This probably is accurately flame bait. Not because of the poster's words, but because it will be flamebait to at least one raving linux fundamentalist.
This makes me ashamed to be a slashdotter. This is NOT flamebait. I can only hope with the help of metamoderation, this guy never moderates again *wanders off because he hasn't 'MetaModerated today'*:)
Isn't it great that in other situations (like censorship), America is this wonderful place, where there is so much freedom, so much more so than the rest of the world... The Constitution, and My Right To Carry A 22 Caliber And Blow Your Head Off If You Step On My Property(TM)...
Yet you need other countries who are apparently a bit more free in their other restrictions... *confused look*
The only difference is that I would have known sooner that I was going to lose $50 worth of groceries because my fridge would have emailed me when the temp. dropped a certain amount.
If there was a mechanical fault, wouldn't the temperature rise?
No. You misunderstood the direction I was looking. My apologies. I'm talking about those commercial or otherwise developers who choose to use more 'restrictive' licences, only to have RMS say that is is somehow 'not illegitimate(sic)" to copy their software regardless of their licence.
The same one who threatens legal action against those that break "his" GPL Licence?
Okay. He would think not. I can agree with that. The point I'm more trying to make is you can't have your cake and eat it too. Using your enemies law against them is one thing. The point I'm making is if he advocates breaking said law/using it against said enemy, then it's gotta be expected that law will be used back. i.e. the copying of protected software (rightly or wrongly - remember, "he who writes the code chooses the licence" and you are (not you specifically!) *infringing* on the freedoms and rights of that author in trying to obtain freedom for yourself).
I alwso admit to disagreeing somewhat with importance of this. Seems very mountain/molehill-like to me.
Piracy: "...Some of us might even prefer to use a positive term such as ``sharing information with your neighbor."
Third Party Ideas... "we more or less agree with them":
The Manifesto: Piracy Is Your Friend
"Note that the GNU Project recommends avoiding the term piracy since it implies sharing copies is somehow illegitimate. (Excuse me? It is! Whether or not your goal is to legitimise it, it is *still* illegal)
"The fact is, I'm more interested in defending your freedom and mine than in how software entrepreneurs feel."
In fact defending everyone's freedom BUT the freedom of developers to charge for the work they have undertaken, especially when he advocates piracy as "sharing information with your neighbour".
<sarcasm>Selective freedom is such a great thing.</sarcasm>
Now, I know I'm going to get flamed/moderated into the ground, but read it, it is not bait:
The above poster made me think that Stallman is relatively hypocritical.
*Waits for it*
He advocates breaking the law when it comes to software theft (Don't get me started on "ooh, but it's not theft. show me what the writers lost when i copied it" - that argument doesn't wash and is an utter copout. I work in the software industry myself and I can tell you in no uncertain terms). "The law doesn't correlate with what I agree, so let's break it, and perhaps even 'rename' it into something that might make you a little more comfortable at the thought".
*Jump forward to accusations on Slashdot of GPL violation*
Sue! Sue! They broke the law! What right do they have to do this! Take them to court and tear them a new asshole!
I can see the possible words forming in the heads now... words like ideology, and how sometimes people need to disobey laws to get their ideology across and make the world A Better Place(tm). I've even seen comparisons to Mahatma Gandhi, et al. Problem is, there is no reasonable comparison. It's not something threatening anyone's basic lives.
Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.
Hopefully the point got across in all that without me resorting to my usual facetious vitriole. Anyway, it probably won't change anyone's mind. I don't expect it to. But at least have a think.
You'll have to forgive me, getting riled about the very Amerocentric tone to 99.5% of posts!
In absolute terms, no, not as big as either. Relatively? Quite large. You have to remember Australia is about 98% the size of America, with 8% the people. So actually, maybe even a little larger. Two major "guarantees" of employment: CCIE (as with anywhere) and *sigh* MCSE:)
This is not even remotely the case, but it makes for good self-righteous rants on Slashdot.
What, somewhat along the lines of "You are all living in backwards-ass countries whose governments don't even trust you to carry arms. Blah blah blah constitution blah blah firearms blah blah only country in the world blah blah rights blah blah socialists blah blah blah"?
This is gonna be marked as flamebait. But here goes:
Blah blah blah.
Who's to say...? The several countries who have resisted governments even without their 'cornerstone' right.
I don't think the US trusts its subjects with guns. I sure as hell wouldn't. You ever consider why that backward, "socialist" (WTF?!?) nation called Australia has a murder rate TEN times less per capita than yours? Can you draw conclusions?
None of those nations are socialist.
You're right, the US is unlike everywhere else. No other country is so often the laughing stock of the rest of the world. And I wouldn't put it down to an inferiority complex.
