Hahaha! WHile you bastards were rushing to bash and defend BeOS, you all neglected to get FP, so I do posthumously declare First Post.
However, since I am in no hurry to compose this particular first post...
Desktop Linux is UNRESPONSIVE. It's great on the server end, because it neglects the end user. BeOS caters and pampers the end user. "Power users" tend to eventually sift into two camps: those who desire convenience, and those who desire power. BeOS is the ideal nexus of UNIX command line and silky Mac GUI, but with thread handling that puts everything else to shame.
I think Linux d00ds don't like BeOS because they can't run seven different incompatible desktops on it. Most of the people who bleat about Open Source (tm) don't seem to actually write code themselves. Or are there really that many kernal hackers around here? If you think *you* can debug BeOS, give them a call. JLG will put you on in a heartbeat. I don't really see any mention given to how much more difficult it is to program for Linux than it is for BeOS.
There are a few very interesting projects underway right now, including an effort to acquire the rights to do a Black and White port, which seems to have fallen through with the former coders.
Six months from now, Linux is going to look really weak next to BeOS... It already does, to some of us.
Frankly, I'd like to ask the Slashdotters why they feel Linux is intrinsically better than BeOS, or even why Open Source is always a good idea. Granted, I haven't used the latest and greatest installs, but Mandrake was painfully sluggish as a desktop OS. Literally lagging behind any version of Windows... When you consider the POSIX core and easy to program GUI of BeOS, you have to wonder what these fellows know that we don't. I use BeOS because it is enjoyable to use. When I installed Star Office under Linux, there was no indication of where the executable was located. Crikey.
Download the free version of BeOS. Launch about 5 mpeg movies. Then an mp3 or 3. And an Office suite. Then whatever else you want. (That 3D mixer sure is neat.) You don't encounter an hourglass because there is no such concept in the OS. It's always responsive, all the time. As someone who was a long time Amiga user, I can really appreciate this. Even QNX seems to have a leg up on Linux, in regards to responsiveness of the GUI.
The important parts of BeOS are open sourced, anyway... OpenTracker
Just try not to be a Linux snob, because you never know...
Other than that, any discussion of BeOS on Slashdot is to be welcomed, and funny hats off to Hemos for posting a story that is entirely needed and relevant. Anyone want to do a Linux vs. BeOS comparison for an article?
Reliably doing things like this with an elegant interface in 6 meg or so of memory is what sets BeIA apart from other solutions, so far... At least where webpads are concerned.
Cool. My CDTV is my coolest piece of kit now that my Vectrex is dead. (And if you don't count the Video Toaster). I love Be, but the Amiga still rules. Somewhat.
Not so much for this free version, which I appreciate, but for BeOS version 3.64 or whatever. BeOS software is the only software I actually spend money on.
I hear that Wagner, the BeIA (embedded) version of Opera is rather robust and feature-filled. QNX Voyager is nice, but does anyone actually *use* QNX?
You Linux cats should be happy that you are even getting the option of a free Opera browser. AFAIK, BeOS won't be getting 5.0 for a long time... Unless you would get off of your high horses and actually look at what BeOS has to offer... A free, top-notch OS that is EASY to set-up, and a joy to use. Sort of like the Amiga was...
BeOS has Apache, Mozilla, etc. etc, more or less POSIX-compliancy. Every Linux tool could be migrated over to BeOS in a year or so. Oh well, that would only make computing fun again...
Oh yeah, the new BeOS networking upgrade is in beta, with near NetBSD/*nix performance. I expect BeOS to eventually outperform NetBSD...just like Be's OpenGL beta generally outperforms Linux and Windows...
Music fans won about 3 years ago.
Don't weep for the musician. If they care, they want their music to reach as many people as possible, royalties be damned.
Record companies operate a lot like software companies. The talent always gets screwed. I don't hear anyone standing up for the rights of coders WRT software piracy...
Hell, Gortician still manages to make money from mp3.com downloads, CD sales, t-shirts, gigs, etc. Where else would we get so many Indonesian fans but from "illegal" music piracy? Don't bother defending my rights. We *want* to give it away. A lot of other artists feel this way about Napster. We don't want anyone speaking for us, especially conCerning the intentions of releasing our music to the public.
