The entire premise of this is absurd. Imagine the annoyance of going to google and searching for the phrase "to be or not to be" and receiving the following reply for your penny:
The word "or" was ignored in your query -- for search results including one term or another, use capitalized "OR" between words.
The following words are very common and were not included in your search: to be to be.
For my penny, I would have a list of "about 236,000,000" web sites that include the word "not." (Doubt me? Try it yourself.)
This is why this idea will fail. When a search goes bad, a web page turns out to be mirroring something seen elsewhere, or a the information is outdated or incorrect, we just move on. But when every one of these extracts a penny from us, we will get rightly angered by it.
Should I pay a penny for each X10 video camera ad that pops up? That would make the owner of that site richer than Bill Gates.
Nobody said that the web had to be profitable -- and no one is forcing site owners to leave unprofitable sites running. I know that I won't pay a penny a page for what is, more often than not, useless material and I think others will share my opinion. Make a site with valuable content and people will subscribe, but don't expect random visitors to just open their coin purse to you on blind faith that you will provide useful content.
In fact, I believe Zilog Z80s (an 8080 clone with some extra instructions -- around 1977?) are still being manufactured as controllers in various products.
Clone is an unfair word. The Zilog had a much larger instruction set and many of the shared instructions executed in fewer CPU cycles. Not only is the Z80 still manufactured, it's even used in TI graphing calculators. It was, and is, an elegant architecture that's well-suited to many applications for which blinding speed and access to megabytes of RAM is not a necessity.
You are completely right re SPDIF, CPU cycles, and error correction. I spaced out during the post and, rereading it, I don't know what I was thinking.
I'm still not a real fan of multiple cables. I've got four IDE cables, 2 CD audio cables, a SPDIF cable, a floppy cable, and power cables to eight different drives. Even ignoring the non-drive-related cables, it's a bird's nest in there.
Ok, if fmaxwells' time is so valuable, what's he doing pissing it-away on Slashdot?
I participate on Slashdot for relaxation and entertainment. Trudging all over town to buy a CD is neither relaxing nor entertaining. Any decent contract software engineer -- even those just out of school -- make enough that saving $6 on a CD is not worth 15 minutes of their time.
Do you think that Steve Case's and Bill Gates' time is worthless because they occasionally go to a movie or take a vacation? Your lack of logic makes me think that the computer industry may not be the ideal career path for you.
Doesn't all CD and DVD drives have connections for Audio as it is? Both digital and analog, which you just hook up to the soundcard.
Most now have both analog and digital (SPDIF) but only the analog has any form of error correction. And the digital eats up CPU cycles and disc controller bandwidth.
Why should that be in the ATA/SCSI specification? If it doesn't touch the computers busses it seems redundant. (I mean that it goes directly from CD->sound card.)
To reduce assembly costs and help clean out the rat's nest of wires in a loaded computer. I'd like to see the audio go to the motherboard and then go from the motherboard to the sound card -- if a soundcard was used.
I firmly believe that the days of separate soundcards are numbered. 99% of the public will be perfectly happy with the built-in sound that is now present on so many motherboards. And it's only a matter of time until top-notch audio finds its way onto motherboards. Then the integrated audio in an interconnection spec makes a lot of sense.
Uh, hello? Audio is analog. It's not digital data and requires different cabling, drivers, etc.
If Busmastered DMA-transfers were cleanly implemented in IDE/ATA, problem would be solved.
No it would not. Error correction for CD audio errors is only done in the drive and can't be done externally because only the drives know where the errors occurred.
IDE - Integrated Drive Electronics is a severely brain-damaged spec inherited from the evil design choices IBM made back in 1981 in order to push the cost of the bus controller onto the drive mfgrs.
It was compaq who moved the Western Digital 1003 controller from the bus onto the drive. But I agree that IBM is largely to blame for this stupidity. Even my Ampro CP/M-80 system had a SCSI controller on it.
There's no technical reason SCSI has to be expensive today.
I agree with you 100%. The only reason that SCSI is expensive because IDE is so bloody popular and SCSI is only used in high-end (read $$$) applications. The production volume is not there to support a lower price point nor does the market demand one.
So why in the name of Nyarlathotep do you want an extra cable for audio?
Error correction (see above) on damaged CDs, zero bus and CPU load to play the audio. Make SPDIF output error-corrected, and that would solve the problem. But don't ask me to give up my CPU cycles and eat up my disk interface bandwidth to play an audio CD.
