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We Can Avoid a Surveillance State Dystopia
An anonymous reader writes "After the past year's revelations about NSA spying, it's hard to read any commentary about society without dire warnings of the coming (or already present) surveillance state. Sci-fi author Ramez Naam makes the point that while government surveillance needs to be fought, it's actually not as bad as what we were promised in decades past. 'Aldous Huxley published Brave New World in 1932. And while Brave New World is remembered more for predicting government-controlled biological engineering of the masses, it also features government surveillance, media manipulation, and thought control. This is an old idea. Yet somehow, today, in most of the world, governments have dramatically less control over their people than they did when Huxley and Orwell wrote those words. Indeed, the average person on Earth is more free today, in 2014, than he or she would have been in the actual year 1984. The arc of history has bent towards more freedom.' Naam also explains that the technological advances allowing the bulk collection of personal data also provide us with cheap and easy means to fight government overreach."
So the government doesn't control the media and control us through fear of terrorism? Because it seems to me that they kind of do
we are not more free. we are over regulated, over ruled, over interfered with. period.
you can double-speak it anyway you like. spin spin spin. we are less free then ever here in the US of A.
The problem is that most 'normal' people aren't going to use things like Tor in order to not not be spied on by their own county, nor should they have to.
Privacy focused search engine
There is a new technology that makes it impossible to lie in court or when interviewed by police. I suppose businesses will want to use it on employees as well. It seems that the muscles that control the voice box move even when you only think a thought instead of speaking it outloud. A cop could easily tell everything that is going on in your mind with this technology as could a wife or a divorce lawyer. I wonder how society would do if the truth were always available for all to see. Imagine politicians and diplomats being interviewed.
You're too late.
"The average reporter we talk to is 27 years old......They literally know nothing." - Ben Rhodes
We're ether in a surveillance state run by the State, a surveillance state run by Corporations, or a mixture of both. Avoiding one means getting the other at this point. I don't see a third option without destroying the tech that makes it possible, and I'll be keeping my my computers until the Amish Technology Police State take them from my cold dead hands.
rock on /. from a slightly simpler time; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vC3FCS-NtAI
Please read carefully and don't pre-judge this, but surveillance this isn't a dystopia.
There have been cameras at malls since at least the 1980s. At convenience stores probably the same.
No one complains about those.
Libraries have had membership cards since at least the 1980s, video rental places the same since the 1980s. Your Visa or Mastercard has tracked your purchases since maybe the 1960s. The phone company has known a list of people you called since maybe the 1940s. The company you work for probably has kept an eye on employees since the 1970s or 1980s.
Every time a criminal is busted or arrested due to a camera, people are relieved.
Don't you feel relieved that in the modern day they can usually track down hit-and-run drivers that run over pedestrians or get the identity of thugs that assault people or commit fraud. There are irrational paranoid fears of a 1984 style future or a Soviet Union future, but in 1984 the evil government was actually losing the war, the Soviet Union disintegrated and China has vastly liberalized.
Priest: "Universe from nothing, no laws of physics, sped up time"+ huge discrepancies. Creationism? No. Big Bang Theory
It's because we have so much freedom that we know enough to be alarmed by how much government intrusion there is.
Moderating "-1, Disagree" is simple censorship. Have the guts to post your opinion.
Does anyone really think that the NSA wouldn't have been overthrown by the people if the government wasn't there to protect their precious surveillance state in the first place, using means of violence against human society as hole? What we need is a way to establish a status quo in ultimate personal security. A way no sniper riffle in Ukraine could hurt you, nor you would be able to hurt anyone else, nor you would be moving where you don't want to be taken. This would give a lovely ecosystem that everyone understands.
We are all quite back at Animal Farm et al. The question is: what should happen before mass hysteria outbreak occurs beyond the typical themes such as "religion". Passive democracy is certainly not quite cutting it, and is it better than the past? Probably yes, because people are being held accountable for registered actions. It does sadly not say anything about the puppet master that tries to make us think we are better off now.
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we are not more free. we are over regulated, over ruled, over interfered with. period.
I think spying on Americans is shitty. Regulating discharge from mining companies or oil drilling companies is completely acceptable.
That's my opinion.
You may disagree.
But where does freedom begin and end.
As for me, business is always wrong because profit makes people eventually do evil. Capitalism makes people spiral to the bottom because of its nature. The excuse of "our bottom line" creates a mentality to destroy the commons and poison people. I have never seen an exception. Please, tell me when the profit motive has helped people over the long term. I would really like to know.
Yes, I am implying that Socialism is better over the long term. Although, it's still not good enough.
Economics is the most backwards 'science" ever - it's more of a religion, isn't it.
...if only there was some process we could use by which we could affect change in our government.
There's no -1 for "I don't get it."
You cant avoid it. You are not in control of it.
