You do realize we are the ones who are going to lose our jobs.
Not CEOs, not managers, people like us, programmers, technicians, tech support, etc etc
WE will all be out of a job because of this and everyone thinks its good?
When felix from mexico takes your job as a programmer, and Kareem from south africa takes your job as a graphic designer, You'll be throwing a fit.
What you dont realize is, having more workers does NOT help the US economy, importing workers from other countries does NOT help the US economy, What helps the US economy is creating jobs for the workers here in the USA,
Not creating jobs for people elsewhere. Our economy will be fucked up when globalization is done with it.
How will you become a programmer when theres programmers all over china willing to work for cheaper?
Theres a minimum wage in the USA, we need a minimum wage globally, I mean if there were no minimum wage in the USA, minorities would have all the jobs because they'd always be willing to work for cheaper.
Its competitive enough as it is, why give the third world an unfair advantage of being cheaper than us and allowing them to work longer hours than us
How can we beat that? What? some wiseass from slashdot is going to say "Well we'll just be smarter"
I really doubt that considering these people dont have any distractions, they basically live in tents in the jungle or in small villages and can basically write programs all day and night, read books continuously, these people dont watch tv, they dont go to the movies, clubs, etc, you see? These people are more focused, and in order to compete with them, you'll have to give up all yourr free time to studying. why not just move to the third world?
We would be replaced by a guy in afganastan willing to work 14 hours a day for a penny an hour.
With no minimum wage why should any company ever hire you? I sure as hell wouldnt hire any americans if i can hire chinese people to do slave labor or some people in afganastan.
Think about it, you'll be out of a job!!!
Hows this help you? or them? the only thing which would help both us and them, is a minimum wage
I dont give a damn if companies save money, Its about US, not billionares trying to save money so they can buy a new mansion.
There should be NO ONE EXPLOITED, if globalization exsists, we get exploited because its US who will be replaced by cheaper harder working workers from the third world who work for less.
IN the US, should minorities get all the jobs because they will work for cheaper? hell no.
This isnt about the cost of living if people were paid by the cost of living we'd have communism,. we wouldnt have billionares like bill gates.
People should get paid what they are worth, period.
Do you really want programmers and computer experts in third world countries working for less, thus you are out of a job because they are cheaper?
When you are building a machine for a company you build it with the cheapest highest quality parts possible, to keep profits up and costs down.
Companies will have no reason to hire us because other people will always be cheaper than us and just as qualified, this will make the american worker obsolete in the most important field of information technology.
Listen, WE NEED FAIR GROUND, we cant compete with cheaper better workers who work longer hours and for less money unless we are willing to work longer hours and for less money. This means the cheapest worker sets the rate for ALL workers.
This is why we need a bottom floor, a minimum wage, so EVERYONE can compete with the cheapest worker and the person most qualified for the job be it in the USA or Afganastan gets hired.
We should not be hired based on who will do the job cheapest, because if thats the case, Americans will be at the bottom of the ladder, or we'll all be forced to work for the same rates as the rest of the world, So why not create a minimum wage and instead allow the rest of the world to make the same wages as us, at least this way we'll have a bottom floor.
Do you know why the pop up ad economy online failed? or the dot com economy failed? Ads got cheaper and cheaper until the ad business was no longer profitable.
This will happen to us with no minimum wage, the wage will be a penny an hour, and people from china will have all the programmer jobs.
DO you like your job security? or do you want to lose your job to a chinese perosn who will work 7 days a week for 14 hours a day for a penny an hour?
Anonymous coward its true slavery always exsisted in africa, it also exsisted in europe.
The diffrence between slavery in your own race and slavery in another race, in africa slaves werent trapped into slavery, oppressed, controlled, etc,
There was slavery in europe, however you could escape slavery by getting married to a nobel, your children could escape slavery through your hard work, if you are of a totally diffrent race however, once a slave ALWAYS a slave, theres no escape from it because anyone whos white instantly knows you are a slave, you cant run away and go to another town, you cant marry someone white and beat slavery, you cant ever get out of it.
So yes theres a diffrence between slavery inn the same race and culture, and slavery/oppression.
The reason the jews were able to rebound so quickly from oppression is because they could change their name and fit right in.
When that trade is equal, and when people in all countries make equal wages.
Trade works so well in the USA because we all make fair wages, trade wont work when you trade a penny for a weeks supply of food in africa.
