You own the code, the information, and in my opinion you do have the right to modify the code.
As far as the GPL goes, releasing binaries is releasing a product, not releasing information.
if you are to follow the rules of freely sharing information, and having complete control over information, then yuo must release the code as well so that other people have free control and access to the information YOU provide.
Else you are taking all the information from everyone and keeping it to yourself.
Write the next apache and charge people a fee to download it from your website.
Dont sell the software, sell the service of distributing the software.
Control its distribution until you make a fair bit of money, and by this time other people will be distributing it and you can begin work on your next peice of software.
Also, a programmer can make money without selling code.
ISPs learned they could make money without charging by the hour or charging you for email, for FTP, for newsgruops, for every little site you go to, for every little thing you do.
ISPs figured it out. You can charge people for the service of accessing the internet itself.
Software can work the SAME way. Software distributors would be a site like say www.download.com, and they can charge $10 a month to everyone who needs software to access the site.
And guess what, I think everyone here would pay $10 a month if they had to pay that to access all the newest software. I would do it.
Of course people will distribute on their own, but having a fast connection to reliable sites like that would make it easier.
You see selling services makes money. It works for the internet and it can work for software.
This is not flame bait, I seriously believe that Piracy is good and I support Piracy.
Now before you call the FBI on me, No i am not a pirate, I use linux.
I support OPEN source.
I support the right of free sharing of information.
Services should be sold, information should be free.
Transgaming sells its SERVICE. Redhat sells its SERIVCE. This is how it SHOULD be.
When you write software, you are providing a service, as a programmer and provider of a service, yes you should be paid for that service.
However when i buy your 1s and 0s and load it onto my computer, I expect and in my opinion have the RIGHT to OWN those 1s and 0s running through MY CPU!
The information is OWNED by me, once you produce it, and owned by everyone else. This is what Open source is all about.
People who complain that piracy hurts programmers are blind to the fact that even without piracy they'd be making the same amount of money, the only diffrence is bill and the company would be millions of dollars richer.
Your code does not directly pay your salary, they dont pay you for every copy of software sold, if they did the makers of MS windows would be as rich as bill gates.
You will always make 100k a year or below, you will never get rich like bill gates. So why the hell make bill gates richer off of your services than he already is?
Oh wait, you have shares in the company and want them to be successful, ok you may have shares, but why not let your company go out of business and put your shares into redhat or some company which is Open source?
This issue is going to be debated, i know it, so let me prepare myself to be listed as troll, flamebait, etc etc.
Piracy has absolutely NO effect on programmers salaries.
The only effect it has, is on Bill Gates Salary. You must be a programmer. What? You think they will pay you more if piracy didnt exsist? Hell no, You'll make the exact same amount of money that you make now. The people who will get paid more are, Steve, Bill, and upper level management. NOT YOU!!!!!
This issue has absolutely no effect on you at all since you dont get paid on a per sale of software basis anyway, you get paid to produce the code.
If you ever heard of open source philosophy, programming is a service, the code is not a product, but information. Information is to be shared. Service is to be sold.
Sell your service to Microsoft. If Microsoft wants to try to get rich off of the information your service produces and somenoe pirates from Microsoft, Microsoft gets paid a few less million, so what.
I dont see this effecting the information producers, just the people who try to sell water in the desert it effects.
Programmers wont be bilionares even if their software makes billions. This isnt about programmers and hard work, its about CEO bill gates not having enough money for his new mansion
However its the programmers doing the testing, so the situation is pretty bleak unless you help with useability and arent an expert.
Ive been trying ot help.
An idea i had was to allow us to give feedback on important new features almost in talkback fashion, it was shot down because its said that a group of 5 people is all thats needed to properly do useability testing.
Problem is if all 5 are programmers, you have a serious problem.
This is why, by giving the average human more information, it wont make them care, just give them more weapons to destroy each other with.
Give bin laden the internet, and he'll learn to make a bomb.
Sadly enough, Bin Laden repsresents the majority of humans, most use the net for porn, games, or email, the rest use it to make bombs, and only 1% use it to actually learn something and out of that 1%, about half of them are forced to do so because of their job, school, etc.
Absolute 0? as if we somehow calculated the universe?
We only know how much matter is in it, we dont know how much space is in it
Time does not actually exsist, change exsists. The universe however never ends, simply changes, big bang was part of a change, and the universe will change to something else.
Is the theory which says, at any given moment the universe can simply destroy itself, and while the chances are 1 in a billion or something really high and unlikely, the possibility is there for ALL matter in the universe to cease to exsist.
