There is a reason the boss makes me stand at the door and greet prospective interns. Each year we try to get at least 3 that are at least as big as me (6'3" 220 Lbs) and make them do all the lifting:)
Problem is those methods of dropping the weight, also increase the cost (TFA assesses both).
My problem with the assessment however, becomes even more glaringly obvious when you look at the micro SD proposal in the grandparent. If you are going to have a single SD card reader and plug these cards in as needed, the weight estimate is ok. If however all 1 PB of data must be immediately available to your software, the weight gos up dramatically.
In the case of 3.5" SATA HDDs, that weight/cost should include a storage system that renders all the data available at the same time. 140 Lbs for 48 Hard drives is reasonable.
Depending on your RAID Level, 1,500 Lbs per petabyte is closer to reality. 1,700 Lbs to 2,000 Lbs per petabyte if you add the rack to the equation.
BTW: Doing something sane, like RAID, instead of JBOD or RAID 0, will increase that mass somewhat.
In a small country everybody has to do multiple things and local talent is never far away. This means all kinds of crazy things like the PM not having a "Marine one". Instead he just borrows a regular chopper and a flight crew from the army as needed.
This led to an interesting fiasco in around 1987. A chopper on route to pick up the Prime minister has technical difficulties and makes an emergency landing on a high school football field (You yanks call it soucker). One of the Army Helecopter mechanics teaches math at that high school so he gos out to fix it. Then he offers to fly it back to camp (Another bird picked up the PM while the repair was going on).
How is this relevant?
He crashed the helicopter on the way back to camp.
I did get the joke. Sometimes a straight answer to a funny question makes the question funnier:)
# rm -rf ~/*
C:\> DELTREE c:\WINDOWS
?
Cracks me up every time.
I have no idea what kind of @#$% is configured on *your* Blackberry. I do this with mine because I know what's on it will not bother any of my machines.
Don't take this personally. I also won't let you touch the KVM console in my data center ontil I know you can be trusted to not issue
Where I live, it's the phone manufacturers that make money off chargers. I.e. A replacement charger for my Blackberry cost the equivalent of U$6 while one for a much cheaper Samsong cost U$15.
The phone company itself would much prefer if the phones could be virtually free and if they didn't even need chargers at all. (Disclosure: I work for a mobile provider.) The providers make money off call credits and phone bills. Some (including my employer) provide phone instruments at subsidized prices in hopes that people will get hooked on talking to everyone else.
RTFA
It will be Mini-USB. However there are 2 issues still to clarify.
1. Will the phone be required to charge at the standard voltages delivered by a PC USB port? I would hate to see that BS achieved by Motorola, where you can only charge on a PC if the Motorola Charger is installed. I would prefer if everyone else has to change to match Blackberry. If my Blackberry runs low in the data center I can just plug into any exposed USB port on a powered up server. . A Dell waiting at the BIOS screen or a SUN in full production.
2. Will this be coordinated with the Chinese standard? If both the EU and China agree on a standard, India and Japan can be convinced to adopt it. Leaving America to figure out which direction it wants to go.
RTFA
It will be Mini-USB. However there are 2 issues still to clarify.
1. Will the phone be required to charge at the standard voltages delivered by a PC USB port? I would hate to see that BS achieved by Motorola, where you can only charge on a PC if the Motorola Charger is installed. I would prefer if everyone else has to change to match Blackberry. If my Blackberry runs low in the data center I can just plug into any exposed USB port on a powered up server. . A Dell waiting at the BIOS screen or a SUN in full production.
2. Will this be coordinated with the Chinese standard? If both the EU and China agree on a standard, India and Japan can be convinced to adopt it. Leaving America to figure out which direction it wants to go.
Cloning is easier than artificial intelligence. The barriers preventing Uncle Sam from deploying a Battalion of Shack clones in 2024 are ethical and legal, not technical.
Meanwhile a mechanical soldier that can sneak into an enemy camp and decide on it's own when to silently kill a guard or to shoot it's way out is still beyond the NSA.
He got his examples wrong and predicted an error in the opposite direction of where I see it coming.
