I wish I had a link to it.. According to the CUA standards (CUA94 I think? maybe 92), which Microsoft was most definitely a contributor in, it made lots of standards for graphical user interfaces, and keyboard shortcuts and so on so forth.
what really upset me was the move from Windows 3.1 to Windows '95 changed the fact that Ctrl-Insert and Shift-Insert is no longer the defacto standard - The defacto standard that Microsoft helped create and agreed to.
Maybe it's just me, but I still can't get used to ctrl-x/c/v for cut/copy/paste. Ctrl-X is an end of file marker, Ctrl-C is a program stop, and Ctrl-V is just plain nothing.. that's the way it's always been, that's what the standards once dictated.
Well, he is fairly correct in that it is -not- particularly revolutionary in several ways, also. It's primarily another Unix variant. Yes, it runs on damn near everything from palms to wristwatches to gigantic server farms, but it's still a Unix variant, with nothing really super technologically outstanding about it.
What is different about Linux, as I see it, is that there are so many -options- available. When you go to recompile your kernel, you can choose what you want in it, where, when and how. This determines it's configuration,and it's size.. wether it's tuned for running on a wristwatch, or tuned for running a multi-gigabyte RAM server box. If you take a monolithic Linux kernel and build into it the most common set of drivers and supports, you end up with a mostcommondenominator system. It'll run, but it won't run as well as it could.
Another thing is that I think a lot of people see 'revolutionary' as 'new'.. and in computing terms, Unix, Linux, GPL, BSD, and everything Microsoft are definitely not new. I've been involved with free software for as long as I've been on the internet - the internet wouldn't exist, as far as i'm concerned, without the GPL'd software out there.
But it's not the GPL itself that makes it revolutionary.
It's the GNU tools backing everything that make it revolutionary. The GNU tools are the really pivotal point in the compatibility issues. I can take virtually any program source code out there that will compile in gcc on one machine, and go forth and compile it on any other machine with gcc and the proper library support.
Yes, some systems provide this and that neato-keen library that some author may have used that your system doesn't... but that's not a problem with GNU, that's a problem with the architechture of that Unix implementation/distribution.
Linux would be nothing without the GNU software. And the GNU software would still be something without Linux. The GNU software runs on virtually every platform, Unix and non-Unix based. And without that software, you'd have nothing to be talking about this subject with.
I'm under the impression that the validator is a little bit out of date, as everything i'm using checks with all the current reference materials that I have, and most of it i've learned from pages at http://www.w3.org/
I was going to moderate some things in this thread, but decided to pass, as I can't pass this up.
Just what hole are you guys living in?
Opera is a complete and total piece.
It's CSS support is virtually nil (or at least functioning properly CSS support is virtually nil). It's Javascript implementation totally rots.. it's integration with Java is a complete and total joke..
On the bright side, I use Opera to load any page that takes too long in other browsers. About 50% of the time Opera will fail when I attempt to do this.
I crashed Opera once, in a Java program.. and had to uninstall Opera, re-install Windows, and re-install Opera to be able to run a Java app from -anywhere- after that. (note: i didn't reinstall Java)
Opera has one advantage: it's as fast as browsers of years gone by. It's HTML4 support is good, but it's CSS is completely missing or totally bungled up. It downloads web pages lightning fast, but it's file download speeds are significantly slower than other browsers. If you don't need Java, Javascript, or CSS, then Opera is for you.
Being a new web author, I say screw being compatible with old browsers. I'm only using the latest specs on everything (as far as I know), and there's only one browser that gets it even close to right: IE 5.x. My page looks like a complete piece of trash in Mozilla, Netscape, Opera. Lynx and IE 5.x handle it just fine, though. Go figure. (of course, Lynx can safely well ignore any stylistic things)
Netscape/Mozilla's rendering of my page seems almost random - the same element in different places renders totally differently. Opera just fails to render half the page, almost as if it were in comments. It's laughable.
Umm.. I can't really say a whole hell of a lot, but this one is going to happen. At least, i know of a few companies that are dumping some funding into it.
Well, IP over Avian Carriers,... note that Sprint is doing Wireless DSL off the top of the Sears, and I remember reading an article a week or two ago about an ISP that wanted to bounce wireless DSL down from airplanes... hmmm...
