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Terminator 3: Attack of the Terminatrix
jinx_ was among many who wrote in to say: "Arnold Schwarzenegger" is back for another installment of the Terminator Franchise. Reportedly a $30 million payday for Arnold.
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Robotics and Atificial Intelligence is going to a major transforming part of the next century and it is something that needs to be dealt with by all levels of society. Currently most of the debate on the matter is limited to a few people who know a lot. Movies about robots help bring the debate to all levels of society. - Steven
What sort of robotic enhancements can be expected in T3, now that the liquid-morphic villain has been played out already in T2?
Didn't he have some open heart surgery recently?
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From the article:
While plot details of "T3," subtitled "Rise of the Machines," have remained a closely guarded secret, the story is reportedly set 10 years after "T2" with a twentysomething John Conner and his T-800 cyborg pal, Schwarzenegger, doing battle with a female Terminatrix whose powers and morphing abilities exceed that of their previous nemesis.
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Here is the link to Terminator 3 on IMDB.
For some reason they seem to have movie info MONTHS before everyone else finds out about it.
Want to find out if there will be a sequel to your favorite move? Check out IMDB. I saw the austin power sequels about 6 - 8 months (including casting) before anyone else found out.
hm... maybe Arnold will give some of his money to the EFF
Good enough should have been left alone after T2; I'm not sure how you'd make a sequal to improve on that movie even with a younger Arnold and a Linda Hamilton who isn't sick of James Cameron.
But yeah, I'm sure I'll see it, but this is a big mistake.
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yes, but we're just taking a cheap shot at Attack of the Clones here....
Are they actually going to make this a Politically Correct type of movie? A Terminatrix? Or did they just need a reason for a sex scene?
It just seems funny. The first movie had an obvious heroine and hero; they both served their roles and made the audience happy by creating a loving relationship while also doing neat action sequences and screaming as a strange, mechanized killer attacked them. But this?
Possible Plot:
Terminatrix Seduction:
The entire plot of the movie rests in the fact that a 20-something male, as commented in the article, has absolutely no power over his... organs... and will fall easily into the hands of an incredily beautiful woman who asks him on a rather cordial date. I don't see how she could lose with this strategy.
Terminatrix-PC:
A new black Conner (to try to promote gender equality) is paired with Jackie Chan and Arnold Schwartz to provide the ultimate in "inclusive" casting. The Terminatrix will have the ability to morph into whatever type of socially unrepresented class happens to present itself, allowing for quick and easy resolution of unsatisfied audience demographic.
"The film is seen as a potential "tentpole" picture for the summer of 2003"
If it's anything like Robotrix, I'm sure it will be...
Asta la vista, career.
Wow, they're going to need some amazing make-up artists! Old robots might rust, but they won't wrinkle! ;)
Either ways, it'd be interesting to see what the new improved Terminatrix sports as a feature. The last liquifying capability of the earlier Terminator sent back was way cool, and they need to surpass themselves here.
Also, with a name like Terminatrix, I'm expecting so see some parodies/spoof on indie movie sites on the Terminatrix/Dominatrix theme. Should be fun, eh ?
For $30 million, Arnold Schwarzenegger will play the Terminatrix in drag.
Sounds a little bit like the recent noval set in the Terminator universe called "Terminator: Infiltrator". It focus on an older Conner and "Arnold" as a ... well that will be telling ;-)
The book is actually pretty good, and it also explains some plot holes (eg Didn't we win after T2?) in some pudo-logical ways. Go find it in the library or something.
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10 years ago, this type of movies was very popular. The formula was simple: Shoot, Kill, Talk witty comments, shoot some more. It was simple to make movies like the Terminator, Predator, and etc. And the movies was in fact, very good, simply because of their simplicity. However, I fear that the way people look at things in society today, and the producers/directors will to satisfy the audience, will screw up this type of movie today. It has happent before, and I'm quite certain it will happend again.
But, if the makers for some miraculous reason decides to make a new 80/early 90's movie, I will be the first in line at the cinema to see it.
A robot must protect the existence of the movie franchise as long as it does not conflict with the First or Second (or Zeroth) Law.
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wow, i saw this on the news friday night.
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T4 is also in scripting now. Maybe you guys should appoint an editor to take a look at Coming Attractions (http://something, something, corona.bc.ca, mumble...hell, I'm lazy, go look it up) once a year or so.
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What's all this whining about?