---- Booth was a patriot ----
First off though, who is Ramez Naam and why should I care what his opinion is?
Secondly, "freedom" has never been evenly spread in the USofA. So while some of us are less free now, others have seen a net increase in their freedoms.
Anyway, from the summary:
He might want to look up Snowden and Manning.
You can "fight" but it is more likely that you will end up in jail than anyone doing the spying on behalf of the government will.
My grandfather was able to do many things that I cannot. My father was able to do less than him but still more than me. I have already gotten to do things that my kids won't be able to. Need examples, try how many places you can go hunting / fishing / hiking / off roading / target shooting / camping. You can't even have campfires at developed sites in some areas. Consider what firework options you have, they have probably gone down. Granted I live in the Peoples Republic of Kalifornia, so many of you will have more options than I do. Even so, the trend that I've observed is that options (another way of looking at Freedom) are going down. I don't see an end in sight either.
TFA is disinformation or ignorance, do not believe the message therein.
You are only as free as they let you be. The news is not the news. You are slaves to corporations that farm you. Your wars are fought to privatize economies. Since secrets were allowed in government they have been actively against all activism, because activism the only thing that affects change, your votes do not matter, the political system is rigged. Maintaining the social, economic, and political status quo, even against the will of the people, is what "national security" means. They don't have to fake disasters, they can craft legislation and posture politically so that when one comes along they can turn a blind eye if need be. Each disaster makes the people more powerless, increasing the wealth gap. This is disaster capitalism, and it is working great even in communist nations.
With unemployment up, you are still spending too much time working: One can not truly fulfill their potential as humans without time to relax, enjoy life, create, and explore new opportunities. Your office jobs are pointless, replaceable either by computers or outsourcing to individuals with less cost of living, and we do so increasingly to ensure no job stability -- nearly everyone is a buggy whip maker one step of progress away from being an "unskilled" homeless person. The labor jobs largely have no unions so their working conditions suffer. In both blue and white collar cases people are given no time to seek new avenues of employ, or even manage their finances (you think bankers hours aren't such for a reason? Information disparity is the source of all evil). With inflation out-pacing pay, money in savings is diminished so that people can not safely leave employ -- The better to entrap and farm you with my dear. If you had a little more time you'd have leverage at your disposal to find better work or keep a plan B so that you can bargain for better pay and working conditions. Each disaster allows the system to ratchet your belts a bit tighter, more reliance, less time to be human. This is why banks are not held accountable, and are rather encouraged to destroy markets. How could anyone benefit from economic disaster and the mayhem it brings? Humans will do whatever it takes to survive, and the unscathed upper echelon will capitalize on this.
What is worse than 1984 is having it worse while fools like the article writer think it's not as bad. Classic ignorance. An example of thought control at its finest. When I became an adult I looked upon your world as though an alien from a distant planet -- I managed to forget all the programming about what "the real world" is, and question everything as a scientist would. The most telling and alarming is your willful resistance to application of the scientific method to governance and worklife. It's fucking disgusting. No engineer or scientist would agree to be ruled thus.
The answer is to modularize and decentralize your production of necessary resources, but no one wants to hear that... Moronic NIMBYs, you deserve what you get for your apathetic ignorance and inaction. The government has codified resistance to sustainable coexistence. That's why farmers can't grow excessive crops, even for personal use, and no city can survive on its own. Hell, school kids aren't even taught basic technologies like how to start a cooking fire, swim, sew, butcher, or bake -- Not survival
You are absolutely right. The more important question to ask, would we be as free without the works of people like Huxley and Orwell?
"Indeed, the average person on Earth is more free today, in 2014, than he or she would have been in the actual year 1984"
Maybe the average person on Earth is more free today, but the average American is most definitely NOT more free today than they were in 1984. Try to buy a large soda in New York. Try to smoke just about anywhere indoors. Try to board a plane with a pocket knife, or even just a soda. 20 year old adults can serve in the Marines, but can't buy a drink.
The first step is to stop asking for more state and pretending that the government is a solution to control corporations, banks and any other "evil" out there.
Sure, and the Polar Vortex that put the entire US in a deep freeze this winter was all a conspiracy! So is the record drought in the Southwest! FOOL! WAKE UP!
Schneier in booth with RSA: https://www.schneier.com/
I guess this /. news is in itself sci-fi !
The internet is an inherently chaotic system with most of the computing power on the edges and very weak central controls. This is by design because it creates a stable, robust network. Individuals (first from universities) swarmed the internet in an explosion of creativity. They were followed by corporations as the net was opened to commercial activity. Government was late to the game and is only now coming to grips with how to use the internet for monitoring citizens.
As individuals moved online, there was certainly an increase in freedom to communicate. But now that "total information awareness " is upon us, we are less free. And in a way that's more dangerous than it was in 1984 because, at least until very recently, we did not know how limited our freedom was.