What we are likely to see with people choosing the physical traits of their children is an awful lot of boys with Shaquille O'Neal's body and Stephen Hawkins' mind. Which is fine ontil some previously unknown virus to which Shack is susceptible strikes and wipes out 1/2 the male population, More if the thinking required to find a cure differs from Hawkins'.
Although, in the few cases I know of where a phone was crushed by a car, it fell on the ground 1st so all bones and genitals were a safe distance from those destructive tires.
I live in Jamaica. Our telecoms regulations are somewhat different and our phone companies are a lot different. (especially the dominant cellular provider).
The most popular phone plan (Something like 93% of the market) is "prepaid". Meaning. You can buy a phone and spend less than U$10 per year on call credit if all you do is receive calls. (They require at least one top-up every quarter)
With that kind of structure, the phone companies take a gamble every time they subsidize the cost of an instrument. For this reason, mid range phones are sold at near cost and High end phones are sold at a profit.
Note the prices. The Exchange rate is roughly JM $90 to US $1. So that Bottom of the line Nokia 1200 is selling for under $13 with no contract or obligation. A true disposable phone. While the BlackBerry Storm is $777.
A mere price doubling? These people should consider themselves fortunate.
I remember nearly a decade ago when our then only phone company sold it's top end cellular to staff at a 30% discount with a 2 year interest free payment plan. They thought it was really a great deal, ontil 18 months later when a new phone matching or exceeding all features of that model started selling for less than the monthly installments.
As for myself, I have never bought a cellphone costing more than 2X the absolute cheapest phone on the local market. But, that's just because I am not rich.
Here is a more general rule of thumb: If your phone is crushed by a car 15 minutes after your last backup and those backups are safe, you should only be upset over the inconvenience of being out of touch for a few hours and having to restore on the new phone. If the loss of the phone instrument itself is a cause for concern, you payed too much.
To go into an office and get all the information needed to prove a criminal charge you have to provide evidence to convince a judge to give you a warrant. At least that's how it was before the new rules allowed Federal agencies to just say "terrorism" and skip past the middleman.
As a regulator, things are a little different. This guy has a license to operate and you are authorized to walk in and search his stuff just to see if he is complying with the terms of his license. If he isn't (virtually all licenses forbid criminal activity), you can just shut him down. In doing all of this you get to rifle throgh his files, interrogate his staff etc... Enough to gather the kind of evidence you can then pass on to the FBI or the local sheriff to say "Hey don't you have a cell reserved for people like this?"
This is just an extension of an old strategy. Just review the case of Al Capone if you are in doubt.
"When you create a mess, you have to clean it up." -: Mom.
If America had never taken them in, they would probably be dead already with no fingers pointed at America. Now that all this has happened, the US is going to have to give them asylum. Ironic?
The other option is just to pay a broke nation a pile of money to take them. Jamaica would probably take them at a Billion Dollars per dozen.
I'm a Level 6 Elf, you insensitive clod.
And why are you making such a big deal of malware? I havn't been hit by a single trojan since I installed the Latest Macafee and started doing update/scan on my Linux box every day and stoped opening email attachments. It's been 2 months of hassle free computing.
What I found interesting is this line "...waiting for a nation to grant them asylum"
So ohm... Nobody wants them? I mean seriously, Guantanamo Bay is America's little piece of Cuba but it's a safe bet these men are not from America or Cuba . (Say what you will about Castro, he dose not let anyone else mistreat Cubans.)
What about the countries they originally came from? Do they not want them back? Why? Or is it that they don't want to go back? If so why?
Not passing judgments or anything, just really curious.
The guy who posits the idea of the Open Source business model dying is under the impression that companies pay for support so they can call someone when it's broken? ROTFLOL.
I have never gotten better support from a vendor's phone line or email cue than I do on IRC. And my fellow Slashdotters should know a thing or two about IRC's failings as a support vehicle (was it even built for that?)
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There is a reason the boss makes me stand at the door and greet prospective interns. Each year we try to get at least 3 that are at least as big as me (6'3" 220 Lbs) and make them do all the lifting :)
A discussion must have a point?
you must be new here.
This is just giving somebody else your data to store (the email providers)
Problem is those methods of dropping the weight, also increase the cost (TFA assesses both).