Terminator 1 & 2 were great movies, and Terminator 3 is propably entertaining as well. Arnold has really been the only person who could have done so well, and if he's older now, propably the role will be adjusted accordingly.
Arnold rocks, hopefully T 3 rocks too =)
I knew about Terminator 3 in development in 1999. This news is years old and they have been filming since early 2000
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there's no denying it, CNN says so, just look at the URL:
.../09/leisure.terminator.reut/index.html
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Readers of movie fan sites have known about this for a year and a half. See this link from Cinescape.
how are they going to explain that los angelas didn't, in fact, get nuked in 1996? or will they just play along with the original plot?
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First of all, it's hard to post at all because Willow is on and it's hard to divert my attention.
Concerning Terminator 3, my griend Google me that Linda Hamilton will not be returning, Eddie Furlong will be playing John Conner, is titled Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines, could possible star Chyna (WWF), will not be directed by James Cameron, up untill this past June there were talks that Ed Norton would be playing John Conner, and NoChickTrix will not be featured but is deffinatly worth checking out.
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Didn't they learn anything from the Alien movies? Alien was great, Aliens was even better, then Aliens 3 came along and sucked hind tit.
I can't think of too many movies that the third one has been all that good. Star Wars is the only thing that really comes to mind.
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"I'll be back!"
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Looks like it wasn't just a catchphrase after all.
Good thing he gave up his bid for governor: http://www.eonline.com/News/Items/0,1,7924,00.htm
"I'll be back... just after I get this hip replacement"
its wonderful that arnold s. is back for another installment in what could possibly be the most entertaining movie series of my generation, but other notable figures will not be played by the same character.. (for instance, the actress who plays sarah connor will not be signing on this one). can you really make a greater trilogy without the lack of consistent casting?
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if the future AI's just keep waiting another 20 years and sending back a new and improved Terminator, at what point will the new one be tough enough to beat the first one? You have to wonder.
Also, why not just keep sending back the newer and more bad ass ones earlier and earlier in Sarah's life instead of later and later when there is another Terminator there to help them.
A liquid morphic villian with big breasts. It will have hot robot sex with The Terminator and bring him back to the side of evil, where he rightly belongs.
In response to This poster. Terminator 3 will bring serious debate about hot robot sex out of academia to all levels of society.
"Arnold Schwarzenegger" is "back" to do "Terminator 3". This should be "good".
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Try the T3 page at UpcomingMovies.com -- Even more info than IMDB ...
You know, the last planet of the Apes movie that Charlton Heston made included blowing up the planet at the end. Some interviews said that this was so that it would be THE END of the saga. And then they made another.
They sort of tied up ALL the loose ends in the previous movie as well...it will sort of make the plot not as good to make another.
On the other hand, there are hundreds of Conan books, and lots of plots to choose from. Sword & Sorcery is a classic genre. I wouldn't mind if he (or someone else) made a few more of those. Heck, they could make twenty or thirty of them. I'd watch them when I wanted to see an action movie.
While I'm at it, I might as well mention a few other good movies that could easily have more sequels that I would like to see.
Ghostbusters (probably need different guys)
Tron (same idea, but with modern computer systems)
They Live!(I wanna see more of that fight scene - MUCH better than matrix)
HHGTG (except for make it a REAL movie this time)
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The series, as a whole, was great. The second movie was one of the best I have ever seen, and still is. I hope the third one is just as good. I'd like to see more of the future war myself, along with battles and stuff that go with the future war. Anyone remember the game Skynet? It was cool for its time, despite the bugs and shitty engine..
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The first movie was good, the second one sucked, the third probably will, too: how many fucking times is John Conner going to save the world?
The idea is to introduce a transitionary character, Terminatrix (aka Terwominatrix, turnin-a-trix, etc), and thus spark another series, not to show-case Ah-n'old. Using one movie to spawn another series is, well, very common, and as such, it should be an obvious ploy. Been done since Ben Hur, I believe :)
Arnold is a little bit older no doubt but he is still ARNOLD. 7 time Mr. Olympia, 3 time Mr. Universe, one of the best know faces on the planet. Arnold is awesome, any movie graced by his presence is awesome, regardless of the movie quality itself. Arnold has a presence about him that makes him almost superhuman. Arnold is the American Dream... what next, the Presidency?
Stop the whining about Arnold being "too old", he is in better shape even now at 55 then 99.9% of you twenty year olds out there. Arnold is Awesome, Arnold is back...