Fair wage means someone in africa should make the same as someone in the US for doing the same job.
A programmer there should make 100k, a programmer here should make 100k, the minimum wage for a programmer should be 100k, period.
this would keep companies from exploiting poorer workers and paying them less, it would also make sure WE have jobs, because if they could get away with it, they'd hire 100 percent of everyone from isreal, pakistan and other places.
IF not for the minimum wage in the US, who going to keep rich CEOs in line? WHy shouldnt rich CEOs pay everyone pennies if theres no one to force them to pay everyone a fair wage??
Stupid IDEA? Getting a fair wage is a stupid idea????????!
This means, someone working at mc donalds in the US should make the same as someone working at mcdonalds in africa.
With a Minimum Global Wage, I can support globalism
But currently what we have is partial Globalism, Globalism which only benifits the CEOs and other rich people, Why hire people from the US when you can hire people from other places?
WE need a GLOBAL minimum wage so that everyone can have a fair chance at getting the job.
I an anti globalization because its always been our influence whos made other countries poor.
Africa had diamonds and many natural resources which were stolen from them by the british, China managed to fight the british off and they did ok, Japan did ok because they joined the club
Countries that did not do ok, mexico, africa, the middle east, its not so much because they were set up wrong, its because we interupted them.
Globalization should be something each country joins when they are ready, alot of countries arent ready, africa sure as hell isnt ready
alot of countries need to knoow how to gain control of their own government (africa) and alot of countries need to control poverty (Africa) And some countries need better education (mexico + africa)
Globalization wont do anything but turn these people into brainless zombie slaves working for a RICH CEO in the USA.
I dont see it helping me, or you, it only helps a rich CEO.
Example, via globalism cant this CEO hire people from other countries cheaper than hiring you? This allows him to save costs, but you lack a job because some guy in pakistan will work for next to nothing.
Until Globalism addresses the issue of wage equality, theres going to be a big big problem.
What happens when the global workforce is cheaper than we are, and more educated?
We are a republic, We have a small group who runs the country. Not really much diffrent than China which has a small group which runs the country.
Yes on the local levels we do have some control, but the federal government is fucked up.
Local governments are a democracy, Federal governments arent.
Countries can make progress easily, The problem with globalization that I have, is it seems like another attempt by the US to dominate the world, who benifits most from a global economy? Which country has the best economy? The country with the best economy is the country who is at the top of the ladder, capitalism is a pyramid economy, the global third world will be at the bottom of the ladder, and we'll become richer.
They may become richer than they are now, but I believe they'd be better off if they formed their own economy, China for example does not need to globalize, they have more than enough people to form a good economy.
Also something you dont consider which harms people in the USA, in a completely global information economy, why would anyone hire anyone from the USA? WHy would you get the job when someone from pakistan or asia can do it for cheaper?
Until each countries economy is absolutely equal, the global idea is unfair.
Globalism can be a good thing, when the time is right, but at the moment i believe the US benifits from globalism more than anyone else.
good idea on paper, bad idea considering the situation the world is in.
If each country had a seperate economy first, then entered the global economy it would be fine, but alot of countries dont have anyting to give to the global economy.
Re:math already allows this, its been done
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Time Travel
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http://www.zeosync.com/docs/index.htm
The Pigeonhole Principle and Data Encoding -
Dr. Claude Shannon's dissertation on Information Theory in 1948 and his following work on run-length encoding confidently established the understanding that compression technologies are "all" predisposed to limitation. With this foundation behind us we can conclude that the effort to accelerate the transmission of information past the permutation load capacity of the binary system, and past the naturally occurring singular-bit-variances of nature can not be accomplished through compression. Rather, this problem can only be successfully resolved through the solution of what is commonly understood within the mathematical community as the "Pigeonhole Principle."
Given a number of pigeons within a sealed room that has a single hole, and which allows only one pigeon at a time to escape the room, how many unique markers are required to individually mark all of the pigeons as each escapes, one pigeon at a time?
After some time a person will reasonably conclude that: "One unique marker is required for each pigeon that flies through the hole, if there are one hundred pigeons in the group then the answer is one hundred markers".
In our three dimensional world we can visualize an example. If we were to take a three-dimensional cube and collapse it into a two-dimensional edge, and then again reduce it into a one-dimensional point, and believe that we are going to successfully recover either the square or cube from the single edge, we would be sorely mistaken.
