That's because until version 3, Qt had a broken implementation of the X clipboard. With the advent of Qt 3 and KDE 3 it is expected that we will finally have a unified clipboard across X applications. That will happen in, say, a month.
That at least is what I keep hearing over and over. I can't give more details, as I do my user tasks and programming under Gnome.
Oops. You're right. I am so used to Gnome mostly being a collection of libraries, that I totally forgot to check for the availability of the desktop software itself.
It's not just the UK. The Data Protection Act is merely the UKs implementation of the EU Privacy Guidelines. You will find similar laws in all member states.
Long? Where do you get that idea? The last two updates came within a week after the new release. I remember being pissed because they broke Galeon, which is my primary browser.
That's why Mozilla immediately gets put on 'hold' in dselect after a release announcement on my system. I have to put up with enough sid breakage as it is, I'd prefer to keep a working browser to read the BTS.
It's not that I take advocacy groups very serious, but given the tone of that poster, I assume he used to be a regular at the particular advocacy group I frequent.
Otherwise, I just like debate (and flamewars), so why not spend some time on a.advocacy group?
And on a serious note, this particular article has been fodder for discussion for about two weeks now. Slashdot is a little slow on this one.
Well Mr. Black, if you had spent a few minuts on COLA, you'd have seen these numbers debunked multiple times, yet every time one of the MS apologist regulars tries to bring them up again!
It isn't. These particular numbers were presented on SecurityFocus without commentary. I'd guess the aggregate number was only added for completeness' sake.
It is all the pro-windows pundits that try to bend these numbers to their agenda.
Its funny how people back security focus when it talks about MS vulnerabilities, but once it mentions Linux, they are "Uniformed" or a variety of other things
In a word: Bullsh*t.
Securityfocus presented the numbers without bias, without commentary even. It is the MS shills that try to draw conclusions from these numbers, and one by one they take the aggregate Linux number, because it suits their agenda.
However, that aggregate number is worthless to draw conlusions from. At most one could use the distro numbers to draw the conlcusion that the average Linux distro ships with more (potential) vulnerabilities than Windows 2000. Of course, since the average Linux distro
ships with more server software than Windows (multiple mail servers for example),
has a habit of reporting all vulnerabilities, from local DoS to remote root,
of course it will show more vulnerabilities.
So, the numbers tell us nothing new, except that the MS apologists will grasp at any straw to discredit what little competition they have.
I hope you get to see this, but Bioware will be releasing Neverwinter Nights with Windows, Mac and Linux binaries simultaneously. I fully intend to buy it (of course, I have to resize my/opt partition first, RtCW takes up almost 1 Gig).
All true, except for one thing: He did that on someone else's system. Although I admit that I overreacted at first, I still think that he has mostly himself to blame for his problems.
You don't put the latest and greatest on a production box unless you're willing to face the consequences. If it goes wrong, by all means upgrade to see if the problem is fixed, but on a test system first.
When a program that I buy/download doesn't work, I immediately search for a patch. VERY reasonable behaviour.
Once, yes. Twice? Maybe. But multiple times? I admit that hopelessly incompetent was a bit too much (If you're reading this Josh, I'm sorry), but around 2.4.7 times the fundamental problems with 2.4 were more or less known. Anyone still using it on a production machine by that time could have known about what Josh describes.
So let me modify "hopelessly incompetent" to "overenthusiastic"
First, he replaces a known working server with something new. Then he keeps on adding bleeding edge newest kernel upon newest kernel to this box (following his narrative, it sounds as if he installed new kernels upon release).
Second, nowhere does he mention why he needed a 2.4 kernel in the first place. In fact, he mentions how he finally decided to downgrade to 2.2.
So, in conclusion: He upgrades to the bleeding edge without proper need, and when trouble ensues, instead of rolling back, he continues upgrading. Tell me why this guy is not a hopelessly incompetent sysadmin who's trying to blame Linux for his shortcomings?
Hell, even I as a home user waited until 2.4.17 before upgrading my main box from 2.2.19. If I can perceive the weaknesses of the 2.4 kernel, why can't a professional do so?
Wrong. RTFShA (Read The Fscking Sherman Act). Even I as a european know that much. Here's the first sentence of the 2nd section, straight from the DOJ website:
Every person who shall monopolize, or attempt to monopolize...