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<NERD><BR>Wasn't ole' Arnie's arm ripped off in a piece of industrial machinery at the end? Wouldn't that little tidbit contain the same technology that got the whole mess started to begin with? Isn't it feasable that someone else could have picked up that ball and ran with it?<BR><BR>
I feel so dirty....
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...the T800 lowered itself into the molten steel at the end of T2... How are they gonna explain that one away?
Don't get me wrong, T2 is one of my favorite movies. The good thing about the movie was that CG was so expensive and time consuming back then, that they were forced to use more or less real special effects, resorting to CG only when neccessary. This also made the dirtbike/motorcycle vs. semi truck chase scene one of the best. And remember the scene where the T800 peeled the skin off of his forearm to expose the machinery underneath? That wasn't CG, but if the movie were made today, it would have.
I'm just afraid they are going to (like every other damn movie these days) go way overboard on the CG, and ruin the effect. Linda Hamilton not playing Sarah Connor is going to suck also. Hopefully Edward Furlong will be playing John Connor.
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although many jokes can be cracked, i actually thought the terminator movies werent half bad. Shit, anything with Robots, 3d effects, Guns (plenty o guns), decent looking women, and the usuall running around saving the world kinda thing.
Hey thats why its action and not "linux specific robots running around killing windows users" it is what it is and thats it.
Expecting more or not acknowledging its target genre is your problem. I still think its worth a watch.
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He can't be the POTUS, he's not a natural-born American, and the constitution says the POTUS must be so. There was a survey done once, I think around the Papa Bush era that said Arnold would walk the election if he could stand - like Reagan, there was an idea he'd go for Governor of California first.
Happily for the those of us in the rest of the world that find the idea of electing a man to lead a country because he happens to be a bit of a self improver and in a few films utterly terrifying, it's not allowed.
It's the same reason Madelein Albright didn't stand.
Yes, I totally agree.
Awesome.
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Where can I get a copy of the screen play? I am interested in reading a copy. I have no problem showing my actors guild card. Any ideas?
"Not my manner of thinking but the manner of thinking of others has been the source of my unhappiness." - M
People have been making points about how the story could continue given details like the fact the terminated melted himself down. However, there are no problems with any particular story line, since time travel implies alternate futures. How could they one-up the technology in T2? Well, they could have a multi-verse ala "The One" where alternate universe versions of Skynet try to take over all universes.
In any event, there are an infinite number of possible simple stories they could use that would fit just fine, once you allow Time Travel *anything* is possible.
What a boost to the geriatric.
From the Upcoming movies website: Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines
"Shaquille O'Neal (in talks)"
Ohh....dear....god.....
Not another basketballer trying his hand at acting. And *again* might I add. He had some godawful thing that I dont think anyone ever saw, because they (should have) known how bad it would be.
...when asked to name their favorite 'love story' flik, back in 1995, many American males voted for T-2.
...think about it...how many men would go to all that trouble, just so they could save some girls skin.
Just because he is older, doesn't mean he is less suited to the role. Let us remember that he isn't REALLY the Terminator. He is just pretending. I am sure as he gets older, pretending is getting easier (gee, I know it is for me).
:)
I say bravo for taking on this enormous role
Oops. I just checked IMDB, and turns out there were several sequels to Planet of the Apes, so disregard my reply to parent.
Me should check facts before posting next time.
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That's all we really need is Star Trek 8 with different characters and settings...
"Imagination is the only weapon in the war against reality." -Jules de Gautier
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The logic behind this sequel is that at the end of Terminator 2, Sarah Connor says "The unknown future rolls toward us..." and explains that if "a machine, a terminator, can learn the value of human life: maybe we can too...". Apart from what James Cameron was implying about humans, this narrative also tells us something extra about the storyline. If Skynet didn't exist in the future, that would mean that none of the terminators would ever have gotten sent back and hence Sarah Connor wouldn't have any memory of them and could not offer us this narrative. But because she does remember, this means that somehow, somewhere along the line they failed and Skynet still exists in the future. This also allows the movie to make sense regarding time travel logic.
I assume this forms the basis for Terminator 3.
This was a big point in the second movie -- that the future was malleable, based on present choices and actions. So they don't need perfect continuity with previously established "future history." Events have already been (somewhat) altered by what Sarah, John, and Ahnuld have done...
He did say "I'll be back."