This three-dimensional world limitation can however be resolved in higher dimensional space. In higher, multi-dimensional projective theory, it is possible to create string nodes that describe significant components of simultaneously identically yet different mathematical entities. Within this space it is possible and is not a theoretical impossibility to create a point that is simultaneously a square and also a cube. In our example all three substantially exist as unique entities yet are linked together. This simultaneous yet differentiated occurrence is the foundation of ZeoSync's Relational Differentiation Encoding(TM) (RDE(TM)) technology. This proprietary methodology is capable of intentionally introducing a multi-dimensional patterning so that the nodes of a target binary string simultaneously and/or substantially occupy the space of a Low Kolmogorov Complexity construct. The difference between these occurrences is so small that we will have for all intents and purposes successfully encoded lossy universal compression. The limitation to this Pigeonhole Principle circumvention is that the multi-dimensional space can never be super saturated, and that all of the pigeons can not be simultaneously present at which point our multi-dimensional circumvention of the pigeonhole problem breaks down.
a 2d object would know know what 3d is, a 3d object would not know what 4d is, 4d is time/space itself is a dimension,
A mirror universe is simple a point in time which is possible, a point in time is a dimension, when you travel through diffrent points in time you travel through dimensions.
Time is like geometry and shape, it has a constant, that constant is it always moves forward, it can be measured like a shape, distance , and speed can effect time, which means movement through space and basic travel effects time, is time not a dimension?
Alot of scientists believe 4d is time, and time measures movement and change.
When did i say capitalism sucks? I said it wasnt perfect.
I dont really care about capitalism, i care about technology being open.
Capitalism has nothing to do with technology, the russians had more technology than with did with their communism, and plenty of socialist countries in europe have plenty of technology, as does socialist canada.
Anytime you are selfish, you are keeping someone else from having what you have.
If you take all the water away because you are selfish, no one else can have it.
If you take all the food, no one else can have any.
Most americans are selfish, including you oviously
Why? Americans take over the world, and use capitalism to control all the resources while third world countries get to starve and die. This is selfishness.
We have more than enough food to feed them all, and its not a money issue, its selfishness
Same with water, why the hell should we pay for water? Greed is why.
People dont want only what they need to survive, they want everything, this is why alot of people are against socialism and communism, communism is about helping the majority, and socialism is about everyone being equal.
With our technology, we could easily feed the planet, and no one would starve, no one would need water, everyone would have a place to live, and free medicine.
Its capitalism that allows us to live in mansions, have all of the medicines, and the best food, its also what pisses everyone in third world countries off
People in africa, china, afganastan, and other co untries hate us because we are greedy. We take everything and give nothing.
You cant take everything from everyone, and expect everyone to love you
You can expect everyone to try to be like you, even try to side with you, and become american like you, but they'll always hate you.
Its almost like slavery, look at the effects slavery had,. you still have black people in the USA who believe because of slavery, you were given an unfair advantage (assuming you are white) and they want some kinda payback for that.
Same with native americans.
So yes, theres a problem with selfishness, it creates hate,. war, etc.
Greed is evil, Selfishness is evil, If i want you to die, I can kill you because you consume my oxygen and drink my water.
Hell if i want all your stuff why dont i just take it, i mean who cares about you, I mean I'm selfish, only I matter right?
FUCK PETITIONS, THEY DONT WORK! heres a solution
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http://www.thelinuxshow.com/otc.htm
Join the open technology movement, the plan is for you to raise money via rallys and fundraising or however you can get people to donate, and then you donate that money to
Open Technology Movement
This will allow us to hire a lobbyist, and allow us to have even bigger fund raises, like marching in front of washington.
The only way to stop this is by actions, forget petitions. raise some funds and donate a few thousand dollars, if we all do this at our college campus's we'll be able to generate a few hundred thousand bucks
Slashdot Mirror
Darwinism assumes Darwin is right about everything and everyone.
Not everyone agrees with Darwin, theres 2 sides, people who believe in survival of the fittest, and people who believe in survival of everyone.
why? who forces them to drop prices? i see sneaker prices rising, mcdonalds too, and microsoft, video game systems, etc
You do realize we are the ones who are going to lose our jobs.
Not CEOs, not managers, people like us, programmers, technicians, tech support, etc etc
WE will all be out of a job because of this and everyone thinks its good?
When felix from mexico takes your job as a programmer, and Kareem from south africa takes your job as a graphic designer, You'll be throwing a fit.
