Slavery is slavery whether it is recognized or not. It is or it is not. Either someone is owned by someone else or they are not. This is not subjective and not subject to the view of a person or a culture and has nothing to do with being enlightened, or not. People had stone tools because they had stone tools. Had nothing to do with us having electricity and being enlightened about tools.
China is a culture of theft when it comes to intellectual property because they are a culture of theft of intellectual property. It is an objective reality and has nothing to do with perception.
It's business, nothing more nothing less. They're hungry and there are soft targets ripe for the taking. Sorry I don't share your viewpoint on this one -
In Africa where slavery was rampant long before whites came, there were no laws against slavery...and yet there was slavery. In ancient Greece, Egypt and elsewhere slavery was legal, and yet still it remained slavery.
Lack of a law against something does not change that it still objectively exists. Where a culture does not deny or even promotes something, be it slavery or the theft of intellectual property, that culture defines itself. Ancient Greece was a culture, in part, of slavery. China is a culture, in part, of theft.
In other words, no LEGAL sense of protected IP. That is starting to change, slowly, as the world gets wired up, but it will take a while. Another way to say this is that many, many people in China have no problem with lifting someone else IP, because that's the way things have always been. btw, this doesn't make China a thieving culture, but rather a culture where there have been no strictures embedded in civil code to prevent this sort of thing. This is one more reason why international companies need to be cautious with IP in China, and understand how to play hard ball when they have IP stolen.
That's like saying the Somali pirates aren't pirates because there's nothing in their culture that makes it wrong. There shouldn't have to be laws for people not to steal, and people who steal are thieves whether there's a law saying so or not.
Every rigorous study funded by whom? Remember when every rigorous study of smoking showed that it was perfectly safe?
You seem immediately ready to disregard THIS particular study that might go against what are most likely industry funded studies that show that fracking is safe.
...five more reports claiming that fracking has nothing at all to do with seismic events which will serve as the justification for the upcoming change of leadership of the USGS.
"I don't think much progress will be made in that regard as long as Obama is in office--he's demonstrated that he's more than happy to embrace warrantless surveillance of all kinds."...as if any of the other mainstream politicians would be any better.
Was out riding bikes with my family yesterday, came to a park where there had been a bicycle accident. Some guy maybe 20 had hurt himself doing a stunt. The emergency medical services were there. Three of them. The kid had pain in his leg and abdomen. They took their time professionally examining him, then brought him to the hospital.
Interesting points:
- the SAMU (emergency medical unit) has actual doctors (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergency_medical_services_in_France)
- the cost of this will be almost completely covered by social security even though he'll get top notch care
Can't say for the waiting time at the hospital but yes, triage is triage. That being I hurt my eye once a couple of years ago, had to go to the hospital. They took me in immediately, saw an optometrist within about fifteen minutes and was out the door in forty five. It was a Sunday. Total cost to me, 35 euros.
I'm an American living in France. Just before I came over, some eight years ago, I had my teeth cleaned by a place in NJ. Nice clinic, very clean, very professional, very busy, very big. No idea how many dentists there were there but I'm sure there were quite a few. They cleaned my teeth and told me I needed 2,000 dollars worth of work in my mouth between two root canals at 400 dollars each and a few cavities.
Came to France the next month on a visit. Saw a local dentist. Clean place, one dentist, very calm and quiet, very professional. Told me that yes I needed a root canal (one) and that the rest was nothing urgent. Charged me 50 euros, so about 40 dollars at the current rate.
My wife had my baby son there in France a few months later in a private clinic. A clinic that charged us about 2,000 (yes only three zeros) for a four day stay including the actual birth and a few days after just because that's fairly standard. Not sure what that would cost in the US as it changes depending on which slice you're in (title 19 free govt medical insurance (lowest charges by the medical establishment due to price setting by the govt), private insurance (next lowest charges by the medical establishment due to negotiation by insurance companies) or no insurance (you're fucked, sell the house).
