"It just proves there are too many people making decisions about things they dont understand."
And your post proves you haven't got a clue. The bill is being proposed by the NSW Labor government. Keep your reflex coalition bashing for other forums.
Let's push the analogy a little further, what you see with malignant port scans isn't just a knock on the door, it's a knock on the door followed by rattling all the windows to see if they're locked and climbing on the roof to see if you can get in through the attic. The pattern and persistance of the scans is what defines the intent.
"If port scanning is illegal, so should looking at someone's house, roof, lawn, doors, windows, etc... "
I'd compare port sacnning to wandering across that lawn and checking to see whether the doors and windows are locked. You might just be worried about my security and safety but see how far you get telling it to the police.
"Just once I would like to see a movie on the Battle of Britian --- without the US being center, but based on the RAF who defended the british coast with their lives."
Funnily enough it's called The Battle of Britain. The closest thing it has to an American is Christopher Plummer as a Canadian.
Bull, no ad campaign, no matter how great it is can make me buy a crap product more than once. I don't care how great the ad's are coke is just overpriced fizzy brown sugar water and it can stay in the drinks cooler. On the other hand an irritating or obtrusive ad campaign can and has led me to not buy the product being advertised and indeed anything made by that company.
"There was a probably apocryphal story I was told many years ago by the then editor of a big SF mag."
It's not apocryphal, back in the 80's I used to have Friday drinks at a SF bookshop here in Perth and it was not unusual to see scientologists come in and buy new Battlefield Earth releases by the armload.
They're pursuing it becaue they have no choice. Since Job's return Apple competes on a design rather than technological basis. Look and feel is all they have left. Apple is no longer a computer company it's a desk accessory manufacturer.
I agree its a fake but I took one look at the.50 calibre pistol
http://www.birdman.org/images/m82pistbig.jpg
And I don't care. I want one, dammit I need one.
"I would have to agree. Unless this is made mandatory by government (or other) fiat, it will fail absolutely."
Let us assume that the people behind this scheme buy enough US congress-critters and senators to have it made manditory in the US, what happens to the rest of the world? Are they going to be forced to go along with the scheme or will you see countries with strong customer protection laws telling them to piss up a rope. To give an example if Australia, my country, says to the hard drive and software manufacturers your scheme is illegal the two choices seem to be Australia is isolated from the rest of the world and is cut off from future developments or manufacturers supply non protected hard drives and software to the Australian market. I don't see the first as being probable and if the second eventuates how do you prevent the influx of "Australian Standard"drives and software into other markets?
Come off it I'm not that sure the French are human, never mind European. In the words of Rommel "it's a great place to fight a war but I'd hate to have to live there"
I'm tired of all those "you have the choice" posts...
It's my contention that there's something fundamentally wrong with the whole idea of television. It doesn't matter how many channels you have at any given there is still at least a 97% probability that there is nothing worth watching on. Depending on which plan you use pay TV is either a waste of money or a grotesque waste of money. Make your choice trash the box.
AgoraBasta has, inadvertently I'm sure, illustrated the strenghth of the English language. Despite his posts bizarre structure and grammar it is understandable. I doubt that many other languages could take this sort of treatment and still be readable.
Unfortunately Gore can lo longer afford to back out. If he had conceded after the recount he might have been in with a chance in 4 years time (assuming Hills in jail with Bill). The last few weeks of sleaze and manipulation by the Democrats have ensured that this will not happen. The corruption of the system has been so overt and so widespread that he must fight to the bitter end to try and prevent a Republican president appointing the next Atorny General and head of the FBI. Assuming Bush retains the presidency we may be witnessing the end of the Democrat machine.
How could the money get to the artist? How can they discern who or what is being copied? I am a blues/jazz fan, you like Grgorian chant and Fred down the road is into rap. Who decides where our fees go and how do they distribute it fairly?
I think your getting Oz mixed up with New Zeland where last year, if memory serves, they managed to black out all of Wellington by frying their main power cable into the CBD.
Haven't American Excess already done something like this? If I remember correctly they said they wouldn't be accepting buisness from any "adult" sites because of all the problems over credit card fraud and disputed billing.
"It's a good beer by USA standards"
Hardly a valid point 3 year old yak urine would be a good beer by USA standards. US brewers are the spawn of satan.
The net community and the government came to a tacit agreement. They'd pretend that their censorship regime was in place and working and we promised not to laugh out loud.
The answer is best put this way. What right do they have to gather this information in the first place? I don't particularly care what they say they're going to do with it.
Wouldn't a normal wash/dry cycle contain enough abuse to disable the RF tag?
Maybe they can bring out a new line in washing machines with a wash/dry/EMP cycle? Just remember not to take your credit cards into the laundry.
The Mog is basically a military vehicle. The ADF use them and they're almost impossible to tip.
"It just proves there are too many people making decisions about things they dont understand."
And your post proves you haven't got a clue. The bill is being proposed by the NSW Labor government. Keep your reflex coalition bashing for other forums.