What should really be remembered is that there is an apparent hypocrisy here, not because people can't make up their minds, but the government needed the vote of a conservative independant from Tasmania, so they bent over backwards to get it - giving him his net censorship bill.
*argh* America isn't the only place with a tech sector! Yes. We have one. A large one. Digital, Sun and IBM have major presences, IBM even has/had a chip fabrication facility.
Australia has a similar *proportion* of IT workers to the States.
You still require a separate licence for each connection, even if "connection is made through hardware or software connection aggregation or pooling" (from NT4 EULA).
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Dunno which is worse.
This makes me ashamed to be a slashdotter. This is NOT flamebait. I can only hope with the help of metamoderation, this guy never moderates again *wanders off because he hasn't 'MetaModerated today'* :)
Yet you need other countries who are apparently a bit more free in their other restrictions... *confused look*
If there was a mechanical fault, wouldn't the temperature rise?
Well, actually both Real and MS were both sponsors, though MS was a "Premium Corporate" and Real just a "Corportate"...
With or without Tommy *shiver*
I worry about what "won't work" :)
Upgrade, and just put up with what breaks?
Why would I want to do that?
The same one who threatens legal action against those that break "his" GPL Licence?
I alwso admit to disagreeing somewhat with importance of this. Seems very mountain/molehill-like to me.
From http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/philoso phy.html:
- The Manifesto: Piracy Is Your Friend
- "Note that the GNU Project recommends avoiding the term piracy since it implies sharing copies is somehow illegitimate. (Excuse me? It is! Whether or not your goal is to legitimise it, it is *still* illegal)
A few examples...http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/philoso phy.html has at least half a dozen references to it.
Ensuring that software, even commercial, not written by him, remains, or "becomes" free, through illegal acts.
And is this is good .... how?
In fact defending everyone's freedom BUT the freedom of developers to charge for the work they have undertaken, especially when he advocates piracy as "sharing information with your neighbour".
<sarcasm>Selective freedom is such a great thing.</sarcasm>
The above poster made me think that Stallman is relatively hypocritical.
*Waits for it*
He advocates breaking the law when it comes to software theft (Don't get me started on "ooh, but it's not theft. show me what the writers lost when i copied it" - that argument doesn't wash and is an utter copout. I work in the software industry myself and I can tell you in no uncertain terms). "The law doesn't correlate with what I agree, so let's break it, and perhaps even 'rename' it into something that might make you a little more comfortable at the thought".
*Jump forward to accusations on Slashdot of GPL violation*
Sue! Sue! They broke the law! What right do they have to do this! Take them to court and tear them a new asshole!
I can see the possible words forming in the heads now... words like ideology, and how sometimes people need to disobey laws to get their ideology across and make the world A Better Place(tm). I've even seen comparisons to Mahatma Gandhi, et al. Problem is, there is no reasonable comparison. It's not something threatening anyone's basic lives.
Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.
Hopefully the point got across in all that without me resorting to my usual facetious vitriole. Anyway, it probably won't change anyone's mind. I don't expect it to. But at least have a think.
You'll have to forgive me, getting riled about the very Amerocentric tone to 99.5% of posts!
In absolute terms, no, not as big as either. Relatively? Quite large. You have to remember Australia is about 98% the size of America, with 8% the people. So actually, maybe even a little larger. Two major "guarantees" of employment: CCIE (as with anywhere) and *sigh* MCSE :)
What, somewhat along the lines of "You are all living in backwards-ass countries whose governments don't even trust you to carry arms. Blah blah blah constitution blah blah firearms blah blah only country in the world blah blah rights blah blah socialists blah blah blah"?
Blah blah blah.
Who's to say...? The several countries who have resisted governments even without their 'cornerstone' right.
I don't think the US trusts its subjects with guns. I sure as hell wouldn't. You ever consider why that backward, "socialist" (WTF?!?) nation called Australia has a murder rate TEN times less per capita than yours? Can you draw conclusions?
None of those nations are socialist.
You're right, the US is unlike everywhere else. No other country is so often the laughing stock of the rest of the world. And I wouldn't put it down to an inferiority complex.
*YET*? Name a few other censorship policies here that are over and above the "glorious land of the free" *cough*hack*cough*...
What should really be remembered is that there is an apparent hypocrisy here, not because people can't make up their minds, but the government needed the vote of a conservative independant from Tasmania, so they bent over backwards to get it - giving him his net censorship bill.
Australia has a similar *proportion* of IT workers to the States.
Explain to me the irony. I'm confused. I don't see it.
... you can get a credit card at age sixteen with your parents/guardians as co-signatories.
I'd love to see a 727 running on propellers :)
You still require a separate licence for each connection, even if "connection is made through hardware or software connection aggregation or pooling" (from NT4 EULA).