Well, seeing as the my Cell Phone Network is connected to the internet, it is entirely possible that it some how interfered. Let's not be stupid here, dumbass.
My stereo is connected to the internet, and the other night I was trying to play a CD and it was skipping really badly. Must have been Code Red.
Look, things work in certain ways - this isn't voodoo we're talking about here. Unless you can postulate a vector by which Code Red would cause cell phone outages, I'll reserve my right to make fun of such assertions.
The outtakes at the end were a little disappointing though, they're usually much funnnier than that.
I don't know where you saw it, but where I did (Union Station, DC) the very last one (Chris Tucker's quip) had the theater laughing harder than I've ever heard a movie theater crowd laugh in my life.
I noticed this afternoon, I could not make any calls on my cell phone. I called customer support serveral times. They were busy. I guessed they were having problems with their network. My friend, who is on a defferent network (I am on Rogers AT&T Canada, he is on Fido Canada), also could not make any calls. Could it be that this worm brought down some cell phone networks?
Absolutely. Never forget that all observed phenomena have direct causal relationships. The one you find the most offensive is always to blame.
Another weird thing the worm did was mess with the weather in Bethesda, MD today. It was hot and sunny around 4:30pm, yet there was a torrential downpour. The sun never went away. Damn worm.
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Why the hell would we need default.ida to xploit IIS?
Plus, imagine how much bandwith would be wasted with that.. and more, Apache runs mostly on Linux or other Unix based OS, so CR is not efective against them..
Either you didn't read the message at all, or you are an extremely dumb person.
What he's suggesting is to set up Apache so that it will automatically repair any IIS servers that attack it.
Has nothing to do with whether Apache is vulnerable to anything.
I've had the opposite experience. I got over 60 hits in the first round of the Code Red worm, and 32 from this round tonight.
It depends on your machine's neighbors. If it's in a subnet with a lot of vulnerabe Microsoft machines, it's going to get hammered. If it's in a well-run subnet, it will only see the odd random probes.
Machines I have in colo centers with small numbers of IPs (backup name servers, etc.) are really getting the treatment. Likewise the servers in a UUnet/26 (so presumably someone else in the Class C is an MS shop - never imagined I'd care). The rest of the stuff, in scattered/24s, is not seeing much of it at all (usually 5 or 6 log entries at this point).
They are nearly a billion dollars in debt. You can't look at their assets without looking at their liabilities. The service is US$75-80 per month, and at just 50,000 customers, how will they ever get out of debt?
The company is being auctioned off by the creditors. One would assume this means there would be no debt after it's sold; the creditors are writing everything off and just splitting whatever the auction brings in.
Which begs the question, just HOW MUCH do one of these pizzas cost?
Not very much, I wouldn't think. The most expensive meal I ever ate in Malaysia was at Pizza Hut in Penang (it was after a long ferry ride across the straits of Malacca and my stomach was too queasy for anything but ultra-bland food). A large pizza and a pitcher of soda, which two of us split, came to a total of $7.
Other than that, I've never had a meal in Malaysia (despite eating an awful lot of meals there) come in at over $2. The country is a paradise of cheap and fabulous food. Which begs a very different question: Aside from seasick foreigners, who there would want to eat pizza of all things?
If there wasn't such a danger of getting killed just because I'm white and american, I would love to be involved for a while. Sigh.
What on earth makes you think you're in danger of getting killed because you're white and/or American?
Outside of Algeria, with its rebels' "death to foreigners" pledge, you'll be welcomed as an honored guest almost anywhere you go. Even in Algeria they seem to have more or less given that crap up.
People recognize that you're not part of their local struggles, and in my experience throughout Africa most people want nothing more than a chance to explain their views on what's going on, throw in an exclaimed "America very good country!" or two, and hear some stories about what life is like elsewhere. You'll see more people wearing stars-and-stripes gear (T-shirts, baseball caps, stickers on bikes and cars, etc.) than in the USA on the 4th of July. I've hitchhiked across the continent and never experienced anything but overwhelming hospitality (and the occasional upset stomach; that's your real worry in Africa).
The original poster is not dumb. He's making a valid point that they don't need the Internet before the need basic nessisities
I don't think the point's all that valid.
What most troubled sub-saharan African countries really need is a functioning economy. People who are working together to get rich are far less likely to hack each other to bits just because someone on the radio tells them to.
An efficient economy depends very much on access to information (market prices, technical information, etc.) and on communication (widening the pool of buyers and sellers).
Without this, they get to develop it the hard, tried-and-true way: Over 1000 or more years. Why not give them a leg up?
