What on earth is everyone in this thread talking about?
The only issue I ever had with my webserver under comcast was when Code Red went around, they had port 80 to ALL customers disabled for a couple weeks. After two weeks, it hadn't let up, I called up customer service and said "hey my port 80 is still blocked." they said "oops, sorry about that." and fixed it.
Last time I glanced at AUPs, there was nothing stating that you couldn't run services, so long as you did not run services for COMMERCIAL PURPOSES.
How many businesses do you deal with on a daily basis where you are completely and totally unaware of any of their business dealings with other corporations, and really couldn't care less?
In at least the case of Verizon, where they at one point had several different billing systems, it was mostly a billing system issue. Since Verizon and Cingular are made up of a whole crapload of smaller carriers that were once regional or local carriers, their billing systems couldn't handle the deal.
Sprint PCS requires an address in the area where you are getting the area code.. but you can have the billing address be something else.
That might actually be FCC restrictions, not allowing them to sell numbers for say Detroit to a customer in Florida, I don't know that one.
I don't have all the whys, but I do work in the business.:D
Yes, it is possible, although the same rules do apply. I've seen it work, sometimes amazingly fast, sometimes, amazing slow.. sometimes the number isn't available to be ported into that system, though.
Porting OUTSIDE OF YOUR AREA is not always possible.
The numbers are still linked, geographically, to a specific place.
The carrier where you are going to at the very least, needs to have a presence geographically within the same market that your phone number came out of. I'm not sure how it works internally, but I'd be willing to lay odds that at least some carriers are unable to take a number from one area, and transfer it to another -- like they won't activate a phone for a customer that lives outside their presence area - they can't take a phone number from outside their presence area.
In THEORY, however, as long as both carriers have a presence in the same geographic telephone LEC, then they should be able to port.. they may have to set it up under your old address, then change the billing address.. but it could be done. If they don't have presence in the old location though, it ain't gonna happen.
Is that they want money from every commercial user of EVERY UNIX LIKE OPERATING SYSTEM.
Hmm. SunOS, Solaris, IRIX, HP/UX, AIX, Tru64, UnixWare, OS/390, NCR UNIX, UX/4800... that's all the true UNIXes according to Opengroup.
Of course, Linux still has to be proven free of Unix.. And Linux isn't really a UNIX, as it hasn't been certified as a true UNIX....This reminds me of this letter that I just got from the State of Michigan, that goes a little something like:
Due to a new law passed in October of 2003, you are now required to pay an additional $150 fine for a ticket that was issued to you in November of 2002.
I would presume that if I still had my 1990 Olds Calais, it would still be running. But, it was stolen, and I THINK sold for scrap parts, as I found what I believe was it's TRUNK LID attached to another car.. (it had very specific markings on it, unique to that one car)
My 1993 Daytona is still running (although it did have an engine put in it, a year ago.. that engine is from a 1991 vehicle.. the original engine had a severe mechanical failure from me seriously abusing it.. ie, i was stuck in 3 feet of snow, and trying to get out)
Cars from the 70's lasted a lot longer I think. But lots of early 90's stuff still out there.
come to think of it, i think i got the second one to spin, but it's data reading capabilities after the whack (or maybe just because of it's age) were very.. uh.. poor.
Most of what has the Sony brandname on it is pure junk. You pay $50 more for something for four letters: S, O, N, and Y. Then it breaks down, because all you really bought was a name of a product.
The only thing I'd ever buy with the Sony name on it again, are things that play Discs (CDs, DVDs, etc). Everything else I've ever bought had proprietary connections, and broke down way too easily.
I had a huge load of Sony CD-R's that I had not recorded on, turn to useless disks after sitting in a closet for about 4 years. I have no idea if I had written to them, they would have become useless as well. It looked like there was some knid of crystallized pattern growing on the side of the disk that takes the writing.
