I don't think it has anything to do with linux being too popular, it has to do with one group thinking that the other group's technology is primitve.
Example, Linux users look down on Windows users, BSD users look down on Linux users, and Amigans look down on everybody.;-)
Maybe the technical excellence of an operating system is related to it's popularity? Less popular means technically better. That would explain why my Commodore 64 clobbers everything that came after it...
Why is it that we overlook the intent in this case? Because the we favour the result.
But this same sort of logic is what makes politics so bad. Rather than do what is right, the things that are politically useful are done. Sometimes these things are bad, and everyone yells. Other times these things are good, and no one comments because, heck, those politican guys are doing something I believe in!
Let's not apply double standards. They should be doing what is morally right and not what is politically right, all the time.
But of course, they can't for some reason or another, which is either based around money and greed, or voter polls.
If you take a look at the top 500 list, you'll notice the 8192 CPU, 4938 Rmax, IBM computer at #1. But look down the list at #7 and #9. Both are Hitachi SR8000-F1 computers, one with 100 CPUs and the other with 112.
Now I know this isn't too scientific, but if we work out the Rmax to CPU ratio for the IBM, it's 0.60. If we work it out for the Hitachis it's 9.17 and 9.24.
So if the Hitachi architecture is scalable (remember, this is NOT scientific, just speculation!), then a Hitachi with 8192 CPUs would have an Rmax of 75,120. Compare that to 4,938...
Bush: No the war on drugs has not been a success. If I were elected, I would immediately move our military forces in to bomb Saddam Hussein until the USA is free of drugs!
2) Minority Religions...
Bush: Do you mean to tell me there are people with different beliefs than me? And they have rights? Are you sure we're talking about the same USA?
3) Why give a tax cut?
Bush: Because we're capitalists, and we want to encourage the rich to get richer. Mr. Gore will tell you that we shouldn't have a tax cut, and it's obvious why he would think such a thing. He's a red commie.
4) electoral reform
Bush: It's a complex issue. The issue is change. Change, for the future. If you can't stand the heat, get our of the kitchen. Live free or die! And in conclusion, read my lips.
5)How Do You Feel About Intellectual Property?
Bush: I'm completely for the freedom of intellect. Hopefully I will be able to get some of somebody else.
6) Encryption....
Bush: If we allow the development and export of strong encryption, the Russians will use it against us!
*We see an advisor whisper something to Bush*
And we just can't have the Chinese using our own technology against us!
7) Rising Political Protests
by sterno
Bush: Sterno, as a 22 year old white 5 foot 10 male who works at NewTech, lives at 232 Parkland Drive, Silicon Valley, and is currently wearing either light blue boxer shorts, you have no need to worry about the power of multi-nationals. Say hello to jenny for me, I understand today is your 6 month aniversary?
8) Asteroid Defenses
Bush: I would scrap the program. We have already negotiated a deal with the ETs, the "Roswell Treaty", to destroy any dangerous asteroids in exchange for all the water in our oceans.
9) The Future of the Country, and of Humanity
Bush: I think it's very clear that every American should be thinking about getting me into Office. I know it's an ambitious idea, but it will only be slightly more difficult than landing a man on the moon.
Wasn't the same sort of thing applicable to Linux?
But given time, and work, it has progressed to be a very usable kernel. If the same sort of time and effort is put into the Hurd, will it not also succeed?
I've seen things far more disturbing on television than I've seen in computer games. The news is showing people, real people, being shot dead. I find this far more distressing that blasting apart a monster from another dimension using my oh-so-real rocket launcher.
If you really want to place blame, (and I don't believe you can simply point the finger at a single culprit), blame parents.
You are very right in saying these are kids, and as a parent it is your responsiblity to watch out and raise your son/daughter until they are of a suitable age to "think for themselves". But how many parents actually do this? How many parents stick their kids in front of the TV, or a computer game, or whatever-else-can-be-blamed, just so they don't have to worry about them?
And when something tragic does happen, do these parents take a little responsibility and say that maybe, possibly, they may have done a bad job? Or do they look for a scapegoat, be it computer games or the bad influence of the other kids at school?
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Methinks the name servers are going to be slashdotted...
Just out of curiousity, if goodwill turned around and made a few billion with your sofa and in turn started a sofa company making pathetic excuses for sofas which monopolised the market, and you where then forced to buy a crap sofa which means more money for MicroSofa to continue their bad sofa spree, would you shout then?:)
Agreed. Use either Quake 3 because it's got the latest and greatest technology, or Quake 1 because the source is GPLed.
I prefer Quake 1, since it doesn't take as much hardware grunt as Q3 to run, which would allow far more complex and detailed "maps" (read: architectural designs) to be created.
And the fact that it's GPLed potentially means better rendering code to and from the community.
"But when it comes to computers, I try to educate them about the harms they do the environment by using old, power-hungry junk, instead of spending a little money (that's not doing anything in the bank but giving power to the bankers) to get a modern machine that would serve them better."
