the nature of proof is i specifically cannot prove you're not a moron, so you must be one.
there are a lot of things that can't be proven. We cannot prove that we don't exist in a "Matrix" like construct. We can't prove that we're not living the ultimate trumann show with little green men playing puppet master. We can't prove that existence doesn't end when we stop observing it... or that we're not simply hallucinating that existence you know exists.
I can fabricate any manner of elaborate scenario that you would be unable to prove or disprove... oh i know one, goddidit.
The only thing we can do is assume that reality doesn't flip on its head when we're looking the other way. that physics doesn't vary wildly when we move a few hundred lightyears out. and that miracles are relatively rare... since you know we haven't really seen any that we'd consider physics breaking. If we can't assume reality is you know, constant, then we really have nowhere to start and we've already lost.
i could go on, and on and on, but most of it would be a digression.
are they being threatened? are their colleagues being locked away for long periods of time for writing things they shouldn't? why do they feel the way they feel and is it the governments responsibility to make them feel better?
i don't believe it is. Judge them by their actions i suppose. I'm a strong proponent of all tenets of the first amendment, but i also believe that the US has the strongest protections for speech in the world. You can print whatever the hell you want, you can denigrate the sitting president and compare him to a despot, and nobody will lift a finger against you. Societal condemnation is often more dangerous than governmental. People who call the US government "big brother" have apparently never heard of russia, north korea, china or the middle east.
1) yeah, it'd be nice 2) i don't really see the point, copyright isn't a patent, it's the cherry on top, it isn't the cake. 3) if they had a single person to string up, they'd have strung him up, but you're looking at a clusterfuck for 2008, and we already do it when its on a smaller scale. 4) do we want to encourage or discourage economic activity in this country. 5) here i'd support, abroad i'd say spy the hell out of them 6) i don't support this.
Education, taxation and the role of government in health care... immigration, reproductive health, consumer protection, social security, size of the military, US role in foreign engagements...
I don't agree with half the things you list as important, and if the ones i've listed aren't important... wow we're fucked cuz some heavy shit is about to come down the line.
you were criticizing a poster who was criticizing another poster for calling people washouts, so i naturally assumed you were taking the same position, my mistake. next time add a disclaimer if you don't want to be saddled with all of the position you are defending.
yes that we as people are fallible, but the truth that we hold is not. science asks us to constantly check our beliefs because what we hold true may be wrong. the abrahamics tell us that what we hold true is wrong unless we hold a particular view. fallible vs infallible.
I wasn't particularly addressing the "born sick and commanded to be well" aspect of the human condition.
in my mind, it's impossible to be a strong supporter of both. In my mind the fundamental tenant of scientific thinking is that we are fallible, so check every assumption, every measurement every known in triplicate. Religion prioritizes personal experience over external observation.
As Tyson has said, it's scary that our courts take eyewitness testimony as almost the highest form of evidence, where in science it's the least of the forms of evidence that is possible. Building a base of knowledge on facts that are as concrete as we can possibly make them, and having an outlook on the truth of the universe based entirely in faith, subjective truth, are incompatible in a non-conflicted individual.
i don't think anyone should doubt that jesus existed. just his claims of divinity. making a dude up out of whole cloth takes more conspiracy and trouble than i'm comfortable with.
you run into the issue of causation too. do we really believe that people didn't have near death experiences until the advent of modern medicine? your life flashing before your eyes is something apparently common enough to turn into a saying and something people apparently experience when confronted by imminent mortality. no religious connection, extremely specific perceptual footprint. probably a combination of adrenaline and pants-shitting terror.
night terrors and alien abduction, extremely specific, widely reported, no religious connection.
out of body experience, tunneling vision, light at the end of the tunnel... not truly different from the aforementioned, but definitely something that might have been incorporated into religious texts.
i wasn't saying the trauma of imminent brain death is random, i was saying it was traumatic. It might be traumatic in largely the same way for most people in fact.
again from the defendants point of view not much, but you were yourself denigrating an entire profession. basically calling all PDs washouts who couldn't make it as real lawyers.
and if you're trying to actually get at the root of the problem, then it's a clear distinction that you're casually just waving your hand about.
i don't need to insult you to feel better, i insulted you because your name literally invited the comparison. unless it's some stellar and subtle reference to the count of monte cristo that i'm not getting... you'd be a dumass to get butthurt over getting called a dumb fuck... dumb ass.
i didn't read your post very carefully, but one point. eyewitness testimony is incredibly shaky. We take videos because we can't trust our eyes, we have mass-spec because we can't perceive atoms, and we don't trust our noses, we have microphones because we can't trust our ears and our ears have crappy range. We have clocks because our sense of time is subjective and can be influenced neurochemical releases...
