I think Be, Inc. pays almost $2 Million a year in licensing fees (Mp3, Font Engine, Intel Stuff). Do you really think we can scrape that together each year?
You're right, BeOS can't die, and it won't. I have people on the inside. If they sink, we can have the source...
It takes about 1 minute to get 2 BeOS machines to connect via a network, starting from scratch. Another 2 minutes or so, if you want to set up a web server. There are no viruses, almost 0 security holes. And it prints fine to all of the Laserjets at school...
Face it, Linux may dominate, but it is far outclassed by BeOS. And if you don't agree, you haven't used the two of them.
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If any of you leet hax0rs can get Linux to work with OpenTracker, and make the underlying bits a bit more cool, like BeOS is, the two togther would own the computing desktop forever. But most of you only bitch about it not being Open Source, when you can't actually hack at the kernel level...
Erm, they changed business plans for a number of very good reasons. And little BeOS/BeIA is quickly becoming the favorite of OEM Internet Appliance manufacturers, as well as high-end audio and video workstation manufacturers. I guess your comments show how little you actually know.
HTH
It would be really easy for the real G hackers to bootfuck the FBI, IRS by writing viruses that target specific systems. Hell, I could do it if I wasn't so lazy.
Everyone knows the mega-capitalists of the late 1800s and early 1900s (J.P. Morgan, Rockefellers, That German banker family) gave Lenin and Trotsky $10 million in gold to seize power in Russia. Inf fact, the Rockefellers oil fields (Standard Oil) in Russia were never nationalized!
Now having control of the U.S. and a fake Superpower, they then implemented tax-free foundations, to protect their massive wealth, and the income tax, to prevent any others from obtaining massive amounts of wealth.
So they proceed to milk and rape us for a century or so. Little things like us giving millions in "non-lethal aid" (fucking truck tires!) to the U.S.S.R. DURING the Vietnam war! These supplies were then brought into northern Vietnam and used against our own troops. It is plainly obvious to anyone with a brain that we have propped Russia up for the past 40 years, all the while claiming to fear them. They's still starve without us. The fucking Russians still sweep the streets with brooms made of sticks. Can't operate complex machinery like Pasteurization machines. Yet, they developed atomic weapons in parallel with us? Only by our providing the blueprints and technologies.
Bilderburger Group? Wake up, you dumb fucking Slashdotters. Some of you have mad skills, and you're chowned like the rest of us. 39% tax bracket? 50% tax on corporations? Uttery fucking owned by the state. Ayn Rand was right, most of you are mindless drones.
American tobacco contains ionizing radiation. Mandated by law! The fertilizers are radioactive by-products. Look it up, polonium-190? Even imported tobacco is from the U.S. (Drum, Samson). Lead in cigarettes? Why?
Keep feeding the parasitical Freemason, Rockefeller world government, run by the moron son of a megaspook. I'll keep smoking dope, coding, and playing music. You can keep the funny money.
Let them move to Open Source. Then wipe them the fuck out.
Throwing mad polygons is nice, but much of the processing in raytracing is done with the CPU, not the graphics chip. Yeah, real-time raytracing would be nice. I've seen it done on a stock Amiga 500, to some degree. But there's not a lot more we can do with television resolution beyond that. Physics and detailed simulations will become important soon, until we all have HDTVs.
752 x 480 is about it, or is it? Focus has a new chip set for scaling down 1024 x 768 PC output to TV resolution while keeping detail and clarity. (Press Release). From what I can see, Sony is planning on using this chipset. Combine the three, and you have the makings of a nice rumor: Playstation 3 running BeOS, with web connectivity. Then there is the Nintendo/Be rumour camp...
The basic idea is that if BeOS is ported to such consoles, they instantly become programmable in OO C++/OpenGL. No learning curve for developers, and no hurdles to porting apps.
