Now imagine that you're the target of a large movement filled with very angry people and you receive a number of credible threats...
You will then understand what its like to be ProGG. Milo got used syringes and dead animals sent to his house from people that didn't agree with him on his articles or his stance on GG.
ProGG: Revolves around ethics in journalism, but also fighting against people that are basically neo-puritans that think that if a woman isn't wearing a burqa in a game, then she is revealing too much skin... but also say that slut shaming and body shaming is bad. The fight for the ProGG side is many different things. I'm about 50/50 split between Ethics and keeping SJWs out of gaming culture. They already destroyed enough cultures. The way I see it is that the current ethics problem is due to the SJW indie clique that controls most of the gaming media sites. So really, fighting for ethics happens to be the same thing as fighting the SJWs out of gaming culture
There are people that are purely in the fight for ethics, and other people that are in it because they hate SJWs. So it really comes down to a combination of things
AntiGG: Says that ProGG are misogynists. Regularly violate journalistic ethics to give their friends in their indie clique a leg up. Basically part of the problem. They say they fight for a more inclusive culture in gaming, but the only way things can be inclusive for them is if every hero in a game was a Female Non-Binary Queer PoC.
The neutrals are here because both sides are having two completely different conversations. My friend said GG was a bunch of bullshit harassers until I showed him what was really going on. Now he stays a bit in the neutral side, because he does what most of us should be doing - Just playing fucking games. The problem is that most AntiGG folks seem to NOT be gamers, and are more interested in changing things to fit their whims.
So basically the crappy games I made under a fake game studio name means I can claim I know about the industry because I made flash games with my cracked copy of Macromedia Flash and AS1?
I only ask because the graphics for her game would be dated for something released 15 years ago, and the voice acting is some of the worst, dead pan (not good dead pan) voice acting I've ever heard.
Yeah, by the same trash sites that gave Gone Home 9/10 or 10/10. Game reviews are a joke. If you push the right ideology, either inside or outside the game, you will get rave reviews by the same trash sites.
A new employee recently plugged in their ecig into the computer to charge it. Machine immediately locked down, network port shut off, and it took 4 hours to restore access to the machine. This was on an Unclassified machine too.
Yeah, but PSR takes screenshots at every screen interaction, along with keystrokes and mouse clicks. It works good enough when people are too stupid to tell me exactly what they are doing.
I use it because I work really messed up hours, and I barely have any other activities that I do outside of work. I'm not a social shut in, I like to go to electronic music events and festivals, and I meet tons of cool people there, just nobody I would ever find to be dating material.
Hmmm, maybe that is why most women don't hang around when they find out I still like to go out to shows.
The reason why there are so little women in STEM fields is because they all take Gender Studies courses so they can learn to complain that there are no women in the STEM fields, rather than going into the STEM fields themselves.
I think that a lot of the problem in the work place is not institutionalized sexism, but the problem of high profile incidents that make people be worried about hiring female staff. Take the whole incident where the one woman put two guys on blast for making a stupid joke about the word "Dongle" at a tech conference. When you see high profile cases like that come up, naturally people in an already male dominated field are going to be more defensive and not as open to having females with them in the field for fear of being put on blast in public. Combine that with the worry and fear of sexual harassment lawsuits that can be filed pretty much on a whim and can be a death sentence for someone's career, it creates a barrier for women. I work in a place right now where I've been told to be EXTREMELY careful about the wording I use around the female employees. Our workplace will sooner fire me than hear my side of the story so that they don't get a law suit. And its happened here before. Twice. I thank god I work after hours support and I don't have to deal with the regular staff.
Im talking about using their speakers. I had a set of 901 and 301 speakers. As for headphones, the noise isolation from Ultimate Ears is amazing, and the sound reproduction they have is 11/10. The cheap pair I had (Well, $250 cheap) was the best I've ever heard music sound. Unfortunately, left them in my exgirlfriends car after we split up, and then she moved back east. I have not seen them since.
They never said they were verified. They said they were "Authentic and Genuine". While some would obviously fall through the cracks, this court ruling said that they are using enough proper protections to ensure that paid or fake reviews don't get through.
I used to think Bose were good, I bought into the hype, but I always felt as if there was a lot of the song missing. When I switched to some cheap Alesis Monitor-One (Passive, using a Phase Linear 4000 Amp), the sound quality jumped dramatically.
So let's take a walk over to the GamerGate clubhouse and see if the topics are about "cis-gendered white males" or Brianna Wu, Zoe Quinn, and other women and minorities.
