An employee who doesnt expect it needs a reality check.
Heres some more shockers, from an IT consultant:
* Your firewall / IDS is probably proxying all of your connections.
* SSL is probably being intercepted to. You ever check who issues the SSL certs of your favorite sites?
* DNS lookups may well be monitored.
The biggest shocker: Its not your machine, or your network, or your electricity. Its not your time, either. Their job, their rules: Get over it. Of course, you generally do have the freedom to walk out if you dont like the whole "not your resources" angle, smaller companies tend to do this less.
No they won't. Have ever had google just ban you and not let you search claiming that you are a robot no matter how many captchas you successfully fill out? Thats a regular occurrence on tor. You make tor the default and half your user base will be on chrome before you can say "browser". I'm am all in favor of any and all anonymity/encryption efforts but the general public doesn't care enough to encrypt their email let alone use tor.
What's my motovation to hide as a 16 year old girl?
To troll some nsa perverts into using their laptop camera exploits into think they are getting are going to spy/perv on a 16 year old female and instead get a naked neckbearded broney wearing a pantomime hoarse head while pulling a goatsx?
I have come to the conclusion that it is because the world is filled with f*cking morons and that most people in charge of large sums of cash are the stupidest of the whole lot. I mean Whatsapp is a crippled xmpp chat app making no profit and it gets sold for tens of billions of dollars and I watch tv and see economists say whatsapp should have held longer because they could have gotten more money... what the hell. half to three quarters the people on slashdot could write a better chat app and none of us would make enough money off of it to pay for the webhosting for it. How much longer can it be until this mobile/cloud version of the.com bubble bursts and the market gains some sanity?
Gotcha, you're a dude. Girls never use "btw": they use "fyi" with a whiny, self-righteous sarcastic undertone.
Thinking of that, this applies to flamboyant gay males as well.
So you are either an overweight straight guy in his early 30s or a Perl script written by an overweight straight guy in his early 30s.
no she is a 16 year old girl pretending to be an overweight straight guy in his early 30s pretending to be a 16 year old girl.:-D Its meta-trolling all the way down.
Well the hardware's cheap, and considering the miniscule data usage I'm pretty sure they could work out something with cell companies - the "phone" wouldn't even need to be on but for a few minutes a month. Wifi support would probably be even cheaper, if not quite as convenient.
I suspect security and inertia are a bigger issues - auto manufacturers have got to be aware of how atrocious their security is, but at present it needs physical access to attack - and if you've got physical access all safety bets are off anyway. I doubt any company wants their cars to be the first to to be used as Anonymous assassination tools, that's the sort of publicity that could decimate their business.
If they used binary signing and used a long strong key they should be fine, hell they could give every car a unique key so even if you crack the key on one car it would still leave you with an entire fleet minus one vehicle safe
Trust an advertising company to give you unfiltered internet access?
Do it trust a company with a history of supporting open source software, and open standards, that lest me see the data the collected when i am using their services and edit and or delete it, more than I trust a cable company or cell service provider? yes I do trust Google more.
Is Google perfect? No they have made mistakes but they try to not be evil more often then not, and that is far more than I can say about most other companies in their line(s) of business.
So there's a need for people to maintain and repair the garbage robots, but not for garbagemen as such.
Why will we need robot repairmen for mass produced robots as they will assuradly be built by other robots they should be repairable by other robots. We probably will need repairmen for less common or special purpose robots though.
So you cant call 911 to get local cops when your home is being raided by black SUV driving feds that don't tell the local cops when they are about to bust you? So you when turn on the camera and start live streaming to youtube of the raid and set it down somewhere unlikely to be seen they can kill the stream. That would be my guess.
Firstly his consulting business should have been incorporated as a limited liability company so that when sued we would not lose his own shirt when his firm gets sued. Secondly sounds like he went to to far past the protection from the idiocy of others to not responsible for his own idiocy.