Be, Inc. just announced CJK character set in only 1 meg of flash ram via Bitstream. This of course includes right to left functionality, if I'm not mistaken. Hebrew is just a character set away (and a lot smaller in file size). This is the sort of thing that will be crucial in the IA market, so you Linux boys had better get on it. You don't have a good old Poppa JLG to buy you the pricey solutions...
Linux needs solutions that avoid duplication of effort, I think.
Actually, if you think about it, it would make a LOT of sense for the PS2's net capabilites to come from BeIA, just like the Evilla. One support system instead of two, etc. I really don't see Sony creating two separate infrastructures that do the same thing. In other words, the BeOS/PS2 announcement is probably a few months away, at most.
By shakey, I think he meant 'crappy', not 'unstable'. The installations I've toyed with were very unpleasant from an end-user perspective. The response time could be measured in seconds. StarOffice should get an icon or a menu entry somewhere, after installation. Devices are incredibly difficult to set up. To me, Linux is the proverbial dog riding the bicycle, interesting because it exists, not that it's particularly good (ON THE DESKTOP). BeOS, on the other hand, is rather like the Heart of Gold, still idling in the garage.
There are a number of folxen at Be, Inc. that support the Free Software movement. Indeed, OpenTracker and another site provide the source for the main portions of BeOS, the Tracker and Deskbar. While improvements have made it back to the source tree at Be, it has amounted to at most a few weeks of work. It's not like BeOS is bug-ridden. It's probably been rewritten 6 times by now. The coming BeOS upgrade is not hyped, not even real in the minds of some people, but it will be a complete desktop solution, with greatly improved connectivity and stunning OpenGL performance.
On the other hand, the true promise of BeOS is becoming apparent in the form of apps like Inferno (image editor that allows for any of the painting tools
to be replaced), PersonalStudio from Adamation (DV Editing for $49), and even a Japanese DV app that no one in the U.S. knows how to use, yet.
Be, Inc. is really starting to kick ass in new markets in all sorts of places. Rather than fostering animosity between Gnu/Linux/BSD etc users and the very Amiga-scene-like BeOS crowd, I'd like to see more multi-platform releases. Neverwinter Nights (?) is going to be the first multi-platform game, if it's delivered, making up somewhat for the disappointing yanking of Black and White out of our clutches.
Anyway, I'm going to pricewatch for an external modem. BeOS full-time, here I come.
Yes, it's a mockup. There is a link in the comments on Benews.com to a page that examines this. I don't think that matters in the least, though. People won't be paying $500 for a mockup... Just like Linux, BeIA has to survive on its own merits. As someone somewhat close to Be, I am supremely confident that this thing will be even cooler than they say it is...
I read your whole story, and I don't see what's so outrageous. Sony should listen to you because Be Developers kicked you off of their mailing list? It is to laugh...
they arent going to even have more than three people working on the beos at a time anymore
I can assure you they have more than three employees working on their products. Or are these three people just INCREDIBLY talented? I suppose that Memory Stick code integrated itself?
BeOS and BeIA share the same codebed. Whatever features get added to one will eventually be added to the other, for the most part.
BeIA is what is allowing Be to improve the desktop OS. They haven't abandoned anything. Had they focused on the desktop, as you suggest, they would be bankrupt. Think about it.
BTW, vendors are turning to BeIA because "free" Linux costs too much to modify, and it lacks the performance of BeOS/BeIA.
This is the one area where M$ has a supreme disadvantage. Compare the features of the IA OS's. BeIA > Linux > M$.
This thing seems to meet your requirements, sans Bluetooth: Orbit. And yes, of course it runs BeIA
From the site:
______________________________________
The Web Tablet allows customers to access information in ways that best fit their lives.
Lightweight, the Web Tablet weighs less than 3 lbs.
Displays a bright 800x600 touch screen
Roams up to 200 feet from base transmitter
Delivers fast, 802.11B RF connectivity
Includes an onscreen keyboard and wireless keyboard
______________________________________
Be also announced a deal with Ricochet several months ago...