In other words, having a monopoly is definitely illegal under the Sherman Act.
Sorry if I sound a little harsh, but I am getting tired of having my favourite fora overrun by Microsoft shills trying to downplay their crimes. Not that I am saying that you are such a shill, just that I am fed up with this line of baloney.
Hope you get to see it, but yes, Philips sold its music division (Polygram Records) to Vivendi some two/three years back. They have been concentrating on their core business, which is shifting good hardware, ever since.
Philips is a seriously cool company. They make good equipment (listening to their 4.1 amplifier hooked up to my computer right now), and the only thing they're interested in is selling it. What you do with it is none of their business, and they come right out and say so.
If copy prevention schemes impede their sales, they will fight them. Note that according to them, they would not care about copy prevention anyway, because it just doesn't work.
Second, do a grep -ri philips/usr/src/linux/ | wc -l on your machine. Most of the lines are of course merely variables to deal with cd-rom hardware, but you will also find that one of the developers is a Philips employee. So Philips is also supportive of Free Software because, once again, it helps them shift units and of course being open with specs saves them the trouble with writing drivers.
Of course I'm biased here (I'm Dutch and so is the Philips Corporation), but I made it a point to buy most of my equipment from them. Kudos Philips! You gain loyal customers with this attitude!
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I know you might not see this, but I suggest that whoever modded your post Insightful is on crack.
In case you are really not aware of this, GPG comes with a GUI tool, the Gnu Privacy Assistant.
MartLet me guess: SOL.EXE?
MartThat's because until version 3, Qt had a broken implementation of the X clipboard. With the advent of Qt 3 and KDE 3 it is expected that we will finally have a unified clipboard across X applications. That will happen in, say, a month.
That at least is what I keep hearing over and over. I can't give more details, as I do my user tasks and programming under Gnome.
MartUsing Mozilla (or a derivative):
That's all there is to it. Konqueror supports this too.
MartOops. You're right. I am so used to Gnome mostly being a collection of libraries, that I totally forgot to check for the availability of the desktop software itself.
MartYup.
They're already in the main Debian archives. You have to be daring enough to run unstable though.
MartThat was more or less what I meant. Thanks for phrasing that more clearly.
MartThat is what is know as a leading question. Phrased like that it sounds as if Microsoft will lose control of the code.
A better phrasing would have been "Was the judge correct in ordering Microsoft to reveal the coding for its Windows program to the States' AGs".
No wonder a majority is voting 'No' on that poll. It is blatantly phrased to generate a pro-Microsoft outcome. Strange from an AOL/TW owned website.
MartIt's not just the UK. The Data Protection Act is merely the UKs implementation of the EU Privacy Guidelines. You will find similar laws in all member states.
MartLong? Where do you get that idea? The last two updates came within a week after the new release. I remember being pissed because they broke Galeon, which is my primary browser.
That's why Mozilla immediately gets put on 'hold' in dselect after a release announcement on my system. I have to put up with enough sid breakage as it is, I'd prefer to keep a working browser to read the BTS.
MartHehe.
It's not that I take advocacy groups very serious, but given the tone of that poster, I assume he used to be a regular at the particular advocacy group I frequent.
Otherwise, I just like debate (and flamewars), so why not spend some time on a .advocacy group?
And on a serious note, this particular article has been fodder for discussion for about two weeks now. Slashdot is a little slow on this one.
MartWell Mr. Black, if you had spent a few minuts on COLA, you'd have seen these numbers debunked multiple times, yet every time one of the MS apologist regulars tries to bring them up again!
MartIt isn't. These particular numbers were presented on SecurityFocus without commentary. I'd guess the aggregate number was only added for completeness' sake.
It is all the pro-windows pundits that try to bend these numbers to their agenda.
MartIn a word: Bullsh*t.
Securityfocus presented the numbers without bias, without commentary even. It is the MS shills that try to draw conclusions from these numbers, and one by one they take the aggregate Linux number, because it suits their agenda.