But if they purchased a new computer, then eventually they would throw the Vic 20 out, and it would be used as landfill or some other environmentally harmful purpose. I would hate to think that it would get burnt (burned?) at some point, because I recall from school science class burning plastic releases bad (toxic?) gasses...
I don't know anything about power consumption of hardware, but I do know the newer Voodoo cards need their own power supply. Much like the old Vic 20s needed one power supply for the computer and one for the disk drive.
I think you have to keep in mind *why* they did it. It was probably for a challenge, but in the process they may have educated some newer programmers who have grown up with the bloated operating systems and compilers we have today (yes I know they do a lot more today than they did before). Some people will be amazed to hear "A Vic 20 does WAP!" because they never knew you could do so much in less than 20KB of RAM.
Imagine if all of today's software was like this, efficient and hard crafted. Entire operating systems would run happily in 2 - 4MB of RAM (including graphical user interface!) and when I go out and buy my 1GHz CPU it would actually run signicantly faster! I remember GEOS on the C64 ran in 64KB, and that was a graphical operating system that could run one application at a time (eg word processor, painting, database etc.) Today your *mouse driver* is probably 64KB big, and trying to tell a new grad student that it is possible to do that much in 64KB would be difficult.
Which part of the Amiga didn't you like? Was it the efficient operating system? The colour graphical user interface? The multitasking? The 32-bit architecture when everything else was 16-bit?
"Braindamaged CLI syntax"
Oh, you didn't like it because it wasn't Un*x. You could have just got a port of a Un*x shell you know...
"atari 800 class video"
What!? You mean to tell me the Atari 800 also was able to display up to 4096 colours on screen at once!? And it could pull off reslutions at high as 1280 x 512? (And that's *without* overscan)?? TO think, I was under the impression the Atari 800's maximum resolution was a monochrome 320 x 192.
Wow, he hit '.' instead of ',' when typing. Now let us mock and riddicule Amiga for it.:-/
That said, keep in mind just because 15,000 SDKs have been sold it does not mean there are 15,000 Amiga developers out there.
There would be far less I'd imagine, especially since the Amiga community tends to support anything produced for the Amiga - meaning many SDKs were purchases by people with no intent of programming anything.
"When it comes to the United States intervening in foreign country issues, either via politics or the military, should it's goal be to do what is right in the situation or to do what is in the United State's best interest?"
I posted earlier as an AC but I figured no one would read it, so here it is again.
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For the same reason we do everything else, both stupid and smart...
... because we can.
I don't think it has anything to do with linux being too popular, it has to do with one group thinking that the other group's technology is primitve.
;-)
Example, Linux users look down on Windows users, BSD users look down on Linux users, and Amigans look down on everybody.
Maybe the technical excellence of an operating system is related to it's popularity? Less popular means technically better. That would explain why my Commodore 64 clobbers everything that came after it...
Why is it that we overlook the intent in this case? Because the we favour the result.
But this same sort of logic is what makes politics so bad. Rather than do what is right, the things that are politically useful are done. Sometimes these things are bad, and everyone yells. Other times these things are good, and no one comments because, heck, those politican guys are doing something I believe in!
Let's not apply double standards. They should be doing what is morally right and not what is politically right, all the time.
But of course, they can't for some reason or another, which is either based around money and greed, or voter polls.
And that's politics.
Unless it's a Apollo rocket, in which case world governments probably won't be too happy with the States. ;)
If you take a look at the top 500 list, you'll notice the 8192 CPU, 4938 Rmax, IBM computer at #1. But look down the list at #7 and #9. Both are Hitachi SR8000-F1 computers, one with 100 CPUs and the other with 112.
Now I know this isn't too scientific, but if we work out the Rmax to CPU ratio for the IBM, it's 0.60. If we work it out for the Hitachis it's 9.17 and 9.24.
So if the Hitachi architecture is scalable (remember, this is NOT scientific, just speculation!), then a Hitachi with 8192 CPUs would have an Rmax of 75,120. Compare that to 4,938...
1) War on Drugs
Bush: No the war on drugs has not been a success. If I were elected, I would immediately move our military forces in to bomb Saddam Hussein until the USA is free of drugs!
2) Minority Religions...
Bush: Do you mean to tell me there are people with different beliefs than me? And they have rights? Are you sure we're talking about the same USA?
3) Why give a tax cut?
Bush: Because we're capitalists, and we want to encourage the rich to get richer. Mr. Gore will tell you that we shouldn't have a tax cut, and it's obvious why he would think such a thing. He's a red commie.
4) electoral reform
Bush: It's a complex issue. The issue is change. Change, for the future. If you can't stand the heat, get our of the kitchen. Live free or die! And in conclusion, read my lips.
5)How Do You Feel About Intellectual Property?
Bush: I'm completely for the freedom of intellect. Hopefully I will be able to get some of somebody else.
6) Encryption....
Bush: If we allow the development and export of strong encryption, the Russians will use it against us!
*We see an advisor whisper something to Bush*
And we just can't have the Chinese using our own technology against us!