One MC to rule them all
One MC to find them
One MC to bring them all
And in the darkness bind them...
Mr. Bungle, Cirith Ungol
I kick the shit from here to the motherfuckin Jungle
Crazy shit from the top of my head
Cuz I write the rhymes that'll Raise the Dead
Watch your front when steppin' to me, cuz
I'll stab your ass, just for a free buzz
Death trippin', the blood steady drippin'
Gotta send a shout out to Sam, Frodo & Pippin
On a mission, straight Gortician
Talk some shit and in your face I'm pissin'
The funky plumber, comin' like a Hummer
Cuz you know High-C just gets Dumb and Dumber
At The Gates of Cirith Gorgor
Steppin straight into Mordor
I get wicked like Sauron, bringin' chaos to order
Break beat poet, for ten years I flow it
You can't tell me shit because I already know it
1 percenter, political dissenter
El Duce was my motherfuckin Mentor
Mind blowin', Angry Samoan
I get high and then the funk starts flowin'
You fuckin' zombies need to wake the fuck up
You think you're the shit but I think you suck
Weak-minded, you're blinded by the blight
Sayin' I'm Guilty of Being White
My ancestors didn't own no slaves
The whole tired argument is oh so played
Face facts, we all get taxed
But like Possessed I'm fuckin' swingin' the axe
Grindin' up sacred cows
And now you know High-C's in the motherfuckin house...
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Since when has GIVING YOUR PRODUCT AWAY ever been a good business decision?
I think Be, Inc. pays almost $2 Million a year in licensing fees (Mp3, Font Engine, Intel Stuff). Do you really think we can scrape that together each year?
You're right, BeOS can't die, and it won't. I have people on the inside. If they sink, we can have the source...
It takes about 1 minute to get 2 BeOS machines to connect via a network, starting from scratch. Another 2 minutes or so, if you want to set up a web server. There are no viruses, almost 0 security holes. And it prints fine to all of the Laserjets at school...
Face it, Linux may dominate, but it is far outclassed by BeOS. And if you don't agree, you haven't used the two of them.
If any of you leet hax0rs can get Linux to work with OpenTracker, and make the underlying bits a bit more cool, like BeOS is, the two togther would own the computing desktop forever. But most of you only bitch about it not being Open Source, when you can't actually hack at the kernel level...
Be, Inc. Readies BeOS XP
Sooo much nicer than KDE or Gnome...
Send out emails entitled "I send you this file for your advice". And watch the morons freak out.
They lose more good writers that way...
Everything2.com will never be a success as long as they weakly delete nodes out of spite...
Fuckheads.
Erm, they changed business plans for a number of very good reasons. And little BeOS/BeIA is quickly becoming the favorite of OEM Internet Appliance manufacturers, as well as high-end audio and video workstation manufacturers. I guess your comments show how little you actually know. HTH
It would be really easy for the real G hackers to bootfuck the FBI, IRS by writing viruses that target specific systems. Hell, I could do it if I wasn't so lazy.
Everyone knows the mega-capitalists of the late 1800s and early 1900s (J.P. Morgan, Rockefellers, That German banker family) gave Lenin and Trotsky $10 million in gold to seize power in Russia. Inf fact, the Rockefellers oil fields (Standard Oil) in Russia were never nationalized!
Now having control of the U.S. and a fake Superpower, they then implemented tax-free foundations, to protect their massive wealth, and the income tax, to prevent any others from obtaining massive amounts of wealth.
So they proceed to milk and rape us for a century or so. Little things like us giving millions in "non-lethal aid" (fucking truck tires!) to the U.S.S.R. DURING the Vietnam war! These supplies were then brought into northern Vietnam and used against our own troops. It is plainly obvious to anyone with a brain that we have propped Russia up for the past 40 years, all the while claiming to fear them. They's still starve without us.
The fucking Russians still sweep the streets with brooms made of sticks. Can't operate complex machinery like Pasteurization machines. Yet, they developed atomic weapons in parallel with us? Only by our providing the blueprints and technologies.