Also, the hard drives from my first two PC compatible computers failed miserably, while sitting there doing nothing. (granted, we're talking about a 20MB and a 30MB RLL hard drives) I attempted to recover the data on them when I got a 486 (so these two drives had probably sat for 4 or 5 years), and the drives would not spin up. Apparently the moving parts had sat idle for so long that they would no longer move. At a suggestion from a computer repairing friend, who's been in the business for as long as I've been alive, I whacked the back end of the drives,to try and get the platters to spin in the right direction.. that worked with one, the other one remained locked, forever..
I pulled 4.3.0 out of the "experimental" branch, I believe it was, months ago, already.
It worked fine, then. So, now that they've moved it to "unstable", it's broken? Great, thanks guys.
I live in fear of doing "apt-get upgrade" sometimes.
LOL.. yes, I know runnign a mix of "unstable" and "experimental" branches is just asking for trouble.. but except for a version mismatch that caused apt-get to uninstall more than half of my system a few weeks ago, I've never had any problems.. lol
I MAY be mistaken, but I believe that of the normal technologies, only CDMA has power adjusting capability standard in every unit. This could explain why many AT&T/Cingular/T-Mobile phones include EXTENDED life batteries that alst about the same length of talktime/standby time as a Verizon of similar make/model, that uses only SLIM-LINE battery.
AT&T GSM operates with SIM cards. I've never used a GSM phone (and I have no intention to, after the sound quality issues that everyone I know WITH a GSM phone has.. "what? what? what'd you say? call me back from a landline.") but I'm pretty sure that you at least have to inform the carrier of your actual handset's serial number changing.. that although the NUMBER and the MEMORY information is stored in the SIM card, that's just not quite enough to get the phone to operate -- otherwise there'd be a huge business in pirating SIM cards.. (then again, maybe there is...)
My former roommate had just started working for AT&T days before this happened. It was a 3 day outage, that took out the entire AT&T GSM network, and all accounts and account operations involving any customers with GSM equipment, is what she told me.
I've had very very few problems (although it's been many many years since I've had to) porting between Unixes (Unices?) as long as everyone had the GNU tools installed... now, trying to compile decent software with the supplied CC and tools on an AIX or HP/UX (at least several years ago) was just about impossible...
Not knowing what most of those are, I did a quick look at their web sites. It appears that for the most part, they are Python, and I know Python works in MacOS X (python works on virtually everything, doesn't it?).. Komodo appears to be the only thing that wouldn't work straight out. WideStudio would be of limited use, as it appears to create programs designed for Windows/Linux and not for Mac, but everythign else seems to be interpreted or script language products for making other interpreted or script language products??
... i mean exists for Linux. Sure, there's a zillion billion things available from sourceforge or from freshmeat.. but how much of it is useful? not a lot.
Can you name anything that can be done under Linux, that can't be done under OS X?
I'm a Linux user, on all my systems in my house, but the primary reasons are:
(a) stability
(b) i don't need any software besides instant messaging, web browsing, email, and chatting. because that's about all the useful software that exists.
For all you know, maybe one of the rides at Disneyland IS hiding one of the root DNS servers.
Well, considering the Win* calls can be pretty much hijacked from any point as long as you can get yourself access to the system, the only safe Windows box is one that's not able to run anything.
Because once someone DOES get ANY kind of access to run anything, then they can hijack the machine. yay!
it certainly does not, when the package server tells you that the downgraded version is newer than the older one with the bigger version number, or something.
it did all that automatically, i just ran apt-get update; apt-get upgrade; and came back about two hours later to find a metric assload of software gone.
Certainly smart, but probably not too out-of-the-ordinary. When I was 10, I was using Unix System III and had ported a few things that were built on SysV or other Unixes, to run on the non-TCP/IP capable System III box that I had access to..
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What on earth is everyone in this thread talking about?
The only issue I ever had with my webserver under comcast was when Code Red went around, they had port 80 to ALL customers disabled for a couple weeks. After two weeks, it hadn't let up, I called up customer service and said "hey my port 80 is still blocked." they said "oops, sorry about that." and fixed it.
Last time I glanced at AUPs, there was nothing stating that you couldn't run services, so long as you did not run services for COMMERCIAL PURPOSES.
And using VPN wasn't against AUP either...
