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The Porn Of Napster

Thomas M Hughes writes "Well, Napster is breathing its last breath. Filing for chapter 7 and slowly dying. Who better than to try and bring it back to life than a porn company? The article claims that the company wishes to use the Napster name to distribute free pornography across the Internet."

257 comments

  1. Free? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Of course, it will probably all be copyrighted porn, so they'll get sued by all the pornographers now too.

    Getting sued by the RIAA vs. getting sued by pornographers... which is worst?

    1. Re:Free? by superpeach · · Score: 1

      They wont be sued by pornographers, the RIAA will just spawn the PAA in an attempt to get even more money from file swapping services.

    2. Re:Free? by marko123 · · Score: 3, Funny

      I want to be punished by pornographers, if it means being tied to a post and tickled with feathers by big-breasted blondes. Compare this with being bent over by the RIAA, and having all the CD's I copied for fair use jammed blunt-ways up my butt.

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    3. Re:Free? by nastro · · Score: 1

      Isn't this already a problem with usenet? Say, for instance, scans of various magazines, or copies of "legitimate" porn sites .jpgs get distributed on usenet (as happens regularly...so I've been told :) ). These images are all copyrighted. So what difference does p2p make, if it's all just file sharing, anyway?

    4. Re:Free? by Eros · · Score: 1

      Most definitely the RIAA. The porn industry is mostly run by the maffia, so if you lose all your money, consider yourself lucky.

    5. Re:Free? by Vireo · · Score: 5, Informative

      Read the article. Private wants to use its own copyrighted material as a base.

      [i]Private Media claims to own the largest library of adult-oriented content in the world, with global copyrights to the content.

      "Along with Hollywood and the recording industry, we have become increasingly concerned about the level of copyright infringement inherent in the free peer-to-peer file swapping services," Prast said.[/i]

    6. Re:Free? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Of course, it will probably all be copyrighted porn, so they'll get sued by all the pornographers now too.

      Getting sued by the RIAA vs. getting sued by pornographers... which is worst?

      Would this be a pair-to-pair network?

    7. Re:Free? by Qrlx · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Isn't this already a problem with usenet?

      Problem? Yeah, there's lots of porn on usenet. That's a problem?

    8. Re:Free? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, it is a problem. It's not sorted. That well. Ok, so maybe it is. But there's spam.

    9. Re:Free? by OneFix · · Score: 5, Informative

      Most definitely the RIAA. The porn industry is mostly run by the maffia, so if you lose all your money, consider yourself lucky.

      Oh, and where exactly do you get this kind of information? I'ld really like to know...

      It might seem glamourous to think this, but it's simply not true. The industry runs off of money and profit just like any other industry. The larger magazines/sites/filmmakers can afford to get better models and can also afford to treat their models/photographers/employees better. In actuality, the porn industry co-exists with hollywood/mainstream media...they use similar distribution channels and similar business models.

      If you look at the history of Playboy Enterprises, Larry Flynt Publications (Hustler)...who might I add runs his own Linux-based weblog, and General Media Communications, Inc. (Penthouse). You will find that they are all owned and operated by corporations/individuals and follow the letter of the law...they have to, because they are watched closely by special interest groups.

      And at least in the instance of Hustler, their website is running off of Linux.

    10. Re:Free? by evilempireinc · · Score: 2, Funny

      Why just be a whore, when you can be a corporate whore?

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    11. Re:Free? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, if you consider Hell Angels, Bandidos (badidos make me think of dildo, funny) to be law abiding, why not invite them to be your neighbors.

    12. Re:Free? by Psx29 · · Score: 1
      And at least in the instance of Hustler, their website is running off of Linux.

      Great, just what we need, more linux whores!

    13. Re:Free? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So Can I sue the RIAA for unsolicited pr0n??? O'd love to take a good caplitalist model run it into the ground and pretend not to be nazi capitalist scum. Wait no that'd make me most USA companies that pretented to like capitalism but still like the facism protection that is provided by draconian organisations like the RIAA

      Sue for damages or let them die like dinosaurs.............

    14. Re:Free? by Superfreaker · · Score: 1

      The pron industry is larger than all of the major sport leagues COMBINED. Even before the net it was much bigger.

      Porn is #1. RIAA is miniscule compared to this group.

    15. Re:Free? by geekoid · · Score: 2

      What is with all the Linux comments? I like to see linux running, but it really has nothing to do with the Mafia point.
      Unless you believe the Mafia is stupid enough to keep putting its information in the hands of MS.
      Now, youz ain't saying da mafia is stupid, are youz?

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  2. the porn of slashdot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I like to view them diaper pictures

    1. Re:the porn of slashdot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Slashdot...I came for the ASCII Goatse pr0n; I stayed for the trolls!

  3. Nice.. by PFAK · · Score: 0

    Free porn will be a nice thing for the internet. But I don't think it'll fly, people will end up putting up porn that isn't free. Unless its just files that the distributors put up and then people can download and the serve on their own.. Boy, that would sure be a bandwidth hog.. I can't wait to see if it this happens.

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    1. Re:Nice.. by mclaren_1010 · · Score: 0

      it made sense to me if the company put up there own stuff and if you wanted to buy it you could... probably like 3 minute clips..