Vote third party. It may not be effective if I am the only one but at least I can sleep with a clean conscience. Voting for the lesser of two evils is still supporting evil, and not voting is a vote for the status quo. However if everyone were to vote with their conscience instead of the lesser of two evils neither of those would win.
At least Republicans don't rub their thumbs around on crystals hoping to improve their karma and believe that men are the source of all evil...
See, I can point to a minority and act as if they're representative of the whole as well. All sides have their Pajama Boys. Try not to shatter your teeth when you jerk your knee.
Minority? Many of the core tenets of the republican party are hostile to science, technology, the environment, and even people. When it's the official stance of your party, you can't exactly dismiss it as just a few crazies casting a bad shadow on the party as a whole.
Remember it was a republican, Bush that boosted NASAs budget and planned that they return to the moon and go to Mars. Obama the democrat killed that. Which party is anti science?
I guess my tech illiterate grandma is a hacker then because she can use Google too. If clicking a link on google is all it takes for you to be branded a hacker now why don't they just lock up everyone that is not Amish (who in turn act as our jailers as they are the only one that can't google things).
I thought the whole fuck beta thing is over with now? Didn't they already indicate in the official response the whole thing was just to instigate feedback and everyone hyper reacted?
They did respond. I quit protesting at that point figuring we made our thoughts clear and they would not continue untill things had been fixed. Others are protesting until the beta is completely dropped.
I wish that they would post on topic then at the end of their post, put their beta protest.
Also Fixing the comment collapsing so that the mycleanpc guy/gnaa troll cant fill wall_of_text_spam a thread into oblivion.
I always thought of that as a feature. When I browse at -1, Raw and Uncut, I expect -1, Raw and Uncut, including all the trolls and spam. The MyCleanPC stuff is garbage, yes, but I'd rather not have someone else deciding it for me. The GNAA stuff is largely drawn from a database of trolls, and it can be an incisive comment on the subject at hand (although often not). If you're offended by it, you whooshed the point of it. (cf. free speech, objectionable speech, etc.) You can browse above -1. Maybe we should have a -2, Raw and Uncut for people who want the spam too?
I do think that the new site should have been an incremental improvement of the existing discussion model and design, regardless of the underlying code.
A special minus two for spam would be the best I think.
Make it so you can't be modded lower than minus one unless you are actually a spam-troller. The wall of text repeat spammers that try to fill a a thread prevent other from having a real discussion are acting to curtail the free speech of our community it takes quiet a while to down mod them to -1 so they aren't viewed normally clogging and ruining the discussion at hand for others. for example
Almost half the post are mycleanpc spam and it hurt what could of been a descent discussion.
I actually read at -1, reading AC posts and looking for posts that actually insightful but have been modded down due to bad moderation but these spam ruin that filling the whole forum with their drivel. It should no be hard to -2 these repeat spam post
The comment system isn't finished yet, that's for sure -- but we've implemented a number of changes and improvements in response to the feedback from the October launch.
We can't implement every suggestion -- some contradict each other, and there's only so much time in the day. But we are listening and incrementally improving the experience based on what users are telling us.
Soulskill thank you for acknowledging our complaints. But there are only like 2 things most of the community really want changed; Unicode enough to use currency symbols like a cents sign. Also Fixing the comment collapsing so that the mycleanpc guy/gnaa troll cant fill wall_of_text_spam a thread into oblivion.
Other than that we were mostly happy with classic as is. This beta seems mostly like change for its own sake. While I am sure that the code needs to be tamed after how ever many years the user layout is fine. To use the standard car analogy you don't change the lines on a classic car you can overhaul the engine redo the electric and sound system and mod the hell out of the internal but you leave the body alone. Similarly we like the classic layout without the cruft of the more modern GUI heavy image stuffed but text light sites.
Really all that needs changed about slashdot is support for unicode (which could be copy and pasted from slashdot japans site) and fixes for auto compacting/baning the mycleanpc spam and gnaa trolls.