No, I've never ever looked at a BSD topic before, because the only time I've ever in my life been interested in BSD was when when BSD had a network layer and Linux didn't. (anyone else remember back that far?)
And every time I've had moderator points (both times) all topics that I read were in the 'red' scheme such as this.:P
The other side of this is that the waitresses and bartenders that -do- know me, understand when i'm not so filled with money.
As a fellow programmer told me once, why save all your money till you're too old to spend it?
Across the border, we pretty much have for the consumer DSL grades ranging up to 1.5Mbps, although I have seen a few that cap at 2.0Mbps. I'm guessing that the phone company (Ameritech) is very interested in limiting people because their network just plain can't handle this stuff. In the area I'm in, the maximum limit is 144k DSL which just seems awful (and the only providers will give it up for $100+/mo).. Cable however, I range anywhere from 200kbit/sec to 5mbit/sec, depending on time of day. Sometimes, 4am I can hit speeds with another cable user of close to 10mbit/sec. In fact, I've downloaded files off N*pster faster at 4am than I have off my own 100mbit/sec ethernet LAN. (no node running windows on my LAN ever sees > 8mb/sec between computers on the LAN)
Exactly what did you expect him to say? Something that doesn't have a bit of a spike to garner our opinion towards him as good? Duh, he -is- a politician. His livelihood is being in office. Like any salesperson, he has to sell himself to the rest of the world to get votes from us. Duh.
well, I don't know about everyone else, but maybe since we do allr realise the revenue model behind banner advertising, maybe we -should- do a few more clicks on ones that interest us. See, when I see a banner ad that does grab my attention (even if i'm not interested, if it does a good enough job to get my attention, someone deserves a click) i right-click open a new window for it. On a good long web-browsing session, I might have 8-10 windows open that i'm ignoring until after i'm done reading what i wanted to read, then i go through all the open windows and check out the links, or wherever the banner ads sent me.
I hardly ever interrupt what I'm reading to begin with to go and check out a link [except when i'm at work, where opening a new window on a link is disabled], but i do always open a new browser window, wait for it to load to make sure i got something worth looking at.. and if i have time, i'll look ati t when i'm done, otherwise i bookmark it for later.
I'm also a person who tips pretty well at bars and restaurants too, not that I have a lot of money to throw around, but I understand how these people get paid, and unless their service sucks serious ass, at a bar i typically do $1/drink.. which is a lot heavier duty than most people in my area do, i think, since the bartenders/waitresses all know my name within a few visits and are all over me to serve me.:-)
Buying influence.. works even in the small time.
i'm kinda curious how one achives something like this. I don't want to advertise on my site, but I do want to display something on some pages while we're waiting for a rather lengthy query from elsewhere to arrive. I haven't really been able to find any docs/tutorials or anything on how you achieve something like this. So.. how about it?
My website is coded entirely in PHP.. even pages that really don't need it are PHP, just to keep everything in line with each other. Actually, since my topnavbar is PHP, i probably do need it everywhere now.. but..
if($HTTP_REFERER == "blah.xyzzy.com") {
Header("Location:/index.php");
}
I was about to mod this post to "funny" until after re-reading it for about ten times, I realised it did NOT say "Employing the 'Kotex' technology". Maybe I need to finally get some sleep, I've been on coffee for two days now.
Connectix did, however, bring us the era of cheap PC cameras, which they then sold off to Logitech. The QuickCam, which I have one sitting on my desk, the original B&W, was awesome for it's time.
The odds are pretty good that it will be out before the software is GA, anyway. That happens a lot within the pirate circles. 0-day and less warez are the coolest thing, and have been since the days of the Commodore 64...
carlos_benj: yeah, i was pretty saddened by that one.I didn't know about it either, apparently it was a few years back. I remember surfing for an obit for it at my old townhouse, so it must've been more than 2 or 3 years ago that he died. Cancer of some sort, if I remember correctly.
Guess we'll never know what -really- happened to Corwin when he walked his own pattern.
*LAUGH* yes, that I know.
Re: Copyright extension
Well, people do good and bad things in their lives.
Anyone who blasted Tipper during that time she was big with the PMRC (there, I remembered the name of it, two days later) was certainly to be applauded.
Not that it's an excuse.
But no one is always good, and few are always bad.
