I know this is OT but do you have any info on exactly what kind of security hole gator poses? I just did an hour or so of research and can't find any hard info on why gator is bad (except the obvious privacy/ad swaping issues and physical security (someone walks up to your computer and they get to use all your accounts). I know the pswrd/CC info is stored on the local pc in an "encrypted file" (Gator didn't mention the type of encryption or keylength but my google search failed to turn up any gator password file crackers so...). Any info is appreciated.
Exactly - this is more the point, not that people don't know about spyware because they're ignorant, but rather because they don't care. My boss has Gator installed on his PC, he loves it and wouldn't let me remove it no matter what it sends back.
We can't save people from themselves, can't make the horse drink, and can't represent our moral-technical views as the views of others because, well, they just don't care.
Keep this in mind when you choose your battles, you battle for geeks, not for john q. public.
My AIW 128 Pro software and drivers suck, I don't even use the TV features any more, it just screws up my system too much, but I'd hoped they'd improve (dramatically) with the AIW 75/8500. After reading all the comments here apparently they have not. Which makes me wonder at first why this story was even posted (except, as some have noted, to show us the April Fools Slashfomercial post wasn't a joke) but think about it, even if slashdot did post this to advirtise for ATI (I'd tend to believe it was posted as news due to general lack of caring about what gets posted but...) it has worked great for the/. community. We all know now that the ATI drivers & software still, basically, suck and that my friends just saved me $200.
Now then, what I want to know is - what are the altrenatives? I just want a good converter/encoder with a coax in (to run from my VCR which I'll use as my tuner). Any suggestions on cards that don't suck? Hey, maybe/. will post a story about one of these too?
...wouldn't want to use this for any mission-critical computers...
Yea, but what about for home insulation? I mean, imagine a beowulf cluster of these keeping your house cool in summer, warm in winter (reverse the vent fans of course), and solving cancer-buster problems the whole year round.
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Really good point on it not being as... psychologically involved as it might have been, but then, the video game doesn't exactly have the story-line of, say, half-life. On the moan side we have one-liners (I'm missing you already was one of the better ones), a movie that's a half-hour too long, some rather silly anti-globalization commentary and the repetitive stress of things-can't-get-worse-but-then-they-do seen in say, Red Planet (but this was much more exciting then Red Planet IMHO).
BUT. But even though I left the movie moaning a little, I was also shaking, and I haven't stopped thinking about it since. This was a GOOD MOVIE people, barring Final Fantasy (which is comparing apples and oranges) it was by FAR the best video game movie made to date. The effects were great, the sets were a blast, and the movie didn't try to be something it wasn't. At least Milla wasn't spouting shakespear or wearing baggy clothes:)
As to the review DID THIS GUY WATCH THE MOVIE? It wasn't a 'lab experiment' that released the virus, the AI didn't have a glitch (it performed perfectly, exactly as it was supposed to - the Umbrella corp. had a moral glitch...)
Final line - as night of the living dead or Aliens VIII the movie fails, as Resident Evil it was great.
This is great - we don't need any demi-paranoid analysis to acknowledge that there are countries where the internet is censored in some way and where triangle + freedom create a relitavely safe way to exchange music. I mean ideas. either.
So A) howabout someone link to an explanation of how to set up a server and point triangle clients to you and
B) let's hear a little enthusiasm for freedom on the web - I recently searched, for example on "constitution united states" and found 2 sites willing to sell me 'chapters' of the constitution before I found the .gov site where it's published.
What's whrong with us, it seems like in some ways the internet has lost content since 1995 (when the gutenberg project was in full swing, muds and bulliten boards were all around and the microsoft EULA was, well, something no one read and it didn't matter.
You say 'based soley on superficial qualities" as if it were a bad thing. Chiana is the BEST reason to watch farscape and it's because she's SO DAMN SEXY - my (gay) housemate and I watched it transfixed throughout the first season, we talked about nothing but her.