Time wont end, just our lives. Even if matter no longer there in this form, its energy will still be there
Dark matter is increasing, the universe is going to expand until we are so far apart that we all freeze to death.
The universe will not collapse, that theory was proven false a long time ago. Since its proven that we are moving apart, Its safe to assume that we will move apart forever.
Also for big bangs, Big bangs happen all the time, in fact Big bangs are happening right now.
Ok, how much money would it take to create? As far as ideas i can think of a million better ideas than making some paper with 256 diffrent colors of grey.
Diffrence? They have money, I dont.
Ideas are worthless without money to create a prototype.
We already have the combat gear.
The government has the money to create a few prototypes of anything, problem is, its only a few prototypes and until it costs less than a few billion per suit, or per cloaked aircraft, etc it wont be used in real life situations.
Thats why stealth aircrafts made in 1960-70 are being used in such small numbers even thuogh they are 30 - 40 years old and also why old aircrafts are still being used even thuogh they may be 60 years old.
256 shades of one color is not impressive
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I'd rather have 256 diffrent colors, why the hell have 256 shades of GREY. That would totally defeat the purpose, an artist now can only use 2 colors on digital paper, and artists will be the first ones to buy this, cartoon markets will buy this and when they find out they can only use grey this will be useless.
As far as streaming movies, who wants movies in 256 shades of grey.
When they get 256 colors, then it will be decent, when they get milliosn of colors, then it will be revolutionary.
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NOT for you creativity.
In my honest opinion, no one owns it after you release it. You still are needed to create it though, so paying you for the service of writing the book would ensure you get paid in a world where you dont own the books you release.
Stop making excuses, it works for steven king, its working for redhat, its working for mandrakesoft, transgaming, so it can work for you.
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Contribute your code, write documents, or if you have no way to contribute, then pay. Read my sig.
Its already working, how do you think redhat stays in business?
You own the code, the information, and in my opinion you do have the right to modify the code.
As far as the GPL goes, releasing binaries is releasing a product, not releasing information.
if you are to follow the rules of freely sharing information, and having complete control over information, then yuo must release the code as well so that other people have free control and access to the information YOU provide.
Else you are taking all the information from everyone and keeping it to yourself.
Thats the problem with closed source.
Write the next apache and charge people a fee to download it from your website.
Dont sell the software, sell the service of distributing the software.
Control its distribution until you make a fair bit of money, and by this time other people will be distributing it and you can begin work on your next peice of software.
Also, a programmer can make money without selling code.
ISPs learned they could make money without charging by the hour or charging you for email, for FTP, for newsgruops, for every little site you go to, for every little thing you do.
ISPs figured it out. You can charge people for the service of accessing the internet itself.
Software can work the SAME way. Software distributors would be a site like say www.download.com, and they can charge $10 a month to everyone who needs software to access the site.
And guess what, I think everyone here would pay $10 a month if they had to pay that to access all the newest software. I would do it.
Of course people will distribute on their own, but having a fast connection to reliable sites like that would make it easier.
You see selling services makes money. It works for the internet and it can work for software.
Who says programmers must work for closed source companies like Microsoft? Programmers will always have jobs.
Government needs them, schools need them, people will always need programmers, and if software no longer sells people will make money via services.
Redhat has programmers and they all are making money. Dont forget Suse, and soon Mandrakesoft.
You dont have to sell the code, to make money, although selling the code sure makes it easier to make ALOT of money.
This is not flame bait, I seriously believe that Piracy is good and I support Piracy.
Now before you call the FBI on me, No i am not a pirate, I use linux.
I support OPEN source.
I support the right of free sharing of information.
Services should be sold, information should be free.
Transgaming sells its SERVICE. Redhat sells its SERIVCE. This is how it SHOULD be.
When you write software, you are providing a service, as a programmer and provider of a service, yes you should be paid for that service.
However when i buy your 1s and 0s and load it onto my computer, I expect and in my opinion have the RIGHT to OWN those 1s and 0s running through MY CPU!
The information is OWNED by me, once you produce it, and owned by everyone else. This is what Open source is all about.
People who complain that piracy hurts programmers are blind to the fact that even without piracy they'd be making the same amount of money, the only diffrence is bill and the company would be millions of dollars richer.
Your code does not directly pay your salary, they dont pay you for every copy of software sold, if they did the makers of MS windows would be as rich as bill gates.
You will always make 100k a year or below, you will never get rich like bill gates. So why the hell make bill gates richer off of your services than he already is?