I believe the poster was referring to Serial ATA, which once again offers backward compatibility, and a significantly lower pin count: 8 (IIRC) vs. 80 (for ATA/66+).
Actually, while a great improvement, it still doesn't meet my criteria. As I understand it, Serial ATA is still limited to two drives per controller (master and slave).
What I want is:
1. The ability to use lots of drives per controller (like SCSI).
2. Low cost controllers and drives (like IDE/ATAPI).
3. Thin, round cables that incorporate power, data, and multiplexed audio (details to be worked out).
Not that it matters -- tests have shown the only real benefit of round cables to be that they are more flexible, thus easier to work with, and the airflow advantage they provide does not produce any noticeable improvement in system thermals.
It does in a loaded system like mine where there are five ribbon cables (4 IDE channels -- 7 devices -- and a floppy drive). They are also much easier to route neatly.
Not only do I realize it, but I have four of them and a round floppy cable in my system. But they are still huge and have ungainly connectors. I want something like coax or fiber.
Ultra 100 controllers are typically moving data at less than 1/3 of their rated capacity from almost any modern ATAPI drive. As the article says: In the speed arena, the added bandwidth an ATA133 compatible controller can give you is unfortunately not a selling point at this time.I always get a kick out of people replacing their Ultra 66 controller with an Ultra 100. They are invariably disappointed by the almost identical performance. Now everyone with Ultra 100 controllers can rush out and buy Ultra 133 controllers and experience that same disappointment all over again.
What Ultra 133 buys us is the ability to use drives in excess of 137GB. Suddenly, 160MB drives are showing up that use this new standard. And that's a lot of p0rn!
Now what I want is a drive standard that can support high speed, multiple drives (not just two) per channel, is low cost, and uses a better, more convenient, round cabling system (e.g. fiber, coax, etc.).
I don't know which is worse, not being able to copy cds, a relatively new problem, and the fact that people are willing to pay 19 dollars or more for any cd.
That's a great philosophy if you want the latest Backstreet Boys, Goo Goo Dolls, or Mariah Carey CD, but purchasing rare import CDs, doubles, etc. means that you aren't going to find them for $13.
There's a place down the road from campus here with just about anything you want for cheap, and if they don't have it, they'll actually offer to order it for you
I often buy CDs at lunch and whatever store is the closest to my work is the cheapest. As the old adage goes, time is money and if I spend an extra 15 minutes buying a CD for $6 off, I'll have lost a lot more in billable time than I could possibly save on the CD. I don't mean to sound like a snob and I remember when I used to have to save up to buy LPs that I wanted (yes, I'm probably a bit older than you). Back then, I'd drive all over town looking for the best prices. Now I pay for convenience. I go to the mall or shopping center near my work, grab lunch, drop by the CD store, and go back to work. Boy oh boy, my life sounds boring!
Except, the requirement to use the little CD icon is paying money, not meeting the standard. They never claim to meet the standard anywhere.
If you sell something as a Compact Disc, you are advertising that it meets the standards for a Compact Disc. Philips/Sony licenses the logo, but they do not verify conformity with specs for each item that bears that logo. It is the responsibility of the manufacturers using the logo to assure that the products that they sell meet the specification for audio Compact Discs.
Licensing issues have nothing to do with false advertisement claims. Suppose I license the USB logo and then produce a "USB mouse" that doesn't work with the USB ports on most computers. I would still be guilty of false advertisement even though I licensed the USB logo.
yea, but if a company makes it hard or near imposssible to copy it, there's nothing illegal or wrong with that.
They are selling the items as "Compact Discs." My computers, JVC MP3/CD car stereo, and Riovolt portable MP3/CD player all play Compact Discs. So if I buy a disc and it does not play in them, it is not a Compact Disc. The companies producing the disc in question will have wasted my time -- with is worth far more than the $19 price of the CD.
There is a standard for audio CDs and it is well documented. If these companies are going to sell something that does not meet the standard, then they should not be advertising them as being "Compact Discs."
You are a decent guy and I hope, whatever calculator you choose, that it serves you well.
There is a lot of history related to HP calculators. HP introduced the scientific calculator to the world with the HP-35. That was 1972 and it came with rechargeable batteries rather than the crappy little 9 volt battery clip. The HP-41 was standard equipment on the space shuttle. They have really revolutionized the industry and it's indeed a sad day to see them close down the shop.
I have owned both HP and TI calculators. I have several of each. And I can say, without reservation, that the HP calculators are of the highest quality and last for decades. The TI keypads are doubling up numbers and missing keystrokes in a fraction of that time. This is a sad day when we have to choose between Sharp, TI, and Casio as our big-name calculators.