"He took a duck in the face at 250 knots." -- William Gibson, Pattern Recognition
I don't have to wake up. It's too bloody hot to sleep in Australia.
So wait - because we haven't yet started losing a lot of obvious freedoms yet we shouldn't be worried about an ever-more-invasive surveillance state? That seems disingenuous. It'd be a pretty stupid tyrant who tipped his hand before he was sure he could squash any opposition, especially if the tyrant in question is an association of powerful individuals who prefer to remain as anonymous as possible. Can you name the 100 most powerful people in the world? I bet you very few of them have ever intentionally appeared on television.
Even making the extremely generous assumption that the existing surveillance infrastructure is completely benign we'd be wise to listen to the old adage that power corrupts. Notice the order there - first comes the power, and only later the corruption. Create a powerful institution capable of concentrating immense power, and it's only a matter of time before corrupt individuals manage to maneuver themselves into a position where they can exploit it.
Besides which I would contest that we haven't lost a lot of freedoms. Once upon a time the US government wasn't capable of legally "disappearing" people in the middle of the night - now all they have to do is label you a terrorist and they can do just that. And I'm guessing pretty much anyone that might effectively threaten the status quo can pretty easily be labeled a terrorist. I'd say that's a pretty major freedom loss right there, even if it hasn't yet been horribly abused. (and how would we know?)
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The simple problem is that information is power. The typical psychopath who runs for political office or backstabs their way into top civil servant positions know this in their very cores. They want this power and they don't want us to have this power. This is why freedom of information requests can be the end of governments and many civil servants jobs and this is why they do their damnedest to fight them or exempt data from them.
A great example of this would be when the receipts for UK ministers got leaked that it instantly resulted in political career loss, criminal charges, and probably helped with a change in government. Obviously this was powerful data that when leaked resulted in a massive positive for society. Yet the government claims that this data is dangerous to have public; yet they can't show any damage that came from the one time it was made public. Plus the only claim with any real basis (account numbers and potentially credit card info) is nonsense as those could be blacked out with little loss to the public. But there has been no move to make this data public and an investigation into who leaked the data. If they did catch the person I suspect that they would end up facing penalties greater than those who were caught stealing from the government.
My personal view is that nothing that government does should be kept secret with the single exception of personal medical records. That basically if you work for or interact with the government that it should be 100% open. Some records could be sealed for a year or so such as undercover operations but that should require a special judge to approve and even then should have a time limit.
I see this as no different than if I owned a company and one of my employees told me that I couldn't see a contract they were negotiating for my company. If any employee said no to any information request I made then I would say, "No problem sorry to bother you." And then with security I would have them thrown out of the office while IT changed every password they might know and a forensic investigator would be pouring over their records before the day was over. Plus I would criminally charge them with the slightest wrong doing found. Whereas if an employee came to me saying they screwed up I would be quite forgiving and work with them through the problem.
Keeping things in the light is always the best policy. But too many government officials seem to think that we can't handle the truth. The reality is that the violent reaction they get when leaks do happen is that we are usually more annoyed with the coverup than the actual events. Benghazi would be perfect: it was layers of lying that brought about those events, events in a violent country where violence should be expected, and then the cover-up after. Few people would have been surprised that strange things happened in Libya, so covering them up was just stupid.
So no, this whole government getting more information is a terrible terrible thing. These people have long proven themselves to be 100% untrustworthy and quite hostile to our wellbeing. What has kept them from doing their worst was a combination of their having bad information combined with leaks that gave us great information. But now they can look at any "dissident" who by definition will be anyone questioning their behavior including normal political opposition, and not only figure out their entire network of supporters but as any mathematician will tell you with a network is that there are a few key nodes. Thus they will be able to effectively destroy any opposition not through routing out every little dissident but by highly selective targeting of very few people causing the network to disintegrate. To use the American revolution as an example I suspect that the British would have loved to find the few financially key supporters and throw them into the Boston harbor. If they had the lists of supporters that we now know as founding fathers the revolution could have been ended with one afternoon of hangings. And I am talking pre-teaparty; by reading their correspondence they could have seen trouble brewing, and with a few trumped up charges kept the ink off the declaration of independence.
As the public and press after the Snowden whistleblowing finally wakes up to been activly tracked and logged over decades what can be done? ;)
Popular culture sort of understood aspects of Echelon back in the 1980-90's via books and magazines, early internet use. The wider public where fooled by notions of legal protections, enshrined domestic law, population size, private vs public, computing power to store/sort vast data sets, brand and shareholders vs bad PR, powerful private sector crypto and other wonderful day dreams.
Understand the motives, funding, political origins and needs for vast illegal generational surveillance at the domestic level:
Operation_CHAOS http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O...
COINTELPRO (Counter INTELligence PROgrams)
Main Core http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M...