My problem with the assessment however, becomes even more glaringly obvious when you look at the micro SD proposal in the grandparent. If you are going to have a single SD card reader and plug these cards in as needed, the weight estimate is ok. If however all 1 PB of data must be immediately available to your software, the weight gos up dramatically.
In the case of 3.5" SATA HDDs, that weight/cost should include a storage system that renders all the data available at the same time. 140 Lbs for 48 Hard drives is reasonable.
Depending on your RAID Level, 1,500 Lbs per petabyte is closer to reality. 1,700 Lbs to 2,000 Lbs per petabyte if you add the rack to the equation.
BTW: Doing something sane, like RAID, instead of JBOD or RAID 0, will increase that mass somewhat.
Can I be your attorney in this matter? I am sure that together we can force an appropriate settlement.
In a small country everybody has to do multiple things and local talent is never far away. This means all kinds of crazy things like the PM not having a "Marine one". Instead he just borrows a regular chopper and a flight crew from the army as needed.
This led to an interesting fiasco in around 1987. A chopper on route to pick up the Prime minister has technical difficulties and makes an emergency landing on a high school football field (You yanks call it soucker). One of the Army Helecopter mechanics teaches math at that high school so he gos out to fix it. Then he offers to fly it back to camp (Another bird picked up the PM while the repair was going on).
How is this relevant?
He crashed the helicopter on the way back to camp.
nahh... I'm just crazy.
Awe contrair.
:)
I did get the joke. Sometimes a straight answer to a funny question makes the question funnier
# rm -rf ~/*
C:\> DELTREE c:\WINDOWS
?
Cracks me up every time.
Yes. I mean Driver. I think there is a bug in my Language Processor.
Now you tell me.
At least it didn't go too far. The guys in the emergency room should be able to stitch it back in. I hope.
No.
I have no idea what kind of @#$% is configured on *your* Blackberry. I do this with mine because I know what's on it will not bother any of my machines.
Don't take this personally. I also won't let you touch the KVM console in my data center ontil I know you can be trusted to not issue
# rm -rf ~/* C:\> DELTREE c:\WINDOWS
or any other destructive command.
Ultimate responsibility lies with Motorola's CEO. The purpose is real simple. Do you want people buying a $5 generic charger or a $25 genuine charger?
If you want to be more clear. Both chargers cost around the same amount to make.
Where I live, it's the phone manufacturers that make money off chargers. I.e. A replacement charger for my Blackberry cost the equivalent of U$6 while one for a much cheaper Samsong cost U$15.
The phone company itself would much prefer if the phones could be virtually free and if they didn't even need chargers at all. (Disclosure: I work for a mobile provider.) The providers make money off call credits and phone bills. Some (including my employer) provide phone instruments at subsidized prices in hopes that people will get hooked on talking to everyone else.
RTFA
It will be Mini-USB. However there are 2 issues still to clarify.
1. Will the phone be required to charge at the standard voltages delivered by a PC USB port? I would hate to see that BS achieved by Motorola, where you can only charge on a PC if the Motorola Charger is installed. I would prefer if everyone else has to change to match Blackberry. If my Blackberry runs low in the data center I can just plug into any exposed USB port on a powered up server. . A Dell waiting at the BIOS screen or a SUN in full production.
2. Will this be coordinated with the Chinese standard? If both the EU and China agree on a standard, India and Japan can be convinced to adopt it. Leaving America to figure out which direction it wants to go.
RTFA It will be Mini-USB. However there are 2 issues still to clarify. 1. Will the phone be required to charge at the standard voltages delivered by a PC USB port? I would hate to see that BS achieved by Motorola, where you can only charge on a PC if the Motorola Charger is installed. I would prefer if everyone else has to change to match Blackberry. If my Blackberry runs low in the data center I can just plug into any exposed USB port on a powered up server. . A Dell waiting at the BIOS screen or a SUN in full production. 2. Will this be coordinated with the Chinese standard? If both the EU and China agree on a standard, India and Japan can be convinced to adopt it. Leaving America to figure out which direction it wants to go.
Cloning is easier than artificial intelligence. The barriers preventing Uncle Sam from deploying a Battalion of Shack clones in 2024 are ethical and legal, not technical.