What you dont realize is, having more workers does NOT help the US economy, importing workers from other countries does NOT help the US economy, What helps the US economy is creating jobs for the workers here in the USA,
Not creating jobs for people elsewhere. Our economy will be fucked up when globalization is done with it.
How will you become a programmer when theres programmers all over china willing to work for cheaper?
Theres a minimum wage in the USA, we need a minimum wage globally, I mean if there were no minimum wage in the USA, minorities would have all the jobs because they'd always be willing to work for cheaper.
Its competitive enough as it is, why give the third world an unfair advantage of being cheaper than us and allowing them to work longer hours than us
How can we beat that? What? some wiseass from slashdot is going to say "Well we'll just be smarter"
I really doubt that considering these people dont have any distractions, they basically live in tents in the jungle or in small villages and can basically write programs all day and night, read books continuously, these people dont watch tv, they dont go to the movies, clubs, etc, you see? These people are more focused, and in order to compete with them, you'll have to give up all yourr free time to studying.
why not just move to the third world?
We would be replaced by a guy in afganastan willing to work 14 hours a day for a penny an hour.
With no minimum wage why should any company ever hire you? I sure as hell wouldnt hire any americans if i can hire chinese people to do slave labor or some people in afganastan.
Think about it, you'll be out of a job!!!
Hows this help you? or them? the only thing which would help both us and them, is a minimum wage
I dont give a damn if companies save money, Its about US, not billionares trying to save money so they can buy a new mansion.
There should be NO ONE EXPLOITED, if globalization exsists, we get exploited because its US who will be replaced by cheaper harder working workers from the third world who work for less.
IN the US, should minorities get all the jobs because they will work for cheaper? hell no.
This isnt about the cost of living
if people were paid by the cost of living we'd have communism,. we wouldnt have billionares like bill gates.
People should get paid what they are worth, period.
Do you really want programmers and computer experts in third world countries working for less, thus you are out of a job because they are cheaper?
When you are building a machine for a company you build it with the cheapest highest quality parts possible, to keep profits up and costs down.
Companies will have no reason to hire us because other people will always be cheaper than us and just as qualified, this will make the american worker obsolete in the most important field of information technology.
Listen, WE NEED FAIR GROUND, we cant compete with cheaper better workers who work longer hours and for less money unless we are willing to work longer hours and for less money.
This means the cheapest worker sets the rate for ALL workers.
This is why we need a bottom floor, a minimum wage, so EVERYONE can compete with the cheapest worker and the person most qualified for the job be it in the USA or Afganastan gets hired.
We should not be hired based on who will do the job cheapest, because if thats the case, Americans will be at the bottom of the ladder, or we'll all be forced to work for the same rates as the rest of the world, So why not create a minimum wage and instead allow the rest of the world to make the same wages as us, at least this way we'll have a bottom floor.
Do you know why the pop up ad economy online failed? or the dot com economy failed? Ads got cheaper and cheaper until the ad business was no longer profitable.
This will happen to us with no minimum wage, the wage will be a penny an hour, and people from china will have all the programmer jobs.
DO you like your job security? or do you want to lose your job to a chinese perosn who will work 7 days a week for 14 hours a day for a penny an hour?
If we cant have a fair wage, if everyone cant start off on a fair ground
its no diffrent than say minorities in the US getting paid less than whites
Why? because they are less efficient? dont give me that bs either.
If they are truely less efficient why would big businesses be hiring them. eh?
Anonymous coward its true slavery always exsisted in africa, it also exsisted in europe.
The diffrence between slavery in your own race and slavery in another race, in africa slaves werent trapped into slavery, oppressed, controlled, etc,
There was slavery in europe, however you could escape slavery by getting married to a nobel, your children could escape slavery through your hard work, if you are of a totally diffrent race however, once a slave ALWAYS a slave, theres no escape from it because anyone whos white instantly knows you are a slave, you cant run away and go to another town, you cant marry someone white and beat slavery, you cant ever get out of it.
So yes theres a diffrence between slavery inn the same race and culture, and slavery/oppression.
The reason the jews were able to rebound so quickly from oppression is because they could change their name and fit right in.
When that trade is equal, and when people in all countries make equal wages.
Trade works so well in the USA because we all make fair wages, trade wont work when you trade a penny for a weeks supply of food in africa.
Fair wage means someone in africa should make the same as someone in the US for doing the same job.