My experience is that while large companies will use Asian companies for some portion of their network, it's never any of the important parts. Let's break this article down a bit.
"Rivers says. “With the traditional enterprise networking vendors, they just couldn’t get there. The cost was too high, and the systems were too closed to be manageable on a network of that size.”"
Note that the first and only real point is 'cost'. The rest is bullshit.
"The Ciscos and the Force10s build their gear with many of those same manufacturers. Google removed the middlemen."...goes very well with the spin term "“original design manufacturers,” or ODMs". More bullshit.
"Now, the other giants of the web are running into the same issues, and they too are going straight to Asia for hardware."
Presumably the real issue being cost of course. The western manufacturers of course have addressed every other issue that comes up as these are (were?) their biggest customers.
"As J.R. Rivers serves this market with Cumulus Networks, James Liao is doing much the same thing with a second startup called Pica8, offering networking gear that comes straight from the ODMs."
In other words these guys are trying to sell the Asian kit in the west and are trying to show that it's not crap because the biggest companies are using it. There may be a reason that this is "...one of the best-kept secrets in Silicon Valley." it may be mostly bullshit.
"Martin Casado — the chief technology officier of a third Silicon Valley networking startup, Nicira — confirms that the hardware market is shifting to Asia."
Gee..yet another interested party saying that everyone is shifting.
I stopped reading because the rest is about these startup guys that kicked off the article.
I don't know...is it proven? Haven't seen anything to this effect but if you have sources I'm open to reading them.
I can believe it from the perspective that wealth implies some level of security (though America is failing with regard to infant mortality compared to other developing nations).
You're making the erroneous assumption that my assumption is erroneous:-) Couldn't resist saying it even though I am not sure where you got your analysis from as I've said nothing of the kind.
I'm not assuming that increasing the food supply would do anything other than keeping a few more people in the country from going hungry, thus allowing the population to increase by some degree, thus increasing the demand for food, thus raising the price of food, thus having some number of people going hungry.
I'm not concerned about their population density. Obviously it could be higher.
I'm saying that because they tend not to use birth control, and tend to have as many children as possible, demand for the food would increase linearly with the production of the food.
From an economics standpoint, supply would go up but demand would also go up, pushed by local demand due to an increased population along with the exporting of the food to those who can pay more. What you purport can only happen if demand remains stable - either by restricting exports or by...birth control.
Can't do anything about China (and others) breaking into every system they can...okay, let's hit our own citizens hard because we can then at least we can say that we're doing SOMETHING about the 'hacking problem'.
Just like Intellectual Property and counterfeit producs. Can't get the real problems solved, hit those within reach.
"The mandatory minimum sentence should be zero in ALL crimes."
I have to disagree? What about murder and rape? I think that society has a need to set a minimum sentence for such violent crimes to ensure that those who perpetrate them are off the streets for whatever amount of time.
That being said, I don't think that hacking, which has a hugely broad definition (even a good one depending), should carry a minimum sentence.
I suspect that this comes down to American weapons manufacturers losing business and getting their cronies in the government to make some noise about it.
That being said, I do think that the military shouldn't be buying anything (a) off the Internet from unknown entities and (b) from anyone but the original equipment manufacturer. Seems surprising in fact, that they could do so. Perhaps there are middle man providers who are supposed to be selling OEM parts but who themselves are buying on the Internet.
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Reality is what it is, perceptions are what they are. Been good talking with you as well -
Slavery is slavery whether it is recognized or not. It is or it is not. Either someone is owned by someone else or they are not. This is not subjective and not subject to the view of a person or a culture and has nothing to do with being enlightened, or not. People had stone tools because they had stone tools. Had nothing to do with us having electricity and being enlightened about tools.
China is a culture of theft when it comes to intellectual property because they are a culture of theft of intellectual property. It is an objective reality and has nothing to do with perception.
