That's my problem with it. Clueless people will read this as something it's not: News.
People who spend time reading Forbes are not clueless. They are smart enough to discern that it was an opinion piece based on the author's tone -- I mean, unless you're telling me that the majority of people who read Forbes, a magazine targeted at business leaders, are clueless.
Maybe I am a bit naive, but the print media (newspaper, news magazines) and associated websites do have a (moral, not legal) obligation to write fair(er) and (more) balanced coverage on issues. Forbes' article was far from that mark.
When's the last time you read any newspaper or magazine without an editorial piece? Do you bitch about the New York Times because they run editorials? How about your local paper? Should newspapers never run editorials?
I know you don't feel that way.
You're just bitching because Forbes ran an editorial piece that put Open Source in a bad light. I'm sure you'd cheer, though, if they ran an article that was Open Source friendly.
Instead of bitching, why don't you write your own editorial, and get it published? Then your fellow Slashdotters could cheer, the "Micro$oft"ies could boo, and the world will be as it was before you started crying.
You are absolutely correct; in fact, I think that without putting a system in place to check facts, you know from the outset that you are potentially spreading false information, which is just plain irresponsible.
My PC: $500 Adobe Premiere: $648.91 (CompUSA) DVD Drive: $249.99 (Sony, also CompUSA) My total cost: $1398.90
Your Mac: $1999
So, I save $600.10. Now, assuming I make $20/hr, that's 30 hours of time I would have to spend setting up the PC. Assuming your 12 hours of time setting up the PC (which, by the way, is a ridiculous over-estimate), I have saved $360.10 over purchasing a Mac.
Adobe Premiere is industry standard software -- the PC project will look just as good as the Mac project.
Yeah- Photoshop, and War Craft 3, and UT2003, and Age of Mythology, and bla bla bla.
Yeah- I can go down the block and buy software for my mac too. Its called CompUSA.
Go ahead and tell me the Mac software library is comparable to the PC software library. Go ahead, do it -- lie to me in front of everyone. I dare you.
Yeah- I'd go to the store if my computer came with useless crap like "Microsoft Movie Maker". If you consider apple's iApps "generic stuff" check them out again- they're far from useless...but what about that cool windows program that automatically downloads my pictures from my digital camera when I plug it into my computer? Oh wait- it doesn't exist for windows.
It's not useless, but it's generic, and it COMES WITH EVERY OS. READ MY POSTS before you answer them.
And actually, Windows does download from your digital camera when you plug it in, nice try though.
Same thing happens on Windows too- even after you go through the "hardware wizard"- NOTHING HAPPENS! When apple sells something on its site- it works. Simple as that- no stupid drivers required.
I refer you to another post in this thread, where said person plugged something into his Mac and it didn't work. DIDN'T work. Try again.
Or you can buy the 2" thick 10lbs Dell with the 2 huge fans on the back.
Or, you could buy a.96" thick, 3 pound Dell. It's called the 300m. Nice try, but once again, you're wrong.
So far your post really sucks. Only one more point worth addressing:
Alright- enough bitch fest 2000. So I'm a switcher and I'm never going back. EVER!
So, quit your bitching (i.e. don't respond to my post) and stick with your overpriced Mac!:-)
Because Windows is garbage and you can't run Word, Photoshop, Dreamweaver, etc on your Linux box (which is GREAT as a server but stinks as a desktop?)
OK, now, why is Windows garbage? Don't throw a statement out if you can't defend it.
Why buy a Lexus when the Kia will get you to and from work, except when it's in the shop for repairs and recalls?
And don't make statements that are false, either. Lexus has had a comparable number of recalls compared to Kia (18 recalls for Lexus versus 24 for Kia.) There isn't much difference between the two companies as far as recalls are concerned. (myCarStats.com will give you that info.)
Features like software (iTunes, iSync, iCal, iChat, Safari, iPhoto, iMovie, iDVD, Quicktime etc...etc...etc...)
That's stuff that came with your OS -- all OS's offer that generic stuff. You know as well as I do that I'm talking about being able to go to the store and buy software. Like games, for example...
Hardware/software integration that provides a true plug and play experience so you don't have to deal with the damned "Hardware Wizard" from Microsoft whenever you plug in a firewire hard drive or something like that. With OS X, you never get "I see you are trying to add a new hardware device". Rather, you plug the device in and it simply works.
Or, it doesn't work, and nothing happens. Yup, no hardware wizard, just plain nothing. That isn't user-friendly, by any stretch of the imagination.
Also, the hardware feature set among many Macs is far and away pretty impressive. The 12in Powerbook I have has built in Firewire, built in wireless antennas for 802.11g, built in USB, built in ethernet, built in slot loading Superdrive allowing me to burn DVD's, built in support for multiple monitors etc..etc...etc... all in a compact package less than 4lbs with good battery life.