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Terminatrix actually exists as a movie already. Search amazon.com for it :-)
I just hope the Terminatrix is user friendly, and loves to interface.
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Yes. I am glad you said that, as someone had to.
Any movie with Amy Yip must surely be a classic :)
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is he suitable for the rold at such an old age?
What is the terminatrix?
Arnie, I need an exit.
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T3? C'mon, T2 wasn't all that good. What we really need is...
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Would be genetically engineered cyborgs. I mean, genetic engineering is a much bigger issue than it was when T1 or T2 came out. So my guess is that the Terminatrix is going to be some sort of human genetically engineered with cybernetic enhancements, while we're at it. But then again, the article said that the Terminatrix has shape-shifting abilities, so maybe not.
Speaking of the Hyperion Cantos, does anyone else think that they'd make a great set of movies? I can't be the only one who thinks so. I guess some of it would be hard to shoot, and of course a lot of it would have to be cut to fit the 2 hour time limit. But still, the Shrike is sooo badass.
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Strangely enough, it was approximately a month ago that I happen to be searching for DivX on Gnutella (I was looking for only legal videos of course) and one of the results was 'Terminator 3'. Although I'm the first to be skeptical of it's authenticity, the size was as it should be, and it wasn't comming from a system that had previously spewed out junk results. All I can say is that I tried to download it(at least the first few minutes) to see if it was a hoax, but the host was too busy (as is usually expected with Gnutella hosts with movies available) so I'm still not sure if it was indeed some sort of early version that got smuggled out, or just someone who created a file that was the right size, and made it available for others to download, as a joke (we all remember the bogus songs on Nappster don't we).
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People here have been saying that arnold is obviously too old to play a robot that doesn't age. May he will be playing the human being on which Skynet based the looks of the original terminator. Perhaps there's an interesting reason why that form was chosen.
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Hey, Arnold is getting older (54 years)... Maybe we will have to see him get a little help from a pill?
Just imagine... he connecting a disc with advanced sensorial perceptions, to upload the sex module... then a little oil here and there, a help from a new set of mechanical suspensions, and vòila! You have the strangest preliminaries ever filmed on Earth...
And heck, will he say 'I will be back' after the first cigarrete?
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The Terminator with Two naked butts and nude Linda Hamilton body double: $300 million
Terminator 2 with two naked butts and computer animation: $500 million
Terminator 3 with naked old Ahhhhnold butt, but sexy naked terminatrix butt and skin tight leather outfit, computer animation + audience full of sex crazed geeks: Priceless...
(or at least another Tomb Raider)
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The subtitle "Rise of The Machines" made me think this Terminator could show us the actuall moment of the cyborg/robots takeover and more of that terrible (but so cool!!) post apocalyptic world where the humans are hiding from the skull crushing skinless Terminators. This film could also have an older Arnie playing the scientist who invents the first Terminator and uses his own body as the cyborgs model. They should also bring the tone of the film back to what the original was, dark, instead of T2's PC "message of hope" and wussifying of the Terminator's natural (and so awesome!!!) killing instincts. P.S. Was watching Willow too, and in retrospect you can see the dark road of "cutesiness" that Lucas begins to go down in this movie, that ultimately incarnated itself into that steaming pile known as the Phantom Menace.
from what i remember from the 3D movie they blow skynet at the end. As for do better than the liquid robot, the liquid robotic spider was really cool.
As a novelty robot they could have many robot that come together to form a bigger one. Japanese would LOVE that.
Don't forget, there's the "sequel" that comprises the incredible ride (or 4-D movie, or whatever you want to call it; I'm not sure "ride" is appropriate) at Universal Studios. It may not be canonical to the series, but if it is, it muddles things even more (don't get me started on the Robocop Vs Terminator comic series).
For those who've never been, SPOILERS FOLLOW:
Sarah and John attempt to blow up the still-functioning and somewhat more overtly malign Cyberdine HQ but are once again attacked by a (presumably different) T1000. A (also presumably different) T800 takes John and the audience into the future, where the machine war obviously still happened. There, they blow up the land-based Skynet Central Whatever, after facing the T-1M, a gigundous spider-like morphing thing.
And so there are these open questions:
-what effect does blowing up the future Skynet have?
-is the T-1M a higher or lower tech creation than the terminatrix?
-if terminatrix is actually the next in the T series, does it have a floating point error?