Or to quote his doctor "No Richard I said herbal suppositories".
Let's push the analogy a little further, what you see with malignant port scans isn't just a knock on the door, it's a knock on the door followed by rattling all the windows to see if they're locked and climbing on the roof to see if you can get in through the attic. The pattern and persistance of the scans is what defines the intent.
"If port scanning is illegal, so should looking at someone's house, roof, lawn, doors, windows, etc... "
I'd compare port sacnning to wandering across that lawn and checking to see whether the doors and windows are locked. You might just be worried about my security and safety but see how far you get telling it to the police.
"Just once I would like to see a movie on the Battle of Britian --- without the US being center, but based on the RAF who defended the british coast with their lives."
Funnily enough it's called The Battle of Britain. The closest thing it has to an American is Christopher Plummer as a Canadian.
"Any publicity is good publicity"
Bull, no ad campaign, no matter how great it is can make me buy a crap product more than once. I don't care how great the ad's are coke is just overpriced fizzy brown sugar water and it can stay in the drinks cooler. On the other hand an irritating or obtrusive ad campaign can and has led me to not buy the product being advertised and indeed anything made by that company.
"There was a probably apocryphal story I was told many years ago by the then editor of a big SF mag."
It's not apocryphal, back in the 80's I used to have Friday drinks at a SF bookshop here in Perth and it was not unusual to see scientologists come in and buy new Battlefield Earth releases by the armload.
Gosh, I seem to have hurt a mac users feelings, oh bother
They're pursuing it becaue they have no choice. Since Job's return Apple competes on a design rather than technological basis. Look and feel is all they have left. Apple is no longer a computer company it's a desk accessory manufacturer.
I agree its a fake but I took one look at the .50 calibre pistol
http://www.birdman.org/images/m82pistbig.jpg
And I don't care. I want one, dammit I need one.
I'd also commend to your attention the first chapters of Starship Troopers by RAH.
"I would have to agree. Unless this is made mandatory by government (or other) fiat, it will fail absolutely."
Let us assume that the people behind this scheme buy enough US congress-critters and senators to have it made manditory in the US, what happens to the rest of the world? Are they going to be forced to go along with the scheme or will you see countries with strong customer protection laws telling them to piss up a rope. To give an example if Australia, my country, says to the hard drive and software manufacturers your scheme is illegal the two choices seem to be Australia is isolated from the rest of the world and is cut off from future developments or manufacturers supply non protected hard drives and software to the Australian market. I don't see the first as being probable and if the second eventuates how do you prevent the influx of "Australian Standard"drives and software into other markets?
French people are Europeans?
Come off it I'm not that sure the French are human, never mind European. In the words of Rommel "it's a great place to fight a war but I'd hate to have to live there"
I'm tired of all those "you have the choice" posts...
It's my contention that there's something fundamentally wrong with the whole idea of television. It doesn't matter how many channels you have at any given there is still at least a 97% probability that there is nothing worth watching on. Depending on which plan you use pay TV is either a waste of money or a grotesque waste of money. Make your choice trash the box.
AgoraBasta has, inadvertently I'm sure, illustrated the strenghth of the English language. Despite his posts bizarre structure and grammar it is understandable. I doubt that many other languages could take this sort of treatment and still be readable.
"First the French complain about the corruption of their language, now the Spanish"
Tell them they're not real lnguages anyway. All they are is badly pronounced provincial latin.
Unfortunately Gore can lo longer afford to back out. If he had conceded after the recount he might have been in with a chance in 4 years time (assuming Hills in jail with Bill). The last few weeks of sleaze and manipulation by the Democrats have ensured that this will not happen. The corruption of the system has been so overt and so widespread that he must fight to the bitter end to try and prevent a Republican president appointing the next Atorny General and head of the FBI. Assuming Bush retains the presidency we may be witnessing the end of the Democrat machine.
How could the money get to the artist? How can they discern who or what is being copied? I am a blues/jazz fan, you like Grgorian chant and Fred down the road is into rap. Who decides where our fees go and how do they distribute it fairly?
I think your getting Oz mixed up with New Zeland where last year, if memory serves, they managed to black out all of Wellington by frying their main power cable into the CBD.
Haven't American Excess already done something like this? If I remember correctly they said they wouldn't be accepting buisness from any "adult" sites because of all the problems over credit card fraud and disputed billing.
"It's a good beer by USA standards" Hardly a valid point 3 year old yak urine would be a good beer by USA standards. US brewers are the spawn of satan.
The net community and the government came to a tacit agreement. They'd pretend that their censorship regime was in place and working and we promised not to laugh out loud.
The answer is best put this way. What right do they have to gather this information in the first place? I don't particularly care what they say they're going to do with it.
Wouldn't a normal wash/dry cycle contain enough abuse to disable the RF tag? Maybe they can bring out a new line in washing machines with a wash/dry/EMP cycle? Just remember not to take your credit cards into the laundry.