Nobody talks about Zoe Quinn anymore. She keeps trying to shove herself into the spotlight for VitimBux, but nobody is biting anymore. Wu has only had two topics made about her in KIA in recent memory - One about her getting her mod status revoked at Ghazi, and one to this topic. The other two topics about minorities or women on KiA right now is one that involves (SURPRISE!) an disclosure failure on Playboys site (yay ethics!), and a post that we should be giving support to two female devs, not because they have vaginas, but because they are known for their amazing work on the series they previously worked on. They are looking to make a new game away from their old dev studios.
Let's not play. The reason you're in this conversation is because "Brianna Wu" was in the title of the article.
Im here because/. isn't blocked at work and Im bored. It's not like I don't post in the site in other places.
Honestly, I was hoping that the post was so chan-ish that you didn't think I was being serious. I guess that my post was too strong with the Poe (until the last part, which you completely ignored).
You totes got me. But you missed one huge thing - Lulz come from everyone. To keep myself restricted to lulz from women, gays, and other minorities would not be as satisfactory. The real lulz come from Cis-Gendered White Males who are self proclaimed feminists and nice guys trying to get that SJW pussy. Everyone else is just easy targets, so very little lulz to be had.
On a serious note, I've done work for the GSA for a long time when I was in HS and in college. I've done support counseling for LGBT youth. I know the pain that they go through, and what little voice they sometimes have. When that voice is coopted by some straight white dude trying to impress his friends, its a complete disgrace.
According to the poles done on KiA, majority of the people identify as Liberals or Moderates, with only a small amount of them being conservative. The slandering on "leftists" is mostly Extreme (or Authoritarian) Leftists. Also, Sommers is NOT affiliated with right-wing organizations. This misconception comes from the fact that she posted something online, to which an MRA site asked if they could repost it. She agreed, and everyone went nuts saying she wrote it for that site, when that was not the case.
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Now imagine that you're the target of a large movement filled with very angry people and you receive a number of credible threats...
You will then understand what its like to be ProGG. Milo got used syringes and dead animals sent to his house from people that didn't agree with him on his articles or his stance on GG.
Here is why Neutrals in this debate exist:
ProGG: Revolves around ethics in journalism, but also fighting against people that are basically neo-puritans that think that if a woman isn't wearing a burqa in a game, then she is revealing too much skin... but also say that slut shaming and body shaming is bad. The fight for the ProGG side is many different things. I'm about 50/50 split between Ethics and keeping SJWs out of gaming culture. They already destroyed enough cultures. The way I see it is that the current ethics problem is due to the SJW indie clique that controls most of the gaming media sites. So really, fighting for ethics happens to be the same thing as fighting the SJWs out of gaming culture
There are people that are purely in the fight for ethics, and other people that are in it because they hate SJWs. So it really comes down to a combination of things
AntiGG: Says that ProGG are misogynists. Regularly violate journalistic ethics to give their friends in their indie clique a leg up. Basically part of the problem. They say they fight for a more inclusive culture in gaming, but the only way things can be inclusive for them is if every hero in a game was a Female Non-Binary Queer PoC.
The neutrals are here because both sides are having two completely different conversations. My friend said GG was a bunch of bullshit harassers until I showed him what was really going on. Now he stays a bit in the neutral side, because he does what most of us should be doing - Just playing fucking games. The problem is that most AntiGG folks seem to NOT be gamers, and are more interested in changing things to fit their whims.
The explanation to the problem is right there in your post.
you seem pretty angry at me
Do us a favor next time and just put "u mad bro?" so I know to glance over your comments and know when you don't have a valid point to make.
So basically the crappy games I made under a fake game studio name means I can claim I know about the industry because I made flash games with my cracked copy of Macromedia Flash and AS1?
I only ask because the graphics for her game would be dated for something released 15 years ago, and the voice acting is some of the worst, dead pan (not good dead pan) voice acting I've ever heard.
She won some game of the year awards.
Yeah, by the same trash sites that gave Gone Home 9/10 or 10/10. Game reviews are a joke. If you push the right ideology, either inside or outside the game, you will get rave reviews by the same trash sites.
A new employee recently plugged in their ecig into the computer to charge it. Machine immediately locked down, network port shut off, and it took 4 hours to restore access to the machine. This was on an Unclassified machine too.
That was the case at my previous job. The lady I worked with was way more crude than I was, and that is an accomplishment.
The point I failed to make is you never know who is going to be offended, and if a guy gets offended, they are most likely told to man the fuck up.
Yeah, but PSR takes screenshots at every screen interaction, along with keystrokes and mouse clicks. It works good enough when people are too stupid to tell me exactly what they are doing.
If you cant get anal on the first date, what is the point of sticking around?