Of course it could be argued that the qualities that make her so entrancing aren't exactly superficial, but whatever. The fact that Chiana got so low a score on this pole indicates the relative paucity of Good American Testosterone (c) in the male slashdot readership. Shame on you all!
as to 2) filter the politics - can't stress that enough. I don't think this falls under "stand up for your subordinates, it's more a managers job to act as a baffle and keep the geek pool very still and calm so they (we) can focus on what we're doing and not get distracted by all the social-political bullshit. Every good manager I've had has completely isolated the geeks from the politics, kept the situation calm and left [the] room for people to work in whatever way they choose w/o any of the corporate environment slipping in. That, and, of course, set the project up, aim well, and shoot - as much as possible never let anyone come down half way through the project and 'give their input'. Never, ever, let *anyone* from marketing near the geek pool. If anyone wants to see anything, you, the manager, show them and if anyone wants to talk to anyone you the manager relays the information along for them.
It's that simple. And that's why I'm no longer a manager, I hate doing all the things a good geek manager should do.
emphasis on any -security camera- if you try to use webcams you'll find most webcam drivers will not allow multiple instances of the camera to run on one PC - you have to either buy all different brands of webcams or you have to dig up some 3Com web cams, the only ones, to my knowledge, which support multiple cameras (they're out of production now but I've found them on E-Bay)
Why be so negative, I've been waiting for this since I first heard the idea (it was somehow related to Douglas Adam's website, I think he was talking about actually making a hitchhiker's guide to the earth w/ this type of technology)
The solution to your objection is simple, you create competing services - a BLOG-style service will leave personal notes ("I was looking up right here when I notice the tree limb above me was 1/2 sawed through. you might want to hurry along"), adverts (I really do want to know where the nearest beer is sometimes), etc. You'd 'subscribe' to the sites that interest you.
I can't WAIT to write impressions, all the weird things I see when I walk through my day and read what other people are thinking about/seeing standing wherever I am. Architecture and history tutorials / commentary (think if the guy from the movie "cruising" got one of these, I'd *subscribe* to his channel!). And truely helpful tourist tips, imagine Lonely Planet's offerings?!?
Come on, this is Amazing Technology We Want, don't dismiss it as another method for delivering advirtisements.
have you ever worked w/ Novell? i mean, when I first started looking at AD in w2k I said, oh, cool, they've finally got a directory service. right click, tabs, no problem. but the further I get into the w2k directory the more murky and entangled it gets. w2k directory is *not* a breeze if you're doing anything more than administering your home network, it, like other ms stuff, is more rube goldberg than anything.
OK Novell isn't a breeze either but they were doing it when MS thought windows 3.1 for workgroups was a server archetecture - it's... smoother.
oh and documented? don't make me laugh. half thier documentation is marketing materials and the other half is incomplete. Please don't mod this up for being anti-microsoft (i still work w/ ms every day, hell, i'm writing this off w2k server w/ ie), I just had to say that the w2k ad is way more wack than this poster seems to think.
speaking of "broken way" did y'all know that DNS and DHCP services (as implemented by ICS) are incompat. on the same server? Typical, MS can't even get their technologies to work with eachother.
OK as to the subject at hand I think wsh (presuming you can run wscript) has ADSI functionality that includes adding and deleting users, etc. - if you use ADSI for Novell, however, you need both the Novell and the Microsoft implementations of ADSI (cause neither really quite works on their own, at least that's how it was 2 yrs ago). If you want to use ADSI to access another LDAP provider lord knows what else you'll need. So much for common interfaces and standards...
As a non-programmer who has to program (ergo I use WSH), I find ADSI for LDAP to be a very easy, nice, cheerful way to access the directory.
ok then, how do we stay competitive? what if we don't like what is needed to stay competitive? competition, the law of the jungle, darwinism, these are things we're trying to evolve out of, not into, it seems to me that a lot of the language of globalization is devolving. Yes, cartelizing (I like that word btw) is not the way to go, I said I didn't know what the answer was (I'd love other's opinions) but I'm pretty sure 'we stay competitive' isn't an answer, well, at least not just left at that. What do you propose we do to stay competitive? And is utter, complete, no-holds-barred competitiveness good for humanity or does it lead to a race to the bottom situation where some benefit and most loose? I'd like to hear about how we can improve our lives, not how we can join a worldwide lottery with a one in a million chance of being one of the people who arrives on top at the expense of the rest of the population.