PATCON (Patriot Conspiracy)
Options:
If your in the press or like to work with the press/blogs do so fully, openly, in plain text and in much detail as you can. Fill your emails, web 2.0 with past stories, names, events, press contacts, terms.
Attend any and all local free speech events and make sure you drive so your license plate can be noted.
Smile for the on site cameras and CCTV. Carry you cell phone so it can be logged and arrive early, stay to the last speech, interview people, show your photo ID when asked
Ensure your date of birth and details are recored fully and are correct when requested.
Your now in the system but still enjoying your limited freedom to speak, work with the press, meet with other people in public, listen to their insights and experiences in public.
This will ensure good stories make it to the wider public vs the sock puppets pushing for more costly color of law limits on all of your freedoms.
Option 2
Buy a typewriter, use a photocopier, create a classic paper file system and only talk to the press face to face.
The East German and Polish experience in the 1980's show option 1 be very good at working in a country under constant surveillance with many interesting informants.
The state has to watch you work with the press or tell you to stop. Telling you to stop is picked up by the wider press and gets more people interested...
Domestic spying is now "Benign Information Gathering"
I'm considered by my friends as the most tech savvy guy around, but I use my good old Halda typewriter to type my blog & memoirs. It doesn't get much safer than than.
What this world is coming to - is for you and me to decide.
"Mass hysteria" as used by people in governments is often code for "what if the public find out I'm a crook and string me up for my crimes?". Outside of the odd stampede during fires etc the real thing almost never happens.
It's harder to get a large soda or smoke a cigarette, but it's easier to get married to someone you love. It's easier to get equal pay as a minority.
There are some smaller freedoms that have been reduced, but there are also major freedoms that have been increased.
... no we can't. Or we won't, rather.
Right now, the Technology we have is changing the world. The thing is, is that there are still large sloths of the US Population that still has a White Supremacist, or Christian Supremacist Medieval of the world we live in. To these people freedom and egalitarian thinking is the enemy. "The other populations" must be kept 'under control' The technology will be abused to whatever means possible to control what are seen as a domestic enemy population to uphold traditions of ancestors, and this can get as finite and grandular as Parents vs. Their Children.
We now have two salient facts about our technology:
(a) A constant flow of communication
(b) The ability to monitor it
Someone will do this. It's inevitable that government will want to in order to keep an eye on true threats. Sort of like Echelon, but domestically, as our threats are now domestic more than foreign.
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Unless of course you want to send an email and feel confident that it's confidential.
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I give you the unheard of Dr. Robert Duncan, Department of Defense, Central Intelligence Agency, Department of Justice surveillance system architect.
1976, he says TAMI / Thought Amplifying and Mind Interface was deployed in all radar systems based on Robert Malech's 1974 patent, 3,951,134, Apparatus and method for remotely monitoring and altering brain waves.
Democracy was destroyed, and today thousands of people have been victimized by the government with psychic attacks and directed energy weapon abuse. They monitor everyones brainwaves remotely, to the tune of 1.4 terabytes per second, and store our memories in their computer systems. Video, audio, emotions, dreams, and all are monitored. This isn't for criminal justice or peace either, they hate us and are controlling and sabotaging society and they can set up, rape, injure, murder, and get away with any covert abuse they want.
Space capability is also being used to target us during black operations, according to NSA whistleblower Russell Tice.. as he had done to many individuals and blew the whistle on in 2005.
Details, video, patents, books, interviews of Dr. Duncan's on and other NSA issues at: http://www.oregonstatehospital...
The fact is, the public still has not even picked up on the truth of the US governments surveillance programs and continues to live in ignorant bliss.
The Matrix Deciphered, Dr. Robert Duncan's ebook PDF download excerpts:
Here is secret #1 that has been suppressed by the forces of ignorance in the government. There was a patent that I will keep referring to throughout this book because of the importance of the work. It is published in the appendix. In 1974, Robert Malech, an employee of Dorn & Margolin Inc., a major defense subcontractor in radar design now owned by EDO Corporation an even larger all defense contractor in electronic warfare, invented a fairly simple radar device that could read whole brain electrical activity at a large distance . It has the major advantages of no wires and full brain electrical activity analysis, not just points on the skull surface. He discovered and perfected a way to use some simple electromagnetic oscillations anywhere from 100Mhz to 40 Ghz to read brainwaves by "illuminating" the brain and its electrical conductance then reading the return signal. The imaging method observes the changes of frequency resonances, amplitude, and phase which represent the states of neuron depolarization throughout the brain.