A programmer there should make 100k, a programmer here should make 100k, the minimum wage for a programmer should be 100k, period.
this would keep companies from exploiting poorer workers and paying them less, it would also make sure WE have jobs, because if they could get away with it, they'd hire 100 percent of everyone from isreal, pakistan and other places.
Then Globalism can NEVER work.
IF not for the minimum wage in the US, who going to keep rich CEOs in line? WHy shouldnt rich CEOs pay everyone pennies if theres no one to force them to pay everyone a fair wage??
Stupid IDEA? Getting a fair wage is a stupid idea????????!
This means, someone working at mc donalds in the US should make the same as someone working at mcdonalds in africa.
With a Minimum Global Wage, I can support globalism
But currently what we have is partial Globalism, Globalism which only benifits the CEOs and other rich people, Why hire people from the US when you can hire people from other places?
WE need a GLOBAL minimum wage so that everyone can have a fair chance at getting the job.
Perhaps they dont want to work for someone else, perhaps they run their own businesses farming or whatever and will make less working for mcdonalds.
I'm not right wing either
I an anti globalization because its always been our influence whos made other countries poor.
Africa had diamonds and many natural resources which were stolen from them by the british, China managed to fight the british off and they did ok, Japan did ok because they joined the club
Countries that did not do ok, mexico, africa, the middle east, its not so much because they were set up wrong, its because we interupted them.
Globalization should be something each country joins when they are ready, alot of countries arent ready, africa sure as hell isnt ready
alot of countries need to knoow how to gain control of their own government (africa) and alot of countries need to control poverty (Africa)
And some countries need better education (mexico + africa)
Globalization wont do anything but turn these people into brainless zombie slaves working for a RICH CEO in the USA.
Mr.Coward, Yes a good education is needed, but we wont ever do that
Rich people in the USA likee having the education advantage.
You act as if third world countries had nothing to do with the US being rich
Who took over africa, took slaves, ruined their society, etc etc?
Kids in africa starve to death because you destroyed africa and stole their land, their people, and their diamonds and natural reasources
Hows this help the irish? Irish people dont want our companies there because now they cant start their own without competiting with ours.
We dont want our companies there because now we have less jobs because irish people are being hired
I dont see it helping me, or you, it only helps a rich CEO.
Example, via globalism cant this CEO hire people from other countries cheaper than hiring you?
This allows him to save costs, but you lack a job because some guy in pakistan will work for next to nothing.
Until Globalism addresses the issue of wage equality, theres going to be a big big problem.
What happens when the global workforce is cheaper than we are, and more educated?
We are a republic, We have a small group who runs the country. Not really much diffrent than China which has a small group which runs the country.
Yes on the local levels we do have some control, but the federal government is fucked up.
Local governments are a democracy, Federal governments arent.
Countries can make progress easily, The problem with globalization that I have, is it seems like another attempt by the US to dominate the world, who benifits most from a global economy? Which country has the best economy? The country with the best economy is the country who is at the top of the ladder, capitalism is a pyramid economy, the global third world will be at the bottom of the ladder, and we'll become richer.
They may become richer than they are now, but I believe they'd be better off if they formed their own economy, China for example does not need to globalize, they have more than enough people to form a good economy.
Also something you dont consider which harms people in the USA, in a completely global information economy, why would anyone hire anyone from the USA? WHy would you get the job when someone from pakistan or asia can do it for cheaper?
Until each countries economy is absolutely equal, the global idea is unfair.
Globalism can be a good thing, when the time is right, but at the moment i believe the US benifits from globalism more than anyone else.
good idea on paper, bad idea considering the situation the world is in.
If each country had a seperate economy first, then entered the global economy it would be fine, but alot of countries dont have anyting to give to the global economy.
http://www.zeosync.com/docs/index.htm
The Pigeonhole Principle and Data Encoding -
Dr. Claude Shannon's dissertation on Information Theory in 1948 and his following work on run-length encoding confidently established the understanding that compression technologies are "all" predisposed to limitation. With this foundation behind us we can conclude that the effort to accelerate the transmission of information past the permutation load capacity of the binary system, and past the naturally occurring singular-bit-variances of nature can not be accomplished through compression. Rather, this problem can only be successfully resolved through the solution of what is commonly understood within the mathematical community as the "Pigeonhole Principle."