  4. Why do that want Napster... by EvanED · · Score: 3, Interesting

    "'Along with Hollywood and the recording industry, we have become increasingly concerned about the level of copyright infringement inherent in the free peer-to-peer file swapping services,' Prast said."

    If this is true, why would they want to use a brand name that was almost entirely devoted to copyright violation?

    1. Re:Why do that want Napster... by Anonymous+DWord · · Score: 2

      Because there's no such thing as bad publicity? Even your mother knows what Napster is (was).

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    2. Re:Why do that want Napster... by great+throwdini · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Why would [Private Media] want to use a brand name that was almost entirely devoted to copyright violation?

      Probably for the same reason Bertelsman got involved: brand recognition.

      Alternate theory: PM doesn't want Napster, they want press.

      ps. I think I sampled the statement better yesterday -- who's Prast again? :p

    3. Re:Why do that want Napster... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And God knows, if there's one thing mothers want, it's easy access to porn.

    4. Re:Why do that want Napster... by Lag+Master · · Score: 1

      heh, my mom is a porn-oholic... we used to get all the tv channels (including skin-a-max), but she shut it off because she watched too much porn :p.... doesnt stop her from going to the men only sites tho (i wash my keyboard daily).

    5. Re:Why do that want Napster... by GutBomb · · Score: 2

      If this is true, why would they want to use a brand name that was almost entirely devoted to copyright violation?

      There were plenty of people who didn't know they were violating copyrights and simply thought of napster was synonymous with "extremely easy to find exactly what you are looking for"

      On a side note, i have recieved lots of porn spam in my day, and i have recieved some from this "Napster Porn". I didn't dare try downloading the software for fear of some automatic dialer (not to mention that the software doesn't run on macs anyway, and i don't understand russian...)

      So this is nothing new. they have been using the name "Napster Porn" for over a year without actually owning the name Napster. here is a mail that showed up on the redhat mailing list in august of 2001. now either this guy that is tring to buy napster is the same guy, or he saw the russian guys and got inspired.

    6. Re:Why do that want Napster... by Zeinfeld · · Score: 3, Interesting
      Because there's no such thing as bad publicity? Even your mother knows what Napster is (was).

      They are making a stock offer for the assets of a company in chapter 7. I can't recall a case in which a bankrupcy court accepted a stock offer for assets of a chapter 7 company. On top of that the stock is not listed so the it is impossible to judge what value the creditors would receive.

      Bascially this is a pure publicity play. There is virtually no chance that the offer would be accepted.

      I don't quite see the pay off, if napster was public and on the verge then an offer of a buyout could cause the stock to rise, allowing someone to dump stock or options at a profit. But with napster in its current situation that can't be the motive. I don't see what publicity for an anonymous holding company does either.

      This could simply be a brainless exec on an ego trip. Or they could be planning to go public themselves.

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    7. Re:Why do that want Napster... by SparafucileMan · · Score: 1

      Because free porn is everywhere on the WWW already. The only deal is that its a bitch to find because you have crawl through a bunch of web pages with false links, popup windows, etc. If they allow easy access to a bunch of their porn, they'll get the real signups that webmasters are getting now. Its a bad idea though, I think. Now with Mozilla out, all the programs like Napster, Hotline, etc will just move to the web and be guaranteed a wider audience than a Napster clone.

    8. Re:Why do that want Napster... by Anonymous+DWord · · Score: 2

      Is she cute? What's her email address? :-P

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    9. Re:Why do that want Napster... by Lag+Master · · Score: 1

      dude, my mom is 53 *shudders*... and there is no wayyyyy in hell she is under 200 pounds...

    10. Re:Why do that want Napster... by shaka · · Score: 1

      What do you mean, not listed? Am I totally misunderstanding you, or what?
      Anyway, Private Media Group is listed on Nasdaq as PRVT.

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    11. Re:Why do that want Napster... by _ph1ux_ · · Score: 2

      because they can leverage an infrastructure for distribution thats pre-existing. and for the most part - they see anyone who has napster to be a potential client. and as the other poster pointed out napster is practically a household band name now.

      how better to bring fine hot college sluts the want your DICK NOW!! to the masses.

  5. whoda thunk? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You'd think the edits of slashdot would actually _real_ slashdot?

  6. All the pr0n we'll ever need! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm sure if just a couple geeks get together, we can provide terabytes of pr0n to the rest of the world, because every geek has several gigabytes of porn!!!

    Well, I do, at least :P

  7. New meaning... by Eric_Cartman_South_P · · Score: 5, Funny
    P2P. So what exactly does the P stand for again? It ain't "peer" anymore, thats for sure!

    1. Re:New meaning... by Cubeman · · Score: 1

      P2P = Porn to People!

    2. Re:New meaning... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      P2P = penis to penis

    3. Re:New meaning... by drafalski · · Score: 4, Funny

      The last P...well...that's not that simple
      It's sorta like another way to call a cat a kitten
      It's five little letters that are missin' here

    4. Re:New meaning... by di0s · · Score: 1

      If this goes thru, it'll stand for Porn 2 the People, or something to that effect... =)

    5. Re:New meaning... by bilbobuggins · · Score: 5, Funny
      I think you mean P2OPP

      sorry, i couldn't resist

    6. Re:New meaning... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      explain please

    7. Re:New meaning... by kin_korn_karn · · Score: 5, Funny

      yeah, well, you know me

    8. Re:New meaning... by OverlordQ · · Score: 1

      Porn 2 Person

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    9. Re:New meaning... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, penis to pussy

    10. Re:New meaning... by tuxedo-steve · · Score: 1

      Or does he mean entropy?