I've been meaning to watch that movie because I heard how bad it was. Like a trainwreck happening over the course of 45 minutes.
I use it because I work really messed up hours, and I barely have any other activities that I do outside of work. I'm not a social shut in, I like to go to electronic music events and festivals, and I meet tons of cool people there, just nobody I would ever find to be dating material.
Hmmm, maybe that is why most women don't hang around when they find out I still like to go out to shows.
Fuck, someone beat me to it.
The reason why there are so little women in STEM fields is because they all take Gender Studies courses so they can learn to complain that there are no women in the STEM fields, rather than going into the STEM fields themselves.
I think that a lot of the problem in the work place is not institutionalized sexism, but the problem of high profile incidents that make people be worried about hiring female staff. Take the whole incident where the one woman put two guys on blast for making a stupid joke about the word "Dongle" at a tech conference. When you see high profile cases like that come up, naturally people in an already male dominated field are going to be more defensive and not as open to having females with them in the field for fear of being put on blast in public. Combine that with the worry and fear of sexual harassment lawsuits that can be filed pretty much on a whim and can be a death sentence for someone's career, it creates a barrier for women. I work in a place right now where I've been told to be EXTREMELY careful about the wording I use around the female employees. Our workplace will sooner fire me than hear my side of the story so that they don't get a law suit. And its happened here before. Twice. I thank god I work after hours support and I don't have to deal with the regular staff.
If you build your own distribution channel, they will sue you into oblivion and not cease to sue you until your completely bankrupt.
Yeah, I mean, places like Beatport or BandCamp don't exist.
Im talking about using their speakers. I had a set of 901 and 301 speakers. As for headphones, the noise isolation from Ultimate Ears is amazing, and the sound reproduction they have is 11/10. The cheap pair I had (Well, $250 cheap) was the best I've ever heard music sound. Unfortunately, left them in my exgirlfriends car after we split up, and then she moved back east. I have not seen them since.
They never said they were verified. They said they were "Authentic and Genuine". While some would obviously fall through the cracks, this court ruling said that they are using enough proper protections to ensure that paid or fake reviews don't get through.
I think we have different definitions of classic music....
I wouldn't say its junk, its just a relic of a bygone era.
I used to think Bose were good, I bought into the hype, but I always felt as if there was a lot of the song missing. When I switched to some cheap Alesis Monitor-One (Passive, using a Phase Linear 4000 Amp), the sound quality jumped dramatically.
So let's take a walk over to the GamerGate clubhouse and see if the topics are about "cis-gendered white males" or Brianna Wu, Zoe Quinn, and other women and minorities.
Nobody talks about Zoe Quinn anymore. She keeps trying to shove herself into the spotlight for VitimBux, but nobody is biting anymore. Wu has only had two topics made about her in KIA in recent memory - One about her getting her mod status revoked at Ghazi, and one to this topic. The other two topics about minorities or women on KiA right now is one that involves (SURPRISE!) an disclosure failure on Playboys site (yay ethics!), and a post that we should be giving support to two female devs, not because they have vaginas, but because they are known for their amazing work on the series they previously worked on. They are looking to make a new game away from their old dev studios.
Let's not play. The reason you're in this conversation is because "Brianna Wu" was in the title of the article.
Im here because /. isn't blocked at work and Im bored. It's not like I don't post in the site in other places.
Honestly, I was hoping that the post was so chan-ish that you didn't think I was being serious. I guess that my post was too strong with the Poe (until the last part, which you completely ignored).
You totes got me. But you missed one huge thing - Lulz come from everyone. To keep myself restricted to lulz from women, gays, and other minorities would not be as satisfactory. The real lulz come from Cis-Gendered White Males who are self proclaimed feminists and nice guys trying to get that SJW pussy. Everyone else is just easy targets, so very little lulz to be had.
On a serious note, I've done work for the GSA for a long time when I was in HS and in college. I've done support counseling for LGBT youth. I know the pain that they go through, and what little voice they sometimes have. When that voice is coopted by some straight white dude trying to impress his friends, its a complete disgrace.
According to the poles done on KiA, majority of the people identify as Liberals or Moderates, with only a small amount of them being conservative. The slandering on "leftists" is mostly Extreme (or Authoritarian) Leftists. Also, Sommers is NOT affiliated with right-wing organizations. This misconception comes from the fact that she posted something online, to which an MRA site asked if they could repost it. She agreed, and everyone went nuts saying she wrote it for that site, when that was not the case.
By definition, someone who does not believe in equality is not a feminist.
By that definition, that would mean most 3rd wave feminists aren't feminists at all.