To split the hairs even more -- Noyce figured out how to connect the components by with metal traces on silicon. Kilby figured out how to combine resistors, capacitors and transistors on a single monolithic, and made some reference in his patent to printing the interconnections, although he didn't actually do it in his prototype.
Just like the folks that used to yell at us in the park for putting model rocket engines on frogs or building rubber-band guns, jumps for bikes and skateboards, or ice skating on (gasp!) real hard ice! Life Is Dangerous!
We have some neighbors -pretty good ones.
They wanted to get a pool. Since we have kids about the same age as our
kids, they wanted us to go in with us and put
the pool between our yards. Ha! No chance! This specifically breaks my
No Communal Living rule.
I could already imagine the gripe festivals we would all be having about each other.
To bring this OnTopic: You just can't share
this much stuff with your neighbors. Its a
bad, bad idea.
Standards are all fine and good -- but the design by comittee nature hinders time to market. Anyone have examples of standards that were finished before a competing non-standard was on the market?
California's power problems are because of the governement regulation -- costs were artficially low (read - subsidized) for a long time, so when deregulation came into being, the state capped the cost of power, forcing the producers to lose money on every kW.
You can build a pretty decent 92 ohm transmission line with barbed wire -- Its the inductance and capacitance of the ( the geometry for non-fields thinkers ) that sets the characteristic impedance.
Read
here a good article from Howard Johnson @ EDM magazine.
started with "So you want to build a death ray"
Prof. Campbell at Michigan Tech
a talk about building a flesh burning device
out of a microwave oven, a prabolic antenna,
and maxwell's equations. It was a fun filled
hour of mayhem!
Part of having kids is sacrificing your
wants for the good of your family.
Taking 5 years off to raise kids will _END_ a professional career?
Interesting how you try to make it sound
like the chauvinist argument here, when its
not -- no one will care for a child as well
as his/her parents, mom, dad, whatever.
Maybe it sounds preachy, but if you can't
afford to have you or your spouse stay home
with the kids for the majority of their waking
hours, maybe you should just keep the old
pants on. goes especially true for "its
not my spouse"
It seems to me like ideas can only successsfully protected when they are only "pretty good". What I mean by this is that if it is an earth moving, life changing thing, the idea will be stolen by
everyone, because it will need to be stolen.
Printed circuit boards are a good example --
Xerox (I think) invented a way to make cheap circuits instead of the old ball of wires,
got a pattent, and everyone stole the idea anyway.
It couldn't really be enforced because every
electronics manufacturer in the world stole
the idea as soon as they could. Xerox would
have been in court for the rest of time.
What I'm getting at here isn't whether you
can patent international comerce via the
internet, more that you can't stop anyone
from doing it even if you had invented it.
At Michigan Tech in the early 90's we had copies of all sorts of engineering software that the school got really cheap, just to get the students hooked on it.
How many engineering grads have gotten out to the real world, to find out that Matlab, Pspice, and Cadence design software are common, but not always at their new place of employment? How many more have gotten the employers to buy the software for them? Count me in both groups.
I have a BSEE and so does my dad. His was ~1967, mine ~1993. He holds a PE, designs things like hydoelectric power plants and big transformers. I do not have my PE, and design high speed electronics. I think we both have similar resposnsiblilities, except nobody dies when my stuff breaks.
Even so, I'm elligible to take the exam next spring in Minnesota, so I will. I don't think it will do me any good during the next 10 years, but I don't want to re-learn any calculus when I'm 50 either.
To split the hairs even more -- Noyce figured out how to connect the components by with metal traces on silicon. Kilby figured out how to combine resistors, capacitors and transistors on a single monolithic, and made some reference in his patent to printing the interconnections, although he didn't actually do it in his prototype.
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Jack's Biography http://www.ti.com/corp/docs/kilbyctr/jackstclair.