I suppose that is true, but it assumes that North Korea had given the leaker that offer, which they probably did not. In that case, he can not pass it on, and thus, they would both be in violation of the GPL.
If they did not give him the offer for source code they are in violation of the gpl no that north korea is likely to care all that much.
My friend got a GPL-covered binary with an offer to supply source, and made a copy for me. Can I use the offer myself to obtain the source?
Yes, you can. The offer must be open to everyone who has a copy of the binary that it accompanies. This is why the GPL says your friend must give you a copy of the offer along with a copy of the binary—so you can take advantage of it.
It would seem that if we count the leaker that released this our "friend" as described above we should be able to file with North Korea for a copy of the source code.
Like the other guy said, they are not obligated to provide the source to any of us, since they didn't distribute it to us.
as per the gpl faq on gnu.org
What does “written offer valid for any third party” mean in GPLv2? Does that mean everyone in the world can get the source to any GPL'ed program no matter what?
If you choose to provide source through a written offer, then anybody who requests the source from you is entitled to receive it.
If you commercially distribute binaries not accompanied with source code, the GPL says you must provide a written offer to distribute the source code later. When users non-commercially redistribute the binaries they received from you, they must pass along a copy of this written offer. This means that people who did not get the binaries directly from you can still receive copies of the source code, along with the written offer.
The reason we require the offer to be valid for any third party is so that people who receive the binaries indirectly in that way can order the source code from you.
Correct me if I am wrong but that sounds to me like we have a ligitamate claim here.
Slashdot Mirror
An employee who doesnt expect it needs a reality check.
Heres some more shockers, from an IT consultant:
* Your firewall / IDS is probably proxying all of your connections.
* SSL is probably being intercepted to. You ever check who issues the SSL certs of your favorite sites?
* DNS lookups may well be monitored.
The biggest shocker: Its not your machine, or your network, or your electricity. Its not your time, either. Their job, their rules: Get over it. Of course, you generally do have the freedom to walk out if you dont like the whole "not your resources" angle, smaller companies tend to do this less.
I would but slashdot is won't give me ssl. :-(
If it comes bundled with Firefox, they'll use it.
No they won't. Have ever had google just ban you and not let you search claiming that you are a robot no matter how many captchas you successfully fill out? Thats a regular occurrence on tor. You make tor the default and half your user base will be on chrome before you can say "browser". I'm am all in favor of any and all anonymity/encryption efforts but the general public doesn't care enough to encrypt their email let alone use tor.
What's my motovation to hide as a 16 year old girl?
To troll some nsa perverts into using their laptop camera exploits into think they are getting are going to spy/perv on a 16 year old female and instead get a naked neckbearded broney wearing a pantomime hoarse head while pulling a goatsx?
I have come to the conclusion that it is because the world is filled with f*cking morons and that most people in charge of large sums of cash are the stupidest of the whole lot. I mean Whatsapp is a crippled xmpp chat app making no profit and it gets sold for tens of billions of dollars and I watch tv and see economists say whatsapp should have held longer because they could have gotten more money... what the hell. half to three quarters the people on slashdot could write a better chat app and none of us would make enough money off of it to pay for the webhosting for it. How much longer can it be until this mobile/cloud version of the .com bubble bursts and the market gains some sanity?
Gotcha, you're a dude. Girls never use "btw": they use "fyi" with a whiny, self-righteous sarcastic undertone.
Thinking of that, this applies to flamboyant gay males as well.
So you are either an overweight straight guy in his early 30s or a Perl script written by an overweight straight guy in his early 30s.
no she is a 16 year old girl pretending to be an overweight straight guy in his early 30s pretending to be a 16 year old girl. :-D
Its meta-trolling all the way down.
if a car I buy has onstar within a week i will have a hardwired switch in place to be able to turn it on and off at my pleasure.