We don't trust our measurements because people are fallible, we have error bars because the universe is kinda random and extremely complex.
Someone says they had an out of body experience. I dreamed i was flying in my youth too, when you're on the edge of consciousness, lots of things can happen, and the brain is pretty damn complex.
You toss a powerful magnet at a brain and you can shut off emotions, shut off senses, distort them and induce them... what makes you think the brain dying is any less traumatic than changing the flow of electricity in one portion?
science doesn't care about what is appealing but what is truth. a belief that does not bear on reality is also called a delusion. If the truth of the matter is that there is no life after death, and that human existence is a meaningless shamble across the pages of history, so be it. This is what is true, this is what is depressing, but this is what is true. I hold truth in higher esteem than i hold my own sense of wellbeing.
I acknowledge that persistent after death is an appealing idea, but i am made so that i cannot believe. I would love to be religious, but i can't choose my belief, it follows the evidence because that's who I am.
the theory of evolution through natural selection is our best guess at what the truth is, and because it is heavily supported, i cannot believe anything else.
he did "better luck tomorrow" which, you know is pretty damn good. Big plus, John Cho was in that.
People seem to think that just because he found incredible success with the FF franchise that's all he did, does or can do. You know, sometimes you gotta do a project to pay the bills, and FF is pretty much paying a lot of bills.
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the nature of proof is i specifically cannot prove you're not a moron, so you must be one.
there are a lot of things that can't be proven. We cannot prove that we don't exist in a "Matrix" like construct. We can't prove that we're not living the ultimate trumann show with little green men playing puppet master. We can't prove that existence doesn't end when we stop observing it... or that we're not simply hallucinating that existence you know exists.
I can fabricate any manner of elaborate scenario that you would be unable to prove or disprove... oh i know one, goddidit.
The only thing we can do is assume that reality doesn't flip on its head when we're looking the other way. that physics doesn't vary wildly when we move a few hundred lightyears out. and that miracles are relatively rare... since you know we haven't really seen any that we'd consider physics breaking. If we can't assume reality is you know, constant, then we really have nowhere to start and we've already lost.
i could go on, and on and on, but most of it would be a digression.
:) do you want the government reined in or the corporations? you can't have both.
for the US i'd say. fuck the writer's feelings.
are they being threatened? are their colleagues being locked away for long periods of time for writing things they shouldn't? why do they feel the way they feel and is it the governments responsibility to make them feel better?
i don't believe it is. Judge them by their actions i suppose. I'm a strong proponent of all tenets of the first amendment, but i also believe that the US has the strongest protections for speech in the world. You can print whatever the hell you want, you can denigrate the sitting president and compare him to a despot, and nobody will lift a finger against you. Societal condemnation is often more dangerous than governmental. People who call the US government "big brother" have apparently never heard of russia, north korea, china or the middle east.
woops, meant to mark this as funny, misclicked to overrated, commenting to reverse.
1) yeah, it'd be nice
2) i don't really see the point, copyright isn't a patent, it's the cherry on top, it isn't the cake.
3) if they had a single person to string up, they'd have strung him up, but you're looking at a clusterfuck for 2008, and we already do it when its on a smaller scale.
4) do we want to encourage or discourage economic activity in this country.
5) here i'd support, abroad i'd say spy the hell out of them
6) i don't support this.
Education, taxation and the role of government in health care... immigration, reproductive health, consumer protection, social security, size of the military, US role in foreign engagements...
I don't agree with half the things you list as important, and if the ones i've listed aren't important... wow we're fucked cuz some heavy shit is about to come down the line.
they call them snake oil salesmen or messiahs :)
one of them lies to you, the other makes you lie to yourself.
yeah, it's only really worth it f you can blind and deafen an infant.