Oh wait, you have shares in the company and want them to be successful, ok you may have shares, but why not let your company go out of business and put your shares into redhat or some company which is Open source?
This issue is going to be debated, i know it, so let me prepare myself to be listed as troll, flamebait, etc etc.
Piracy has absolutely NO effect on programmers salaries.
The only effect it has, is on Bill Gates Salary. You must be a programmer. What? You think they will pay you more if piracy didnt exsist? Hell no, You'll make the exact same amount of money that you make now. The people who will get paid more are, Steve, Bill, and upper level management. NOT YOU!!!!!
This issue has absolutely no effect on you at all since you dont get paid on a per sale of software basis anyway, you get paid to produce the code.
If you ever heard of open source philosophy, programming is a service, the code is not a product, but information. Information is to be shared. Service is to be sold.
Sell your service to Microsoft. If Microsoft wants to try to get rich off of the information your service produces and somenoe pirates from Microsoft, Microsoft gets paid a few less million, so what.
I dont see this effecting the information producers, just the people who try to sell water in the desert it effects.
Programmers wont be bilionares even if their software makes billions. This isnt about programmers and hard work, its about CEO bill gates not having enough money for his new mansion
I knew about Terminator 3 in development in 1999. This news is years old and they have been filming since early 2000
Just because i think something is cool doesnt mean everyone else does.
WE have kids in the USA who think its cool to be a gangster, who think being an outlaw is cool, and become criminals.
When you tell someon they CANT do something, it makes it COOL for them to do it.
Think about it.
We all know what happens to terrorists, check out bin laden hiding in the cave!
I wish we could rate the articles.
I'm talking about the majority.
And theres nothing i can do to make other people think a certain way, or enlighten people who dont want to be enlightened.
However its the programmers doing the testing, so the situation is pretty bleak unless you help with useability and arent an expert.
Ive been trying ot help.
An idea i had was to allow us to give feedback on important new features almost in talkback fashion, it was shot down because its said that a group of 5 people is all thats needed to properly do useability testing.
Problem is if all 5 are programmers, you have a serious problem.
This is why, by giving the average human more information, it wont make them care, just give them more weapons to destroy each other with.
Give bin laden the internet, and he'll learn to make a bomb.
Sadly enough, Bin Laden repsresents the majority of humans, most use the net for porn, games, or email, the rest use it to make bombs, and only 1% use it to actually learn something and out of that 1%, about half of them are forced to do so because of their job, school, etc.
Absolute 0? as if we somehow calculated the universe?
We only know how much matter is in it, we dont know how much space is in it
Time does not actually exsist, change exsists. The universe however never ends, simply changes, big bang was part of a change, and the universe will change to something else.
Is the theory which says, at any given moment the universe can simply destroy itself, and while the chances are 1 in a billion or something really high and unlikely, the possibility is there for ALL matter in the universe to cease to exsist.
Time wont end, just our lives. Even if matter no longer there in this form, its energy will still be there
Dark matter is increasing, the universe is going to expand until we are so far apart that we all freeze to death.
The universe will not collapse, that theory was proven false a long time ago. Since its proven that we are moving apart, Its safe to assume that we will move apart forever.
Also for big bangs, Big bangs happen all the time, in fact Big bangs are happening right now.
Ok, how much money would it take to create? As far as ideas i can think of a million better ideas than making some paper with 256 diffrent colors of grey.
Diffrence? They have money, I dont.
Ideas are worthless without money to create a prototype.
We already have the combat gear.
The government has the money to create a few prototypes of anything, problem is, its only a few prototypes and until it costs less than a few billion per suit, or per cloaked aircraft, etc it wont be used in real life situations.
Thats why stealth aircrafts made in 1960-70 are being used in such small numbers even thuogh they are 30 - 40 years old and also why old aircrafts are still being used even thuogh they may be 60 years old.
I'd rather have 256 diffrent colors, why the hell have 256 shades of GREY. That would totally defeat the purpose, an artist now can only use 2 colors on digital paper, and artists will be the first ones to buy this, cartoon markets will buy this and when they find out they can only use grey this will be useless.
As far as streaming movies, who wants movies in 256 shades of grey.
When they get 256 colors, then it will be decent, when they get milliosn of colors, then it will be revolutionary.
NOT for you creativity.
In my honest opinion, no one owns it after you release it. You still are needed to create it though, so paying you for the service of writing the book would ensure you get paid in a world where you dont own the books you release.
Stop making excuses, it works for steven king, its working for redhat, its working for mandrakesoft, transgaming, so it can work for you.
That would be revolutionary