Despite IBMs reticence, and this setback, Crusoe chips continue to be very compelling. The dopest web tablet at Comdex was in Be's suite: a wireless, color, touchscreen web browser that weighed less than two pounds, with a battery life of six hours. It was powered by a Transmeta Crusoe, and was running BeIA. BeIA, of course, is the nicest embedded OS for web devices, packing complete WWW functionality in only 6 meg of memory...
47 Hours per week, plus another 20 reading tech journals and books, 20 more reading/research online, 10 more hours per week mulling over problems in the back of your mind. 100 hours per week seems right.
Philip K. Dick inspired grindcore:
Erm, *pre*cancerous. Any such damage to the lungs is referred to as pre-cancerous lesions, if I remember my "Emperor Wears No Clothes" correctly. The difference is, pot smokers don't actually reach the cancer stage.
Why is that, you ask?
BECAUSE AMERICAN TOBACCO IS RADIOACTIVE!!! Look it up for yourself. Polonium 190. And we've known since the early sixties. What's worse, I hear the use of the nuclear waste fertilizers that cause this are mandated by law...
Check out Bob Marley's story, too...
Austrian Doctor. Doh!
Modded down because I acknowledge there are some rather nice non-Linux solutions?
Pussy.
BeIA
Real Audio, MP3, SSL, CCS, PersonalJava, Javascript, email client and much more in 6 meg.
QNX
Just a damn fast browser. Alebit lacking a few features.
The Linux Internet Appliances seem to take longer to bring to market than the other solutions, at least that is the case with QuBit and a few others. The Linux version will follow the BeIA version by some nine months, I hear.
Slashdot Mirror
Better cancel all death metal, then...
The entire Gortician philosophy is 'If we don't offend you, there's something wrong with you."
Hahaha! WHile you bastards were rushing to bash and defend BeOS, you all neglected to get FP, so I do posthumously declare First Post.
However, since I am in no hurry to compose this particular first post...
Desktop Linux is UNRESPONSIVE. It's great on the server end, because it neglects the end user. BeOS caters and pampers the end user.
"Power users" tend to eventually sift into two camps: those who desire convenience, and those who desire power. BeOS is the ideal nexus of UNIX command line and silky Mac GUI, but with thread handling that puts everything else to shame.
I think Linux d00ds don't like BeOS because they can't run seven different incompatible desktops on it. Most of the people who bleat about Open Source (tm) don't seem to actually write code themselves. Or are there really that many kernal hackers around here? If you think *you* can debug BeOS, give them a call. JLG will put you on in a heartbeat. I don't really see any mention given to how much more difficult it is to program for Linux than it is for BeOS.
There are a few very interesting projects underway right now, including an effort to acquire the rights to do a Black and White port, which seems to have fallen through with the former coders.
Six months from now, Linux is going to look really weak next to BeOS...
It already does, to some of us.
BeOS - Free, Open, Better
OpenTracker
Frankly, I'd like to ask the Slashdotters why they feel Linux is intrinsically better than BeOS, or even why Open Source is always a good idea. Granted, I haven't used the latest and greatest installs, but Mandrake was painfully sluggish as a desktop OS. Literally lagging behind any version of Windows...
When you consider the POSIX core and easy to program GUI of BeOS, you have to wonder what these fellows know that we don't. I use BeOS because it is enjoyable to use. When I installed Star Office under Linux, there was no indication of where the executable was located. Crikey.
Download the free version of BeOS. Launch about 5 mpeg movies. Then an mp3 or 3. And an Office suite. Then whatever else you want. (That 3D mixer sure is neat.) You don't encounter an hourglass because there is no such concept in the OS. It's always responsive, all the time. As someone who was a long time Amiga user, I can really appreciate this. Even QNX seems to have a leg up on Linux, in regards to responsiveness of the GUI.
The important parts of BeOS are open sourced, anyway... OpenTracker
Just try not to be a Linux snob, because you never know...
Other than that, any discussion of BeOS on Slashdot is to be welcomed, and funny hats off to Hemos for posting a story that is entirely needed and relevant. Anyone want to do a Linux vs. BeOS comparison for an article?
Reliably doing things like this with an elegant interface in 6 meg or so of memory is what sets BeIA apart from other solutions, so far...
At least where webpads are concerned.