Read my later post - law or lack of a law does not change the shape of the thing.
Fight back?
It's business, nothing more nothing less. They're hungry and there are soft targets ripe for the taking. Sorry I don't share your viewpoint on this one -
In Africa where slavery was rampant long before whites came, there were no laws against slavery...and yet there was slavery. In ancient Greece, Egypt and elsewhere slavery was legal, and yet still it remained slavery.
Lack of a law against something does not change that it still objectively exists. Where a culture does not deny or even promotes something, be it slavery or the theft of intellectual property, that culture defines itself. Ancient Greece was a culture, in part, of slavery. China is a culture, in part, of theft.
In other words, no LEGAL sense of protected IP. That is starting to change, slowly, as the world gets wired up, but it will take a while. Another way to say this is that many, many people in China have no problem with lifting someone else IP, because that's the way things have always been. btw, this doesn't make China a thieving culture, but rather a culture where there have been no strictures embedded in civil code to prevent this sort of thing. This is one more reason why international companies need to be cautious with IP in China, and understand how to play hard ball when they have IP stolen.
That's like saying the Somali pirates aren't pirates because there's nothing in their culture that makes it wrong. There shouldn't have to be laws for people not to steal, and people who steal are thieves whether there's a law saying so or not.
Every rigorous study funded by whom? Remember when every rigorous study of smoking showed that it was perfectly safe?
You seem immediately ready to disregard THIS particular study that might go against what are most likely industry funded studies that show that fracking is safe.
...five more reports claiming that fracking has nothing at all to do with seismic events which will serve as the justification for the upcoming change of leadership of the USGS.
He did what he should do and now he's going to pay the price, which I'm sure that he guessed might be the end result.
More respect to him then, for doing it anyway.
Extending your comment to include Israel, as they also appear to be above and beyond international law.
...and those one billion lives saved each had three children thereby increasing the demand for food four times over the original demand level.
Can the human virus be looked at like p2p traffic, consuming as much as is available until there is congestion regardless of availability?
"I don't think much progress will be made in that regard as long as Obama is in office--he's demonstrated that he's more than happy to embrace warrantless surveillance of all kinds." ...as if any of the other mainstream politicians would be any better.
"You can have a hip replacement (that would cost us the insurance company 90,000) or we'll give you 45,000 in cash...take your pick."
It sucks to be poor.
Was out riding bikes with my family yesterday, came to a park where there had been a bicycle accident. Some guy maybe 20 had hurt himself doing a stunt. The emergency medical services were there. Three of them. The kid had pain in his leg and abdomen. They took their time professionally examining him, then brought him to the hospital.
Interesting points:
- the SAMU (emergency medical unit) has actual doctors (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergency_medical_services_in_France)
- the cost of this will be almost completely covered by social security even though he'll get top notch care
Can't say for the waiting time at the hospital but yes, triage is triage. That being I hurt my eye once a couple of years ago, had to go to the hospital. They took me in immediately, saw an optometrist within about fifteen minutes and was out the door in forty five. It was a Sunday. Total cost to me, 35 euros.
That's socialist it must be bad!!! /ironyoff
I'm an American living in France. Just before I came over, some eight years ago, I had my teeth cleaned by a place in NJ. Nice clinic, very clean, very professional, very busy, very big. No idea how many dentists there were there but I'm sure there were quite a few. They cleaned my teeth and told me I needed 2,000 dollars worth of work in my mouth between two root canals at 400 dollars each and a few cavities.
Came to France the next month on a visit. Saw a local dentist. Clean place, one dentist, very calm and quiet, very professional. Told me that yes I needed a root canal (one) and that the rest was nothing urgent. Charged me 50 euros, so about 40 dollars at the current rate.