Given a number of pigeons within a sealed room that has a single hole, and which allows only one pigeon at a time to escape the room, how many unique markers are required to individually mark all of the pigeons as each escapes, one pigeon at a time?
After some time a person will reasonably conclude that: "One unique marker is required for each pigeon that flies through the hole, if there are one hundred pigeons in the group then the answer is one hundred markers".
In our three dimensional world we can visualize an example. If we were to take a three-dimensional cube and collapse it into a two-dimensional edge, and then again reduce it into a one-dimensional point, and believe that we are going to successfully recover either the square or cube from the single edge, we would be sorely mistaken.
This three-dimensional world limitation can however be resolved in higher dimensional space. In higher, multi-dimensional projective theory, it is possible to create string nodes that describe significant components of simultaneously identically yet different mathematical entities. Within this space it is possible and is not a theoretical impossibility to create a point that is simultaneously a square and also a cube. In our example all three substantially exist as unique entities yet are linked together. This simultaneous yet differentiated occurrence is the foundation of ZeoSync's Relational Differentiation Encoding(TM) (RDE(TM)) technology. This proprietary methodology is capable of intentionally introducing a multi-dimensional patterning so that the nodes of a target binary string simultaneously and/or substantially occupy the space of a Low Kolmogorov Complexity construct. The difference between these occurrences is so small that we will have for all intents and purposes successfully encoded lossy universal compression. The limitation to this Pigeonhole Principle circumvention is that the multi-dimensional space can never be super saturated, and that all of the pigeons can not be simultaneously present at which point our multi-dimensional circumvention of the pigeonhole problem breaks down.
a 2d object would know know what 3d is, a 3d object would not know what 4d is, 4d is time/space itself is a dimension,
A mirror universe is simple a point in time which is possible, a point in time is a dimension, when you travel through diffrent points in time you travel through dimensions.
Time is like geometry and shape, it has a constant, that constant is it always moves forward, it can be measured like a shape, distance , and speed can effect time, which means movement through space and basic travel effects time, is time not a dimension?
Alot of scientists believe 4d is time, and time measures movement and change.
the US is partially socialist yes
democrats are socialists, republicans (well some of them) are pure capitalists
capitalists want to reduce the role of government until the government ceases to exsist.
When did i say capitalism sucks? I said it wasnt perfect.
I dont really care about capitalism, i care about technology being open.
Capitalism has nothing to do with technology, the russians had more technology than with did with their communism, and plenty of socialist countries in europe have plenty of technology, as does socialist canada.
Anytime you are selfish, you are keeping someone else from having what you have.
If you take all the water away because you are selfish, no one else can have it.
If you take all the food, no one else can have any.
Most americans are selfish, including you oviously
Why? Americans take over the world, and use capitalism to control all the resources while third world countries get to starve and die.
This is selfishness.
We have more than enough food to feed them all, and its not a money issue, its selfishness
Same with water, why the hell should we pay for water? Greed is why.
People dont want only what they need to survive, they want everything, this is why alot of people are against socialism and communism, communism is about helping the majority, and socialism is about everyone being equal.
With our technology, we could easily feed the planet, and no one would starve, no one would need water, everyone would have a place to live, and free medicine.
Its capitalism that allows us to live in mansions, have all of the medicines, and the best food, its also what pisses everyone in third world countries off
People in africa, china, afganastan, and other co untries hate us because we are greedy. We take everything and give nothing.
You cant take everything from everyone, and expect everyone to love you
You can expect everyone to try to be like you, even try to side with you, and become american like you, but they'll always hate you.
Its almost like slavery, look at the effects slavery had,. you still have black people in the USA who believe because of slavery, you were given an unfair advantage (assuming you are white) and they want some kinda payback for that.
Same with native americans.
So yes, theres a problem with selfishness, it creates hate,. war, etc.
Greed is evil, Selfishness is evil, If i want you to die, I can kill you because you consume my oxygen and drink my water.
Hell if i want all your stuff why dont i just take it, i mean who cares about you, I mean I'm selfish, only I matter right?
http://www.thelinuxshow.com/otc.htm Join the open technology movement, the plan is for you to raise money via rallys and fundraising or however you can get people to donate, and then you donate that money to Open Technology Movement This will allow us to hire a lobbyist, and allow us to have even bigger fund raises, like marching in front of washington. The only way to stop this is by actions, forget petitions. raise some funds and donate a few thousand dollars, if we all do this at our college campus's we'll be able to generate a few hundred thousand bucks