OK while everyone talks about how this is one facet of globalism and mention maybe we should be in italy protesting the g8 why has no-one, thusfar, mentioned this might be a wake up call for labor organization here? We in technology no longer own the golden goose, and it's going to continue to get worse (longer hours, less benefits, less than zero job security)
Personally I don't like modern labor unions at all - as far as I can tell they left their usefullness back in the industrial revolution, but we must find some model of labor organization that works for us or else pretty soon tech work will have all the status, pay, and benefits of other technical areas which compete w/ foreign labor (i.e. not plumming, which must happen at the site of the plumming, but rather think steel, autos, etc.).
It was in the register (my other regular read who scoops slashdot at least 1/2 the time BTW) - and people above seem to have been missing the point, yes, this is not gator or some other silly thing, it's spyware classified as a trojan by antivirus vendors because, it appears, no-one knows what exactly it does.
LINKS: - the register article zdnet on the trojan symantec listing the file as a trojan
Oh, they've blocked napster. dear. shut down that hot item before most of the world even knew about... wha? you say napster's already turned off? well it goes to show you what happens to a company when we block their ports
hey, yea, I remember in the woodshop my mom worked in there was a fridge with a hole cut in the front to run a beer tap out (keg of beer was all that was in the fridge - don't ask about beer + power tools, it was upstate New York) - are there any fridges with standard rack-width? you could cut a hole or two to run ethernet and vid cables. hrm, but condensation?
we have the same problem in our club's server room (don't all the clubs you go to have a server room?) - but there is no window (=basement). I've been asking for a non-venting AC (little floor model) forever but to no avail so we cut a hole in the wall to the outside and put a $10 fan in it. it did bring the temp down 10 degrees...
on this same thought line, has anyone else been over to cDc lately? They're offering to develop for the government the next generation of BackOrrifice to supplant Magic Lantern. Funny but some of their ideas are pretty good...
Actually, I.E. will automatically download (to the internet temp directory) and then 'run' certain documents -.doc files come to mind (not sure if this behavior only happens if Office is installed). Not to double guess the experts but it seems like if your.exe file was spoofed as a.doc file you *would* automatically download and execute it w/o any dialogue. For that matter, a.txt file, and even a.xml document will automatically load, or a.jpg, or blah blah blah.
Of course I can't test this because....
And I think I recall that ASP has the ability to control headers so you don't need to "control a web server," you just need to host your page on a web server with IIS installed so you can run ASP.
Civ III was profoundly boring - well, that is, profoundly un-inspiring, I liked CivII and played it forever and was hoping CivIII would be new and neat and I'd get to take over the world again but it's just CivII w/ some improvements (one of which is to make the game much, much harder but just harder is not really that interesting). Between the insipidness of the game and the foolishness of Interplay Germany CivIII & Interplay are now on my shit list alongside notables like Office 2000 vba, Hewlett Packard, and IIS FTP services.
On this line any homebound/hospicebound (think children with cancer, the elderly, advanced aids patients, people with disablities, etc) can benefit *greatly* from the community the internet can bring to their otherwise isolated lives. There was an article on slashdot about helping the elderly w/ computers that had, if I recall, some links to organizations that do this. Think globally act locally?
I also would argue w/ your opinion that tech does no good for starving people (server farm? let them eat servers!) - while it's an obviously true statement on one level think again. Starving people are starving because of insufficient infastructure, war, and oftentimes just plain lack of jobs and education. I don't think I need to elaborate on how technology in various forms can help these situations (yea, even war, if they get the world's attention to a problem (anyone remember live aid, south africa, or can anyone tell me why we helped in the balklands but not in rawanda? spotlight, mostly, IMHO). Basically the internet is a great way to send a message. Can you imagine a blog of a starving kid in some 'stan (Ubaki, kazi, wherever) - sensationalistic a-la Geraldo? sure. but it might get the kid enought attention to get some help.)
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OOOH, I can patent lethal injection, then refuse to license it out, stopping capitol punishment. hrm. can I patent war?