You remind me of someone saying "I'm glad Ferrari is going out of business. Chevy for life!"
This time last year,..well yeah,...by this time last year Billy Bubba Ray Clinton had already bent over and goat raped the economy.
The economy was better under Clinton than any time in the recent history of the country. The stock market climbed faster under him than under any President before him. Clinton reduced the national debt by more than any President in modern history.
The economy has tanked under Bush. Unemployment is way up. The markets have dropped. The budget surplus that Clinton worked so hard to build up is just about gone. Economists are pretty much in agreement that we are in a recession. The last time the economy was this bad was under George Bush Sr.
From today's Washington Post:
Simply put, Americans are now likely in the stomach-churning, confidence-busting, penny-pinching middle of what may turn into the deepest recession in 20 years.
...I'm a bit more stable and recovering from the summer 2000 crash.
Well that's what's important -- some needle-dicked bug fucker like you "recovering." Take a look around you, stupid. The economy is in the shitter. Layoffs abound. Consumer confidence is down.
..pull your head out of your ass you stupid inbred, and pay attention to the economy.
This "deal" is the result of Bush getting into office (I won't go so far as to say he was "elected"). The message went out to Redmond loud and clear that this was a much more monopoly-friendly administration.
Please don't be so naive as to claim that Bush had nothing to do with this. The appointment of Ashcroft, the slashing of the budget to pursue the Microsoft case, and the removal of high-powered, experienced DOJ staff assigned to the case were all done under the Bush administration. They might as well have hung up a "Welcome Microsoft!" banner on the front of the White House.
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Eye used spell checking on this massage butt, in genital, it don't find any thing wrong. Every word were spelled good accordian to the program. Do you no some thing that I donut?
(The above illustrates why spellcheckers are frequently of limited value without grammar checking software.)
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after they stoped
You missed that one (and you didn't catch the missing commas, lowercase 'm' in "Mozilla", etc.) so I have no faith in you, either.
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The socket for the CPU, whether on the adapter board or on the mainboard, will still have tabs for mounting a heatsink. The adapter could even, itself, be attached to the mainboard via the mainboard socket tabs.
Look at the design of PGA-to-slot adapters made to allow use of Socket 370 CPUs in mainboards designed for Slot 1 CPUs. You mounted the CPU on the board, the heatsink on the CPU, and the board in the slot. Worked fine. Look at the products to adapt CPUs from one family to another. These support voltage regulation and the use of a heatsink. (They are a stupid waste of money in almost all consumer PCs, but they point out the mechanical viability of such a solution.)
In fact, this would be a particularly easy one as there would need to be no significant offset between the two sockets. You only need to connect to four pins (3.3v, gnd, 2-pin thermal diode). The "output" could be a jumper to the two-pin power switch connector the motherboard. Problem solved.
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If there is any company out there with even an ounce of marketing savvy, they will create an adapter board that contains the thermal protection circuit. It will plug into any motherboard's CPU socket and the Athlon XP/MP will plug into it. If they want to add more pizazz to it, they can add an alarm beeper, LEDs, or a temperature readout.
Think of the number of potential customers! There's a huge market of upgraders out there -- people with existing boards into which they'd like to plug an Athlon XP. Then there are server guys who have so many systems that failures are statistically guaranteed. With this device, they'd just have to replace a fan/heatsink. Without it, they've got to install a whole new CPU.
So now we will have a new version of Linux that can run BeOS applications -- most of which were ported from Linux.
Don't get me wrong. I'm a BeOS fan and have purchased the last two commercial versions. I'm sad to see it end, but you have to know when to admit that it's over.
I agree. BeOS was lightweight, quick-booting, and, as you say, smooth, quick, and responsive. Attempting to build a BeOS clone by starting with Linux is like trying to create a supermodel by dressing up Rosie O'Donnell.
You aren't too clever, are you? Do you really think that citizens armed with handguns and rifles could have successfully stormed Chinese military bases and killed tank drivers and airplane pilots? Or did you think that the tank drivers would stop and get out in Tiananmen Square to get a breath of fresh air?
You have no power over a government gone bad if all you have are handheld guns. If you think otherwise, you've watched too many Rambo movies.
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The entire premise of this is absurd. Imagine the annoyance of going to google and searching for the phrase "to be or not to be" and receiving the following reply for your penny:
The word "or" was ignored in your query -- for search results including one term or another, use capitalized "OR" between words.