With Apple, you also get thoughtful and well researched design that is completely lacking in the Wintel arena. For instance, the last Wintel laptop I had was a joke compared to this in that the manufacturer placed the fan outlet on the bottom!!!! of the case so that if you were using the laptop on your lap, you blocked the fan output of the laptop thus causing it to overheat. Smart, eh? Or look at the design of the dual G5's. This thing is quiet, fast and easy to work with when adding hardware, and one of the most innovative case designs I have ever seen.
First of all: what possessed you to buy a laptop with a fan on the bottom? That's not only dumb design, but also a dumb purchase.
Second of all, sure, Mac makes pretty hardware. But pretty hardware doesn't justify paying the kind of money they ask for. I have a Shuttle XPC -- it, like the G5, is quiet, fast, easy to work with, and looks cute.
Unlike the G5, though, it only costs about $500 to put one together. The cheapest G5 is $1999. So, I saved about $1499. So, not only can I go to the store and actually find software for my system, but I also have the money to buy it with.
Umm... time is money. So, if I have to work three times as many hours to pay for a Mac when a PC will do, why would I?
And if you know how to set up a PC, and you actually want to be able to buy software for your computer, why would you purchase a Mac? It makes no sense.
a) I dug up some information on you. It's not hard to do. b) Does it matter? No -- I asked because I felt like it. c) Yes, so what business do you have in the US? "something's not right..." is hardly business.
See those four letters at the bottom of every page on slashdot? They say OSDN, Open Source Development Network, a project set up to encorage open source development and a subsidury of VA Linux Systems. Why wouldn't you expect it to support Linux with the zeal that is fitting of something with its interests tied so closely with Linux?
What he said has nothing to do with supporting Linux -- he is complaining about the mindless sheepery that is the Slashdot Anti-"M$" Bash-Fest.
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That's my problem with it. Clueless people will read this as something it's not: News.
People who spend time reading Forbes are not clueless. They are smart enough to discern that it was an opinion piece based on the author's tone -- I mean, unless you're telling me that the majority of people who read Forbes, a magazine targeted at business leaders, are clueless.
Are you really, honestly trying to tell me that?
It was a joke, I know what Linux is, how it works, how it is distributed, about the GPL, how SCO and Micro$oft are evil, etc. etc.
Just laugh. OK?
Maybe I am a bit naive, but the print media (newspaper, news magazines) and associated websites do have a (moral, not legal) obligation to write fair(er) and (more) balanced coverage on issues. Forbes' article was far from that mark.
When's the last time you read any newspaper or magazine without an editorial piece? Do you bitch about the New York Times because they run editorials? How about your local paper? Should newspapers never run editorials?
I know you don't feel that way.
You're just bitching because Forbes ran an editorial piece that put Open Source in a bad light. I'm sure you'd cheer, though, if they ran an article that was Open Source friendly.
Instead of bitching, why don't you write your own editorial, and get it published? Then your fellow Slashdotters could cheer, the "Micro$oft"ies could boo, and the world will be as it was before you started crying.
Linux?? Unstable???
;-)
Oh fuck! The world is ending, Slashdotters!
The more verifiable unique sources, the higher the reliability.
I could easily find 100 "sources" that will "verify" that President Bush enjoys having sex with goats while eating waffles.
I think you see my point.
Wow. You mean like Slashdot bashes Microsoft all the time?
Don't dish it out if you can't take it, people.
You are absolutely correct; in fact, I think that without putting a system in place to check facts, you know from the outset that you are potentially spreading false information, which is just plain irresponsible.
Not if you picture the kind of girl that would actually be guarding a supercomputer with a gun... ... beastly.
I take it all back -- you made me laugh. :-)
ColecoVision!
Wow, it was so necessary to drop the F-bomb, wasn't it?
"People who curse for no reason" are about 12 years old.
In my experience, XP is almost trouble free. So, that's that.
JKL? As in, scrubbing with the keyboard? Reverse, pause, forward?
Really, I appreciate your concern, but I know what I'm talking about. Stick your foot in your mouth and walk away...
Say it to my face
My PC: $500
Adobe Premiere: $648.91 (CompUSA)
DVD Drive: $249.99 (Sony, also CompUSA)
My total cost: $1398.90
Your Mac: $1999
So, I save $600.10. Now, assuming I make $20/hr, that's 30 hours of time I would have to spend setting up the PC. Assuming your 12 hours of time setting up the PC (which, by the way, is a ridiculous over-estimate), I have saved $360.10 over purchasing a Mac.
Adobe Premiere is industry standard software -- the PC project will look just as good as the Mac project.
And, I'll have $360.10 to spend on blank DVD-R's.
Yeah- Photoshop, and War Craft 3, and UT2003, and Age of Mythology, and bla bla bla.
.96" thick, 3 pound Dell. It's called the 300m. Nice try, but once again, you're wrong.
:-)
Yeah- I can go down the block and buy software for my mac too. Its called CompUSA.
Go ahead and tell me the Mac software library is comparable to the PC software library. Go ahead, do it -- lie to me in front of everyone. I dare you.