I know this is OT but do you have any info on exactly what kind of security hole gator poses? I just did an hour or so of research and can't find any hard info on why gator is bad (except the obvious privacy/ad swaping issues and physical security (someone walks up to your computer and they get to use all your accounts). I know the pswrd/CC info is stored on the local pc in an "encrypted file" (Gator didn't mention the type of encryption or keylength but my google search failed to turn up any gator password file crackers so...). Any info is appreciated.
Exactly - this is more the point, not that people don't know about spyware because they're ignorant, but rather because they don't care. My boss has Gator installed on his PC, he loves it and wouldn't let me remove it no matter what it sends back.
We can't save people from themselves, can't make the horse drink, and can't represent our moral-technical views as the views of others because, well, they just don't care.
Keep this in mind when you choose your battles, you battle for geeks, not for john q. public.
My AIW 128 Pro software and drivers suck, I don't even use the TV features any more, it just screws up my system too much, but I'd hoped they'd improve (dramatically) with the AIW 75/8500. After reading all the comments here apparently they have not. Which makes me wonder at first why this story was even posted (except, as some have noted, to show us the April Fools Slashfomercial post wasn't a joke) but think about it, even if slashdot did post this to advirtise for ATI (I'd tend to believe it was posted as news due to general lack of caring about what gets posted but...) it has worked great for the /. community. We all know now that the ATI drivers & software still, basically, suck and that my friends just saved me $200.
/. will post a story about one of these too?
Now then, what I want to know is - what are the altrenatives? I just want a good converter/encoder with a coax in (to run from my VCR which I'll use as my tuner). Any suggestions on cards that don't suck? Hey, maybe
...wouldn't want to use this for any mission-critical computers...
Yea, but what about for home insulation? I mean, imagine a beowulf cluster of these keeping your house cool in summer, warm in winter (reverse the vent fans of course), and solving cancer-buster problems the whole year round.
Really good point on it not being as ... psychologically involved as it might have been, but then, the video game doesn't exactly have the story-line of, say, half-life. On the moan side we have one-liners (I'm missing you already was one of the better ones), a movie that's a half-hour too long, some rather silly anti-globalization commentary and the repetitive stress of things-can't-get-worse-but-then-they-do seen in say, Red Planet (but this was much more exciting then Red Planet IMHO).
:)
BUT. But even though I left the movie moaning a little, I was also shaking, and I haven't stopped thinking about it since. This was a GOOD MOVIE people, barring Final Fantasy (which is comparing apples and oranges) it was by FAR the best video game movie made to date. The effects were great, the sets were a blast, and the movie didn't try to be something it wasn't. At least Milla wasn't spouting shakespear or wearing baggy clothes
As to the review DID THIS GUY WATCH THE MOVIE? It wasn't a 'lab experiment' that released the virus, the AI didn't have a glitch (it performed perfectly, exactly as it was supposed to - the Umbrella corp. had a moral glitch...)
Final line - as night of the living dead or Aliens VIII the movie fails, as Resident Evil it was great.
This is great - we don't need any demi-paranoid analysis to acknowledge that there are countries where the internet is censored in some way and where triangle + freedom create a relitavely safe way to exchange music. I mean ideas. either.
.gov site where it's published.
So A) howabout someone link to an explanation of how to set up a server and point triangle clients to you and
B) let's hear a little enthusiasm for freedom on the web - I recently searched, for example on "constitution united states" and found 2 sites willing to sell me 'chapters' of the constitution before I found the
What's whrong with us, it seems like in some ways the internet has lost content since 1995 (when the gutenberg project was in full swing, muds and bulliten boards were all around and the microsoft EULA was, well, something no one read and it didn't matter.
*sight*
You say 'based soley on superficial qualities" as if it were a bad thing. Chiana is the BEST reason to watch farscape and it's because she's SO DAMN SEXY - my (gay) housemate and I watched it transfixed throughout the first season, we talked about nothing but her.