However, that aggregate number is worthless to draw conlusions from. At most one could use the distro numbers to draw the conlcusion that the average Linux distro ships with more (potential) vulnerabilities than Windows 2000. Of course, since the average Linux distro
- ships with more server software than Windows (multiple mail servers for example),
- has a habit of reporting all vulnerabilities, from local DoS to remote root,
of course it will show more vulnerabilities.So, the numbers tell us nothing new, except that the MS apologists will grasp at any straw to discredit what little competition they have.
MartI hope you get to see this, but Bioware will be releasing Neverwinter Nights with Windows, Mac and Linux binaries simultaneously. I fully intend to buy it (of course, I have to resize my /opt partition first, RtCW takes up almost 1 Gig).
MartIf only I could mod your post. The moderators keep on piling postive mods on mine even after it hit +5, while yours deserves that too.
You basically reiterated my point (minus my early morning irritation):
Agree with you 100%. Of course the fact that he shares some responsibility means that "Kernel of Pain" is also too harsh. That was my point.
MartAll true, except for one thing: He did that on someone else's system. Although I admit that I overreacted at first, I still think that he has mostly himself to blame for his problems.
You don't put the latest and greatest on a production box unless you're willing to face the consequences. If it goes wrong, by all means upgrade to see if the problem is fixed, but on a test system first.
MartAn AC wrote:
That he's a good developer does not automatically make him a good sysadmin. I admit that "hopelessly incompetent" was over the top though.
MartWhen a program that I buy/download doesn't work, I immediately search for a patch. VERY reasonable behaviour.
Once, yes. Twice? Maybe. But multiple times? I admit that hopelessly incompetent was a bit too much (If you're reading this Josh, I'm sorry), but around 2.4.7 times the fundamental problems with 2.4 were more or less known. Anyone still using it on a production machine by that time could have known about what Josh describes.
So let me modify "hopelessly incompetent" to "overenthusiastic"
MartFirst, he replaces a known working server with something new. Then he keeps on adding bleeding edge newest kernel upon newest kernel to this box (following his narrative, it sounds as if he installed new kernels upon release).
Second, nowhere does he mention why he needed a 2.4 kernel in the first place. In fact, he mentions how he finally decided to downgrade to 2.2.
So, in conclusion: He upgrades to the bleeding edge without proper need, and when trouble ensues, instead of rolling back, he continues upgrading. Tell me why this guy is not a hopelessly incompetent sysadmin who's trying to blame Linux for his shortcomings?
Hell, even I as a home user waited until 2.4.17 before upgrading my main box from 2.2.19. If I can perceive the weaknesses of the 2.4 kernel, why can't a professional do so?
MartFscking bullshit!!!
All I've seen modded to +5 (Insightful) lately is the fscking Microsoft shills.
FOAD, GOAT, HAND,
Mart (who's expecting that the Microsoft employees^W shills will mod this to oblivion)Wrong. RTFShA (Read The Fscking Sherman Act). Even I as a european know that much. Here's the first sentence of the 2nd section, straight from the DOJ website:
In other words, having a monopoly is definitely illegal under the Sherman Act.
Sorry if I sound a little harsh, but I am getting tired of having my favourite fora overrun by Microsoft shills trying to downplay their crimes. Not that I am saying that you are such a shill, just that I am fed up with this line of baloney.
MartHope you get to see it, but yes, Philips sold its music division (Polygram Records) to Vivendi some two/three years back. They have been concentrating on their core business, which is shifting good hardware, ever since.
MartPhilips is a seriously cool company. They make good equipment (listening to their 4.1 amplifier hooked up to my computer right now), and the only thing they're interested in is selling it. What you do with it is none of their business, and they come right out and say so.
If copy prevention schemes impede their sales, they will fight them. Note that according to them, they would not care about copy prevention anyway, because it just doesn't work.
Second, do a grep -ri philips /usr/src/linux/ | wc -l on your machine. Most of the lines are of course merely variables to deal with cd-rom hardware, but you will also find that one of the developers is a Philips employee. So Philips is also supportive of Free Software because, once again, it helps them shift units and of course being open with specs saves them the trouble with writing drivers.
Of course I'm biased here (I'm Dutch and so is the Philips Corporation), but I made it a point to buy most of my equipment from them. Kudos Philips! You gain loyal customers with this attitude!
That's no delusion. They are doing it for us little guys. We are their customers.
Mart