Perhaps you could be more specific. Hampton Roads is a region with several cities within: Virginia Beach, Norfolk, Newport News, Hampton, Chesapeake, Suffolk, Yorktown, Williamsburg, etc...
Taxation pretty much sucks statewide (especially with the $3.2 billion deficit) but each entity has its own police force.
Well, if that's the case, a provider might consider deploying something like Sunstream Wireless' network which is based on the fairly un-congested 5.8GHz U-NII spectrum. CPE is $795 for speeds up to 10Mbps full-duplex at distances up to 10 miles.
Do I like my job? Well, yeah, I guess... But, actually, I've been so focused on getting my business up and running that it's hard to give 100% to my job, which actually pays the bills.
This is difficult because of the many inquiries we receive for our services but we simply don't have enough customers yet to allow me to leave my current job to devote myself full-time to my business.
I'm truly grateful to be employed. I feel for those who are currently not.
I simply need to reprioritize what's important to me, what puts food on the table and what could be an excellent opportunity down the road.
Oh, lighten up, asshole. I think everyone in the U.S., especially the military, can use a little bit of compassion and fun in their lives right now.
Geez... I was in the military myself and I still think this is very cool for children to witness. It's even cooler how it shows the family values side of our government.
Actually I was just running down the list of things I think people want and saying "if you deliver these with wires, wireless, or avian carrier people will want it -- if you try to sell bandwidth just because of the way you provide it, people will not be so interested".
Ahhh...cool.:-)
Stuff like some cablecos are doing "you can't get to port 25 except on our routers...nobody can get to port 80 at your home...".
Ahhh, I see. I'm familar with that too. Many of the WISP's I associate with are usually pretty laid back and will allow open access on their networks, within reason. I'm referring to the small, regional WISP's.
For 1Gbit/sec, or even 3-5Mbit/sec? No wonder nobody stays in that business long!:-)
LOL! Actually, that's for a minimal connection which could be 256kbps symmetrical.:-) The 1Gbps is possible via Western Multiplex's Tsunami line but this is definintely not a residential solution considering the units can run, for both links, about $250k.
I agree with no one staying in business very long charging $29 for a 3-5Mbps connection. Many WISP's charge for a CIR of 256kbps to 512kbps with a MIR up to 3-5Mbps, depending on whether they're deploying FHSS or DSSS gear, with the latter being faster and usually cheaper but more susceptible to the WEP security issues we hear about.
Unfortunately, quite simply, there aren't enough of you to meet the economies of scale necessary to make such operations profitable.
Actually, it depends on the surrounding area, IMHO. Are there any other potential subscribers surrounding the interested party? If so, would they be interested in the service too? Would the interested party be willing to market the service on behalf of the provider in exchange for, perhaps, free service and, possibly, free equipment?
We're consdering putting a survey on our website to look into gathering an interest in the localities around us which are broadband deprived. It doesn't make sense to build an infrastructure which could start at $10k if the surrounding area's residents aren't interested in the service.
Ahh, but think how cool it would be to bring your laptop into the library with your wireless card, plop down in a big stuffy chair and be able to surf the 'Net at high speeds.:-)
There is no real demand for fixed wireless over DSL or cable access. There is demand for high bandwidth, low latency, working service, fixed IP, no mandatory filters, easy set up, fast installs, and low price (clearly some of these things are more important to some people then others -- many don't care about fixed IP for example)
I think you're confusing fixed wireless with satellite-based broadband, stripes.;-)
Fixed wireless can scale up to 1Gbps with P2P links although average links are about 3-5Mbps.
Fixed IP's are available with fixed wireless (depending on the provider)
Not sure what you mean about "mandatory filters."
CPE is approaching the point where all a customer has to do is place the unit near his or her window, plug the unit into their NIC and run through the self-install app.
Low price - I've seen WISP's post as low as $29 per month with a $99 install.
The problem with the wireless freenets is that the freenet operators are essentially giving away access from the for-profit providers which, in turn, often violates the providers' TOS and AUP agreements.
One model worth considering would be to have a for-profit ISP install wireless 802.11b access points in public locations such as restaurants, book stores, coffee shops, etc. where the business owner would pay for the the provider for the equipment and bandwidth necessary to run the access point and then, turn around, and either resell it to the end user or simply give it away. This could create a 10-15% increase in foot traffic to the business and keep its patrons happy by allowing them to come into the establishment and surf the 'Net via the patron's own laptop, PDA, etc. and 802.11b card.