How many businesses do you deal with on a daily basis where you are completely and totally unaware of any of their business dealings with other corporations, and really couldn't care less?
Hmm. I bet most.
In at least the case of Verizon, where they at one point had several different billing systems, it was mostly a billing system issue. Since Verizon and Cingular are made up of a whole crapload of smaller carriers that were once regional or local carriers, their billing systems couldn't handle the deal.
:D
Sprint PCS requires an address in the area where you are getting the area code.. but you can have the billing address be something else.
That might actually be FCC restrictions, not allowing them to sell numbers for say Detroit to a customer in Florida, I don't know that one.
I don't have all the whys, but I do work in the business.
Yes, it is possible, although the same rules do apply. I've seen it work, sometimes amazingly fast, sometimes, amazing slow.. sometimes the number isn't available to be ported into that system, though.
Porting OUTSIDE OF YOUR AREA is not always possible.
The numbers are still linked, geographically, to a specific place.
The carrier where you are going to at the very least, needs to have a presence geographically within the same market that your phone number came out of. I'm not sure how it works internally, but I'd be willing to lay odds that at least some carriers are unable to take a number from one area, and transfer it to another -- like they won't activate a phone for a customer that lives outside their presence area - they can't take a phone number from outside their presence area.
In THEORY, however, as long as both carriers have a presence in the same geographic telephone LEC, then they should be able to port.. they may have to set it up under your old address, then change the billing address.. but it could be done. If they don't have presence in the old location though, it ain't gonna happen.
Is that they want money from every commercial user of EVERY UNIX LIKE OPERATING SYSTEM.
...This reminds me of this letter that I just got from the State of Michigan, that goes a little something like:
Hmm. SunOS, Solaris, IRIX, HP/UX, AIX, Tru64, UnixWare, OS/390, NCR UNIX, UX/4800... that's all the true UNIXes according to Opengroup.
Of course, Linux still has to be proven free of Unix.. And Linux isn't really a UNIX, as it hasn't been certified as a true UNIX.
Due to a new law passed in October of 2003, you are now required to pay an additional $150 fine for a ticket that was issued to you in November of 2002.
Retroactively changing the agreement! W00t!
I would presume that if I still had my 1990 Olds Calais, it would still be running. But, it was stolen, and I THINK sold for scrap parts, as I found what I believe was it's TRUNK LID attached to another car.. (it had very specific markings on it, unique to that one car)
My 1993 Daytona is still running (although it did have an engine put in it, a year ago.. that engine is from a 1991 vehicle.. the original engine had a severe mechanical failure from me seriously abusing it.. ie, i was stuck in 3 feet of snow, and trying to get out)
Cars from the 70's lasted a lot longer I think. But lots of early 90's stuff still out there.
yeah, i knew it was something like that.. lol
.. uh.. poor.
come to think of it, i think i got the second one to spin, but it's data reading capabilities after the whack (or maybe just because of it's age) were very
I don't think Slackware OR Apache existed when Kernel 0.95 was common. Are you sure about this??
Most of what has the Sony brandname on it is pure junk. You pay $50 more for something for four letters: S, O, N, and Y. Then it breaks down, because all you really bought was a name of a product.
The only thing I'd ever buy with the Sony name on it again, are things that play Discs (CDs, DVDs, etc). Everything else I've ever bought had proprietary connections, and broke down way too easily.
I had a huge load of Sony CD-R's that I had not recorded on, turn to useless disks after sitting in a closet for about 4 years. I have no idea if I had written to them, they would have become useless as well. It looked like there was some knid of crystallized pattern growing on the side of the disk that takes the writing.
Also, the hard drives from my first two PC compatible computers failed miserably, while sitting there doing nothing. (granted, we're talking about a 20MB and a 30MB RLL hard drives) I attempted to recover the data on them when I got a 486 (so these two drives had probably sat for 4 or 5 years), and the drives would not spin up. Apparently the moving parts had sat idle for so long that they would no longer move. At a suggestion from a computer repairing friend, who's been in the business for as long as I've been alive, I whacked the back end of the drives,to try and get the platters to spin in the right direction.. that worked with one, the other one remained locked, forever..
