these terminals controlled ship's machinery.
There were no infamous BSOD errors.
In the infamous USS Yorktown incident, the entire network was taken down. Blue screen or not, that just should never happen.
Your own citation says otherwise. Devices connected to the network went down, not the network itself. In other words the devices that received the erroneous zero over the network had their application software crash. Unfortunately these applications controlled the engine. Windows NT, Linux, Mac OS X or RTOS would not have made a difference. It was the application controlling the equipment and it was the application that failed.
Client software shouldn't be able to bring down an O/S. Never mind an entire network.
It didn't. The network did not go down. LAN consoles crashed.
Fixed? You call running your propulsion control and maneuvering systems on windows nt fixed? This is simply laughable. Such systems should only be run on a completely independent tactical network and run only on bulletproof RTOS's.
While I prefer a more traditional embedded environment with a RTOS, blaming the problem on Windows NT is perpetuating an urban myth. The divide by zero was in an application not the operating system. If this application had been running under Linux or Mac OS X or a RTOS it would not have mattered, the problem was internal to the application. Well at least according the the developers of the software and the Navy officers and chiefs on board the ship at the time.
The police weren't there to break up a protest. They were there to remove campers. Just because you are a student you don't have the right to pitch a tent anywhere you wish on campus and have a sleepover with friends. Its the campers that refused to cooperate who were originally taken into custody, not people simply protesting on campus. Things spiraled from there.
Take your own advice and open your own eyes, watch the full 15 min video: http://ricochet.com/main-feed/UC-Davis-Pepper-Spray-Incident-What-Really-Happened.
Whether they intended to do so or not, those blocking effectively assisted those chanting "if you let them go we will let you leave". And those blocking were repeatedly warned and what was about to happen was explained. Its on the video.
Your video conveniently omits events prior to the pepper spraying. A large group of students marching to the spot where those in custody are being detained. Chant of "If you let them go, we will let you leave".
http://ricochet.com/main-feed/UC-Davis-Pepper-Spray-Incident-What-Really-Happened
The movie you offer is the 1 minute fragment that distorts what occurred. Here is a 15 minute video that gives a much better perspective on what happens. A large group of students decided to march on the spot where those in custody were being detained. Note the group chant of "If you let them go, we will let you leave".
http://ricochet.com/main-feed/UC-Davis-Pepper-Spray-Incident-What-Really-Happened
The individuals on the path weren't the source of danger. The larger crowd around chanting for the people in custody to be released were the danger. The people on the path sillily decided to block the exit.
Actually if you have watched the full video, the only officers that were surrounded were the ones that literally stepped over the group into the middle. also he was on the outside of the ring of protesters. note they were blocking a path that was about 20 feet wide in an OPEN park. the only reason they used the pepper spray was to "soften them up" before hauling them off.
You conveniently ignore those detained and those officers maintaining custody of the detained. These officers and the detained can not step over the protesters.
Because of campus police like Lt. John Pike http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UC_Davis_pepper-spray_incident
Your own link states that students *surounded* the police and *demanded* that those in custody be released. It further states that police ordered people to move and these people *refused*. What I recall from the full videos of the incident is that the police then pepper sprayed those people who refused to move and were *blocking* the path that the police wanted to use to exit the area.
This was *not* police simply walking up to protesters and pepper spraying them. These were people blocking an exit route as police were surrounded.
"Its pretty easy to demonstrate they are independent of one another."
Say what? A single anecdote ...
You just don't get the context do you? Since 1901 there have been 163 Nobel Laureates in chemistry. In a few minutes of googling I was able to find **4** that were active participants in chemical warfare, active as in personally on the battlefield.
Its not simply a single anecdote. Its at a minimum about 2.5% of Nobel Laureates, the elite amongst science. And its only about 2.5% because I only spent a few minutes googling, I have not looked at the other 159 Laureates at all.
Get over it. With a few minutes of research it was trivially shown that scientific literacy and critical thinking (wrt ethics) are independent of one another.
"Its pretty easy to demonstrate they are independent of one another."
Um, sorry to have to tell you this, but individual instances "demonstrate" exactly nothing.
Except when proving an overly broad statement to be false.
Maybe you need to work on your critical thinking skills?
While studying such things I seem to recall being told that the person resorting to ad hominem attacks just identified themselves as the loser of the argument.
Just because the crew isn't properly trained is no excuse for the officers not seeing to it that things are properly ship-shape!
If a crew member is not properly trained it is the officer's responsibility to quickly remedy that. It doesn't matter if the crew member is paid or a volunteer. You go to sea, you learn to do your job properly, period.
Sawdust and wood chips littered the floor ... Thank God that the Navy has those knuckle dragging Deck Apes to ensure that Navy ships don't founder in the same way!
My uncle was a carpenter. I never saw sawdust or wood chips on his workshop floor unless he was in the middle of cutting or drilling.
Of course in his youth he was in the Navy, destroyers, WW2. When I asked what he did he said that they maintained the ship and its equipment, cleaned the ship and its equipment, and drilled for damage control and battle. He added that on occasion they were allowed to eat or sleep and that on very rare occasions they went into battle (Pacific, '42-'45, over a dozen battle stars).
He told me he learned to immediately take care of the smallest things when he was in the Navy. That the saying "Navy regs are written in blood" is true, that many regs are the way they are because someone died doing things differently. Given the unforgiving nature of the sea I'm surprised the professional civilian sailors (officers of the Bounty at least) did not understand that sloppiness can get you killed at sea.
"Scientific literacy is not equivalent to critical thinking."
I did not claim that they were equivalent. But it's pretty hard to argue that they aren't related.
Its pretty easy to demonstrate they are independent of one another. Fritz Haber, Nobel Prize in Chemistry, synthesizing ammonia. His advances in fertilizer production feeds half the world. He also lead the German team developing chemical weapons during World War I. He personally supervised the usage of such weapons and personally studied their effects. He formulated the equations for exposure time given chemical concentration. Several of his subordinates in his chemical warfare unit went on to become Nobel laureates as well.
His words: "During peace time a scientist belongs to the World, but during war time he belongs to his country."
Perhaps we are thinking of different things with respect to "critical thinking". To me it is not merely analytical thinking but also includes ethics, social consequences, personal consequences, etc.
Successful projects like ballistic missiles (V2), cruise missiles (V1), jet fighter (Me 262), etc demonstrate a high level of scientific understanding and ability. Mere engineering excellence may get you a smart bomb (Fritz X) or assault rifle (StG 44) but the preceding involves some serious science.
We can even go back to WW1. Germany had some of the best chemists. In particular a Nobel prize winning chemist that went on to develop chemical weapons.
The failed atomic project does not prove an unscientific culture. The fact that they had a credible atomic project proves they did. Politics and ideological infighting were hardly limited to Germany. Both are alive and well in science to this day in many advanced labs in the US. Europe and elsewhere.
Critical thinking carries over to ethics. Who would have guessed?
Scientific literacy is not equivalent to critical thinking. The Nazi's were highly scientific and cutting edge in their technology.
Possibly as a delivery system for tactical nukes?
More likely a delivery system for thermite grenades over oil tankers.