We always toot that information is free, and once you get online, even with an old discarded 486 running Arachne, you've got access. This means that, theoretically, anyone with access can become a coder. Even little African kids who'll work for a bowl of rice. Will you work for a bowl of rice? Then why hire you? There's no shipment cost for software, the primary weakness of exporting work to abusive sweatshop countries like indonesia.
India has more people than Africa, they're better-educated, and they'll program for not all that much rice.
Yet India isn't posing any particular threat to IT livelihoods in the developed world. By doing things more cheaply, they enable the development of things that wouldn't otherwise have been done (because they wouldn't have been viable). But the amount of actual innovation coming out of India is insignificant, and that's where the real money is.
i wouldnt suggest anyone that i know of going to africa to work. i was just in south africa...
What a preposterous statement.
South Africa is nothing like the rest of the continent. It's a very special situation created from unique historical circumstances.
There are other dangerous places in Africa (Angola, Nigeria, Algeria, Rwanda, Burundi, Congo-Kinshasa, Sierra Leone, Liberia) but none of match the pervasive level of everyday violence and brutality that have come to characterize South Africa (in particular Johannesburg).
You can go to a country like Ghana and never see anything but smiling friendly people.
If you go back and look they obviously want to get it from two different perspectives. The New York Times is the bleeding-heart liberal bullshit newspaper which'll make Bush somehow become the bad guy in all of this while the Washington Times will most likely concentrate on Chinese hackers disrupting American capitalism on the net. Quit being such a liberal freak.
If they wanted another perspective from a straight-up paper, they'd use The Wall Street Journal which is well to the right of the NYT. Or if they were after wacky, why not use the Enquirer or the Weekly World News, which are both much more entertainingly bizarre than the Washington Times.
The Washington Times is simply not respected as a serious newspaper and therefore struck me as an odd choice for this contest. Nothing freakish about that.
If you're serious, then that's a level of neglect for your customers' safety-- allowing the product you sold them to be contaminated by a vicious worm which will cause your router to engage in an illegal act (a denial of service attack) without your consent-- that sounds to me like it could be legally actionable.
Um, read much? All that happens is the Cisco router locks up and needs to be restarted. It is not a platform for further attacks.
Why on earth are you using the Washington Times? It's an off-the-scale right-wing also-ran newspaper run by the Moonies that to the best of my knowledge is read by exactly nobody. The machines never empty out, the tiny pile at the corner newsstand is always still there at the end of the day (occasionally desperate people buy it after all the Posts are gone).
Wouldn't Sealand have their own 6 or 12 miles zone, allowing them free access to the ocean, to be supplied from Netherlands if the need arose?
Let's see, which relationship is more important to the Netherlands... that with Sealand, or, um, Britain? Sheesh.
Moot in any case since under no possible hyperbolic misapplication of geometry is the Netherlands in any physical position to grant sea access to Sealand.
Being subject to laws and having the law enforced are different things. Many foreigners are subject to US law, but it is difficult for the US government to enforce it against them.
For some reason, it ends up being pretty easy. It seems that large numbers are unable to resist:
Coming to the US for vacation
Coming to the US on business
Dealing in US-based securities, or financial instruments that pass through US brokerages
Ordering goods directly from US-based suppliers
I'm not being sarcastic, it does actually surprise me how often people fail to avoid these simple behaviors. Among a fairly large class of sleazy ausländers there are major style points to be had from a high-rolling trip to New York City.
It just doesn't seem wise to me to put things that might become targets out in international waters if you don't have a good military backing you up.
What are you talking about? Between King Roy's (known in France as Roi-Roy) one good eye, and Crown Prince Michael's popgun collection (they can't use the helicopter for wargames because that would forfeit their rental deposit) they could easily fend off an entire school of angry scrod.
Take a look at this map of undersea cables. There looks to be plenty of telecom cables near Sealand. In fact, I'd be surprised if Sealand itself wasn't used as a waypoint for the cables laid prior to Sealand's habitation.
Take a look at this map of Sealand. I'd be surprised if any of those cables came within 50 miles of Sealand. The cables on your map head off from Dover Peninsula to the south and near Yarmouth to the north. Sealand, meanwhile, is tucked in there within spitting distance of delightful downtown Harwich.
What was racist about it? Nobody is allowed to mock the often-mockworthy Chinese government because the people who run it happen to be of an identifiable ethnicity?
pulling the plug on even a semi-recognized independent nation is dangerous
A. No it's not. Countries have dropped off the net over the years for all sorts of reasons, ranging from non-payment to pissing off the wrong functionary at a university in some other country who had the key to the right satellite downlink cabinet.