Post hoc ergo propter hoc
again, divinity is one thing, that some dude named jesus lived at some point in the area, i'm perfectly willing to concede.
you were criticizing a poster who was criticizing another poster for calling people washouts, so i naturally assumed you were taking the same position, my mistake. next time add a disclaimer if you don't want to be saddled with all of the position you are defending.
yes that we as people are fallible, but the truth that we hold is not. science asks us to constantly check our beliefs because what we hold true may be wrong. the abrahamics tell us that what we hold true is wrong unless we hold a particular view. fallible vs infallible.
I wasn't particularly addressing the "born sick and commanded to be well" aspect of the human condition.
tyson has lamented the fact that newton was deeply religious before.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
in my mind, it's impossible to be a strong supporter of both. In my mind the fundamental tenant of scientific thinking is that we are fallible, so check every assumption, every measurement every known in triplicate. Religion prioritizes personal experience over external observation.
As Tyson has said, it's scary that our courts take eyewitness testimony as almost the highest form of evidence, where in science it's the least of the forms of evidence that is possible. Building a base of knowledge on facts that are as concrete as we can possibly make them, and having an outlook on the truth of the universe based entirely in faith, subjective truth, are incompatible in a non-conflicted individual.
i don't think anyone should doubt that jesus existed. just his claims of divinity. making a dude up out of whole cloth takes more conspiracy and trouble than i'm comfortable with.
hydrogen has nothing to react with right? still need the oxygen component.
you run into the issue of causation too. do we really believe that people didn't have near death experiences until the advent of modern medicine? your life flashing before your eyes is something apparently common enough to turn into a saying and something people apparently experience when confronted by imminent mortality. no religious connection, extremely specific perceptual footprint. probably a combination of adrenaline and pants-shitting terror.
night terrors and alien abduction, extremely specific, widely reported, no religious connection.
out of body experience, tunneling vision, light at the end of the tunnel... not truly different from the aforementioned, but definitely something that might have been incorporated into religious texts.
i wasn't saying the trauma of imminent brain death is random, i was saying it was traumatic. It might be traumatic in largely the same way for most people in fact.
:P the point being that you can do it repeatedly and toggle it like a switch :)
again from the defendants point of view not much, but you were yourself denigrating an entire profession. basically calling all PDs washouts who couldn't make it as real lawyers.
and if you're trying to actually get at the root of the problem, then it's a clear distinction that you're casually just waving your hand about.
i don't need to insult you to feel better, i insulted you because your name literally invited the comparison. unless it's some stellar and subtle reference to the count of monte cristo that i'm not getting... you'd be a dumass to get butthurt over getting called a dumb fuck... dumb ass.
:) don't know about that guy, but i saw better luck tomorrow maybe a decade ago. It was good. the point being i'd definitely heard about it.
i didn't read your post very carefully, but one point. eyewitness testimony is incredibly shaky. We take videos because we can't trust our eyes, we have mass-spec because we can't perceive atoms, and we don't trust our noses, we have microphones because we can't trust our ears and our ears have crappy range. We have clocks because our sense of time is subjective and can be influenced neurochemical releases...
We don't trust our measurements because people are fallible, we have error bars because the universe is kinda random and extremely complex.
Someone says they had an out of body experience. I dreamed i was flying in my youth too, when you're on the edge of consciousness, lots of things can happen, and the brain is pretty damn complex.
You toss a powerful magnet at a brain and you can shut off emotions, shut off senses, distort them and induce them... what makes you think the brain dying is any less traumatic than changing the flow of electricity in one portion?
science doesn't care about what is appealing but what is truth. a belief that does not bear on reality is also called a delusion. If the truth of the matter is that there is no life after death, and that human existence is a meaningless shamble across the pages of history, so be it. This is what is true, this is what is depressing, but this is what is true. I hold truth in higher esteem than i hold my own sense of wellbeing.
I acknowledge that persistent after death is an appealing idea, but i am made so that i cannot believe. I would love to be religious, but i can't choose my belief, it follows the evidence because that's who I am.
the theory of evolution through natural selection is our best guess at what the truth is, and because it is heavily supported, i cannot believe anything else.
John Cho's already on set too :) so familiar environs
he did "better luck tomorrow" which, you know is pretty damn good. Big plus, John Cho was in that.
People seem to think that just because he found incredible success with the FF franchise that's all he did, does or can do. You know, sometimes you gotta do a project to pay the bills, and FF is pretty much paying a lot of bills.
obligatory xkcd btw:
http://xkcd.com/1443/
... why'd you instruct him? less to point and laugh at now.
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look at my art, see what i've made.