The following words are very common and were not included in your search: to be to be.
For my penny, I would have a list of "about 236,000,000" web sites that include the word "not." (Doubt me? Try it yourself.)
This is why this idea will fail. When a search goes bad, a web page turns out to be mirroring something seen elsewhere, or a the information is outdated or incorrect, we just move on. But when every one of these extracts a penny from us, we will get rightly angered by it.
Should I pay a penny for each X10 video camera ad that pops up? That would make the owner of that site richer than Bill Gates.
Nobody said that the web had to be profitable -- and no one is forcing site owners to leave unprofitable sites running. I know that I won't pay a penny a page for what is, more often than not, useless material and I think others will share my opinion. Make a site with valuable content and people will subscribe, but don't expect random visitors to just open their coin purse to you on blind faith that you will provide useful content.
Well, "much larger" is a bit of an exaggeration, although there's no doubt they added a bunch of useful instructions.
The Z80 had an additional 80 instructions. In an 8-bit CPU, that's a lot of additional instructions.
In fact, I believe Zilog Z80s (an 8080 clone with some extra instructions -- around 1977?) are still being manufactured as controllers in various products.
Clone is an unfair word. The Zilog had a much larger instruction set and many of the shared instructions executed in fewer CPU cycles. Not only is the Z80 still manufactured, it's even used in TI graphing calculators. It was, and is, an elegant architecture that's well-suited to many applications for which blinding speed and access to megabytes of RAM is not a necessity.
You are completely right re SPDIF, CPU cycles, and error correction. I spaced out during the post and, rereading it, I don't know what I was thinking.
I'm still not a real fan of multiple cables. I've got four IDE cables, 2 CD audio cables, a SPDIF cable, a floppy cable, and power cables to eight different drives. Even ignoring the non-drive-related cables, it's a bird's nest in there.
Ok, if fmaxwells' time is so valuable, what's he doing pissing it-away on Slashdot?
I participate on Slashdot for relaxation and entertainment. Trudging all over town to buy a CD is neither relaxing nor entertaining. Any decent contract software engineer -- even those just out of school -- make enough that saving $6 on a CD is not worth 15 minutes of their time.
Do you think that Steve Case's and Bill Gates' time is worthless because they occasionally go to a movie or take a vacation? Your lack of logic makes me think that the computer industry may not be the ideal career path for you.
Doesn't all CD and DVD drives have connections for Audio as it is? Both digital and analog, which you just hook up to the soundcard.
Most now have both analog and digital (SPDIF) but only the analog has any form of error correction. And the digital eats up CPU cycles and disc controller bandwidth.
Why should that be in the ATA/SCSI specification? If it doesn't touch the computers busses it seems redundant. (I mean that it goes directly from CD->sound card.)
To reduce assembly costs and help clean out the rat's nest of wires in a loaded computer. I'd like to see the audio go to the motherboard and then go from the motherboard to the sound card -- if a soundcard was used.
I firmly believe that the days of separate soundcards are numbered. 99% of the public will be perfectly happy with the built-in sound that is now present on so many motherboards. And it's only a matter of time until top-notch audio finds its way onto motherboards. Then the integrated audio in an interconnection spec makes a lot of sense.
Uh, hello? Audio is DATA.
Uh, hello? Audio is analog. It's not digital data and requires different cabling, drivers, etc.
If Busmastered DMA-transfers were cleanly implemented in IDE/ATA, problem would be solved.
No it would not. Error correction for CD audio errors is only done in the drive and can't be done externally because only the drives know where the errors occurred.
IDE - Integrated Drive Electronics is a severely brain-damaged spec inherited from the evil design choices IBM made back in 1981 in order to push the cost of the bus controller onto the drive mfgrs.
It was compaq who moved the Western Digital 1003 controller from the bus onto the drive. But I agree that IBM is largely to blame for this stupidity. Even my Ampro CP/M-80 system had a SCSI controller on it.
There's no technical reason SCSI has to be expensive today.
I agree with you 100%. The only reason that SCSI is expensive because IDE is so bloody popular and SCSI is only used in high-end (read $$$) applications. The production volume is not there to support a lower price point nor does the market demand one.
So why in the name of Nyarlathotep do you want an extra cable for audio?
Error correction (see above) on damaged CDs, zero bus and CPU load to play the audio. Make SPDIF output error-corrected, and that would solve the problem. But don't ask me to give up my CPU cycles and eat up my disk interface bandwidth to play an audio CD.