      E-N-T-to the-R-to the-O-to the-P-to the-Y (the reason the sun will one day burn up and die?)

      Word.

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    11. Re:New meaning... by abischof · · Score: 2

      "Well I know a little kitty kitty who's sleeping with mommy tonight." -- Cartman's Mom

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  8. Napster is dead by motox · · Score: 2

    Napster itself died long time ago. It's just becoming a generic term to designate P2P services... they all say "like napster but it works" :)

    1. Re:Napster is dead by messiertom · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Ironically, I find that Napster was the only P2P that worked reliably for me.

      With the new ones, I can only connect to a few search servers, and even when I do, half of what I search for ends up just being pr0n with "kraftwerk" in its filename.

    2. Re:Napster is dead by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Napster itself died long time ago,

      its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.
    3. Re:Napster is dead by modecx · · Score: 1

      I'll have to agree that Napster protocol/OpenNAP worked far better than pretty much everything I have tried since. MusicCity, before it became the Morpheous/FastTrack hell hole, was a great place to hang out, talk with like minded people from all over, and browse a very diverse music selection. #Gnapster, now that was the place for trout weilding VAX hurlers(not to mention the prolific eyebrow licking), I tells ya. I'll have to say that I bought more CDs when MusicCity was going then I have, ever. It was just too easy to find great new sounds, tell everyone else who cared, and be happy.

      Gnutella is ok, but I almost always have problems with nodes not responding, poorly configured firewalls, users terminating transfers, poor or mis-named media, etc. If I leave my session on for a good long time it usually finds a few good nodes, so it's not a great network for impulse searches (atleast in my experience) Not to mention that Gnutella by design is woefully impersonal; and even though some modern clients have a chat ability, people rarely respond, or are complete dickheads. There is no community to speak of in Gnutella.

      I haven't had the desire to really mess with any of the other sharing networks, but I hear edonkey2000 is okay, so I may have to give it a go.

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    4. Re:Napster is dead by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      with "kraftwerk" in its filename.

      Kraftwerk, eh? You should give Big Black's version of "The Model" a spin. That's how I learned about Kraftwerk.

  9. Just a guess by brad3378 · · Score: 2

    I wonder if they are responsible for Pornster?

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  10. p2w by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    It would soon become P2W, porn to wankers

  11. i wonder by mrpuffypants · · Score: 2, Funny

    what the logo will look like now....

    1. Re:i wonder by Joutsa · · Score: 1

      Considering what some music-related logos look like, it will be really bad...

    2. Re:i wonder by GigsVT · · Score: 2, Funny

      what the logo will look like now....

      It will have a little pussy on it.

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    3. Re:i wonder by Tackhead · · Score: 2
      > i wonder what the logo will look like now....

      "Ded pussy?" (eeeewwww!)

      "Wet kitty?" (much nicer!)

      I just hope the graphics are better than that tombstone the Napster guys did.

      If you'd known about this during trading hours on the 12th (and sold your stock on the 13th!) it would have been a nice trade, but IMHO a look at PRVT's one-year stock chart still says "Fucked Company".

      There's plenty of ways to blow a wad of cash in this market. I'd think hard before going long here.

  12. Oldest Known Penis Is 100 Million Years Old by fuckinggodalmighty · · Score: 0


    LEICESTER, England (Reuters) - Sex was first recognized in the fossil records more than 500 million years ago and the oldest known penis is about 100 million years old, a conference heard on Friday.

    It belongs to an ostracod, an early crustacean related to crabs, shrimps and water fleas, and was found in a fossil sample unearthed in Brazil.

    "To my knowledge it is the oldest penis. I don't know of any older," Professor David Siveter, of the University of Leicester, told the British Association science conference.

    Dinosaurs were around 100 million years ago but the only known dinosaur fossils are of bones, not soft tissue.

    In fact the ostracod fossil had not one penis but two.

    Siveter, an expert in paleontology, believes ostracods are very sexy animals because they have the second longest sperm in the animal kingdom. A one millimeter ostracod can produce a single sperm 10 millimeters long.

    "An ostracod has the longest sperm to body ratio of any animal known to man, so clearly it has to have special equipment to deal with the sperm. It doesn't have one penis, it has two. We found the two penises in a 100 million year old fossil," he said.

    By studying gender and sexuality and how far it goes back in the fossil record, Siveter said scientists can learn more about how animal reproduction evolved and behavioral traits.

    In a separate presentation, Professor Scott Sampson of the University of Utah Museum of Natural History in the United States said that dinosaurs probably used their enormous horns, pikes, plates and crests to attract the opposite sex, in a similar way that peacocks use their colorful array of feathers.

    Some of the appendages were used as weapons but Sampson said others were simply not strong enough to be useful against an enemy and like deer or antelope they used the horns to impress potential mates.

    "I think the evidence is quite strong that dinosaurs did too," he said.

    1. Re:Oldest Known Penis Is 100 Million Years Old by superpeach · · Score: 1

      In fact the ostracod fossil had not one penis but two.

      Obviously born to be a porn star.