Check out Freenets for just that. There are many wireless "freenets" being deployed throughout the world. Personally, I don't believe their model will work for the long-term because the providers are going to catch on and shut them down, considering most of the freenets are violating the providers' TOS agreements.
However, a model that would work is having businesses who would like to place a public wireless access point in their place of business where people could come in with their own equipment and access the 'Net. The business would pay the provider for the access point and the bandwidth, then turn around and do as they wish for this service, i.e. resell it to customers, give it away, whatever.
Granted, this is focusing on the Richmond, Va. right now, but the uniqueness of the model is flexible enough to consider other regions starving for broadband services. The spin on the model is to sell broadband access and equipment (either via fixed wireless, frame relay, whatever) to businesses, such as coffeeshops, restaurants, and any other entity which may benefit from having a wireless public access point in their facility which may be used by anyone with a laptop and their own radio card.
There are many Freenets around but they all base their models on turning around and giving away their providers' access, which is commonly a violation of the providers' TOS agreements.
There are many issues to think about with this particular model, i.e. security, configuration, compatiblity, etc., but I truly believe it could be very successful, IMHO.
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I think they did pick a "tasteful choice of words." Many news sites did collapse under the load. If anything, I think they were nice about what they said about the news sites. At least they didn't say "the news' sites were so fu*ked up, they couldn't fulfill site visitors' thirst and need for knowledge they had." How about that for a "tasteful choice of words"??? Geez...
I'm probably going to add the same thing that has been already said many times over but I'm extremely thankful for/.'s efforts at keeping the news up-to-the-minute. I've tried hitting CNN's site several times throughout Tuesday and it was basically non-responsive. / came up everytime I hit it. Since I didn't have access to a TV, the only news source I had was the 'Net and / ensured we were all kept up to date with the latest information.
This story was certainly fascinating and provided us all an excellent overview of your infrastructure and, more importantly, the sincere dedication the/team maintains.
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Might want to check this site out then:
http://www.bbwexchange.com. I think there might be one or two WISPs in Portland.
Already going on:
http://www.freenetworks.org
They're not talking about satellite-based services; they're talking about fixed wireless. Big difference.
Probably using high frequency LMDS-type spectrum or something similar.
Concerning billing, you might want to check out Freeside which is an open-source billing application based on Perl and MySQL:
http://www.sisd.com/freeside/
It might do the job for your billing infrastructure and would do it for free! :-D
Perhaps you could be more specific. Hampton Roads is a region with several cities within: Virginia Beach, Norfolk, Newport News, Hampton, Chesapeake, Suffolk, Yorktown, Williamsburg, etc...
Taxation pretty much sucks statewide (especially with the $3.2 billion deficit) but each entity has its own police force.
Well, if that's the case, a provider might consider deploying something like Sunstream Wireless' network which is based on the fairly un-congested 5.8GHz U-NII spectrum. CPE is $795 for speeds up to 10Mbps full-duplex at distances up to 10 miles.
Or, perhaps a meshed network would be an idea like Nokia's Rooftop solution.
Check out Freenetworks.org for a list of public networks.
Check out http://www.wirelesstcp.com/best/compare.html for a list of private WISP's.
Do I like my job? Well, yeah, I guess... But, actually, I've been so focused on getting my business up and running that it's hard to give 100% to my job, which actually pays the bills.
This is difficult because of the many inquiries we receive for our services but we simply don't have enough customers yet to allow me to leave my current job to devote myself full-time to my business.
I'm truly grateful to be employed. I feel for those who are currently not.
I simply need to reprioritize what's important to me, what puts food on the table and what could be an excellent opportunity down the road.
I find your lack of morals and compassion highly offensive. They're tracking Santa for the kiddies, for Pete's sake. Give it a rest!
Geez... Pathetic....
Oh, lighten up, asshole. I think everyone in the U.S., especially the military, can use a little bit of compassion and fun in their lives right now.
Geez... I was in the military myself and I still think this is very cool for children to witness. It's even cooler how it shows the family values side of our government.
Plenty. :-)
http://www.bbwexchange.com/wisps/index.htm
Why? Curious...
I beg to differ:
http://www.odessaoffice.com/wireless/mobile.htm
Ahhh...cool. :-)
Stuff like some cablecos are doing "you can't get to port 25 except on our routers...nobody can get to port 80 at your home...".
Ahhh, I see. I'm familar with that too. Many of the WISP's I associate with are usually pretty laid back and will allow open access on their networks, within reason. I'm referring to the small, regional WISP's.