I believe the poster was referring to Serial ATA, which once again offers backward compatibility, and a significantly lower pin count: 8 (IIRC) vs. 80 (for ATA/66+).
Actually, while a great improvement, it still doesn't meet my criteria. As I understand it, Serial ATA is still limited to two drives per controller (master and slave).
What I want is:
1. The ability to use lots of drives per controller (like SCSI).
2. Low cost controllers and drives (like IDE/ATAPI).
3. Thin, round cables that incorporate power, data, and multiplexed audio (details to be worked out).
Not that it matters -- tests have shown the only real benefit of round cables to be that they are more flexible, thus easier to work with, and the airflow advantage they provide does not produce any noticeable improvement in system thermals.
It does in a loaded system like mine where there are five ribbon cables (4 IDE channels -- 7 devices -- and a floppy drive). They are also much easier to route neatly.
Not only do I realize it, but I have four of them and a round floppy cable in my system. But they are still huge and have ungainly connectors. I want something like coax or fiber.
Ultra 100 controllers are typically moving data at less than 1/3 of their rated capacity from almost any modern ATAPI drive. As the article says: In the speed arena, the added bandwidth an ATA133 compatible controller can give you is unfortunately not a selling point at this time. I always get a kick out of people replacing their Ultra 66 controller with an Ultra 100. They are invariably disappointed by the almost identical performance. Now everyone with Ultra 100 controllers can rush out and buy Ultra 133 controllers and experience that same disappointment all over again.
What Ultra 133 buys us is the ability to use drives in excess of 137GB. Suddenly, 160MB drives are showing up that use this new standard. And that's a lot of p0rn!
Now what I want is a drive standard that can support high speed, multiple drives (not just two) per channel, is low cost, and uses a better, more convenient, round cabling system (e.g. fiber, coax, etc.).
I don't know which is worse, not being able to copy cds, a relatively new problem, and the fact that people are willing to pay 19 dollars or more for any cd.
That's a great philosophy if you want the latest Backstreet Boys, Goo Goo Dolls, or Mariah Carey CD, but purchasing rare import CDs, doubles, etc. means that you aren't going to find them for $13.
There's a place down the road from campus here with just about anything you want for cheap, and if they don't have it, they'll actually offer to order it for you
I often buy CDs at lunch and whatever store is the closest to my work is the cheapest. As the old adage goes, time is money and if I spend an extra 15 minutes buying a CD for $6 off, I'll have lost a lot more in billable time than I could possibly save on the CD. I don't mean to sound like a snob and I remember when I used to have to save up to buy LPs that I wanted (yes, I'm probably a bit older than you). Back then, I'd drive all over town looking for the best prices. Now I pay for convenience. I go to the mall or shopping center near my work, grab lunch, drop by the CD store, and go back to work. Boy oh boy, my life sounds boring!
Except, the requirement to use the little CD icon is paying money, not meeting the standard. They never claim to meet the standard anywhere.
If you sell something as a Compact Disc, you are advertising that it meets the standards for a Compact Disc. Philips/Sony licenses the logo, but they do not verify conformity with specs for each item that bears that logo. It is the responsibility of the manufacturers using the logo to assure that the products that they sell meet the specification for audio Compact Discs.
Licensing issues have nothing to do with false advertisement claims. Suppose I license the USB logo and then produce a "USB mouse" that doesn't work with the USB ports on most computers. I would still be guilty of false advertisement even though I licensed the USB logo.
yea, but if a company makes it hard or near imposssible to copy it, there's nothing illegal or wrong with that.
They are selling the items as "Compact Discs." My computers, JVC MP3/CD car stereo, and Riovolt portable MP3/CD player all play Compact Discs. So if I buy a disc and it does not play in them, it is not a Compact Disc. The companies producing the disc in question will have wasted my time -- with is worth far more than the $19 price of the CD.
There is a standard for audio CDs and it is well documented. If these companies are going to sell something that does not meet the standard, then they should not be advertising them as being "Compact Discs."
You are a decent guy and I hope, whatever calculator you choose, that it serves you well.
There is a lot of history related to HP calculators. HP introduced the scientific calculator to the world with the HP-35. That was 1972 and it came with rechargeable batteries rather than the crappy little 9 volt battery clip. The HP-41 was standard equipment on the space shuttle. They have really revolutionized the industry and it's indeed a sad day to see them close down the shop.
...strike up the violin. TI-89 for life!