Of course it could be argued that the qualities that make her so entrancing aren't exactly superficial, but whatever. The fact that Chiana got so low a score on this pole indicates the relative paucity of Good American Testosterone (c) in the male slashdot readership. Shame on you all!
as to 2) filter the politics - can't stress that enough. I don't think this falls under "stand up for your subordinates, it's more a managers job to act as a baffle and keep the geek pool very still and calm so they (we) can focus on what we're doing and not get distracted by all the social-political bullshit. Every good manager I've had has completely isolated the geeks from the politics, kept the situation calm and left [the] room for people to work in whatever way they choose w/o any of the corporate environment slipping in. That, and, of course, set the project up, aim well, and shoot - as much as possible never let anyone come down half way through the project and 'give their input'. Never, ever, let *anyone* from marketing near the geek pool. If anyone wants to see anything, you, the manager, show them and if anyone wants to talk to anyone you the manager relays the information along for them.
It's that simple. And that's why I'm no longer a manager, I hate doing all the things a good geek manager should do.
emphasis on any -security camera- if you try to use webcams you'll find most webcam drivers will not allow multiple instances of the camera to run on one PC - you have to either buy all different brands of webcams or you have to dig up some 3Com web cams, the only ones, to my knowledge, which support multiple cameras (they're out of production now but I've found them on E-Bay)
The solution to your objection is simple, you create competing services - a BLOG-style service will leave personal notes ("I was looking up right here when I notice the tree limb above me was 1/2 sawed through. you might want to hurry along"), adverts (I really do want to know where the nearest beer is sometimes), etc. You'd 'subscribe' to the sites that interest you.
I can't WAIT to write impressions, all the weird things I see when I walk through my day and read what other people are thinking about/seeing standing wherever I am. Architecture and history tutorials / commentary (think if the guy from the movie "cruising" got one of these, I'd *subscribe* to his channel!). And truely helpful tourist tips, imagine Lonely Planet's offerings?!?
Come on, this is Amazing Technology We Want, don't dismiss it as another method for delivering advirtisements.
Three words
Patlabour
Rojin Z
Appleseed
the good, the bad, and the ugly.
thank god that's only japanese manga and could never really come to pass.
have you ever worked w/ Novell? i mean, when I first started looking at AD in w2k I said, oh, cool, they've finally got a directory service. right click, tabs, no problem. but the further I get into the w2k directory the more murky and entangled it gets. w2k directory is *not* a breeze if you're doing anything more than administering your home network, it, like other ms stuff, is more rube goldberg than anything.
... smoother.
OK Novell isn't a breeze either but they were doing it when MS thought windows 3.1 for workgroups was a server archetecture - it's
oh and documented? don't make me laugh. half thier documentation is marketing materials and the other half is incomplete. Please don't mod this up for being anti-microsoft (i still work w/ ms every day, hell, i'm writing this off w2k server w/ ie), I just had to say that the w2k ad is way more wack than this poster seems to think.
speaking of "broken way" did y'all know that DNS and DHCP services (as implemented by ICS) are incompat. on the same server? Typical, MS can't even get their technologies to work with eachother.
OK as to the subject at hand I think wsh (presuming you can run wscript) has ADSI functionality that includes adding and deleting users, etc. - if you use ADSI for Novell, however, you need both the Novell and the Microsoft implementations of ADSI (cause neither really quite works on their own, at least that's how it was 2 yrs ago). If you want to use ADSI to access another LDAP provider lord knows what else you'll need. So much for common interfaces and standards...
As a non-programmer who has to program (ergo I use WSH), I find ADSI for LDAP to be a very easy, nice, cheerful way to access the directory.
ok then, how do we stay competitive? what if we don't like what is needed to stay competitive? competition, the law of the jungle, darwinism, these are things we're trying to evolve out of, not into, it seems to me that a lot of the language of globalization is devolving. Yes, cartelizing (I like that word btw) is not the way to go, I said I didn't know what the answer was (I'd love other's opinions) but I'm pretty sure 'we stay competitive' isn't an answer, well, at least not just left at that. What do you propose we do to stay competitive? And is utter, complete, no-holds-barred competitiveness good for humanity or does it lead to a race to the bottom situation where some benefit and most loose? I'd like to hear about how we can improve our lives, not how we can join a worldwide lottery with a one in a million chance of being one of the people who arrives on top at the expense of the rest of the population.