    2. Re:Oldest Known Penis Is 100 Million Years Old by fuckinggodalmighty · · Score: 0

      The ostracod is likely to be the oldest anus as well, since they did have an anus [google cache].

  13. getting reamed by kyoko21 · · Score: 1

    Napster for p0rn should be interesting. Regulated p0rn distribution. Wait, that sounds like an oxymoron. :-) None the less though, I wonder what will the new Napster look like...

    1. Re:getting reamed by mrpuffypants · · Score: 1

      i imagine that it will be veeeery dark (so mom can't see the glow off the screen)

  14. wait a sec... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I thought porn was already free...??

  15. It's still copyright infringement... unless.... by tweakt · · Score: 3, Funny
    The porn is free...

    ...and more importantly, open-source :)

    1. Re:It's still copyright infringement... unless.... by rlwhite · · Score: 1

      ...so that have to distribute the negatives or highest quality digital copies? Great, now we get the 5 megapixel shots.

    2. Re:It's still copyright infringement... unless.... by messiertom · · Score: 2, Funny

      > ...and more importantly, open-source :)

      You mean, all of the pr0n stars are shared and we're free to modify them as we wish?! Mmmmmmm........ sign me up.

    3. Re:It's still copyright infringement... unless.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If we have to pay for it, would that give new meaning to the term "money shot"?

    4. Re:It's still copyright infringement... unless.... by geekoid · · Score: 2

      but NOT open sores.

      nobody needs that kind of porn...

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  16. Won't Last Long by idiotnot · · Score: 1, Redundant

    P2P with centralized servers with lists of content, whether pr0n or music, will inevitably end up trading "intellectual property." This could range from pics that are owned by a magazine (ever hit the alt.binaries groups and see the # of posts looking for a recent playboy spread), or the 31337 k1dd13z learning that if you append .mpeg to the end of your Metallica tune, it'll look just like pr0n on the servers. Then the RIAA comes after them again.

    As for the videos that could possibly be traded.....Is there such thing as an MPPAA? :-D

  17. liquidation by CySurflex · · Score: 1
    as it prepared to go into Chapter 7 liquidation

    a.k.a the "money shot"

  18. Interesting...Private Media's Stock Soared by chip2000 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Anyone notice that in the article it mentions a 2.41 stock value and the quote at the foot of the article mentions a ~22% gain (.55)? It's no surprise I suppose considering that the porn industry is a multi-billion dollar one, but still kind of astounding. Another half million for Napster if they accept..

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    1. Re:Interesting...Private Media's Stock Soared by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's quite interesting. I think I'll be watching their stock for the next few weeks to see how much it fluctuates.

    2. Re:Interesting...Private Media's Stock Soared by swb · · Score: 2

      Hard to see where the gain comes from. Their stock has underpeformed the NASDAQ and the S&P by something on the order of 45% in the past year and is off nearly 70% from a year ago.

      I think there's a lot of money changing hands in the porn industry, but I can't believe that outside of a few niche players (Playboy, Hustler, Penthouse, some video companies) that there's this massive, platinum-plated industry out there. I think there's a lot of places just breaking even, and an awful lot of organized crime skimming going on.

    3. Re:Interesting...Private Media's Stock Soared by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There's a lot of money being made in porn, and a lot of it is being made by smaller companies than you would think.

      Look at the success of videos from (say) http://www.bangbus.com. These videos, which purport to be made by 2 guys in a van who drive around and convince girls to have sex with them. While the authenticity of the action is questioned by many - many believe the girls are paid pros, and I'm not sure a big company ISN'T behind the videos, it's clear that this kind of video COULD be easily made and distributed by the guy next door.

      Also look at http://www.ideepthroat.com, which features an apparently married woman who seems to service only her husband, videos of which are also widely circulated on the Net. You don't need to be a Penthouse, Playboy, or Vivid to make these videos - which are almost certainly making TONS of money.

    4. Re:Interesting...Private Media's Stock Soared by invenustus · · Score: 1

      The IDT videos show up a lot on P2P filesharing systems. The people on those systems are, one would assume, paying $0.00 per download. I wonder how much IDT is really making.

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    5. Re:Interesting...Private Media's Stock Soared by chip2000 · · Score: 1

      But I believe you're missing the point. There is no doubt that IDT videos are being circulated in a variety of ways that don't generate to profit for the couple involved, but when one undertakes such a low-expense operation, there is very little cost to cut out of income to get a net product.

      In other words, after the costs of running a site and the time consumed in making the videos (+ the one time camcorder expense) EVERYTHING is profit. That is one of the things that makes the porn industry so profitable: it can be done by just about anyone (with a bit of starting funds and some women)

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    6. Re:Interesting...Private Media's Stock Soared by invenustus · · Score: 1

      Definitely. And, of course, even if that guy is losing money, he's still benefiting. :)

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  19. Don't follow any links by Fryed · · Score: 1

    Man, it's like the editors of Slashdot are posting this story as bait for every troll to come out and post a goatse.cx link.

    Or the hordes of people posting the old adage of "All advances in technology are driving by a desire for easier access to pornography."

    So be warned, any link that a post in this thread links to could conceivably redirect you to a dreaded goatse.cx link. Click on things at your own risk.

