"Prudence suggests that since it's our money funding the research, we ought to make sure the public gets some return from the endeavor."
in may cases the return for the endeavour is that they protect whatever they just coded with everything they got so only we have that information because its sensititve and shouldnt be anywhere near the public.
I hear where you are coming from, that the public should get some gain from money spent by the gov.... but dont forget you are getting value. Code is like any other commodity, and just because you cant go use the coffee maker on Enterprise doesn't mean you aren't getting that ever so fragile value of it keeping enemies at bay.
Yeah, it might be cool to be able to see some target aquiring/tracking/gps code.... but I dont want you to have it. No offense, but I just don't know you that well, whearas the military, I've come to feel somewhat safe with them having it.
I find it hard to believe that they were really that 'poor', so much so that you go to a pro wrestler. It was not based on traditional political reasons or thought.
This was a vote that was probably more representative of the mentality that got Santa Barbara University the Banana Slug as a mascot.
And seriously, what world are you living in where jesse ventura as governor is not a little strange?
oh, the one where Ragan and Harey the invisible Rabbit got elected gov of Ca, and then President...
Still, it's strange.
20,000 good theory, but they forget plublicity
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Their theory of controlling by 20,000 voters is good, but if this project went through, and major law changes began, the rest of the population would see this on TV.
For the MAJOR changes they want, the rest of the population would actually vote to put down their little rebellion. NIMBA (not in my backyard as*hole)is a powerful motivational theory.
On another note, my choice for them is any state governed by a pro wrestler. That state has a proven history of voting a bit strangly.
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aol is going to do what the linux community hasnt
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linux community, you are a great experiment, bravo.
but now aol is going to do what you havent been able to yet, and thats:
1. bring a massive amount of normal users to linux via their client.
2. make the normal things that people do with the net possible on linux, with a simple easy to use interface.
3. most importantly in my eyes, this statement will be made by a real normal user: "oh, yeah, my mom uses aol on her lindows/linux whatever computer, and its not complicated, i guess it used to be hard, but its totally cool, tell your friend to just get the cheaper one, you dont need windows."
linux as it stands is the kickass power user platform... and soon it may be the platform for doing things that normal people do (just email, chat, mp3, and shopping).
i see this as a win for you all. congrats. you attracted a major player to your little gem. its a good thing!
man, i really wish i'd get one of these letters so i could have some fun as well.
im jealous... what fun to break up the day... answer and lead on some scam artists!
here's my angle. why not at some point in the transaction make the pivotal part of it that you need to fly there (but a ticket), but you need 200 bucks more to go.
SEE IF YOU CAN GET THEIR CASH!
that would be the crowning achievement. you have your mission... fufill it!
as it is with ever changing technology, theres no way to always be secure, not all the time. so no, you can never be fully protected... so again, why not keep moving?
isnt there some logic to the idea that obscurity is a nice addition the great security?
i mean, i can put on my bulletproof vest, make sure i have body guards... but what about the not eating at the same place every day. doesnt that help make it harder to kill me too?
i think patterns make you predictable, and obvious ecurioty patterns dont help.... and its easy to implement isnt it?
so your solution is exactly what other os's would do.
i said a better solution. that means more people patching somehow.
i dont pretend to know that solution, but surely the linux people will come up with a better way than ms does, so that they stop failing as precisely the same place ms does.
reading slashdot over the years, the zealotry is of course high (im on slashdot, of course it is, and i understand that).
they have always been ravenous to attack ms and exault linux. well, its easy to cheer for the team when its doing well and everything is going pretty much to plan.
now you (the community) are faced with some of the problems that ms faces every day as the popular OS. will your solution be better than theirs, or will hundreds or thousands of the linux os go the way that windows does... to the screen of death?
ill tell you, your solution better be much better, but im going to guess that the people writing worms for linux might be a bit more into the scene than the windows virus writers are... and therefore a bit nastier.
will we hear the cheering stop and the work begin on a better solution? and no "people should know to patch" doesn't work. sadly, you are working with a population and real world corporate structures (not your personal single tower), so its just not feasible. hmm, we'll see what happens, but you might fail right about where ms does... at the part where the consumer must pick up the reigns.
thats just the sort of over-reaction thats going to make a company not want to deal with linux.
be happy they are rectifying the problem.
if you want to encourage linux development, attacking anyone that slips up with reckless abandon is not the way to do it, especially when it may have been an honest mistake.