B. "Semi-recognized" means - I would hope - something more than formal diplomatic accreditation by the protocol offices of Wired and Slashdot.org. Taiwan is semi-recognized. Notice any difference?
I doubt UK or anyone else for that matter wants to get into a plug pulling war even if it is just with miniscule Sealand.
Nobody cares, because Sealand can't pull anyone else's plugs (without committing actual crimes in actual countries).
Nah...do a little research and you'll discover that in the 60's and 70's this was all worked out in the British courts. IIRC, some British citizen in a boat got too close to Sealand and the King of Sealand started shooting at him. The boater reported it to the police, who arrested (illegally) the King of Sealand for violating British laws. When he stood trial, his defence was that he was the king of a sovereign nation defending his territory and was no subject to British law. The courts pretty much agreed with im and set him free.
Except, as I pointed out the last time we had a Sealand article on Slashdot, some random court in Britain does not have the jurisdiction to recognize nations. If I convince a traffic judge in Oklahoma not to fine me $50 for speeding because I have diplomatic immunity as the Grand Poobah of Burpistan, does that mean George W Bush has to run out and appoint an ambassador to Burpistan City? From smoking what kind of drugs would you get such a ridiculous idea?
First the Germans tried going through Britain, but Britain washed it's hands of the matter because Sealand was a sovereign nation.
The Foreign office stopped returning calls on the matter because they didn't feel it worth their while to play referee to a childish spat between playmates.
My stereo is connected to the internet, and the other night I was trying to play a CD and it was skipping really badly. Must have been Code Red.
Look, things work in certain ways - this isn't voodoo we're talking about here. Unless you can postulate a vector by which Code Red would cause cell phone outages, I'll reserve my right to make fun of such assertions.
What on earth does raw socket support have to do with anything discussed here? Do you even know what it means?
I don't know where you saw it, but where I did (Union Station, DC) the very last one (Chris Tucker's quip) had the theater laughing harder than I've ever heard a movie theater crowd laugh in my life.
Absolutely. Never forget that all observed phenomena have direct causal relationships. The one you find the most offensive is always to blame.
Another weird thing the worm did was mess with the weather in Bethesda, MD today. It was hot and sunny around 4:30pm, yet there was a torrential downpour. The sun never went away. Damn worm.
Either you didn't read the message at all, or you are an extremely dumb person.
What he's suggesting is to set up Apache so that it will automatically repair any IIS servers that attack it.
Has nothing to do with whether Apache is vulnerable to anything.
It depends on your machine's neighbors. If it's in a subnet with a lot of vulnerabe Microsoft machines, it's going to get hammered. If it's in a well-run subnet, it will only see the odd random probes.
Machines I have in colo centers with small numbers of IPs (backup name servers, etc.) are really getting the treatment. Likewise the servers in a UUnet /26 (so presumably someone else in the Class C is an MS shop - never imagined I'd care). The rest of the stuff, in scattered /24s, is not seeing much of it at all (usually 5 or 6 log entries at this point).
The company is being auctioned off by the creditors. One would assume this means there would be no debt after it's sold; the creditors are writing everything off and just splitting whatever the auction brings in.
Not very much, I wouldn't think. The most expensive meal I ever ate in Malaysia was at Pizza Hut in Penang (it was after a long ferry ride across the straits of Malacca and my stomach was too queasy for anything but ultra-bland food). A large pizza and a pitcher of soda, which two of us split, came to a total of $7.
Other than that, I've never had a meal in Malaysia (despite eating an awful lot of meals there) come in at over $2. The country is a paradise of cheap and fabulous food. Which begs a very different question: Aside from seasick foreigners, who there would want to eat pizza of all things?
What on earth makes you think you're in danger of getting killed because you're white and/or American?
Outside of Algeria, with its rebels' "death to foreigners" pledge, you'll be welcomed as an honored guest almost anywhere you go. Even in Algeria they seem to have more or less given that crap up.
People recognize that you're not part of their local struggles, and in my experience throughout Africa most people want nothing more than a chance to explain their views on what's going on, throw in an exclaimed "America very good country!" or two, and hear some stories about what life is like elsewhere. You'll see more people wearing stars-and-stripes gear (T-shirts, baseball caps, stickers on bikes and cars, etc.) than in the USA on the 4th of July. I've hitchhiked across the continent and never experienced anything but overwhelming hospitality (and the occasional upset stomach; that's your real worry in Africa).