    1. Re:Don't follow any links by jcoy42 · · Score: 2
      So be warned, any link that a post in this thread links to could conceivably redirect you to a dreaded goatse.cx link.

      If you are logged in, there is a setting you can adjust in preferences under the comments tab. If you scroll all the way down, You'll see this radio button:

      Display Link Domains? (shows the actual domain of any link in brackets)

      If you choose "Always show link domains", you always will.
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    2. Re:Don't follow any links by ceejayoz · · Score: 2

      Of course, if someone uses something like this link (DON'T CLICK), the domain thing is useless...

  20. Time to update my resume by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A representative for Napster, which recently closed its doors and terminated all but a few of its remaining 42 staffers as it prepared to go into Chapter 7 liquidation, was not available for comment.

    Usually this means that they layed off too many. And boy, what a time to go work for Napster ;-)

  21. More Stories by leibnizme · · Score: 3, Informative

    Additional coverage:

    CNN

    SiliconValley

    Yahoo

    1. Re:More Stories by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Did you actually read the "additional coverage" or just throw links up there?

      Let's look at the attributions: news.com = Reuters, SiliconValley = Mercury News (shame, shame) = Reuters, Yahoo = ecommercetimes.com, CNN = CNN/Money (but I see a lot of Reuters in it).

      Yeah, thanks for three additional retellings of the same non-event.

  22. re: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Porn on the Internet?? Really?
    Where have I been? /sarcasm

  23. I still use Napster! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Has anyone here fired up an old copy of Napster lately? I had an old Napster install program burnt on a CD, and I fired it up under WINE yesterday -- I connected, and although the selection isn't as great as it was in its heyday, I can still get a lot of great MP3s from there at fantastic speeds!

    Does anyone have an explanation for this? I thought Napster was dead!

    1. Re:I still use Napster! by MoneyT · · Score: 2

      I thought Napster was dead!

      That's what they wanted you to believe.

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  24. Wow! by istartedi · · Score: 5, Funny

    Free porn? Wow! This is just what the Internet needs! coughUSENETcough.

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  25. Re:getting reamed by lawmakers by saskboy · · Score: 1

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/2241855.stm
    Che ck out this news that took place in northern Europe, where people are so smart, they are forgetting to have kids.

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  26. Might be a plan by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    My goodness:
    Well, Napster is breathing its last breath. Filing for chapter 7 and slowly dying.
    Incredibly similar to the way BSD is dying. Maybe BSD should reinvent itself as "the porn os". Might work.
  27. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 3, Funny

    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  28. Name change by cheebie · · Score: 1

    They'll probably have to change the name to "Lapster".

    1. Re:Name change by Salsaman · · Score: 1

      Yeah I like that idea : Lapster - You're allowed to download anything, but you mustn't use your hands !

  29. Another way to get pr0n by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Patent sex, and get all the prior art, heh.

    1. Re:Another way to get pr0n by Kredal · · Score: 2

      A method for propegating human genes between two people using no genetic science.

      The Kama Sutra is attached as a reference manual.

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  30. Fate... by BlindSpot · · Score: 2, Funny

    Napster anagrams to "panters", so it must be fate!

    ("Pantser" works too...)

    1. Re:Fate... by Tablizer · · Score: 2

      "Pantser" works too

      You mean "Unpantser"

  31. Couple important bits by Roadmaster · · Score: 5, Informative

    A lot of people seem to have missed these two quotes from the article:

    "Along with Hollywood and the recording industry, we have become increasingly concerned about the level of copyright infringement inherent in the free peer-to-peer file swapping services,"

    and

    "Private Media claims to own the largest library of adult-oriented content in the world, with global copyrights to the content."

    Assuming they stick to charging users for access to their network and making sure only their content gets "shared", it doesn't look like they'll be shut down by the RIAA, MPAA or sued into the ground for trading content without the adequate rights. Plus, it's not like the MPAA would be too concerned by porn flicks being traded on the service...

    1. Re:Couple important bits by Tablizer · · Score: 5, Funny

      "Private Media claims to own the largest library of adult-oriented content in the world, with global copyrights to the content."

      Somebody at the copyright office has a really cool job.

    2. Re:Couple important bits by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Somebody at the copyright office has a really cool job.

      Boss: "Bob! You have been goofing off. You do nothing but view porn all day!"

      Bob: "But boss, that is my job. Remember I am in the Adult Materials Copyright Review Department."

      Boss: "Oh, right."

    3. Re:Couple important bits by JerkBoB · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Call me a 'troll' a million times, but you *still* lack decent evidence OOP is objectively better

      Is this a pun? I'm drunk as hell, so I'm not sure.

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    4. Re:Couple important bits by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I guess that quote was not taking into account the size of some "private collections" owned by /.ers. Cowboy Neals collection alone would make Larry Flint blush.

    5. Re:Couple important bits by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So where does the P2P part come in?

      If I'm paying a monthly fee to get porn over the P2P network from the people that own the p2p network (ie, the guys who own the porn copyrights they're talking about) then I'll be damned if I'm going to in turn share my bandwidth by redistributing their porn to everyone else.

      Plus, I'd hate to see the possible legal ramifications of *ME* re-distributing *their* copyrighted porn to *other* users on the network, even if that is the whole point of it.

      It'll die before it's born. What a stupid idea.