:-)
For 1Gbit/sec, or even 3-5Mbit/sec? No wonder nobody stays in that business long!
LOL! Actually, that's for a minimal connection which could be 256kbps symmetrical. :-) The 1Gbps is possible via Western Multiplex's Tsunami line but this is definintely not a residential solution considering the units can run, for both links, about $250k.
I agree with no one staying in business very long charging $29 for a 3-5Mbps connection. Many WISP's charge for a CIR of 256kbps to 512kbps with a MIR up to 3-5Mbps, depending on whether they're deploying FHSS or DSSS gear, with the latter being faster and usually cheaper but more susceptible to the WEP security issues we hear about.
If you're curious about pricing, an excellent WISP map I know of is at http://www.bbwexchange.com/wisps/index.htm.
HTH! :-)
Actually, it depends on the surrounding area, IMHO. Are there any other potential subscribers surrounding the interested party? If so, would they be interested in the service too? Would the interested party be willing to market the service on behalf of the provider in exchange for, perhaps, free service and, possibly, free equipment?
We're consdering putting a survey on our website to look into gathering an interest in the localities around us which are broadband deprived. It doesn't make sense to build an infrastructure which could start at $10k if the surrounding area's residents aren't interested in the service.
Research is key. :-)
BTW, I know Jer at MIA. Awesome guy who knows a bunch about fixed wireless!
Ahh, but think how cool it would be to bring your laptop into the library with your wireless card, plop down in a big stuffy chair and be able to surf the 'Net at high speeds. :-)
- I think you're confusing fixed wireless with satellite-based broadband, stripes.
;-)
- Fixed wireless can scale up to 1Gbps with P2P links although average links are about 3-5Mbps.
- Fixed IP's are available with fixed wireless (depending on the provider)
- Not sure what you mean about "mandatory filters."
- CPE is approaching the point where all a customer has to do is place the unit near his or her window, plug the unit into their NIC and run through the self-install app.
- Low price - I've seen WISP's post as low as $29 per month with a $99 install.
Hope this clarifies a few things.http://www.isp-wireless.com
http://www.dslreports.com/forum/dslalt
Plenty of demand. ;-)
One model worth considering would be to have a for-profit ISP install wireless 802.11b access points in public locations such as restaurants, book stores, coffee shops, etc. where the business owner would pay for the the provider for the equipment and bandwidth necessary to run the access point and then, turn around, and either resell it to the end user or simply give it away. This could create a 10-15% increase in foot traffic to the business and keep its patrons happy by allowing them to come into the establishment and surf the 'Net via the patron's own laptop, PDA, etc. and 802.11b card.
Check out http://www.richmondfreewireless.org/tavi-0.20/ for more info. You'll notice it's very similar to Seattle Wireless, Personal Telco, etc. but the model is a bit different.
HTH!
Check out Freenets for just that. There are many wireless "freenets" being deployed throughout the world. Personally, I don't believe their model will work for the long-term because the providers are going to catch on and shut them down, considering most of the freenets are violating the providers' TOS agreements.
However, a model that would work is having businesses who would like to place a public wireless access point in their place of business where people could come in with their own equipment and access the 'Net. The business would pay the provider for the access point and the bandwidth, then turn around and do as they wish for this service, i.e. resell it to customers, give it away, whatever.
Granted, this is focusing on the Richmond, Va. right now, but the uniqueness of the model is flexible enough to consider other regions starving for broadband services. The spin on the model is to sell broadband access and equipment (either via fixed wireless, frame relay, whatever) to businesses, such as coffeeshops, restaurants, and any other entity which may benefit from having a wireless public access point in their facility which may be used by anyone with a laptop and their own radio card.
There are many Freenets around but they all base their models on turning around and giving away their providers' access, which is commonly a violation of the providers' TOS agreements.
There are many issues to think about with this particular model, i.e. security, configuration, compatiblity, etc., but I truly believe it could be very successful, IMHO.
Sorry, all...just a bit irritated. :-)
I'm probably going to add the same thing that has been already said many times over but I'm extremely thankful for /.'s efforts at keeping the news up-to-the-minute. I've tried hitting CNN's site several times throughout Tuesday and it was basically non-responsive. / came up everytime I hit it. Since I didn't have access to a TV, the only news source I had was the 'Net and / ensured we were all kept up to date with the latest information.
/team maintains.
This story was certainly fascinating and provided us all an excellent overview of your infrastructure and, more importantly, the sincere dedication the
Thank you all for keeping many "in the know."
Regards,
Kory