1. the idiots will try and hack and abuse. 2. the companies will slowly gain awareness, try to figure out how to secure themsleves, secure funding, initiate sucurity protocols, fix holes, etc.
gee, i wonder who will get going first. the company or the idiots.
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lets not confuse "sensors gone wild" with "girls gone wild", where ya have a bunch of girls running around topless.
nor should we confuse this with "censors gone wild", where you have a bunch of girls running around with black blocks and blurs over there chests.
"Prudence suggests that since it's our money funding the research, we ought to make sure the public gets some return from the endeavor."
in may cases the return for the endeavour is that they protect whatever they just coded with everything they got so only we have that information because its sensititve and shouldnt be anywhere near the public.
I hear where you are coming from, that the public should get some gain from money spent by the gov.... but dont forget you are getting value. Code is like any other commodity, and just because you cant go use the coffee maker on Enterprise doesn't mean you aren't getting that ever so fragile value of it keeping enemies at bay.
Yeah, it might be cool to be able to see some target aquiring/tracking/gps code.... but I dont want you to have it. No offense, but I just don't know you that well, whearas the military, I've come to feel somewhat safe with them having it.
I find it hard to believe that they were really that 'poor', so much so that you go to a pro wrestler. It was not based on traditional political reasons or thought.
This was a vote that was probably more representative of the mentality that got Santa Barbara University the Banana Slug as a mascot.
And seriously, what world are you living in where jesse ventura as governor is not a little strange?
oh, the one where Ragan and Harey the invisible Rabbit got elected gov of Ca, and then President...
Still, it's strange.
Their theory of controlling by 20,000 voters is good, but if this project went through, and major law changes began, the rest of the population would see this on TV.
For the MAJOR changes they want, the rest of the population would actually vote to put down their little rebellion. NIMBA (not in my backyard as*hole)is a powerful motivational theory.
On another note, my choice for them is any state governed by a pro wrestler. That state has a proven history of voting a bit strangly.
Give em to good old Mikey, he'll read anything!
IMHO, the end of something that people use should make news, and the end of something that noone uses shouldnt.
or is this just nostalgia?
you just told a gazillion geeks that if they go to thinkgeek they are going to see a nice pair on display.
lets not slashdot thinkgeek.com
damn, i guess links arent auto on slashdot. lt me rephrase that:
m pany.com m pany.com
m pany.com m pany.com
meta tags have little to do with ranking, and have had little to do for a long time.
MUCH more important is to have links to your, say SEO company http://www.search-engine-optimization-services-co
listed on a highly traveled page with many of the keywords that are relevant to your search engine company http://www.search-engine-optimization-services-co
if i was going to try for the ever important link relevancy and popularity rating for my search engine optmization and page ranking company http://www.search-engine-optimization-services-co
I would pay attention to this fact, and take advantage of linking my own site http://www.search-engine-optimization-services-co
when i could.
ahhm, the sweet smell of link relevancy.
meta tags have little to do with ranking, and have had little to do for a long time.
m pany.com listed on a highly traveled page with many of the keywords that are relevant to your search engine company http://www.search-engine-optimization-services-com pany.com.
m pany.com I would pay attention to this fact, and take advantage of linking my own site http://www.search-engine-optimization-services-com pany.com when i could.
MUCH more important is to have links to your, say SEO company http://www.search-engine-optimization-services-co
if i was going to try for the ever important link relevancy and popularity rating for my search engine optmization and page ranking company http://www.search-engine-optimization-services-co
having the proper link
http://www.search-engine-optimization-services-c ompany.com
linux community, you are a great experiment, bravo.
but now aol is going to do what you havent been able to yet, and thats:
1. bring a massive amount of normal users to linux via their client.