    6. Re:Couple important bits by BollocksToThis · · Score: 1

      "Private Media claims to own the largest library of adult-oriented content in the world, with global copyrights to the content."

      In other words, they've been archiving porn off usenet for the last ten years.

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  32. Doubt it will happen... by coene · · Score: 2

    Simply for the reason that the top exec's at Napster want to keep their names "clean". If they sell out to a porn company, regardless of their (lack of) future involvement, it will limit their opportunities in the future. It's really sad that this is how it works, but true nonetheless.

    Selling WOULD be the best business decision, Napster is a dead name otherwise -- and this is a way to bring in some cash (to pay creditors, employees, whatever). Too bad the CEO's wont soil their names to prevent bankrupcy...

  33. Yeah, that's a MUCH better business model.... by zerofoo · · Score: 2

    "Private Media said it plans to use the Napster trademark to offer millions of adults worldwide the ability to swap adult-oriented content for free and to also gain access to "top quality" content at a reasonable price."

    So one guy/gal buys the "top quality" stuff and then trades it to the rest of the Pornster users for free. How, exactly, does one make money this way?

    -ted

    1. Re:Yeah, that's a MUCH better business model.... by J'raxis · · Score: 1

      "Making money" doesn't mean "squeezing every person who glimpses it for as much as possible." As long as someone can earn back more than they spent making a product, they're "making money."

    2. Re:Yeah, that's a MUCH better business model.... by Pfhor · · Score: 2

      Well, considering that they only have to deal with the hosting fees of the central servers, paying them for entrance onto the network (something similar to adultcheck or something) means that they will probably very low expenses. All the bandwidth for the data would be provided by the members, and they would just have to seed out the high quality stuff, and let it trickle down to the rest of the users.

      Could make it a lot easier than trying to download porn movies off of kazaa or something like that.

    3. Re:Yeah, that's a MUCH better business model.... by Wedge1024 · · Score: 1

      In addition, it wouldn't be difficult to incorporate a pay search tab, where you'd have to pay for 'higher quality' movies to download.

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    4. Re:Yeah, that's a MUCH better business model.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      goddamnit, do you want free pr0n or not? :D

  34. I hope this works out by artoo · · Score: 1

    Think about it for a second. There definitely are copyright issues, and it seems though there always has been and always will be newsgroups for getting this stuff (as well as music, movies, and all sorts of warez). But if this company can make a business model that increases sales for the pr0n they market (however they plan to do it), maybe the RIAA and MPAA will wake up and realize they can use this technology instead of trying to kill it off.

    Though, even if this new "Napster" is successful, I doubt **AA organizations will try to get the consumers of their products what they want. They seem to be kinda dense in that respect.

  35. It will make it as long as it has one small filter by TrollsamaBinLaden · · Score: 1

    Check this box to filter out anything with Ron Jeremy or goatse.

    It can be tough mentioning goatse and staying on topic you know.

  36. Worse than MP3 theft by Archon-X · · Score: 1

    I can forsee trouble ahead here. There's actually no such thing as public domain porn.

    The penalties for illegal transfer of copyrighted porn are harsh, and in my experience, such litigation events are open-close-pay-lots-of-money to them affairs

    1. Re:Worse than MP3 theft by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "...and in my experience, such litigation events are open-close-pay-lots-of-money to them affairs"

      In your experience? Really? Care to share?

    2. Re:Worse than MP3 theft by Archon-X · · Score: 1

      Sure. I sell the stuff, and i've seen cases where people 'borrow' or blatantly rip off content, and have lawsuits arrive on their doorstep the next day. Usually it's a sease-and-desist arrangement on the first offense, but you can be charged up to $60US per illegal image per day.

    3. Re:Worse than MP3 theft by ceejayoz · · Score: 2

      If you'd read the article, you'd have found out that the company trying to buy Napster's domain already owns the copyrights on the porn they'd be distributing.

  37. Napster isn't P2P by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    For anyone who may not be aware, Napster isn't Peer-to-Peer, thats why it was so easily shut down and blocked by firewalls. It's client-server, remove the server and it doesn't work. (to say nothing of all the unofficial server software flying around, all the independent networks probably got sued out of existance along with the official one.)

    1. Re:Napster isn't P2P by Istealmymusic · · Score: 1
      That's not true, Napster is peer-to-peer, as in direct AIM, ICQ, video conferencing, and IRC DCC. Centralized peer-to-peer using a central server for indexing, but peer-to-peer nonetheless.

      Decentralized networks avoid a central server by passing search query data around supernodes/ultrapeers, FastTrack being one such example. As is Gnutella; but Gnutella's a particularly bad example, as well as a bad P2P network protocol.

      As for your comment about "blocked by firewalls", firewall ACLs are irrelevant. Firewalls can block a central server just as well as they can block incoming connections (removing one half of the visible P2P hosts), specific ports (1214, FastTrack), and specific data ("GNUTELLA OK\n\n" or "User-Agent: Gnutella\r\n").

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  38. Copyrighted porn by TrollsamaBinLaden · · Score: 1

    You know if the picture doesn't show the faces of the people involved it's going to be a real bitch to prove who is who for any kind of copyright purposes anyway. I expect this service to be an easy way to find mockup britney porn and the like.

    Hell, imagine what kind of spyware will be built into it...talk about pop ups...hehe.