I have owned both HP and TI calculators. I have several of each. And I can say, without reservation, that the HP calculators are of the highest quality and last for decades. The TI keypads are doubling up numbers and missing keystrokes in a fraction of that time. This is a sad day when we have to choose between Sharp, TI, and Casio as our big-name calculators.
You remind me of someone saying "I'm glad Ferrari is going out of business. Chevy for life!"
This time last year,..well yeah,...by this time last year Billy Bubba Ray Clinton had already bent over and goat raped the economy.
...I'm a bit more stable and recovering from the summer 2000 crash.
..pull your head out of your ass you stupid inbred, and pay attention to the economy.
The economy was better under Clinton than any time in the recent history of the country. The stock market climbed faster under him than under any President before him. Clinton reduced the national debt by more than any President in modern history.
The economy has tanked under Bush. Unemployment is way up. The markets have dropped. The budget surplus that Clinton worked so hard to build up is just about gone. Economists are pretty much in agreement that we are in a recession. The last time the economy was this bad was under George Bush Sr.
From today's Washington Post:
Simply put, Americans are now likely in the stomach-churning, confidence-busting, penny-pinching middle of what may turn into the deepest recession in 20 years.
Well that's what's important -- some needle-dicked bug fucker like you "recovering." Take a look around you, stupid. The economy is in the shitter. Layoffs abound. Consumer confidence is down.
My IQ is genius level. What's yours, dickbreath?
This "deal" is the result of Bush getting into office (I won't go so far as to say he was "elected"). The message went out to Redmond loud and clear that this was a much more monopoly-friendly administration.
Please don't be so naive as to claim that Bush had nothing to do with this. The appointment of Ashcroft, the slashing of the budget to pursue the Microsoft case, and the removal of high-powered, experienced DOJ staff assigned to the case were all done under the Bush administration. They might as well have hung up a "Welcome Microsoft!" banner on the front of the White House.
Eye used spell checking on this massage butt, in genital, it don't find any thing wrong. Every word were spelled good accordian to the program. Do you no some thing that I donut?
(The above illustrates why spellcheckers are frequently of limited value without grammar checking software.)
after they stoped
You missed that one (and you didn't catch the missing commas, lowercase 'm' in "Mozilla", etc.) so I have no faith in you, either.
The socket for the CPU, whether on the adapter board or on the mainboard, will still have tabs for mounting a heatsink. The adapter could even, itself, be attached to the mainboard via the mainboard socket tabs.
Look at the design of PGA-to-slot adapters made to allow use of Socket 370 CPUs in mainboards designed for Slot 1 CPUs. You mounted the CPU on the board, the heatsink on the CPU, and the board in the slot. Worked fine. Look at the products to adapt CPUs from one family to another. These support voltage regulation and the use of a heatsink. (They are a stupid waste of money in almost all consumer PCs, but they point out the mechanical viability of such a solution.)
In fact, this would be a particularly easy one as there would need to be no significant offset between the two sockets. You only need to connect to four pins (3.3v, gnd, 2-pin thermal diode). The "output" could be a jumper to the two-pin power switch connector the motherboard. Problem solved.
If there is any company out there with even an ounce of marketing savvy, they will create an adapter board that contains the thermal protection circuit. It will plug into any motherboard's CPU socket and the Athlon XP/MP will plug into it. If they want to add more pizazz to it, they can add an alarm beeper, LEDs, or a temperature readout.
Think of the number of potential customers! There's a huge market of upgraders out there -- people with existing boards into which they'd like to plug an Athlon XP. Then there are server guys who have so many systems that failures are statistically guaranteed. With this device, they'd just have to replace a fan/heatsink. Without it, they've got to install a whole new CPU.
So now we will have a new version of Linux that can run BeOS applications -- most of which were ported from Linux.
Don't get me wrong. I'm a BeOS fan and have purchased the last two commercial versions. I'm sad to see it end, but you have to know when to admit that it's over.
I agree. BeOS was lightweight, quick-booting, and, as you say, smooth, quick, and responsive. Attempting to build a BeOS clone by starting with Linux is like trying to create a supermodel by dressing up Rosie O'Donnell.
It only takes one person to do that, not an entire community. But I see your point.
You aren't too clever, are you? Do you really think that citizens armed with handguns and rifles could have successfully stormed Chinese military bases and killed tank drivers and airplane pilots? Or did you think that the tank drivers would stop and get out in Tiananmen Square to get a breath of fresh air?
You have no power over a government gone bad if all you have are handheld guns. If you think otherwise, you've watched too many Rambo movies.
Grow up.