Bilderburger Group? Wake up, you dumb fucking Slashdotters. Some of you have mad skills, and you're chowned like the rest of us. 39% tax bracket? 50% tax on corporations? Uttery fucking owned by the state. Ayn Rand was right, most of you are mindless drones.
American tobacco contains ionizing radiation. Mandated by law! The fertilizers are radioactive by-products. Look it up, polonium-190? Even imported tobacco is from the U.S. (Drum, Samson). Lead in cigarettes? Why?
Keep feeding the parasitical Freemason, Rockefeller world government, run by the moron son of a megaspook. I'll keep smoking dope, coding, and playing music. You can keep the funny money.
Let them move to Open Source. Then wipe them the fuck out.
Throwing mad polygons is nice, but much of the processing in raytracing is done with the CPU, not the graphics chip. Yeah, real-time raytracing would be nice. I've seen it done on a stock Amiga 500, to some degree. But there's not a lot more we can do with television resolution beyond that. Physics and detailed simulations will become important soon, until we all have HDTVs.
752 x 480 is about it, or is it? Focus has a new chip set for scaling down 1024 x 768 PC output to TV resolution while keeping detail and clarity. (Press Release). From what I can see, Sony is planning on using this chipset. Combine the three, and you have the makings of a nice rumor: Playstation 3 running BeOS, with web connectivity. Then there is the Nintendo/Be rumour camp...
The basic idea is that if BeOS is ported to such consoles, they instantly become programmable in OO C++/OpenGL. No learning curve for developers, and no hurdles to porting apps.
Be, Inc. just announced CJK character set in only 1 meg of flash ram via Bitstream. This of course includes right to left functionality, if I'm not mistaken. Hebrew is just a character set away (and a lot smaller in file size). This is the sort of thing that will be crucial in the IA market, so you Linux boys had better get on it. You don't have a good old Poppa JLG to buy you the pricey solutions...
Linux needs solutions that avoid duplication of effort, I think.
Actually, if you think about it, it would make a LOT of sense for the PS2's net capabilites to come from BeIA, just like the Evilla. One support system instead of two, etc. I really don't see Sony creating two separate infrastructures that do the same thing. In other words, the BeOS/PS2 announcement is probably a few months away, at most.
Typo Link: http://www.evila.com/ Hahaha. Thanks, Sony.
By shakey, I think he meant 'crappy', not 'unstable'. The installations I've toyed with were very unpleasant from an end-user perspective. The response time could be measured in seconds. StarOffice should get an icon or a menu entry somewhere, after installation. Devices are incredibly difficult to set up. To me, Linux is the proverbial dog riding the bicycle, interesting because it exists, not that it's particularly good (ON THE DESKTOP). BeOS, on the other hand, is rather like the Heart of Gold, still idling in the garage.
There are a number of folxen at Be, Inc. that support the Free Software movement. Indeed, OpenTracker and another site provide the source for the main portions of BeOS, the Tracker and Deskbar.
While improvements have made it back to the source tree at Be, it has amounted to at most a few weeks of work. It's not like BeOS is bug-ridden. It's probably been rewritten 6 times by now. The coming BeOS upgrade is not hyped, not even real in the minds of some people, but it will be a complete desktop solution, with greatly improved connectivity and stunning OpenGL performance.
On the other hand, the true promise of BeOS is becoming apparent in the form of apps like Inferno (image editor that allows for any of the painting tools to be replaced), PersonalStudio from Adamation (DV Editing for $49), and even a Japanese DV app that no one in the U.S. knows how to use, yet.
Be, Inc. is really starting to kick ass in new markets in all sorts of places. Rather than fostering animosity between Gnu/Linux/BSD etc users and the very Amiga-scene-like BeOS crowd, I'd like to see more multi-platform releases. Neverwinter Nights (?) is going to be the first multi-platform game, if it's delivered, making up somewhat for the disappointing yanking of Black and White out of our clutches.