Maybe skynet runs on linux ? ;P
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I think T3 will focus on the event of 'the first machine becomes self aware' ... like that will ever happen. Anyway, it should have no material effect on the story, even though 'the last chips' had been destroyed. It could very well been explained as a paradox, and whatever happened will happen ... in another dimension, if you believe in time travel. Personally, it gives me a headache whenever I think of it.
Terminator (both the original and the sequal) are probably included in the shining jewels of the Sci-Fi Movie Crown.
Consider this, like good sci-fi, the plot hinges on future scientific developements, in this case, cyborgs and time-travel. The plot isn't bad, even if it has been done before, and the acting is decent.
The sequal is actually better then the first. Like any good sequal, it doesn't rely on the plot of the first, but instead lets a new plot develop, but a plot that is tied back into the first movie. I especially like the part about the asylum - finally, blowing up stuff to save the world has consequences. There is also the redevelopment of the Terminator character.
All in all, good movies, and good sci-fi.
Which means, they'll probably rape T3 in the name of "profits", and hack the script to hell.
*Sigh*
It looks like Universal would rather deal with the Incredible Hulk than the Terminator.
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Heres some sites that show some intresting info on it. Search around goolge, theres tons of sites.
I am a HUGE Terminator fan, and would LOVE to see if happen. But, I have been very disappointed many times already. If it happens, I am sure I will be the first at the theater. Until then, I will forget about it and see what happens.
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I hate movie ads, and the ads for T2 were the worst, because they ruined a major emotional effect of the movie (this post contains the same spoilers hereafter, so consider yourself warned). If you watch carefully, you'll notice that in the first 20-30 minutes of the movie, there is no indication that the T800 is a good guy. Up until the scene when he first saves John in the hallway, the audience was meant to think that this was the same evil robot from the first one. But of course, by the time the movie was released, everyone had seen 200 ads for it, all of which gave that away.
Keep this in mind next time you see it, and notice how effective it would have been
The overall cost of bringing "T3" to the screen has reportedly been placed at $165 million to $180 million, which would easily eclipse the record $135 million believed spent to make "Pearl Harbor."
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Kevin Costner has issued a statement concerning the new "Terminator" movie's record-breaking budget of $165-$180 million.
"$180 million is NOTHING compared to my new movie. Just as we did in Waterworld and the Postman, we will break new ground in budgetary extravagance with my offering of the "Sanitationer!" This 5 hour opus details the struggle of an Assistant Sidewalk Sanitizer to uphold the American Dream in the face of a Post-Apocalyptic Breakdown of the United States Government due to Electronic Piracy. The movie will follow him, (played by me, Kevin Costner), from his first day on the street, to his final, gloriously uplifting confrontation with the bad guy. We are up to $249 million, and we haven't even added the bazookas yet!"
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I've seen both T1 and T2, I don't know how they can even make a T3. There's no real story line. The T-800 was destroyed and T2, yet this link says:
the story is reportedly set 10 years after "T2" with a twentysomething John Conner and his T-800 cyborg pal, Schwarzenegger, doing battle with a female Terminatrix whose powers and morphing abilities exceed that of their previous nemesis.
I don't get it. All the equipment, research, and so forth that created the terminator were destroyed! why don't they just leave it alone. There doesn't need to be a sequel. If they do one,it will suck big time the same as the sequels to Highlander sucked because they ignored the story line and principles set forth in the first movie!
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I believe it is called "suspense of disbelief."
Okay, let me understand this, the plotline is so bad, that Cameron won't have anything to do with it anymore, BUT, they won't bother to make the flick that Arnold was dying for I am Legend ???? The script alone has had me jonesing for this flick for the last three years, for the best adaptation yet of Matheson's book, one the THE best vampire stories ever.
Hollywood truly is intelectually bankrupt.
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I think he could play a PROTOSS. Would be a good movie too.
Who'd play Kerrigan?
Let's not stir that bag of worms...
He did say he'd be back...
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All of you complaining that there is no basis for sequels to T1 and T2 are ignoring one very important point: any movie based on the premise of time travel has built-in sequel possibilities. The SkyNet AIs can conceivably try over and over ad-infinitum.
;).
Besides, you didn't really think that they destroyed all of the intellectual property concerning Ahnold in T2, did you? Any company worth its 10Q filing has off-site backups
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I always heard that t3 was going to take place during the war (which supposedly took place in 1997 but I don't remember it) where SkyNet first attacked the humans.
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I'd love to see Ed come back to play John Conner. He would be a natural for the role. It's going to be hard to replace him. They can do a lot w/makeup to make him look the part.