Well the hardware's cheap, and considering the miniscule data usage I'm pretty sure they could work out something with cell companies - the "phone" wouldn't even need to be on but for a few minutes a month. Wifi support would probably be even cheaper, if not quite as convenient.
I suspect security and inertia are a bigger issues - auto manufacturers have got to be aware of how atrocious their security is, but at present it needs physical access to attack - and if you've got physical access all safety bets are off anyway. I doubt any company wants their cars to be the first to to be used as Anonymous assassination tools, that's the sort of publicity that could decimate their business.
If they used binary signing and used a long strong key they should be fine, hell they could give every car a unique key so even if you crack the key on one car it would still leave you with an entire fleet minus one vehicle safe
Trust an advertising company to give you unfiltered internet access?
Do it trust a company with a history of supporting open source software, and open standards, that lest me see the data the collected when i am using their services and edit and or delete it, more than I trust a cable company or cell service provider? yes I do trust Google more.
Is Google perfect? No they have made mistakes but they try to not be evil more often then not, and that is far more than I can say about most other companies in their line(s) of business.
So there's a need for people to maintain and repair the garbage robots, but not for garbagemen as such.
Why will we need robot repairmen for mass produced robots as they will assuradly be built by other robots they should be repairable by other robots. We probably will need repairmen for less common or special purpose robots though.
So you cant call 911 to get local cops when your home is being raided by black SUV driving feds that don't tell the local cops when they are about to bust you? So you when turn on the camera and start live streaming to youtube of the raid and set it down somewhere unlikely to be seen they can kill the stream. That would be my guess.
Because there is still wifi and satalite phones that they cant as simply lock down by flipping a breaker at the nearest cell tower.
Firstly his consulting business should have been incorporated as a limited liability company so that when sued we would not lose his own shirt when his firm gets sued. Secondly sounds like he went to to far past the protection from the idiocy of others to not responsible for his own idiocy.
Well done for accepting that.
Now what are you going to do about it?
Vote third party. It may not be effective if I am the only one but at least I can sleep with a clean conscience. Voting for the lesser of two evils is still supporting evil, and not voting is a vote for the status quo. However if everyone were to vote with their conscience instead of the lesser of two evils neither of those would win.
why would they need a third party one its apache licensed so they could fork main line dalvik?
At least Republicans don't rub their thumbs around on crystals hoping to improve their karma and believe that men are the source of all evil...
See, I can point to a minority and act as if they're representative of the whole as well. All sides have their Pajama Boys. Try not to shatter your teeth when you jerk your knee.
Minority? Many of the core tenets of the republican party are hostile to science, technology, the environment, and even people. When it's the official stance of your party, you can't exactly dismiss it as just a few crazies casting a bad shadow on the party as a whole.
Remember it was a republican, Bush that boosted NASAs budget and planned that they return to the moon and go to Mars. Obama the democrat killed that. Which party is anti science?
I guess my tech illiterate grandma is a hacker then because she can use Google too.
If clicking a link on google is all it takes for you to be branded a hacker now why don't they just lock up everyone that is not Amish (who in turn act as our jailers as they are the only one that can't google things).
Once you start using absolutes, we're past the point where every single thing you want to believe is true, and every single thing you don't is a lie.
Consider that.
Are you absolutely sure of that?
I thought the whole fuck beta thing is over with now? Didn't they already indicate in the official response the whole thing was just to instigate feedback and everyone hyper reacted?
They did respond. I quit protesting at that point figuring we made our thoughts clear and they would not continue untill things had been fixed. Others are protesting until the beta is completely dropped.
I wish that they would post on topic then at the end of their post, put their beta protest.
Also Fixing the comment collapsing so that the mycleanpc guy/gnaa troll cant fill wall_of_text_spam a thread into oblivion.