I don't think the point's all that valid.
What most troubled sub-saharan African countries really need is a functioning economy. People who are working together to get rich are far less likely to hack each other to bits just because someone on the radio tells them to.
An efficient economy depends very much on access to information (market prices, technical information, etc.) and on communication (widening the pool of buyers and sellers).
Without this, they get to develop it the hard, tried-and-true way: Over 1000 or more years. Why not give them a leg up?
India has more people than Africa, they're better-educated, and they'll program for not all that much rice.
Yet India isn't posing any particular threat to IT livelihoods in the developed world. By doing things more cheaply, they enable the development of things that wouldn't otherwise have been done (because they wouldn't have been viable). But the amount of actual innovation coming out of India is insignificant, and that's where the real money is.
What a preposterous statement.
South Africa is nothing like the rest of the continent. It's a very special situation created from unique historical circumstances.
There are other dangerous places in Africa (Angola, Nigeria, Algeria, Rwanda, Burundi, Congo-Kinshasa, Sierra Leone, Liberia) but none of match the pervasive level of everyday violence and brutality that have come to characterize South Africa (in particular Johannesburg).
You can go to a country like Ghana and never see anything but smiling friendly people.
Apache doesn't record the specific HTTP request in the error log, so the grep wouldn't match there.
If they wanted another perspective from a straight-up paper, they'd use The Wall Street Journal which is well to the right of the NYT. Or if they were after wacky, why not use the Enquirer or the Weekly World News, which are both much more entertainingly bizarre than the Washington Times.
The Washington Times is simply not respected as a serious newspaper and therefore struck me as an odd choice for this contest. Nothing freakish about that.
Um, read much? All that happens is the Cisco router locks up and needs to be restarted. It is not a platform for further attacks.
Why on earth are you using the Washington Times? It's an off-the-scale right-wing also-ran newspaper run by the Moonies that to the best of my knowledge is read by exactly nobody. The machines never empty out, the tiny pile at the corner newsstand is always still there at the end of the day (occasionally desperate people buy it after all the Posts are gone).
The paper in DC is the Washington Post.
I'm sure we're all looking forward to the day China conducts naval exercises in the North Sea (echoes of Chung Kuo).
Are you sure about this? I'm quite certain I read that it was microwave point-to-point to Britain.
I cannot imagine anyone on God's green earth paying money for the molasses latency of a satellite-connected colo facility.
Let's see, which relationship is more important to the Netherlands... that with Sealand, or, um, Britain? Sheesh.
Moot in any case since under no possible hyperbolic misapplication of geometry is the Netherlands in any physical position to grant sea access to Sealand.
For some reason, it ends up being pretty easy. It seems that large numbers are unable to resist:
I'm not being sarcastic, it does actually surprise me how often people fail to avoid these simple behaviors. Among a fairly large class of sleazy ausländers there are major style points to be had from a high-rolling trip to New York City.
What are you talking about? Between King Roy's (known in France as Roi-Roy) one good eye, and Crown Prince Michael's popgun collection (they can't use the helicopter for wargames because that would forfeit their rental deposit) they could easily fend off an entire school of angry scrod.
Take a look at this map of Sealand. I'd be surprised if any of those cables came within 50 miles of Sealand. The cables on your map head off from Dover Peninsula to the south and near Yarmouth to the north. Sealand, meanwhile, is tucked in there within spitting distance of delightful downtown Harwich.
What was racist about it? Nobody is allowed to mock the often-mockworthy Chinese government because the people who run it happen to be of an identifiable ethnicity?
A. No it's not. Countries have dropped off the net over the years for all sorts of reasons, ranging from non-payment to pissing off the wrong functionary at a university in some other country who had the key to the right satellite downlink cabinet.
B. "Semi-recognized" means - I would hope - something more than formal diplomatic accreditation by the protocol offices of Wired and Slashdot.org. Taiwan is semi-recognized. Notice any difference?
Nobody cares, because Sealand can't pull anyone else's plugs (without committing actual crimes in actual countries).
Except, as I pointed out the last time we had a Sealand article on Slashdot, some random court in Britain does not have the jurisdiction to recognize nations. If I convince a traffic judge in Oklahoma not to fine me $50 for speeding because I have diplomatic immunity as the Grand Poobah of Burpistan, does that mean George W Bush has to run out and appoint an ambassador to Burpistan City? From smoking what kind of drugs would you get such a ridiculous idea?
The Foreign office stopped returning calls on the matter because they didn't feel it worth their while to play referee to a childish spat between playmates.