Secret #2. But more profoundly, he discovered that he could influence brain waves if precisely timed with a return training signal. He had no idea that at this moment in history, he had accidentally destroyed democracy as we envision it to be. The military and surveillance community immediately picked up on the patent and within two years had reprogrammed their communications and surveillance satellites and terrestrial phased arrays with the new concepts. The rapid deployment of this technology occurred because it only required software changes in already existing radar, imaging, and communications' terrestrial dishes and satellites. Many additional spy satellites have been launched since to bolster the system. So in 1976, on the bicentennial of this great nation, a system called TAMI was born. TAMI is an acronym for "Thought Amplifier and Mind Interface". A more invasive "Big Brother" technology came about before George Orwell's prediction of 1984.
Secret #3. Stealth RADAR techniques were first recorded by observing the Russian bombardment of the U.S. embassy in Moscow with microwaves. Using high powered steered phased arrays and focused directed energy from two sources next to each other, one can create a nearly undetectable "scalar" wave, or destructive interference at the point of interest. With just a minor energy interaction, the interfering beams bounce back with strong signal to noise ratio to be resolved at the sources again. This allows for any imaging
If the government controls the media, like in some certain countries, what's to stop them from making it seem like their citizens are oh-so happy and not totally oppressed? Keep in mind media control is still very powerful, and there are still people who think the Onion is a(n) legitimate/accurate news source.
"Can you name the 100 most powerful people in the world? I bet you very few of them have ever intentionally appeared on television."
Fuck yeah I can! And they have all been on TV.
1) Obama
2) Santa Claus
3) Putin
4) Chinese dude that runs China, what's his face.
5) Gandalf
6) Bill Gates
What do you mean the powerful people don't want to be on TV. That doesn't even make any sense. Tell former Mayor Bloomberg or Ted Turner that powerful people don't want to be on TV. You make no sense, man.
Priest: "Universe from nothing, no laws of physics, sped up time"+ huge discrepancies. Creationism? No. Big Bang Theory
Re the "list above is nonsense", try reading this cold
Timeline of United States military operations 1980–1989
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T...
Domestic spying is now "Benign Information Gathering"
The facial recognition systems track your face, your passengers face, another camera for you license plate number and then details get shared with a few gov and possibly private sector databases. :)
The main issue will be that your "home and work and shopping" driving options might be past a protest without a protest permit or parade permit and outside a free speech zone.
You would then be of interest. Is your state getting federal funds for national crime issues? Expect more tracking equipment.
ACLU: 2/3 of US population lives in “Constitution-free” zone
http://arstechnica.com/securit...
Expect more random Visible Intermodal Prevention and Response teams too.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V... too
Domestic spying is now "Benign Information Gathering"
The US did have a case on tracking patron records from a library. The National Security Letter aspect was taken to court and then dropped once in open court.
Some details at:
Librarians' NSL Challenge
https://www.aclu.org/national-...
Federal Judge Finds National Security Letters Unconstitutional, Bans Them (03.15.13)
http://www.wired.com/threatlev...
Domestic spying is now "Benign Information Gathering"
This is great! ...!"
It's even better than Internet conspiracy articles on the "greys" and their nefarious plans for the inhabitants of Earth.
All I can say is "give us more
just don't drink the water while you're doing it.
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Real Freedom is economic security. That's why the 1% have been relentlessly attacking your economic security for 30 years. Declining wages, relentless attacks on Unions, starve the beast politics and boom/busts where they buy up property on the cheap because they're the only ones with any money left after the bust. They're all tools to make you poor so you'll do what they say.
Here, let This guy explain it. He's much better than I am.
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This Robert Duncan character seems to have all the earmarks of a misinformation agent.
He has flaky credentials, flaky personal associations, flaky manner. He can't even write an email response without sounding 'off' and socially broken. He is very similar in manner to others who have gone on to embarrass and muddy the waters of their respective fields. The personality type seems to have a similar and noticeable flavor, I find, and I am always amazed that such damaged people are somehow able to write whole books with compelling content and which display evidence of well honed communication skills when clearly the author is barely functional.
Anyway, there's a bit of exploration into who Robert Duncan is with some of his responses here: http://exposinginfragard.blogs...
Typically, with these sorts, the subject matter they are presenting is based on a lot of mostly accurate and therefore valuable information, even including new insights nobody has heard before and which excite readers and thus polarize and move the public research of that subject forward in significant ways, -but in a manner controlled by the disinfo agency.
The information is skewed on purpose and includes nuggets of outright falsehood designed to be found and ridiculed/dismissed by debunkers and skeptics at a later date. This makes it easy to discredit everything under the subject banner regardless of the general validity of similar sources trying to be genuinely objective, because the debunked author is so clearly broken and his/her work embarrassingly inaccurate. This is an informational tar ball approach to counter intelligence.
The method seems to work. People with weak minds get confused and disturbed and/or offended, and afterwards tend to categorize everything not endowed with the aura of official approval in the, "Fake Moon Landing Tin Foil Crazy" file and thus remain docile followers of the "official story".