    1. Re:Copyrighted porn by SoSueMe · · Score: 1

      Hell, imagine what kind of spyware will be built into it...talk about pop ups...hehe.

      In more ways than one!

  39. I am so tired.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...i need a nap.

  40. Huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I could have sworn that Kazaa already did this. I mean, where else would a search for Mozart bring up porn other than on the Fasttrak network?

  41. In your "zip" code... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Now they could charge the Amateur Pornographers for distribution of their "content" ... this could be the new business model.

  42. Wanking.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Up to now, the RIAA's pursuit of Napster has been very much a wank..

    Selling out to pr0n merchants really confirms this!!

  43. technology by Durin00 · · Score: 1

    ...this just reaffirms that there is no technology that the porn industry cannot benefit from

  44. Perhaps this will be like mplayer of old by TrollsamaBinLaden · · Score: 1

    They may have a little built in app that has webcam streaming so people that want to do their best goatse imitation can sit around at their pc and watch. I saw some freaky stuff on mplayer before they started charging. Perhaps this is something they have in mind... a community of webcam shows and hell...they may jusy offer some nice hosting packing for the peeps that wanna show their booty at a higher quality and higher bandwidth. Oh never mind me, it's just an idea that hit me... and probably not quite on the mark. I just wonder where the money would be made in this.

  45. Free porn nice? Nope, it'll hurt by 6Yankee · · Score: 1

    I don't think it'll fly, people will end up putting up porn that isn't free.

    A bigger problem is who's going to pay for all this bandwidth. It isn't going to be the ISPs, that's for sure.

    All this P2P stuff is likely to cost all of us dear unless something revolutionary happens (and in my opinion, this would still only delay the inevitable).This BBC article has more detail about possible consequences, and actually mentions Napster porn (admittedly as an afterthought).

  46. Whoa... by rice_web · · Score: 1

    All I can say is, "w00t".

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  47. I know a technology that noone benefits from by TrollsamaBinLaden · · Score: 1

    I think its called .NET

    Also...
    I don't know about you but I think in the context of porn, micro and soft are usually bad things.

  48. RIAA to P2P users, obligatory post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    All your pr0n are belong to us!

  49. Bug in the mix by Tablizer · · Score: 2


    I signed up for this service that promised to let me grab porn from other members' machines.

    However, it keeps coming back with nothing but their MS-Word documents.

  50. This is silly by gedanken · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Why pay for the naptser brand name? Yeah free publicity... but seriously if their service is at all usuable it will spread by word of mouth about as fast as word of a porn only napster would.

  51. but its not the CEO's decision by phriedom · · Score: 2

    ultimately, the owners/lenders/board members get to decide whom, what, and how much of Napster gets sold, and what the price is. Its the money people that have the final say, not the CEO, unless he is a majority owner. Those people are all for recovering as much as their losses as possible, and they are not going to be too worried about sullying the image of Napster, 'cuz its dead.

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  52. their new slogan by EventHorizon · · Score: 1

    "why jerk off, when you can napsterbate?"

    well, it sounded funny in my head, anyway.

    1. Re:their new slogan by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      hey that was funny!

  53. May prove Napster model by fermion · · Score: 5, Insightful
    It seems to me that this may validate Napster type services as a valid marketing tool. Napster was unable to do this with musics because the RIAA is unwilling to compete in the open market place. They, like sports teams, MS, and other monopolists, know that is often more efficient to purchase lawmakers than actually compete for market share.

    OTOH, the porn industry, which may find it more difficult find (openly) sympathetic legislators, and has a much lower cost of entry, tends to compete vigorously. The porn industry does look for innovative methods to gain market share, to distinguish themselves from the other 600 business card size ads in Hustler. Sometimes this competition leads to Spam, other times it leads to extensive free content in newsgroups, or aggressively priced introductory offers.

    Which means that Private Media Group may actually have the experience, motivation, and cash to make Napster work. This may provide a way to differentiate their product form their competitors. If they are successfull, it will be harder to argue that Napster's only use is for pirating, and further increase evidence that content monopolies are primarily concerned about loss of control.

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    1. Re:May prove Napster model by plierhead · · Score: 1
      Right on !

      Consider the porn industry as the cockroaches of the digital world, doing a disgusting job that nonetheless many people need done for them.

      Just as cockroaches are allegedly the only creatures that will survive a nuclear holocaust, can scare your sister shitless and are also capable of inspiring such terrifying creative works as "The Nest", so the porn industry might use Napster to create an immense new force that sweeps over the post-crash Internet world like a tsunami.

      Napster, the perfect delivery mechanism, and Porn, the perfect content, combine to create something I just wish I knew how to invest in. Oh, I guess that would be Private Media Group !

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    2. Re:May prove Napster model by tmark · · Score: 2

      Huh ? How does RIAA objecting to the distribution of copyrighted material for free consitute unwillingness to "compete in the open market place" ? If (say) Richard Stallman raises an objection to (say) commercial distribution sans source of (say) GPL'ed software like GNU Emacs, does this constitute unwillingness to compete in the open market place ?
      And how would this 'prove' the Napster model anyways ? This company's model is COMPLETELY different than Napsters - they plan to make available content owned and copyrighted by THEMSELVES. Napster was built around making trading available of content owned and copyrighted BY SOMEONE ELSE. BIG difference.