7) Rising Political Protests
by sterno
Bush: Sterno, as a 22 year old white 5 foot 10 male who works at NewTech, lives at 232 Parkland Drive, Silicon Valley, and is currently wearing either light blue boxer shorts, you have no need to worry about the power of multi-nationals. Say hello to jenny for me, I understand today is your 6 month aniversary?
8) Asteroid Defenses
Bush: I would scrap the program. We have already negotiated a deal with the ETs, the "Roswell Treaty", to destroy any dangerous asteroids in exchange for all the water in our oceans.
9) The Future of the Country, and of Humanity
Bush: I think it's very clear that every American should be thinking about getting me into Office. I know it's an ambitious idea, but it will only be slightly more difficult than landing a man on the moon.
Read the flame war for yourself.
Wasn't the same sort of thing applicable to Linux?
But given time, and work, it has progressed to be a very usable kernel. If the same sort of time and effort is put into the Hurd, will it not also succeed?
I've seen things far more disturbing on television than I've seen in computer games. The news is showing people, real people, being shot dead. I find this far more distressing that blasting apart a monster from another dimension using my oh-so-real rocket launcher.
If you really want to place blame, (and I don't believe you can simply point the finger at a single culprit), blame parents.
You are very right in saying these are kids, and as a parent it is your responsiblity to watch out and raise your son/daughter until they are of a suitable age to "think for themselves". But how many parents actually do this? How many parents stick their kids in front of the TV, or a computer game, or whatever-else-can-be-blamed, just so they don't have to worry about them?
And when something tragic does happen, do these parents take a little responsibility and say that maybe, possibly, they may have done a bad job? Or do they look for a scapegoat, be it computer games or the bad influence of the other kids at school?
Methinks the name servers are going to be slashdotted...
Just out of curiousity, if goodwill turned around and made a few billion with your sofa and in turn started a sofa company making pathetic excuses for sofas which monopolised the market, and you where then forced to buy a crap sofa which means more money for MicroSofa to continue their bad sofa spree, would you shout then? :)
Agreed. Use either Quake 3 because it's got the latest and greatest technology, or Quake 1 because the source is GPLed.
I prefer Quake 1, since it doesn't take as much hardware grunt as Q3 to run, which would allow far more complex and detailed "maps" (read: architectural designs) to be created.
And the fact that it's GPLed potentially means better rendering code to and from the community.
"But when it comes to computers, I try to educate them about the harms they do the environment by using old, power-hungry junk, instead of spending a little money (that's not doing anything in the bank but giving power to the bankers) to get a modern machine that would serve them better."
:)
But if they purchased a new computer, then eventually they would throw the Vic 20 out, and it would be used as landfill or some other environmentally harmful purpose. I would hate to think that it would get burnt (burned?) at some point, because I recall from school science class burning plastic releases bad (toxic?) gasses...
I don't know anything about power consumption of hardware, but I do know the newer Voodoo cards need their own power supply. Much like the old Vic 20s needed one power supply for the computer and one for the disk drive.
I think you have to keep in mind *why* they did it. It was probably for a challenge, but in the process they may have educated some newer programmers who have grown up with the bloated operating systems and compilers we have today (yes I know they do a lot more today than they did before). Some people will be amazed to hear "A Vic 20 does WAP!" because they never knew you could do so much in less than 20KB of RAM.
Imagine if all of today's software was like this, efficient and hard crafted. Entire operating systems would run happily in 2 - 4MB of RAM (including graphical user interface!) and when I go out and buy my 1GHz CPU it would actually run signicantly faster! I remember GEOS on the C64 ran in 64KB, and that was a graphical operating system that could run one application at a time (eg word processor, painting, database etc.) Today your *mouse driver* is probably 64KB big, and trying to tell a new grad student that it is possible to do that much in 64KB would be difficult.
Bah I think I'm ranting. Better stop.
Which part of the Amiga didn't you like? Was it the efficient operating system? The colour graphical user interface? The multitasking? The 32-bit architecture when everything else was 16-bit?
"Braindamaged CLI syntax"
Oh, you didn't like it because it wasn't Un*x. You could have just got a port of a Un*x shell you know...
"atari 800 class video"
What!? You mean to tell me the Atari 800 also was able to display up to 4096 colours on screen at once!? And it could pull off reslutions at high as 1280 x 512? (And that's *without* overscan)?? TO think, I was under the impression the Atari 800's maximum resolution was a monochrome 320 x 192.
Hey look, I typed 'purchases' instead of 'purchased'. Let's have another go at Amiga! ;-)
Wow, he hit '.' instead of ',' when typing. Now let us mock and riddicule Amiga for it. :-/
That said, keep in mind just because 15,000 SDKs have been sold it does not mean there are 15,000 Amiga developers out there. There would be far less I'd imagine, especially since the Amiga community tends to support anything produced for the Amiga - meaning many SDKs were purchases by people with no intent of programming anything.
"When it comes to the United States intervening in foreign country issues, either via politics or the military, should it's goal be to do what is right in the situation or to do what is in the United State's best interest?"
I posted earlier as an AC but I figured no one would read it, so here it is again.