Sure Arnold is getting old and it would be a shame to screw up T2, but ... "Details are scarce right now, but some plot points are known. The war against the machines and the humans will happen in 2001, and this film will show how it happens." What if they say the US the Predator drone armed with missiles in Afghanistan were the start of machine and human war that takes place in 2001 ... I would sure go to see it no mater how old Arnold looks.
I want to see more of the robot. that has always interested me
Actually, Arnie's arm is stick in the gear in the metal shop plant. The processor may or not be gone, but they only destroyed the hard drives etc, they didn't kill the people who actually worked on it.
At worst, they delayed the apolocolyptic future. Which would make sense since 1997 was the year all hell was supposed to break loose.
"Derp de derp."
One time, I was mentioning how Schwarzenegger doesn't take off his shirt during movies anymore, because of his muscle "shrinkage." Then somebody asked, "then how does he shower?"
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Even after watchin T2 the first time, I noticed the sequel-opportunity. Notice how, at one point, Arnold gets his robotic arm ripped off by a big gear in a factory. Also notice that later on, when he's saying bye-bye, going into the molten metal pool, he doesn't have that lost arm with him.
So, what happened in the original Terminator for the sequel to happen? Uh, the robot lost its arm in a factory, which was later on found by computer scientists and used to create the AI that would end up fucking humanity's shit up. Sound familiar?
thought that said "Terminex" when i first read it, and then thought, "Hm, that's odd product placement." whew, I really need that monday AM coffeee...
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Okay, everyone, STOP saying "But the T-800 destroyed himself -- how could there possibly be a sequel?!" If you've watched the T2 commercials, you'd know that the T-800s can be mass produced. And they all look like Arnold. Arnold plays a T-800 in T3; but he's not the T-800 from T2. Geddit?
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Ehh, I've got news for you. Arnie's partially puffed shlong bounced around in the beginning of the original Terminator.
The T-800 was melted but his arm was stuck in the gear and never got totatly destroyed.
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a female Terminatrix whose powers and morphing abilities exceed that of their previous nemesis.
If it has such great morphing abilities, why refer to it with a gender at all? Surely that's a matter of pragmatism for the Terminator, who picks a gender (or none at all) depending on the situation).
I'll bet that gender-issue-phobic Hollywood, though, doesn't have the Terminator changing from female to male as needed. Besides which, that would involve changing actors.
...as a bunch of horny, nerdy, male adolescents. Who else would wank over a "Terminatrix" (undoubtedly to be played by some pretty actress with large bosoms and little talent; q. v. _Tomb Raider_), but the same crowd for whom Seven of Nine was written into "Voyager".
Cheers,
hyacinthus.
... I think I can safely request that the studios cast Jeri Ryan of ST: Voyager fame
She just doesn't cut it in Boston Public.
PS: I may submit a script for the next one after this, where they go back in time 5 minutes before the previous event. The sequal to that will involve travelling an ADDITIONAL 5 minutes back, therefore changing the entire sequence of events.
Are you high? Listen:
>think of time as they did in "12 Monkees". (you can't change
>anything because you already tried to) So, at the end of T2
>they thought they changed the future, but they actually didn't.
> Everything happened just the way the T2 layed it down.
Hows about:
OK. We know Skynet exists ("will exist"? Damn. The language is inadaquate!) Why? Because 3 terminators and a human were sent back in time by a time machine Skynet built. No Skynet, no time machine. No time machine, no Terminators or Reese going back in time. But they _did_ go back in time- that's what the movies were about. So, Skynet _will_ exist.
But, you say, how can Skynet come into being? The scientist who did the research is dead, the futuristic mechanical arm and chip the research was based on are destroyed.
Easy. In the future, Skynet sends back an advanced model 'Terminator'. This one is a duplicate of the scientist, and is so 'human like' that it can easily pass as human to all our present technology (except maybe detailed CAT scans or something). Skynet also sends back a duplicate arm and chip. The scientist terminator bullshits about the events of T2, and 'continues' the research.
In the future, the humans re-capture the time machine, and send a 'Liquid' Terminator (Arnold) back to stop the Scientiist Terminator. The LT tries and tries to kill/destroy the ST, but some strange coincidences keep interfering. The ST eventually finds out that the LT is after him, and after seeing the trouble the LT is having, finally realizes that Time itself is protecting him. ST tries to tell LT what's going on, but LT still tries to kill ST several times. Finally, they come to an agreement- ST will simply continue the research and will do no harm to anyone (can't anyway- Time would stop him, too), and the LT will stop futilely trying to kill him (which keeps causing massive collateral damage).