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Now, in terms of where I think the technology for mind control really is:
I think individuals and regions can be affected by EM signals so that they are more likely to react with certain responses than not. Free will cannot be abridged per se, but most people have no concept of reality and thus when they react to artificially created states of anxiety or confusion or other impulses, tend to move only in the directions planned out for them. They think they're acting out of free will, but really, they just have their buttons pushed and their options for movement predetermined.
I think that voices can be beamed directly into people's skulls from a distance using today's technology. Richard Sauder, an author who strikes me as being a great deal more genuine and nonflakey, described a bit about that.
And depending on the originating source, I'd say that some 'people' can be almost entirely remote controlled. Like flesh bots, I suppose.
Though, reading thoughts and imaging dreams and such...? I'd assume that might be possible at higher levels, but I'd be skeptical if human military structures are really there yet. Maybe some of them, depending on who they're working in association with, but that sounds like soul matrix manipulation of a sort, which I've never seen any evidence is within the grasp of human tech.
There is good regulation and there is bad regulation. Learn to recognize the difference.
It's quite easy to tell - anything that can pass congress and the house is bad regulation.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
It can't happen here...
No, it can't happen heeeerrrreee....
Talking to yourself, Todd?
What you SHOULD be doing is *NOT* masturbating in public.
So Todd, how's the court case going?
Dr. Robert Duncan has the most expensive education money can buy. He holds degrees from Harvard and Darthmouth universities among others. His credentials are well established and he's the only government scientist actually talking about this, and telling the truth. And he worked on and designed these systems.
Additionally, his book covers everything, with insight thats amazing, framing the issue almost perfectly. The only issue is he wrote it from the perspective that a TI was writing the book, but in a way, we are all TIs so it makes sense.
From : http://www.coasttocoastam.com/...
Robert Duncan
Biography:
Dr. Robert Duncan holds multiple degrees from Harvard University and Dartmouth College amongst others. He has had the most expensive American education money can buy. He is an investigator, author, and soon be movie producer on the topics of directed energy, neurological weapons, psychological, and information warfare. His movie is called "The Enemy Within - Psychic Warfare". A book he is co-authoring will be out in a few months called "Hacking the Human Mind".
Dr. Duncan has worked as a business and information technology consultant to the Fortune 500. He has worked for companies like Oracle Corporation, BEA systems, HP, BBN, and as a professor at a college. For the department of defense he has written the artificial intelligence code to track the Soviet nuclear submarine fleet with passive and active acoustical arrays and has been to a couple secret NATA Navy underground bases in Europe.
It took this guy a few years to get his book out, ultimately titled The Matrix Deciphered. Then came Project Soul Catcher which as a published book is probably his best..
He has appeared on a multitude of various radio and talk shows about this.
Don't see a lot of talk about the thousands dead in the OVER TEN YEAR long war in the middle east do you?
This is the kind of things the Smothers Brothers said that made the president of the united states call the president of CBS at 3am too tell him to shut them up.
But you can have sex just about anyway you want as long as the partners are of age.
Drugs and religion are fine too.
Just don't bother the powers that be where it really matters to them. If you do that, you'll be unemployed (freedom of speech protects you from the government- not from being fired by your company because it doesn't like what you said- or one of its business partners doesn't like what you said).
She was like chocolate when she drank... semi-sweet at first and then increasingly bitter.
It's not as bad as the absolute worst predictions of un-ending facism thought it would be? Government shills should go kill themselves.
Avoid it? We're in it. The question is can we get out of it.
I've fallen off your lawn, and I can't get up.
What freedom we have I don't think of as a three dimensional object enclosed within another three dimensional object.
Instead, freedom is some space being filled with an increasingly elaborate serpenski gasket. We are still in an expansion phase where the expansion of laws and convictions is still a growth activity. The social justification for more punishment prevails. The author of TFA has a very benign assessment of the justice enterprise.
Considering America since the end of WWII. There has been a parade of threats, fears and conflicts. Each one of these ideas, perceptions or facts has triggered a new round of military or domestic spending. Winston Churchill polarized the world with the phrase "Iron Curtain" in a speech right after WWII. A few years later, a Russian H-bomb explosion and a Sputnik launch set off an arms race and a wave of security anxiety that still operates. Domestically, early news reports about crack cocaine user behavior was parlayed by Senator Orrin Hatch, Utah and others into extremely long and unforgiving prison terms. The huge prison time value has resulted in lots of expenditures for police, prosecutors, prison guards and expenditures for buildings and equipment. Smothered underneath all this expenditure is a person not all that different from you and me. I lived near Baltimore once and the getter on Baltimore Pike looked at me and I felt a chill, he could have been my son.