OK while everyone talks about how this is one facet of globalism and mention maybe we should be in italy protesting the g8 why has no-one, thusfar, mentioned this might be a wake up call for labor organization here? We in technology no longer own the golden goose, and it's going to continue to get worse (longer hours, less benefits, less than zero job security)
Personally I don't like modern labor unions at all - as far as I can tell they left their usefullness back in the industrial revolution, but we must find some model of labor organization that works for us or else pretty soon tech work will have all the status, pay, and benefits of other technical areas which compete w/ foreign labor (i.e. not plumming, which must happen at the site of the plumming, but rather think steel, autos, etc.).
just IMHO
It was in the register (my other regular read who scoops slashdot at least 1/2 the time BTW) - and people above seem to have been missing the point, yes, this is not gator or some other silly thing, it's spyware classified as a trojan by antivirus vendors because, it appears, no-one knows what exactly it does.
LINKS: - the register article
zdnet on the trojan
symantec listing the file as a trojan
(response - "c-c-c-c-cold..."
Oh, they've blocked napster. dear. shut down that hot item before most of the world even knew about ... wha? you say napster's already turned off? well it goes to show you what happens to a company when we block their ports
hey, yea, I remember in the woodshop my mom worked in there was a fridge with a hole cut in the front to run a beer tap out (keg of beer was all that was in the fridge - don't ask about beer + power tools, it was upstate New York) - are there any fridges with standard rack-width? you could cut a hole or two to run ethernet and vid cables. hrm, but condensation?
we have the same problem in our club's server room (don't all the clubs you go to have a server room?) - but there is no window (=basement). I've been asking for a non-venting AC (little floor model) forever but to no avail so we cut a hole in the wall to the outside and put a $10 fan in it. it did bring the temp down 10 degrees...
on this same thought line, has anyone else been over to cDc lately? They're offering to develop for the government the next generation of BackOrrifice to supplant Magic Lantern. Funny but some of their ideas are pretty good...
Actually, I.E. will automatically download (to the internet temp directory) and then 'run' certain documents - .doc files come to mind (not sure if this behavior only happens if Office is installed). Not to double guess the experts but it seems like if your .exe file was spoofed as a .doc file you *would* automatically download and execute it w/o any dialogue. For that matter, a .txt file, and even a .xml document will automatically load, or a .jpg, or blah blah blah.
Of course I can't test this because....
And I think I recall that ASP has the ability to control headers so you don't need to "control a web server," you just need to host your page on a web server with IIS installed so you can run ASP.
Civ III was profoundly boring - well, that is, profoundly un-inspiring, I liked CivII and played it forever and was hoping CivIII would be new and neat and I'd get to take over the world again but it's just CivII w/ some improvements (one of which is to make the game much, much harder but just harder is not really that interesting). Between the insipidness of the game and the foolishness of Interplay Germany CivIII & Interplay are now on my shit list alongside notables like Office 2000 vba, Hewlett Packard, and IIS FTP services.
On this line any homebound/hospicebound (think children with cancer, the elderly, advanced aids patients, people with disablities, etc) can benefit *greatly* from the community the internet can bring to their otherwise isolated lives. There was an article on slashdot about helping the elderly w/ computers that had, if I recall, some links to organizations that do this. Think globally act locally?
I also would argue w/ your opinion that tech does no good for starving people (server farm? let them eat servers!) - while it's an obviously true statement on one level think again. Starving people are starving because of insufficient infastructure, war, and oftentimes just plain lack of jobs and education. I don't think I need to elaborate on how technology in various forms can help these situations (yea, even war, if they get the world's attention to a problem (anyone remember live aid, south africa, or can anyone tell me why we helped in the balklands but not in rawanda? spotlight, mostly, IMHO). Basically the internet is a great way to send a message. Can you imagine a blog of a starving kid in some 'stan (Ubaki, kazi, wherever) - sensationalistic a-la Geraldo? sure. but it might get the kid enought attention to get some help.)