2. make the normal things that people do with the net possible on linux, with a simple easy to use interface.
3. most importantly in my eyes, this statement will be made by a real normal user: "oh, yeah, my mom uses aol on her lindows/linux whatever computer, and its not complicated, i guess it used to be hard, but its totally cool, tell your friend to just get the cheaper one, you dont need windows."
linux as it stands is the kickass power user platform... and soon it may be the platform for doing things that normal people do (just email, chat, mp3, and shopping).
i see this as a win for you all. congrats. you attracted a major player to your little gem. its a good thing!
yes, it is.... no tricks, no taking out a aword to email me.... yet alas.... no email. :(
man, i really wish i'd get one of these letters so i could have some fun as well.
im jealous... what fun to break up the day... answer and lead on some scam artists!
here's my angle. why not at some point in the transaction make the pivotal part of it that you need to fly there (but a ticket), but you need 200 bucks more to go.
SEE IF YOU CAN GET THEIR CASH!
that would be the crowning achievement. you have your mission... fufill it!
as it is with ever changing technology, theres no way to always be secure, not all the time. so no, you can never be fully protected... so again, why not keep moving?
isnt there some logic to the idea that obscurity is a nice addition the great security?
i mean, i can put on my bulletproof vest, make sure i have body guards... but what about the not eating at the same place every day. doesnt that help make it harder to kill me too?
i think patterns make you predictable, and obvious ecurioty patterns dont help.... and its easy to implement isnt it?
hehe.
.boomersooner isnt a TLD soon enough... :)
you be the 8th largest ecomony in the world, and then not get all ego on us.... then we'll see if maybe
'Mr. Simonyi has --left-- Microsoft with the right to use the intellectual property he developed and patented while working there.'"
:)
"Left", as in he left it there, for them to use, or...
"Left", as in departed with that right so that it was no longer there and they couldnt use it.
dont tell me i need to read the damn article....
so your solution is exactly what other os's would do.
i said a better solution. that means more people patching somehow.
i dont pretend to know that solution, but surely the linux people will come up with a better way than ms does, so that they stop failing as precisely the same place ms does.
reading slashdot over the years, the zealotry is of course high (im on slashdot, of course it is, and i understand that).
they have always been ravenous to attack ms and exault linux. well, its easy to cheer for the team when its doing well and everything is going pretty much to plan.
now you (the community) are faced with some of the problems that ms faces every day as the popular OS. will your solution be better than theirs, or will hundreds or thousands of the linux os go the way that windows does... to the screen of death?
ill tell you, your solution better be much better, but im going to guess that the people writing worms for linux might be a bit more into the scene than the windows virus writers are... and therefore a bit nastier.
will we hear the cheering stop and the work begin on a better solution? and no "people should know to patch" doesn't work. sadly, you are working with a population and real world corporate structures (not your personal single tower), so its just not feasible. hmm, we'll see what happens, but you might fail right about where ms does... at the part where the consumer must pick up the reigns.
snatchster anyone?
"napster bad!!!"
(very bad, in a naughty kind of way, apparently)
mod that up, now THAT IS FUNNY!!
good job!
mathematician: do you have the formula?
deniro: you talkin to me?
mathematician: yes, give me the numbers please.
deniro: you must be talking to me, i dont see anyone else.
mathematician: yes, im talking to you, why is this such a problem fo you?
deniro: you got a problem?
mathematician: oh god.
but it turns out you can't touch this.
someone mentioned demanding the source code.
thats just the sort of over-reaction thats going to make a company not want to deal with linux.
be happy they are rectifying the problem.
if you want to encourage linux development, attacking anyone that slips up with reckless abandon is not the way to do it, especially when it may have been an honest mistake.
zealots dont make good reps.
both will happen.
1. the idiots will try and hack and abuse.
2. the companies will slowly gain awareness, try to figure out how to secure themsleves, secure funding, initiate sucurity protocols, fix holes, etc.
gee, i wonder who will get going first. the company or the idiots.