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what really upset me was the move from Windows 3.1 to Windows '95 changed the fact that Ctrl-Insert and Shift-Insert is no longer the defacto standard - The defacto standard that Microsoft helped create and agreed to.
Maybe it's just me, but I still can't get used to ctrl-x/c/v for cut/copy/paste. Ctrl-X is an end of file marker, Ctrl-C is a program stop, and Ctrl-V is just plain nothing.. that's the way it's always been, that's what the standards once dictated.
*shrug*
What is different about Linux, as I see it, is that there are so many -options- available. When you go to recompile your kernel, you can choose what you want in it, where, when and how. This determines it's configuration ,and it's size.. wether it's tuned for running on a wristwatch, or tuned for running a multi-gigabyte RAM server box. If you take a monolithic Linux kernel and build into it the most common set of drivers and supports, you end up with a mostcommondenominator system. It'll run, but it won't run as well as it could.
Another thing is that I think a lot of people see 'revolutionary' as 'new'.. and in computing terms, Unix, Linux, GPL, BSD, and everything Microsoft are definitely not new. I've been involved with free software for as long as I've been on the internet - the internet wouldn't exist, as far as i'm concerned, without the GPL'd software out there.
But it's not the GPL itself that makes it revolutionary.
It's the GNU tools backing everything that make it revolutionary. The GNU tools are the really pivotal point in the compatibility issues. I can take virtually any program source code out there that will compile in gcc on one machine, and go forth and compile it on any other machine with gcc and the proper library support.
Yes, some systems provide this and that neato-keen library that some author may have used that your system doesn't... but that's not a problem with GNU, that's a problem with the architechture of that Unix implementation/distribution.
Linux would be nothing without the GNU software. And the GNU software would still be something without Linux. The GNU software runs on virtually every platform, Unix and non-Unix based. And without that software, you'd have nothing to be talking about this subject with.
Think about that one.
I'm under the impression that the validator is a little bit out of date, as everything i'm using checks with all the current reference materials that I have, and most of it i've learned from pages at http://www.w3.org/
I was going to moderate some things in this thread, but decided to pass, as I can't pass this up.
Just what hole are you guys living in?
Opera is a complete and total piece.
It's CSS support is virtually nil (or at least functioning properly CSS support is virtually nil). It's Javascript implementation totally rots.. it's integration with Java is a complete and total joke..
On the bright side, I use Opera to load any page that takes too long in other browsers. About 50% of the time Opera will fail when I attempt to do this.
I crashed Opera once, in a Java program.. and had to uninstall Opera, re-install Windows, and re-install Opera to be able to run a Java app from -anywhere- after that. (note: i didn't reinstall Java)
Opera has one advantage: it's as fast as browsers of years gone by. It's HTML4 support is good, but it's CSS is completely missing or totally bungled up. It downloads web pages lightning fast, but it's file download speeds are significantly slower than other browsers. If you don't need Java, Javascript, or CSS, then Opera is for you.
Being a new web author, I say screw being compatible with old browsers. I'm only using the latest specs on everything (as far as I know), and there's only one browser that gets it even close to right: IE 5.x. My page looks like a complete piece of trash in Mozilla, Netscape, Opera. Lynx and IE 5.x handle it just fine, though. Go figure. (of course, Lynx can safely well ignore any stylistic things)
Netscape/Mozilla's rendering of my page seems almost random - the same element in different places renders totally differently. Opera just fails to render half the page, almost as if it were in comments. It's laughable.
Umm.. I can't really say a whole hell of a lot, but this one is going to happen. At least, i know of a few companies that are dumping some funding into it.
Well, IP over Avian Carriers, ... note that Sprint is doing Wireless DSL off the top of the Sears, and I remember reading an article a week or two ago about an ISP that wanted to bounce wireless DSL down from airplanes... hmmm...
No, I've never ever looked at a BSD topic before, because the only time I've ever in my life been interested in BSD was when when BSD had a network layer and Linux didn't. (anyone else remember back that far?) And every time I've had moderator points (both times) all topics that I read were in the 'red' scheme such as this. :P
just install aol, delete everything but the exe file. how hard can it be? as if you can't -FIND- AOL software?
The other side of this is that the waitresses and bartenders that -do- know me, understand when i'm not so filled with money.
As a fellow programmer told me once, why save all your money till you're too old to spend it?
