Gotta disagree. I haven't tried the SGI's but Fiery's almost always work. The only problem I've ever had with Fiery's is that some of them choke when your PostScript gets over about 100-150MB. Its the copiers/printers they're attached to that tend to go. I used a FieryXJ for about a year in a heavy use environment and only once ever had a problem with the Fiery itself.
First off, Kinko's employees aren't all bad. It depends on the Kinko's you go to. (Sorry, I'm an ex-Kinkoid and that really bugged me.).
I agree that its a bad idea to put NT on those sorts of machines, but at the same time, Xerox had some pretty crappy Unix interfaces, especially for their more recent products. The DocuTechs were ok, although the software is in need of a major update and most of the older ones are underpowered. But before I left Kinko's we beta-tested a digital spot-color machine that ran off a Sparc. It had quite possibly the worst UI I have ever seen on a copier. When you started up the thing I came up in X after a login, but all the commands were input from xterm. No one wants to use a command line to run a copier (although I could be wrong - lots of/.ers are masochists). They just want to click some buttons and make copies. Xerox should have simply improved their interfaces, not changed OS's.
I find it interesting that no one has mentioned people with eidetic memory (often called photographic). J.R.R. Tolkein is the first person to come to mind. He was (in addition to a fantasy writer) an Old English scholar. What was remarkable is that you could ask questions such as "What was the text in paragraph 4 on page 51" about any book he'd ever read and he could answer it. And these were some obscure texts in a language that isn't exactly English. I'd love to have recall like that. Now if they could figure out a way to turn THAT on, I'd be a happy camper.
I totally disagree. Yes, the majority of/. readers use Linux, but that hardly makes it Linux oriented. Last I checked slashdot ran stories on Linux, *BSD, BeOS, MacOS, and Windows (to make fun of). I think the/. community transcends operating system. As do many of the users. How many sigs have I seen bragging about how many OS's are on one harddrive.
Just to keep this on topic, I use a text editor and HTML Tidy. HTML Tidy is a great little program that checks and corrects your code and will do indenting if you want (and its cross platform). You can get it at http://www.w3.org/People/Raggett/tidy.
Speaking as a newbie myself, I started with RedHat a few months ago because of their higher profile, but as I learned more I was unhappy with their out-of-the-box security and other things. I've since moved to SuSE and may switch again. Lately I've been considering Debian or (please don't hurt me) even one of the BSD's. Cut Redhat some slack. They're like a gateway drug. They get you started and then you move on to the _better stuff_. (Drugs were an analogy-I in no way use or promote them).
Even if the allegation that Linux was only good for "simple applications" like word processing and spreadsheets was true, that is all that 99% of the computer users out there use. All they need is a word processor and a browser.
In addition the last time I looked MS Word was far from a "simple application" with all kinds of bloatware additions I don't really need.
The text should also point out that if he wants to be open source friendly, then he should be using Linux and Apache instead of IIS as lots of folks have pointed out. If you're serious, I'd be willing to help with what I can.
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Gotta disagree. I haven't tried the SGI's but Fiery's almost always work. The only problem I've ever had with Fiery's is that some of them choke when your PostScript gets over about 100-150MB. Its the copiers/printers they're attached to that tend to go. I used a FieryXJ for about a year in a heavy use environment and only once ever had a problem with the Fiery itself.
Skippy
First off, Kinko's employees aren't all bad. It depends on the Kinko's you go to. (Sorry, I'm an ex-Kinkoid and that really bugged me.).
/.ers are masochists). They just want to click some buttons and make copies. Xerox should have simply improved their interfaces, not changed OS's.
I agree that its a bad idea to put NT on those sorts of machines, but at the same time, Xerox had some pretty crappy Unix interfaces, especially for their more recent products. The DocuTechs were ok, although the software is in need of a major update and most of the older ones are underpowered. But before I left Kinko's we beta-tested a digital spot-color machine that ran off a Sparc. It had quite possibly the worst UI I have ever seen on a copier. When you started up the thing I came up in X after a login, but all the commands were input from xterm. No one wants to use a command line to run a copier (although I could be wrong - lots of
Skippy
I find it interesting that no one has mentioned people with eidetic memory (often called photographic). J.R.R. Tolkein is the first person to come to mind. He was (in addition to a fantasy writer) an Old English scholar. What was remarkable is that you could ask questions such as "What was the text in paragraph 4 on page 51" about any book he'd ever read and he could answer it. And these were some obscure texts in a language that isn't exactly English. I'd love to have recall like that. Now if they could figure out a way to turn THAT on, I'd be a happy camper.
Skippy
While this person is obviously an idiot troll, you have to respect the amount of work that went into this. :-)
Skippy
A slashbox sounds like a great idea. Saves work for Rob and crew and lets us filter or not. Motion seconded.
Skippy
I totally disagree. Yes, the majority of /. readers use Linux, but that hardly makes it Linux oriented. Last I checked slashdot ran stories on Linux, *BSD, BeOS, MacOS, and Windows (to make fun of). I think the /. community transcends operating system. As do many of the users. How many sigs have I seen bragging about how many OS's are on one harddrive.
Just to keep this on topic, I use a text editor and HTML Tidy. HTML Tidy is a great little program that checks and corrects your code and will do indenting if you want (and its cross platform). You can get it at http://www.w3.org/People/Raggett/tidy.
Skippy
Maybe they'll think about this in the future and go with vendors for whose hardware there is already support or nudge them into creating drivers.
Dreaming of a world where all my hardware works.
Skippy
Speaking as a newbie myself, I started with RedHat a few months ago because of their higher profile, but as I learned more I was unhappy with their out-of-the-box security and other things. I've since moved to SuSE and may switch again. Lately I've been considering Debian or (please don't hurt me) even one of the BSD's. Cut Redhat some slack. They're like a gateway drug. They get you started and then you move on to the _better stuff_.
(Drugs were an analogy-I in no way use or promote them).
Even if the allegation that Linux was only good for "simple applications" like word processing and spreadsheets was true, that is all that 99% of the computer users out there use. All they need is a word processor and a browser.
In addition the last time I looked MS Word was far from a "simple application" with all kinds of bloatware additions I don't really need.
The text should also point out that if he wants to be open source friendly, then he should be using Linux and Apache instead of IIS as lots of folks have pointed out. If you're serious, I'd be willing to help with what I can.
Skippy