I always thought of that as a feature. When I browse at -1, Raw and Uncut, I expect -1, Raw and Uncut, including all the trolls and spam. The MyCleanPC stuff is garbage, yes, but I'd rather not have someone else deciding it for me. The GNAA stuff is largely drawn from a database of trolls, and it can be an incisive comment on the subject at hand (although often not). If you're offended by it, you whooshed the point of it. (cf. free speech, objectionable speech, etc.) You can browse above -1. Maybe we should have a -2, Raw and Uncut for people who want the spam too?
I do think that the new site should have been an incremental improvement of the existing discussion model and design, regardless of the underlying code.
A special minus two for spam would be the best I think.
Make it so you can't be modded lower than minus one unless you are actually a spam-troller. The wall of text repeat spammers that try to fill a a thread prevent other from having a real discussion are acting to curtail the free speech of our community it takes quiet a while to down mod them to -1 so they aren't viewed normally clogging and ruining the discussion at hand for others. for example
http://news.slashdot.org/story...
Almost half the post are mycleanpc spam and it hurt what could of been a descent discussion.
I actually read at -1, reading AC posts and looking for posts that actually insightful but have been modded down due to bad moderation but these spam ruin that filling the whole forum with their drivel. It should no be hard to -2 these repeat spam post
The comment system isn't finished yet, that's for sure -- but we've implemented a number of changes and improvements in response to the feedback from the October launch.
We can't implement every suggestion -- some contradict each other, and there's only so much time in the day. But we are listening and incrementally improving the experience based on what users are telling us.
Soulskill thank you for acknowledging our complaints. But there are only like 2 things most of the community really want changed;
Unicode enough to use currency symbols like a cents sign.
Also Fixing the comment collapsing so that the mycleanpc guy/gnaa troll cant fill wall_of_text_spam a thread into oblivion.
Other than that we were mostly happy with classic as is. This beta seems mostly like change for its own sake. While I am sure that the code needs to be tamed after how ever many years the user layout is fine. To use the standard car analogy you don't change the lines on a classic car you can overhaul the engine redo the electric and sound system and mod the hell out of the internal but you leave the body alone. Similarly we like the classic layout without the cruft of the more modern GUI heavy image stuffed but text light sites.
Hey I browse with w3m regularly (whenever AMD or Ubuntu decide to bork my graphic driver) and it displays alright at least in classic.
Really all that needs changed about slashdot is support for unicode (which could be copy and pasted from slashdot japans site) and fixes for auto compacting/baning the mycleanpc spam and gnaa trolls.
I suppose that is true, but it assumes that North Korea had given the leaker that offer, which they probably did not. In that case, he can not pass it on, and thus, they would both be in violation of the GPL.
If they did not give him the offer for source code they are in violation of the gpl no that north korea is likely to care all that much.
Also According to the gpl faq on gnu.org
My friend got a GPL-covered binary with an offer to supply source, and made a copy for me. Can I use the offer myself to obtain the source?
Yes, you can. The offer must be open to everyone who has a copy of the binary that it accompanies. This is why the GPL says your friend must give you a copy of the offer along with a copy of the binary—so you can take advantage of it.
It would seem that if we count the leaker that released this our "friend" as described above we should be able to file with North Korea for a copy of the source code.
Like the other guy said, they are not obligated to provide the source to any of us, since they didn't distribute it to us.
as per the gpl faq on gnu.org
What does “written offer valid for any third party” mean in GPLv2? Does that mean everyone in the world can get the source to any GPL'ed program no matter what?
If you choose to provide source through a written offer, then anybody who requests the source from you is entitled to receive it.
If you commercially distribute binaries not accompanied with source code, the GPL says you must provide a written offer to distribute the source code later. When users non-commercially redistribute the binaries they received from you, they must pass along a copy of this written offer. This means that people who did not get the binaries directly from you can still receive copies of the source code, along with the written offer.
The reason we require the offer to be valid for any third party is so that people who receive the binaries indirectly in that way can order the source code from you.
Correct me if I am wrong but that sounds to me like we have a ligitamate claim here.