I pulled 4.3.0 out of the "experimental" branch, I believe it was, months ago, already.
It worked fine, then. So, now that they've moved it to "unstable", it's broken? Great, thanks guys.
I live in fear of doing "apt-get upgrade" sometimes.
LOL.. yes, I know runnign a mix of "unstable" and "experimental" branches is just asking for trouble.. but except for a version mismatch that caused apt-get to uninstall more than half of my system a few weeks ago, I've never had any problems.. lol
I MAY be mistaken, but I believe that of the normal technologies, only CDMA has power adjusting capability standard in every unit. This could explain why many AT&T/Cingular/T-Mobile phones include EXTENDED life batteries that alst about the same length of talktime/standby time as a Verizon of similar make/model, that uses only SLIM-LINE battery.
AT&T GSM operates with SIM cards. I've never used a GSM phone (and I have no intention to, after the sound quality issues that everyone I know WITH a GSM phone has.. "what? what? what'd you say? call me back from a landline.") but I'm pretty sure that you at least have to inform the carrier of your actual handset's serial number changing.. that although the NUMBER and the MEMORY information is stored in the SIM card, that's just not quite enough to get the phone to operate -- otherwise there'd be a huge business in pirating SIM cards.. (then again, maybe there is...)
My former roommate had just started working for AT&T days before this happened. It was a 3 day outage, that took out the entire AT&T GSM network, and all accounts and account operations involving any customers with GSM equipment, is what she told me.
MARBLE FREAKING MADNESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I don't care how crappy the controller is, it's MARBLE FREAKING MADNESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I've had very very few problems (although it's been many many years since I've had to) porting between Unixes (Unices?) as long as everyone had the GNU tools installed... now, trying to compile decent software with the supplied CC and tools on an AIX or HP/UX (at least several years ago) was just about impossible...
Not knowing what most of those are, I did a quick look at their web sites. It appears that for the most part, they are Python, and I know Python works in MacOS X (python works on virtually everything, doesn't it?).. Komodo appears to be the only thing that wouldn't work straight out. WideStudio would be of limited use, as it appears to create programs designed for Windows/Linux and not for Mac, but everythign else seems to be interpreted or script language products for making other interpreted or script language products??
Although obviously this person was actually trying to be flamebait, from the comments at the end (anti-americanism??), every point made is true.
... i mean exists for Linux. Sure, there's a zillion billion things available from sourceforge or from freshmeat.. but how much of it is useful? not a lot.
Can you name anything that can be done under Linux, that can't be done under OS X?
I'm a Linux user, on all my systems in my house, but the primary reasons are:
(a) stability
(b) i don't need any software besides instant messaging, web browsing, email, and chatting. because that's about all the useful software that exists.
For all you know, maybe one of the rides at Disneyland IS hiding one of the root DNS servers.
Well, considering the Win* calls can be pretty much hijacked from any point as long as you can get yourself access to the system, the only safe Windows box is one that's not able to run anything.
Because once someone DOES get ANY kind of access to run anything, then they can hijack the machine. yay!
it certainly does not, when the package server tells you that the downgraded version is newer than the older one with the bigger version number, or something.
it did all that automatically, i just ran apt-get update; apt-get upgrade; and came back about two hours later to find a metric assload of software gone.
Dependency Hell is NOT negated by APT and Yum.
...
Example (not cut and pasted, just typed in by memory.. this is what happened to my system a few weeks ago):
apt-get update; apt-get upgrade
package-A requires package-B-2.20
downgrading package-B-2.30 to package-B-2.20
package-C requiers package-B >= 2.30
uninstalling package-C..
uninstalling everything that depends on package-C..
I ended up with over fifty things that I had to reinstall, to get my computer back in order after THAT fuckup.
Certainly smart, but probably not too out-of-the-ordinary. When I was 10, I was using Unix System III and had ported a few things that were built on SysV or other Unixes, to run on the non-TCP/IP capable System III box that I had access to..