Another way in which America has been propelled forward is the collapse of theories of justice. Instead of healing, forgiveness, education, employment or civil assistance the actual innovations in our justice system boil down to a greater variety of punitive punishments, a search for prison funding schemes that do not display visible capital expenditure costs to the voters, a quest for culturally pleasing prosecution stories ( like imprisonment of a celebrity home decorating publisher), and new and inflexible ways of damaging a person for life: Crushing fines. Loss of voting privilege. Lifetime registration as a sexual predator. There is a professional psychological establishment ready to support every district attorney with powerful medical sounding diagnoses to ensure every disturbed young person who shows up at school with a gun is labeled in a way to convince the public the kid is really bad.
I suggest that every family in America now has a felon within three steps away from you on the family tree.
Consider that we have a domestic government activity of prisons, courts, prosecutors and police. Outside of the country, the American military or paramilitary is described as being active in many countries, still "fighting terrorism". Both are consumers of government income (what we pay in taxes) and both enterprises are operating in expansion mode where the expenditures of these organizations is not yet perceived to be greater than the economic damage wrought on the families of the imprisoned or on the drone targets.
Social manipulation newspeak. Media control propaganda. Random assassination of entire families using drones. Imprisoning anybody indefinitely without trial and without good reason at any time. We live in very dangerous times when one political party is the same as the other just with different names and both defying the laws that make a society a free society a democracy. If a government was to kill people randomly what would such a government be called? If a government tortured people randomly what would such a government be called? If they tried to monitor everything you do and would lock you up in prison indefinitely without trial because they don’t like what you are saying what would such a government be called? When a government stops working for the people what would such a government be called? In 2014 will they kill you? How government works: In the U.K, the Prime Minister leads the government with the support of the Cabinet and ministers. You can find out who runs government and how government is run, as well as learning about the history of government. The Prime Minister is head of the U.K. government. He is ultimately responsible for all policy and decisions. He: oversees the operation of the Civil Service and government agencies appoints members of the government is the principal government figure in the House of Commons The Prime Minister is David Cameron MP and he is based at Number 10 Downing Street in London. More about the Prime Minister’s Office: http://child-porn-hacking-and-...
You don't require a university degree to be a nutjob, and having such a degree is no proof against being a nutjob.
Duncan is a nutjob who (nevertheless!) happens to hold degrees from Harvard and Dartmouth.
Put another way, Duncan has degrees from Harvard and Dartmouth, and is (nevertheless!) a nutjob.
Are we done now?
Il n'y a pas de Planet B.
Dude.. :>
You are retarded sir. Because the issue of directed energy exists, and we know it is true.
Duncan also worked on several projects that were part of a global surveillance system, including using satellites to track heart rate, breathe, and license plates from space.
Nobody actually calls this guy a nutjob that I know of and he's highly respected.. I personally think you would have to be a government agent to hate this guy or want to discredit him. Basically you would want to murder him for trying to expose the abuse you committed, if you were a US government agent.
The website posted before is actually a site set up to defame those in the TI community. Duncan is targeted by it (with all false claims), as is Derrick Robinson. They claim Derrick of Freedom From Covert Harassment and Surveillance even works for the NSA, a highly illogical and blanant lie. The site is run by retards ...
Dr. Judy Wood is another PHD scientist who has broken the story on directed-energy. This stuff does sound crazy to the public until they see the evidence, which is in her book Where Did The Towers Go? Evidence of Directed-Free Energy on 9/11. Essentially the buildings were dustified and turned to dust by someone with a massive directed energy weapon, .. I read her book and that is what the evidence proves. You can also watch the 2 hour movie on http://www.drjudywood.com/ she is the only person who has ever done a forensic investigation into the World Trade Centers collapse.
Judy Wood is one who even believes this stuff is being used for mind control..
We have illusory freedom if the "free" will we exhibit has been shaped by corporate ideology and values. Our minds are monitored and shaped by an ever refining effort to capitalize on our decisions. And those same techniques are used by nations to shape public opinion for policies that may or may not be to our collective benefit.
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Join site(s) like 38 Degrees, Avaaz even with the god-awful tories in power, 38 Degrees have made a substantial difference many times.
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Among intelligent people it's well understood that Socialism is a MUCH better economic system than Capitalism; it's one of those basic truths that even children come to figure out on their own because it's so obvious (until they get brainwashed by the unnatural culture that created Capitalism to begin with). The problem is GETTING there. Entrenched interests have spent LOTS of money influencing mentally incompetent and immoral people to cheerlead for them, they successfully teach people that 1 + 1 = 3; and the last thing they want to do is lose all their power by having a non-ignorant population..
"Retarded"?
Like some nut job from Springfield, Oregon who thinks the NSA beans signals into his head that make him masturbate in public parks ? Hows the court case going? Been arrested again recently ?
That kind of "retarded"?