Across the border, we pretty much have for the consumer DSL grades ranging up to 1.5Mbps, although I have seen a few that cap at 2.0Mbps. I'm guessing that the phone company (Ameritech) is very interested in limiting people because their network just plain can't handle this stuff. In the area I'm in, the maximum limit is 144k DSL which just seems awful (and the only providers will give it up for $100+/mo).. Cable however, I range anywhere from 200kbit/sec to 5mbit/sec, depending on time of day. Sometimes, 4am I can hit speeds with another cable user of close to 10mbit/sec. In fact, I've downloaded files off N*pster faster at 4am than I have off my own 100mbit/sec ethernet LAN. (no node running windows on my LAN ever sees > 8mb/sec between computers on the LAN)
All your base are belong to Boucher?
Exactly what did you expect him to say? Something that doesn't have a bit of a spike to garner our opinion towards him as good? Duh, he -is- a politician. His livelihood is being in office. Like any salesperson, he has to sell himself to the rest of the world to get votes from us. Duh.
well, I don't know about everyone else, but maybe since we do allr realise the revenue model behind banner advertising, maybe we -should- do a few more clicks on ones that interest us. See, when I see a banner ad that does grab my attention (even if i'm not interested, if it does a good enough job to get my attention, someone deserves a click) i right-click open a new window for it. On a good long web-browsing session, I might have 8-10 windows open that i'm ignoring until after i'm done reading what i wanted to read, then i go through all the open windows and check out the links, or wherever the banner ads sent me. :-)
I hardly ever interrupt what I'm reading to begin with to go and check out a link [except when i'm at work, where opening a new window on a link is disabled], but i do always open a new browser window, wait for it to load to make sure i got something worth looking at.. and if i have time, i'll look ati t when i'm done, otherwise i bookmark it for later.
I'm also a person who tips pretty well at bars and restaurants too, not that I have a lot of money to throw around, but I understand how these people get paid, and unless their service sucks serious ass, at a bar i typically do $1/drink.. which is a lot heavier duty than most people in my area do, i think, since the bartenders/waitresses all know my name within a few visits and are all over me to serve me.
Buying influence.. works even in the small time.
i'm kinda curious how one achives something like this. I don't want to advertise on my site, but I do want to display something on some pages while we're waiting for a rather lengthy query from elsewhere to arrive. I haven't really been able to find any docs/tutorials or anything on how you achieve something like this. So.. how about it?
I dunno about you, but I enjoy watching the M&M's commercials. Love those guys. lol
My website is coded entirely in PHP.. even pages that really don't need it are PHP, just to keep everything in line with each other. Actually, since my topnavbar is PHP, i probably do need it everywhere now.. but.. /index.php");
}
if($HTTP_REFERER == "blah.xyzzy.com") { Header("Location:
I was about to mod this post to "funny" until after re-reading it for about ten times, I realised it did NOT say "Employing the 'Kotex' technology". Maybe I need to finally get some sleep, I've been on coffee for two days now.
Connectix did, however, bring us the era of cheap PC cameras, which they then sold off to Logitech. The QuickCam, which I have one sitting on my desk, the original B&W, was awesome for it's time.
Create Life:
Insert Tab "A" into Slot "B". Repeat until it feels good.
Wait nine months. Bam. New life.
<APOLOGY>Sorry</APOLOGY>
quite alright, i knew that. :-P
The odds are pretty good that it will be out before the software is GA, anyway. That happens a lot within the pirate circles. 0-day and less warez are the coolest thing, and have been since the days of the Commodore 64...
carlos_benj: yeah, i was pretty saddened by that one .I didn't know about it either, apparently it was a few years back. I remember surfing for an obit for it at my old townhouse, so it must've been more than 2 or 3 years ago that he died. Cancer of some sort, if I remember correctly.
Guess we'll never know what -really- happened to Corwin when he walked his own pattern.
Alright, apologies for my tone there. :)
Good Luck.
yes, you might visit groups.yahoo.com and search for oldsmobile, too. :-)
*LAUGH* yes, that I know.
Re: Copyright extension
Well, people do good and bad things in their lives.
Anyone who blasted Tipper during that time she was big with the PMRC (there, I remembered the name of it, two days later) was certainly to be applauded.
Not that it's an excuse.
But no one is always good, and few are always bad.