Yeah- I'd go to the store if my computer came with useless crap like "Microsoft Movie Maker". If you consider apple's iApps "generic stuff" check them out again- they're far from useless...but what about that cool windows program that automatically downloads my pictures from my digital camera when I plug it into my computer? Oh wait- it doesn't exist for windows.
It's not useless, but it's generic, and it COMES WITH EVERY OS. READ MY POSTS before you answer them.
And actually, Windows does download from your digital camera when you plug it in, nice try though.
Same thing happens on Windows too- even after you go through the "hardware wizard"- NOTHING HAPPENS! When apple sells something on its site- it works. Simple as that- no stupid drivers required.
I refer you to another post in this thread, where said person plugged something into his Mac and it didn't work. DIDN'T work. Try again.
Or you can buy the 2" thick 10lbs Dell with the 2 huge fans on the back.
Or, you could buy a
So far your post really sucks. Only one more point worth addressing:
Alright- enough bitch fest 2000. So I'm a switcher and I'm never going back. EVER!
So, quit your bitching (i.e. don't respond to my post) and stick with your overpriced Mac!
Troll
Because Windows is garbage and you can't run Word, Photoshop, Dreamweaver, etc on your Linux box (which is GREAT as a server but stinks as a desktop?)
OK, now, why is Windows garbage? Don't throw a statement out if you can't defend it.
Why buy a Lexus when the Kia will get you to and from work, except when it's in the shop for repairs and recalls?
And don't make statements that are false, either. Lexus has had a comparable number of recalls compared to Kia (18 recalls for Lexus versus 24 for Kia.) There isn't much difference between the two companies as far as recalls are concerned. (myCarStats.com will give you that info.)
So... what does the Mac do that my PC can't, other than cost a lot of money?
Features like software (iTunes, iSync, iCal, iChat, Safari, iPhoto, iMovie, iDVD, Quicktime etc...etc...etc...)
That's stuff that came with your OS -- all OS's offer that generic stuff. You know as well as I do that I'm talking about being able to go to the store and buy software. Like games, for example...
"Photoshop..."
Hardware/software integration that provides a true plug and play experience so you don't have to deal with the damned "Hardware Wizard" from Microsoft whenever you plug in a firewire hard drive or something like that. With OS X, you never get "I see you are trying to add a new hardware device". Rather, you plug the device in and it simply works.
Or, it doesn't work, and nothing happens. Yup, no hardware wizard, just plain nothing. That isn't user-friendly, by any stretch of the imagination.
Also, the hardware feature set among many Macs is far and away pretty impressive. The 12in Powerbook I have has built in Firewire, built in wireless antennas for 802.11g, built in USB, built in ethernet, built in slot loading Superdrive allowing me to burn DVD's, built in support for multiple monitors etc..etc...etc... all in a compact package less than 4lbs with good battery life.
With Apple, you also get thoughtful and well researched design that is completely lacking in the Wintel arena. For instance, the last Wintel laptop I had was a joke compared to this in that the manufacturer placed the fan outlet on the bottom!!!! of the case so that if you were using the laptop on your lap, you blocked the fan output of the laptop thus causing it to overheat. Smart, eh? Or look at the design of the dual G5's. This thing is quiet, fast and easy to work with when adding hardware, and one of the most innovative case designs I have ever seen.
First of all: what possessed you to buy a laptop with a fan on the bottom? That's not only dumb design, but also a dumb purchase.
Second of all, sure, Mac makes pretty hardware. But pretty hardware doesn't justify paying the kind of money they ask for. I have a Shuttle XPC -- it, like the G5, is quiet, fast, easy to work with, and looks cute.
Unlike the G5, though, it only costs about $500 to put one together. The cheapest G5 is $1999. So, I saved about $1499. So, not only can I go to the store and actually find software for my system, but I also have the money to buy it with.
Umm... time is money. So, if I have to work three times as many hours to pay for a Mac when a PC will do, why would I?
And if you know how to set up a PC, and you actually want to be able to buy software for your computer, why would you purchase a Mac? It makes no sense.
a) I dug up some information on you. It's not hard to do.
b) Does it matter? No -- I asked because I felt like it.
c) Yes, so what business do you have in the US? "something's not right..." is hardly business.
Generally you get what you pay for and with Apple products, you get a quality product with features that really do make a difference.
;-)
Features? Like "software"?
Gotcha!
In order for a joke about Australia to be funny, Australia itself would have to be interesting.
(How am I doing?)
See those four letters at the bottom of every page on slashdot? They say OSDN, Open Source Development Network, a project set up to encorage open source development and a subsidury of VA Linux Systems. Why wouldn't you expect it to support Linux with the zeal that is fitting of something with its interests tied so closely with Linux?
What he said has nothing to do with supporting Linux -- he is complaining about the mindless sheepery that is the Slashdot Anti-"M$" Bash-Fest.