BeOS/BeIA is also a joy to program for...
Compaq, for one.
Cool. My CDTV is my coolest piece of kit now that my Vectrex is dead. (And if you don't count the Video Toaster). I love Be, but the Amiga still rules. Somewhat.
^^^ What an asshole! ^^^
I wonder if it blocks GORTICIAN...
Not so much for this free version, which I appreciate, but for BeOS version 3.64 or whatever. BeOS software is the only software I actually spend money on.
I hear that Wagner, the BeIA (embedded) version of Opera is rather robust and feature-filled. QNX Voyager is nice, but does anyone actually *use* QNX?
You Linux cats should be happy that you are even getting the option of a free Opera browser. AFAIK, BeOS won't be getting 5.0 for a long time... Unless you would get off of your high horses and actually look at what BeOS has to offer... A free, top-notch OS that is EASY to set-up, and a joy to use. Sort of like the Amiga was...
BeOS has Apache, Mozilla, etc. etc, more or less POSIX-compliancy. Every Linux tool could be migrated over to BeOS in a year or so. Oh well, that would only make computing fun again...
Oh yeah, the new BeOS networking upgrade is in beta, with near NetBSD/*nix performance. I expect BeOS to eventually outperform NetBSD...just like Be's OpenGL beta generally outperforms Linux and Windows...
Oh yeah, Be stock is a steal at $2.00...
They're going to need a 64-bit journaling file system for that one... (BeOS)
vote Libertarian, and not for some leftist Democrats or leftist Republicans, much less the flonking Green Party. Oh well, you kids will never learn...
Libertarian Party
http://www.lp.org
You are so st0n3d. St0n3d and 0wn3d.
Or is that me?
Music fans won about 3 years ago.
Don't weep for the musician. If they care, they want their music to reach as many people as possible, royalties be damned.
Record companies operate a lot like software companies. The talent always gets screwed. I don't hear anyone standing up for the rights of coders WRT software piracy...
Hell, Gortician still manages to make money from mp3.com downloads, CD sales, t-shirts, gigs, etc. Where else would we get so many Indonesian fans but from "illegal" music piracy? Don't bother defending my rights. We *want* to give it away. A lot of other artists feel this way about Napster. We don't want anyone speaking for us, especially conCerning the intentions of releasing our music to the public.
Record labels are gay, anyway.
still couldn't match the power of GORTICIAN.
Despite IBMs reticence, and this setback, Crusoe chips continue to be very compelling. The dopest web tablet at Comdex was in Be's suite: a wireless, color, touchscreen web browser that weighed less than two pounds, with a battery life of six hours. It was powered by a Transmeta Crusoe, and was running BeIA. BeIA, of course, is the nicest embedded OS for web devices, packing complete WWW functionality in only 6 meg of memory...
47 Hours per week, plus another 20 reading tech journals and books, 20 more reading/research online, 10 more hours per week mulling over problems in the back of your mind. 100 hours per week seems right. Philip K. Dick inspired grindcore:
Erm, *pre*cancerous. Any such damage to the lungs is referred to as pre-cancerous lesions, if I remember my "Emperor Wears No Clothes" correctly. The difference is, pot smokers don't actually reach the cancer stage.
Why is that, you ask?
BECAUSE AMERICAN TOBACCO IS RADIOACTIVE!!! Look it up for yourself. Polonium 190. And we've known since the early sixties. What's worse, I hear the use of the nuclear waste fertilizers that cause this are mandated by law...
Check out Bob Marley's story, too...
Austrian Doctor. Doh!
Modded down because I acknowledge there are some rather nice non-Linux solutions?
Pussy.
BeIA
Real Audio, MP3, SSL, CCS, PersonalJava, Javascript, email client and much more in 6 meg.
QNX
Just a damn fast browser. Alebit lacking a few features.
The Linux Internet Appliances seem to take longer to bring to market than the other solutions, at least that is the case with QuBit and a few others. The Linux version will follow the BeIA version by some nine months, I hear.
Information Appliance Comparison by Be, Inc.
Like Gortician gives a fuck.
I'd like to thank the Slashdot Gortician appreciation society for their continued involvement... And you know I have a much bigger dick than you...
Suck on this...
Fuck the Communists (w/ full facial)
Death Metal for Geeks