The ST says he'll leave a message encoded into Skynet's system telling it what happened, and basically telling Skynet to stop time travel and destroy the time machine, as it is worthless- Time will protect itself from changes. This message will be time-locked and will be released just after the ST is sent back in time.
In the future, we see the humans racing to downlod the specs of the time machine (to presumably build their own so they don't have to keep fighting ove Skynet's) while Skynet realizes it has lost the war (the temporal part, anyway) and tries to destroy the machine. The end leaves us in suspense about wether or not the humans got the info.
I agree with you except the part on decent looking women. T2 was a great movie but Linda Hamilton is not that hot.
Wrong. It was the CPU from the first T-800 that enabled Miles Dyson to create his revolutionary microprocessor. (Quickly pop the DVD in my computer...) From the movie:
DYSON
The chip. Do you know about the chip?
SARAH
What chip?
DYSON
They keep it in the vault at Cyberdyne. (to the Terminator) It must be from the other one like you.
TERMINATOR
The CPU from the first Terminator.
SARAH
Son of a bitch! I knew it!
DYSON
They told us not to ask where they got it.
SARAH
(to herself) Those lying motherfuckers!
DYSON
It was scary stuff. Radically advanced. It was smashed. It didn't work, but it gave us ideas, took us in new directions. Things we would have never... All my work was based on it.
Besides, I really doubt anyone could create a microprocessor capable of birthing AI from a mechanical arm.
That said, there doesn't seem to be any obvious plot threads upon which to hang a sequel. But that's obviously not a sequel killer. Jim Cameron excised the original ending for T2 in which a future Sarah sits in utopia with John and her grandchild, telling of her successful fight for the future. He left it ambiguous to accent the idea, "the future is not set". But how they will justify the rise of Skynet now isn't very apparent.
We want some answers and all that we get
Some kind of shit about a terrorist threat
- Ministry
really, the special effects of T2 were incredible.
remember that scene where the evil robot "melt up" from a chessboard floor? that is sooo cool.
they sure have alot to live up to, and i for one will have so high hopes it'll probably turn out to be crappy.... naaah this is T3 damnit!"%%&
get xited
It's funny how the last name Dyson is used. I'm guessing that it is once again a reference to Freeman Dyson. Just like Macross Plus (an animation motion) where the main character has dyson as his last name.
In the wake of reports that "Terminator 3" star Arnold Schwartzenager experienced a mild heart attack this morning, Paramount Pictures has announced that he will be replaced on the set by William Shatner... ;-)
lol.. well shit neather was anyone else in that movie.. lol.. she wasnt that bad with a m-16 in one hand and those tank tops,, hehe, a bit scary but still kinda hot in a tough bitch kinda way, certainly not babe of the year ill give ya that much. heh.
vax
Okay, I think I've spent too long thinking about this.
"The question of whether a computer can think is no more interesting than that of whether a submarine can swim" -EWD
apperently he broke a few ribs in a motercycle accident. No worries though, he said in a press release that he'll be up and around by Christmas
Don't know if this will impact the scheduling of the movie but......
'Terminator' breaks ribs in motorcycle crash
SANTA MONICA, Calif. (AP) -- Arnold Schwarzenegger was hospitalized with several broken ribs after a weekend motorcycle accident, his publicist said Monday.
The 54-year-old star of the "Terminator" movies was resting at St. John's Health Center in Santa Monica after the Sunday afternoon crash, publicist Jill Eisenstadt said.
Schwarzenegger, who is negotiating to appear in a third "Terminator" film, was "in good spirits, feeling sore, but otherwise fine," she said.
"Don't worry," the actor said in a statement. "This won't affect my skiing with my family at Sun Valley (Idaho) this Christmas."
Details of the motorcycle accident, which also occurred in Santa Monica, were not immediately available.
Schwarzenegger underwent elective surgery to replace a heart valve in April 1997.
His new movie "Collateral Damage," which was postponed after the Sept. 11 attacks because it's about terrorism, now is scheduled to open in February.
link to another news source...
cross between "the matrix" and "jurassic park trilogy" (the series that keeps on getting worse). another movie taking a good story already done with class too far.
