The timeouts are not because the project shut down, but simply because the nameservers can't handle the traffic that's thrown at them. One of the largest burdens of running ORDB was getting proper name service. The zone is still served by many nameservers, but is empty.
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The zone has been emptied, so nothing will break due to the shutdown of ORDB.
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ORDB always attempted to notify the administrators of listed servers, several variations on the postmaster@server would have been sent and ignored by the people maintaining the server before you.
I wouldn't outsource my spamdecisions to AHBL in this lifetime, as can be seen on NANOG archives, the OSDL is populated by people known to the community as troublemakers.
ORDB is run by volunteers, and as such do not have a phonenumber. You can however contact ORDB using the webpage, and this lets your mail through, no matter whether you're listed or not.
PSI and C&W are both tier-1's, they don't have any transit agreements with others, which means that PSI and C&W customers are entirely cut off from each other at the moment.
Considering that one of the root nameservers is situated at PSI makes the matter even worse.
Anyone can deliver 100Mbit MANs for $1000 when they obviously don't build on redundant technology...at least they're not multihomed and their primary pipe is down.
Wonder if this will boot it: cisco 12008/GRP (R5000) processor (revision 0x01) with 131072K bytes of memory. R5000 CPU at 200Mhz, Implementation 35, Rev 2.1, 512KB L2 Cache
That's complete BS, ISP's do invest longterm into providing DSL to the prices you see currently. Take it from one who actually does the calculations. Oh...and take a look at my tld...I'm not American
I am aware he isn't the right Bruce. And I'm also aware, that you've already got DSL, so it never could be you. But...to get back to the point, DSL is a huge investment to the Service Provider, which is why the geographic area is carefully selected.
There might be, but really....most of the config can be done centrally (That's my job right now), and to install the copper-loop doesn't require a University degree:)
You obviously don't have any idea of what equipment transporting these amounts of data costs. And how expensive it is to set up a local DSL-POP. bottm-line: broadband-services costs more money than consumers are willing to pay, and since this is a market-driven world, that will only change when either of two happens: 1. People are willing to pay more to get more 2. Prices on equipment drop
But what about the things we are fighting for in the rest of the world, like privacy? Doubleclick or others could just put their databases out there and we couldn't touch them. (If the theory about Sealand being a sovereign nation holds through of course)
Ironic since Cisco has just finished acquiring Arrowpoint, and my guess is that they'll implement the Arrowpoint code in....none other than the 65xx series....pretty ironic;)
> The internet was designed to be resistant to assault (nuclear or conventional) by rerouting around missing routers. Given the huge percentage of trafic going through Mae East and Mae West I would be sorta surprised if a well placed conventional attack couldn't all but deystroy it.
Hi, my name is Andreas, I come from a different part of the world than the US. You might have heard of it? It's called Europe. For once I'd wish that people start realizing that more and more Internet traffic stays within the respective countries borders. The US is not what the internet is all about anymore.
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Why is it that you think class action lawsuits are something found all over the world?
At least they're found in Denmark (Retsplejeloven chapter 23 a), so in this case, they may be entirely appropriate. Unlike your comment.
The timeouts are not because the project shut down, but simply because the nameservers can't handle the traffic that's thrown at them. One of the largest burdens of running ORDB was getting proper name service. The zone is still served by many nameservers, but is empty.
The zone has been emptied, so nothing will break due to the shutdown of ORDB.
ORDB always attempted to notify the administrators of listed servers, several variations on the postmaster@server would have been sent and ignored by the people maintaining the server before you.
I wouldn't outsource my spamdecisions to AHBL in this lifetime, as can be seen on NANOG archives, the OSDL is populated by people known to the community as troublemakers.
> Nice theory, except that mail logs show that no
> spam was forwarded through the open relay until it
> appeared on the black hole list.
Or perhaps it wound up on the list just after it started getting abused?
ORDB is run by volunteers, and as such do not have a phonenumber.
You can however contact ORDB using the webpage, and this lets your mail through, no matter whether you're listed or not.
Somebody seem to have fscked up theregister's DNS entries in the co.uk zone
PSI and C&W are both tier-1's, they don't have any transit agreements with others, which means that PSI and C&W customers are entirely cut off from each other at the moment.
Considering that one of the root nameservers is situated at PSI makes the matter even worse.
Am I the only one who finds that Martin Lawrence's attempts at being funny fails miserably each and every time?
Often that _is_ what you want unless you use a search engine on specific subjects (such as scientific articles)
Damned you're helpful to those poor techs.
Jerk.
I've just lost all compassion for our customers, they're in heaven compared to that ;)
Anyone can deliver 100Mbit MANs for $1000 when they obviously don't build on redundant technology...at least they're not multihomed and their primary pipe is down.
Wonder if this will boot it:
cisco 12008/GRP (R5000) processor (revision 0x01) with 131072K bytes of memory.
R5000 CPU at 200Mhz, Implementation 35, Rev 2.1, 512KB L2 Cache
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That's complete BS, ISP's do invest longterm into providing DSL to the prices you see currently.
Take it from one who actually does the calculations.
Oh...and take a look at my tld...I'm not American
I am aware he isn't the right Bruce. And I'm also aware, that you've already got DSL, so it never could be you.
But...to get back to the point, DSL is a huge investment to the Service Provider, which is why the geographic area is carefully selected.
There might be, but really....most of the config can be done centrally (That's my job right now), and to install the copper-loop doesn't require a University degree :)
There has, for a while been a generic shortage of components resulting in long delays of DSL and other network equipment
You obviously don't have any idea of what equipment transporting these amounts of data costs. And how expensive it is to set up a local DSL-POP.
bottm-line: broadband-services costs more money than consumers are willing to pay, and since this is a market-driven world, that will only change when either of two happens:
1. People are willing to pay more to get more
2. Prices on equipment drop
Actually Cisco is able to MUX 128 channels in a fibre, with 10GigE coming around the corner it's beginning to sound interesting :)
Take a look at this and this, which is a live demo of the products involved (even though they're only pulling OC192 in that demo)
This just goes to show that you really need a clue as to what bandwidth costs
But what about the things we are fighting for in the rest of the world, like privacy?
Doubleclick or others could just put their databases out there and we couldn't touch them.
(If the theory about Sealand being a sovereign nation holds through of course)
Ironic since Cisco has just finished acquiring Arrowpoint, and my guess is that they'll implement the Arrowpoint code in....none other than the 65xx series....pretty ironic ;)
> The internet was designed to be resistant to assault (nuclear or conventional) by rerouting around missing routers. Given the huge percentage of trafic going through Mae East and Mae West I would be sorta surprised if a well placed conventional attack couldn't all but deystroy it.
Hi, my name is Andreas, I come from a different part of the world than the US. You might have heard of it? It's called Europe.
For once I'd wish that people start realizing that more and more Internet traffic stays within the respective countries borders. The US is not what the internet is all about anymore.