Anyway, I'm going to pricewatch for an external modem. BeOS full-time, here I come.
Sounds like that POS Everything2.com... The Slashdot moderation system is perfect. I do like the idea of readers voting on the queue.
Yes, it's a mockup. There is a link in the comments on Benews.com to a page that examines this. I don't think that matters in the least, though. People won't be paying $500 for a mockup... Just like Linux, BeIA has to survive on its own merits. As someone somewhat close to Be, I am supremely confident that this thing will be even cooler than they say it is...
I read your whole story, and I don't see what's so outrageous. Sony should listen to you because Be Developers kicked you off of their mailing list? It is to laugh...
What is there to backup? It does email and WWW. The OS is stored on a flashrom. KISS at its best...
As I understand it, BeOS runs under VMWare now, but only in black and white...
My installation has crashed once, ever. Please psot proof or shut the fuck up, as they say...
they arent going to even have more than three people working on the beos at a time anymore
I can assure you they have more than three employees working on their products. Or are these three people just INCREDIBLY talented? I suppose that Memory Stick code integrated itself?
BeOS and BeIA share the same codebed. Whatever features get added to one will eventually be added to the other, for the most part.
Oh, how the FUD flows...
BeIA is what is allowing Be to improve the desktop OS. They haven't abandoned anything. Had they focused on the desktop, as you suggest, they would be bankrupt. Think about it.
BTW, vendors are turning to BeIA because "free" Linux costs too much to modify, and it lacks the performance of BeOS/BeIA.
This is the one area where M$ has a supreme disadvantage. Compare the features of the IA OS's. BeIA > Linux > M$.
This thing seems to meet your requirements, sans Bluetooth: Orbit. And yes, of course it runs BeIA
From the site:
______________________________________
The Web Tablet allows customers to access information in ways that best fit their lives.
Lightweight, the Web Tablet weighs less than 3 lbs.
Displays a bright 800x600 touch screen
Roams up to 200 feet from base transmitter
Delivers fast, 802.11B RF connectivity
Includes an onscreen keyboard and wireless keyboard
______________________________________
Be also announced a deal with Ricochet several months ago...
"Lord of the Token Ring"
One MC to rule them all
One MC to find them
One MC to bring them all
And in the darkness bind them...
Mr. Bungle, Cirith Ungol
I kick the shit from here to the motherfuckin Jungle
Crazy shit from the top of my head
Cuz I write the rhymes that'll Raise the Dead
Watch your front when steppin' to me, cuz
I'll stab your ass, just for a free buzz
Death trippin', the blood steady drippin'
Gotta send a shout out to Sam, Frodo & Pippin
On a mission, straight Gortician
Talk some shit and in your face I'm pissin'
The funky plumber, comin' like a Hummer
Cuz you know High-C just gets Dumb and Dumber
At The Gates of Cirith Gorgor
Steppin straight into Mordor
I get wicked like Sauron, bringin' chaos to order
Break beat poet, for ten years I flow it
You can't tell me shit because I already know it
1 percenter, political dissenter
El Duce was my motherfuckin Mentor
Mind blowin', Angry Samoan
I get high and then the funk starts flowin'
You fuckin' zombies need to wake the fuck up
You think you're the shit but I think you suck
Weak-minded, you're blinded by the blight
Sayin' I'm Guilty of Being White
My ancestors didn't own no slaves
The whole tired argument is oh so played
Face facts, we all get taxed
But like Possessed I'm fuckin' swingin' the axe
Grindin' up sacred cows
And now you know High-C's in the motherfuckin house...
J00 think J00 can 0utrhyme m3?
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Snuh Snuh Meow Gortician Meow Snuh
Digimation is a good Metarie, La based company... World's most prolific developers of 3DS plug-ins...
The same idiots who would ban "racist" music would ban Cannibal Corpse as "sexist" or Deicide as "satanic"...