On the other hand, maybe they don't have the CPU or anything like it. But a robotic hand that came from a futuristic Terminator could teach us a hell of a lot anyway. So it would just take longer for those dudes to develop AI. And, they'd have to make it happen later anyway, because as far as I can remember, SkyNet was supposed to become "self-aware" (whatever the fuck that means) in 1997.
So check this out. The Connors' throwing Arnold and his shit into the lava did slow down the AI development, and change the future. But it didn't change it enough! Now, we'll be moving slowly with only the arm instead of the chip, so now SkyNet will become self-aware in 2013. But it will still rock our house.
Hey, why not?
Come on, give it up, that's
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"--And the title should sort of sound like 'Matrix' because 'The Matrix' was popular and people are so dip-shit stupid, that we can actually bank on them paying $11 a view just because it sounds similar to another movie they liked."
"Right again, Todd!"
--Face it folks. T2 was good because James Cameron, a certifiable loony toon ego-maniac, happens to also be very good at his job. That's it. That's the only reason. Feed T3 to generic Hollywood, and you can pretty much bet on a BIG PIECE OF STEAMING SHIT to come out of the other end.
Mmm! Hand me a bun!
-Fantastic Lad
The T3 book is by noted military Sci fi writer S.M. Stirling.
The Terminatrix is a bio engineered, almost all meat female. There is numerous implants etc with most of the T-800's weapons handling etc. So far the book seems quite good. I am assuming this is the book the movie would be made from but the terminator charachter is female.
The book includes details on various Terminator models: Original all metal exo's, exos with rubber skin, exos with improved skin, Bio exos, Living metal, etc.
(I know; I'm taking these movies too seriously and should get laid instead. Blah, blah, blah..)
One of my gripes with T2 was that Arnold was in it. (Not that I have anything against him.) Cameron explained away the 'fact' that his terminator looked the same as the one in the first movie, was that the terminators were mass-produced in a factory.
I couldn't buy into that, though, because the terminators were intended for infiltration. The pesky humans aren't supposed to recognize them! If they all look the same, doesn't that mess things up?
Each movie should have a different actor playing the terminator.
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T-800? Terminatrix? I don't care what they are, as long as they don't let the thing through aiport security.
problem- in T2, it was stated the the time machine was destroyed after they sent back arnold to prevent a situation just like this, i.e. sending back more technology and terminators
Remember, there were no nuclear weapons before women were allowed to vote.
I could see a robot built to look female. Or a female who could morph. Or a morphing robot.
But the combination makes no sense. Where exactly does her gender lie? Is she only able to morph into women? Does she have a particularly feminine outlook (for a robot)?
Will Arnold have to decide whether he lives or dies? That's all I want to know.
uhh.. yeah.
the end of t2 pretty much just reset the entire loop. cyberdyne systems will probably [i]still[/i] develop skynet, but much later than the timeline given in the first movie.
People will pass up steak once a week, for crap every day.
That's my theory, too. I mean, it can go any way we want it to, right? It is science fiction.
The question is, in T3, will John Connor try to stop the machines from wrecking shit in the first place? For example, are all the major cities going to be nuked? Or will there be some daring heroics in which John blows up SkyNet before it becomes self-aware? Lotsa possibilities!
BTW, your tagline is strong.
Come on, give it up, that's
I don't think this one should be made. The past two were good, I just don't think this one will have the same fate.
First: T-800 tries to kill Sarah
Okay, that's a good story. It was even proven (even with their low budget!).
Second: T-800 saves John from T-1000
Even better. I liked the T-1000 and it was all thought through and well acted.
Third: T-800 is John's "buddy" and tries to save him from the new bad guy (a chick with that has similar (only more powerful) abilities as the T-1000).
I already see falicies in this. First, everything was destroyed in T2. They could have had backups but, John would have destroyed them the second he found them (if not John, Sarah would in a second). He wouldn't make another T-800 which tried to kill his mom before he was born (even though he saved their lives, Sarah was too engrained with the thought of him trying to kill her). Plus, I don't like the thought of the new bad guy (err... girl). Maybe one more similar to the T-1000. Infact, I pray that they bring that character back. But, he's probably too busy pretending to be John Dogget on The X-Files.
Following the trend stated above, it should be the T-1000 sent back to protect him from a T-8000 or so... Just my opinion.
et al,
Are you telling me that you don't see the connection between government and laughing at people? - Interviewer
I guess even robots could change their mind and build another....