My wife had my baby son there in France a few months later in a private clinic. A clinic that charged us about 2,000 (yes only three zeros) for a four day stay including the actual birth and a few days after just because that's fairly standard. Not sure what that would cost in the US as it changes depending on which slice you're in (title 19 free govt medical insurance (lowest charges by the medical establishment due to price setting by the govt), private insurance (next lowest charges by the medical establishment due to negotiation by insurance companies) or no insurance (you're fucked, sell the house).
My experience is that while large companies will use Asian companies for some portion of their network, it's never any of the important parts. Let's break this article down a bit.
"Rivers says. “With the traditional enterprise networking vendors, they just couldn’t get there. The cost was too high, and the systems were too closed to be manageable on a network of that size.”"
Note that the first and only real point is 'cost'. The rest is bullshit.
"The Ciscos and the Force10s build their gear with many of those same manufacturers. Google removed the middlemen." ...goes very well with the spin term "“original design manufacturers,” or ODMs". More bullshit.
"Now, the other giants of the web are running into the same issues, and they too are going straight to Asia for hardware."
Presumably the real issue being cost of course. The western manufacturers of course have addressed every other issue that comes up as these are (were?) their biggest customers.
"As J.R. Rivers serves this market with Cumulus Networks, James Liao is doing much the same thing with a second startup called Pica8, offering networking gear that comes straight from the ODMs."
In other words these guys are trying to sell the Asian kit in the west and are trying to show that it's not crap because the biggest companies are using it. There may be a reason that this is "...one of the best-kept secrets in Silicon Valley." it may be mostly bullshit.
"Martin Casado — the chief technology officier of a third Silicon Valley networking startup, Nicira — confirms that the hardware market is shifting to Asia."
Gee..yet another interested party saying that everyone is shifting.
I stopped reading because the rest is about these startup guys that kicked off the article.
I don't know...is it proven? Haven't seen anything to this effect but if you have sources I'm open to reading them.
I can believe it from the perspective that wealth implies some level of security (though America is failing with regard to infant mortality compared to other developing nations).
You're making the erroneous assumption that my assumption is erroneous :-) Couldn't resist saying it even though I am not sure where you got your analysis from as I've said nothing of the kind.
I'm not assuming that increasing the food supply would do anything other than keeping a few more people in the country from going hungry, thus allowing the population to increase by some degree, thus increasing the demand for food, thus raising the price of food, thus having some number of people going hungry.
I'm not concerned about their population density. Obviously it could be higher.
I'm saying that because they tend not to use birth control, and tend to have as many children as possible, demand for the food would increase linearly with the production of the food.
From an economics standpoint, supply would go up but demand would also go up, pushed by local demand due to an increased population along with the exporting of the food to those who can pay more. What you purport can only happen if demand remains stable - either by restricting exports or by...birth control.
Can't do anything about China (and others) breaking into every system they can...okay, let's hit our own citizens hard because we can then at least we can say that we're doing SOMETHING about the 'hacking problem'.
Just like Intellectual Property and counterfeit producs. Can't get the real problems solved, hit those within reach.
These ideas are all traps put in place by corrupt lawmakers and special interest groups that benefit from for profit prisons. Don't get it twisted.
In this case I think it as likely that it's techno-ignorant lawmakers trying to accomplish something valid by using too large a hammer.
"The mandatory minimum sentence should be zero in ALL crimes."
I have to disagree? What about murder and rape? I think that society has a need to set a minimum sentence for such violent crimes to ensure that those who perpetrate them are off the streets for whatever amount of time.
That being said, I don't think that hacking, which has a hugely broad definition (even a good one depending), should carry a minimum sentence.
I suspect that this comes down to American weapons manufacturers losing business and getting their cronies in the government to make some noise about it.
That being said, I do think that the military shouldn't be buying anything (a) off the Internet from unknown entities and (b) from anyone but the original equipment manufacturer. Seems surprising in fact, that they could do so. Perhaps there are middle man providers who are supposed to be selling OEM parts but who themselves are buying on the Internet.
"...and whose citizens are government property."
FTFY