Just like the folks that used to yell at us in the park for putting model rocket engines on frogs or building rubber-band guns, jumps for bikes and skateboards, or ice skating on (gasp!) real hard ice! Life Is Dangerous!
We have some neighbors -pretty good ones.
They wanted to get a pool. Since we have kids about the same age as our
kids, they wanted us to go in with us and put
the pool between our yards. Ha! No chance! This specifically breaks my
No Communal Living rule.
I could already imagine the gripe festivals we would all be having about each other.
To bring this OnTopic: You just can't share
this much stuff with your neighbors. Its a
bad, bad idea.
sorry, bad link
The folks that have been at it the longest are at Ontrack. I know some of the guys that work there. Pretty smart guys with lots of tricks.
Standards are all fine and good -- but the design by comittee nature hinders time to market. Anyone have examples of standards that were finished before a competing non-standard was on the market?
California's power problems are because of the governement regulation -- costs were artficially low (read - subsidized) for a long time, so when deregulation came into being, the state capped the cost of power, forcing the producers to lose money on every kW.
Beware the media leftist bias!
You can build a pretty decent 92 ohm transmission line with barbed wire -- Its the inductance and capacitance of the ( the geometry for non-fields thinkers ) that sets the characteristic impedance. Read here a good article from Howard Johnson @ EDM magazine.
To develop scud missle controllers!
started with "So you want to build a death ray" Prof. Campbell at Michigan Tech a talk about building a flesh burning device out of a microwave oven, a prabolic antenna, and maxwell's equations. It was a fun filled hour of mayhem!
Ahh - but you can't always get what you want.
Part of having kids is sacrificing your
wants for the good of your family.
Taking 5 years off to raise kids will _END_ a professional career?
Interesting how you try to make it sound
like the chauvinist argument here, when its
not -- no one will care for a child as well
as his/her parents, mom, dad, whatever.
Some people simply can't afford to have kids.
Some people simply can't afford to have sex.
Maybe it sounds preachy, but if you can't
afford to have you or your spouse stay home
with the kids for the majority of their waking
hours, maybe you should just keep the old
pants on. goes especially true for "its
not my spouse"
>They also objected to the idea that one could >become wealthy without owning land.
Still true though isn't it? Wealth implies ownership of something, and land is usually a big part of what a 'Wealty' person owns.
It seems to me like ideas can only successsfully protected when they are only "pretty good". What I mean by this is that if it is an earth moving, life changing thing, the idea will be stolen by
everyone, because it will need to be stolen.
Printed circuit boards are a good example --
Xerox (I think) invented a way to make cheap circuits instead of the old ball of wires,
got a pattent, and everyone stole the idea anyway.
It couldn't really be enforced because every
electronics manufacturer in the world stole
the idea as soon as they could. Xerox would
have been in court for the rest of time.
What I'm getting at here isn't whether you
can patent international comerce via the
internet, more that you can't stop anyone
from doing it even if you had invented it.
js
Some info from this month's IEEEspectrum
MS has had deals before that seem to
contradict their "us or nobody" approach.
see citrix
js
At Michigan Tech in the early 90's we had
copies of all sorts of engineering software
that the school got really cheap, just to
get the students hooked on it.
How many engineering grads have gotten
out to the real world, to find out that
Matlab, Pspice, and Cadence design software
are common, but not always at their new
place of employment? How many more have
gotten the employers to buy the software
for them? Count me in both groups.
An article at FastCompany on this very subject
Here's an example of when having matters.
I have a BSEE and so does my dad. His was
~1967, mine ~1993. He holds a PE, designs
things like hydoelectric power plants and
big transformers. I do not have my PE, and
design high speed electronics. I think we
both have similar resposnsiblilities, except
nobody dies when my stuff breaks.
Even so, I'm elligible to take the exam next
spring in Minnesota, so I will. I don't
think it will do me any good during the
next 10 years, but I don't want to re-learn
any calculus when I'm 50 either.
js