Meanwhile a mechanical soldier that can sneak into an enemy camp and decide on it's own when to silently kill a guard or to shoot it's way out is still beyond the NSA.
He got his examples wrong and predicted an error in the opposite direction of where I see it coming.
What we are likely to see with people choosing the physical traits of their children is an awful lot of boys with Shaquille O'Neal's body and Stephen Hawkins' mind. Which is fine ontil some previously unknown virus to which Shack is susceptible strikes and wipes out 1/2 the male population, More if the thinking required to find a cure differs from Hawkins'.
Wise words.
Although, in the few cases I know of where a phone was crushed by a car, it fell on the ground 1st so all bones and genitals were a safe distance from those destructive tires.
My fault for not Clarifying.
I live in Jamaica. Our telecoms regulations are somewhat different and our phone companies are a lot different. (especially the dominant cellular provider).
The most popular phone plan (Something like 93% of the market) is "prepaid". Meaning. You can buy a phone and spend less than U$10 per year on call credit if all you do is receive calls. (They require at least one top-up every quarter)
With that kind of structure, the phone companies take a gamble every time they subsidize the cost of an instrument. For this reason, mid range phones are sold at near cost and High end phones are sold at a profit.
Note the prices. The Exchange rate is roughly JM $90 to US $1. So that Bottom of the line Nokia 1200 is selling for under $13 with no contract or obligation. A true disposable phone. While the BlackBerry Storm is $777.
A mere price doubling? These people should consider themselves fortunate.
I remember nearly a decade ago when our then only phone company sold it's top end cellular to staff at a 30% discount with a 2 year interest free payment plan. They thought it was really a great deal, ontil 18 months later when a new phone matching or exceeding all features of that model started selling for less than the monthly installments.
As for myself, I have never bought a cellphone costing more than 2X the absolute cheapest phone on the local market. But, that's just because I am not rich.
Here is a more general rule of thumb: If your phone is crushed by a car 15 minutes after your last backup and those backups are safe, you should only be upset over the inconvenience of being out of touch for a few hours and having to restore on the new phone. If the loss of the phone instrument itself is a cause for concern, you payed too much.
To go into an office and get all the information needed to prove a criminal charge you have to provide evidence to convince a judge to give you a warrant. At least that's how it was before the new rules allowed Federal agencies to just say "terrorism" and skip past the middleman.
As a regulator, things are a little different. This guy has a license to operate and you are authorized to walk in and search his stuff just to see if he is complying with the terms of his license. If he isn't (virtually all licenses forbid criminal activity), you can just shut him down. In doing all of this you get to rifle throgh his files, interrogate his staff etc... Enough to gather the kind of evidence you can then pass on to the FBI or the local sheriff to say "Hey don't you have a cell reserved for people like this?"
This is just an extension of an old strategy. Just review the case of Al Capone if you are in doubt.
"When you create a mess, you have to clean it up." -: Mom.
If America had never taken them in, they would probably be dead already with no fingers pointed at America. Now that all this has happened, the US is going to have to give them asylum. Ironic?
The other option is just to pay a broke nation a pile of money to take them. Jamaica would probably take them at a Billion Dollars per dozen.
I'm a Level 6 Elf, you insensitive clod. And why are you making such a big deal of malware? I havn't been hit by a single trojan since I installed the Latest Macafee and started doing update/scan on my Linux box every day and stoped opening email attachments. It's been 2 months of hassle free computing.
What I found interesting is this line "...waiting for a nation to grant them asylum"
So ohm... Nobody wants them? I mean seriously, Guantanamo Bay is America's little piece of Cuba but it's a safe bet these men are not from America or Cuba . (Say what you will about Castro, he dose not let anyone else mistreat Cubans.)
What about the countries they originally came from? Do they not want them back? Why? Or is it that they don't want to go back? If so why?
Not passing judgments or anything, just really curious.
Wow. It get's worse.
The guy who posits the idea of the Open Source business model dying is under the impression that companies pay for support so they can call someone when it's broken? ROTFLOL.
I have never gotten better support from a vendor's phone line or email cue than I do on IRC. And my fellow Slashdotters should know a thing or two about IRC's failings as a support vehicle (was it even built for that?)