Don't bother sparring with Todd Giffen, it's not just my opinion that he's "certifiable", he spends a lot of time at Oregon's Funny Farm in Salem. These days, he believes that the NSA beams signals into his head that force him to masturbate in public parks around the Eugene / Springfield area. How's the court case going, Todd?
So let me get this straight. You're saying that because the current surveillance which is happening isn't as bad as a book, a work of fiction, it's really not that bad?
Maybe you should stop posting fiction to Slashdot, slashdot.
you are irreverent shit troll man. I think you basically work for the government and help them cover shit up. lol.
Orwell's 1984 is a far better book to describe what is happening today.
you are irreverent shit troll man. I think you basically work for the government and help them cover shit up. lol.
Such a coherent communicator!
Go back you your public masturbation project. It's "performance art", right?
This is an outright, prima-face lie, based on nothing.
Why is this even on the Slashdot home page? Are we dedicated to spreading liberal and progressive propaganda now?
This signature has Super Cow Powers
do you want to talk or something? join my server. tell me who you are.
I know you want to reprogram me but come on. lets put your trolls towards more fruitful ventures, like fighting Obama, or something.
then again, maybe you're like the bitch FBI from COINTELPRO, spying on people, sending them letters to try to get them to commit suicide or something?
I am hoping you're a nice hacker who wants to play or something, or someone important, rather than just a mindless group of niggers. either way, come on in, links on the front page of my site or irc.oregonstatehospital.net SSL 6697. the servers secure either through web or mIRC/XChat/AndChat/Whatever...
"what if the public find out I'm a crook and string me up for my crimes?"
*stamp* "TOP SECRET"
So, problem solved.
How inappropriate to call this planet Earth, when clearly it is Ocean.
Wow. Just WOW. "Mindless group of niggers"? Psychotic and racist. Maybe you should move to Idaho?
I bet you are a frequent caller to Art Bell's fantasy show...
Take your meds, Todd.
Fuck you. Lmfao.
I want move to Russia or Sweden.. fuck the USA.
I want move to Russia or Sweden...
Neither Russia or Sweden accept destitute perverts...
Then again I don't want to go to either.. and I just want to see the USA nuked.
I view the whole world as a giant surveillance state, I will be targeted and turned to shit wherever I go.
You DEFILE yourself by posting at Slashdot. WHY do you do it when YOU KNOW Slashdot is owned by bib-business=-NSA?
ARE YOU ONE OF THEM?
***LEAVE*** Slashdot. They are tracking you.
I suppose one could argue we are "more free" in many ways, but I would argue that we also have far less privacy - and as a result, should be far more fearful of a government utilizing information about our private lives in malicious ways. That is all.
The United States will not miss a DOUCH BAG such as yourself!
lol. I get plenty of +4 +5 modded posts man. I am taking it easy right now, but when this happens I also make sure that I have a place in history thanks to Slashdot's moderation and anti-censorship policies.
I will keep posting here, and at times sucking in 200/300 click throughs a month. lol.
Here's what else I know about the NSA. These douche fuckers are everywhere. Every square inch of America, and the world is being watched, and is in their control.
No information is safe. Our computers are not safe. Our cellphones are not safe.
They are watching me even when I try to hide, with long-range satellites and radar systems, like they are everyone. They are able to read my brainwaves and tap into anything I know, or others know. They see what I see, and others see.
You cannot escape these douches, and you cannot lie or keep a secret. You cannot secure yourself, or your content or your possessions.
retarded fucks - they are tracking each of you as well, and you have only ever had the illusion of privacy or free will.
Also, they do not believe in the same principles of justice and liberty; that is but an illusion they use to control the public. that is what the masses believe in, but they believe in complete and total world domination, including of their own people.
The US government is a fucking massive empire.... and the public lives in their matrix, and they can literally control us just like in the movie the matrix. the dod/etc has untold fucking powers that you don't realize because of your lack of imagination.
while some injustices and arbitrary limitations of certain minority groups have been undone, giving the illusion of more "freedom". individual liberty has gone so far backwards as to make it impossible for a person of any sex, or race to live free with out paying the government for the pleasure. we in fact have become property of the state.
don't believe me? attempt to feed your family or just yourself without having to pay the government, be it via a hunting fishing tax, a tax on your income or sales of any goods you may manufacture. live off the land? you have to pay property tax on that. live on "public" land? in what fantasy world? and even then, there's probably a "use tax" but don't get caught harvesting anything.
you only keep your "freedom" as long as you pay the vig to the man. stop paying and you'll quickly be on the wrong end of a man with a gun. you'll then pay up or be shipped off to a prison.
choosing to not pay is an option, but you are then labeled a criminal and are not allowed to play in the walled garden with the other inmates... i mean citizens.
our masters are very clever and have done a very good job making most of us think we are free. your comment is a very good example of that. keep telling everyone how free we have become, and believe it. life is just easier that way.