    3. Re:May prove Napster model by fermion · · Score: 1
      I am not talking about the distribution of music for free. In this case, the porn industry is likely going to charge for at least some content delivered through the Napster mechanism.

      What I am talking about is the unwillingness of the RIAA to allow alternative distribution mechanisms. Napster was put out bussiness because it resulted in a lack of control of RIAA. Streaming music over the internet is a loss of control. Some still bitch at the way MTV was allowed to show videos without large royalty fees, even though MTV probably was the single biggest factor in the success of the music industry after the late 70's slump.

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  54. Re:The goatse guy is WIDE OPEN SOURCE by ogre2112 · · Score: 0

    I believe that would be open SORES.

  55. napster to release a branded shareaza (maybe) by havaloc · · Score: 1

    This may be totally crazy, but I've read in one or two places that Shareaza is releasing a branded Napster/Gnutella clone to be distributed from Napster.com

    Its interesting because the creator of Shareaza when asked about this possible development said "I can't comment on that."

  56. They could rename napster..... by Chanc_Gorkon · · Score: 0, Troll

    Pornster
    Boner
    Titty Factory
    Hardon
    Pussy
    Vaiginer
    Boneher

    Just a few off the top of my head.

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  57. New name. by NegativeK · · Score: 1

    Perhaps they should just skip the purchase of Napster, and just make a service called Nappy-Stare.

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  58. So, as I predicted... by Mandoric · · Score: 4, Funny

    ... They've finally created Fapster. =D

    (reference to A!THL^WSexy Losers...)

  59. Wait... by Alari · · Score: 1

    You mean the guys who just spammed me? Um, great... =P

    Alari

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  60. Good for them. by jade42 · · Score: 1

    This is another victory for capitalism in it's best form.

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  61. jury duty by intermodal · · Score: 1

    jury duty just got more fun...just imagine the look on the 80 year old great grandmother on the jury's face when asked to compare these two photographs...

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  62. new name... by deft · · Score: 2

    snatchster anyone?

    "napster bad!!!"
    (very bad, in a naughty kind of way, apparently)

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  63. Thats because it wasn't actualy peer to peer. by autopr0n · · Score: 2

    All the searching was handled by centralized servers, not napster itself.

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    1. Re:Thats because it wasn't actualy peer to peer. by mark_lybarger · · Score: 2

      All the searching was handled by centralized servers, not napster itself.

      could you please explain this? to my understanding, napster the company and software product handled the searching (yes by centralized servers), but napster did handle the searching, thus the shutdown. most current implementors of the gnutella design (kazza, morpheous, gnucleus, bearshare, etc) do not handle the searches, rather, searches are handled by the many other users on the network.

  64. More like Jackster by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Am I right folks? ;)

  65. Lameness by autopr0n · · Score: 5, Interesting

    There are already a bunch of services claming to bhe the "napster of porn", supposedly trading passwords to porn sites. but in actually they're probably prearranged deals. Give out a 'psudopassword' and let people resubscribe for a higher rate.

    This would probably end up being the same kind of thing. I know this is a bit hypocritical to say, but the online porn world is full of some of the sleaziest people out there. I mean, how much spam is for porn sites? These people will use any deceptive marketing tactics they can to make money, or as they would say '$$'. I remember reading some supposed how-to guide for starting up a porn site, and it explained how to scam search engines. The acted like there was nothing wrong with doing that at all. And of course, these are the people who invented the popup window.

    The most discussing thing, though, is the way they'll put copy up on their sites that totally degrades women, you know, "This fucking bitch wants the cock so bad," etc. Its just, well as I said, discussing.

    I suppose I could theorize that the people who end up going into porn are already willing to throw off morality for profit, (but don't want the legal exposure of, say, being a drug kingpin)

    But anyway, if these guys succeed in buying napster, it'll be a sad day for napster. Not that napster was really that great, but these guys probably don't have any intention of even letting people trade files, but rather simply using the napster trademark some kind of supped-up pay site. (and yeah, the stuff won't be free.)

    One of the things I'd like to do, if autopr0n ever became a big thing, is try to create a place where people can find pornography without all the ridiculous bullshit, Spam, etc. I think porno can be profitable without being incredibly demeaning to the customers and the women who appear in it.

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    1. Re:Lameness by Rufus211 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      not to knock your site, I love it cuz it usually has the best links, but I've found that http://pichunter.com/ usually has a *lot* more links. True they're not quite as good, but the quantity balances out. Or just have the best of both worlds and check both =)

    2. Re:Lameness by dr00g911 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Not to knock you (or your site, which has an Asian slant *almost* surpassing my own ;)...

      I think you're missing the point.

      We've already established that pr0n is one of the few ways to make a dependable buck on the net. So I'm taking that as granted.

      (Bear with me...)

      We've already established that Napster's BRAND is capable of pulling in publicity absolutely freaking everywhere... much to the chagrin of those of us who prefered our l337 undergr0und lynx, well... underground.

      What is being purchased and marketed here is a brand. Plain and simple. It may be a way for a corp. to think that they're "legitimizing" the business by buying the brand name, but that's it.

      They're marketing to the same people who have 4 different versions of Gator, Morpheus and other ad/spy/scum/ware loaded because they don't know any better.

      Sheep, all of them. Controlled by the US media and news outlets... (which were both the windfall and downfall of P2P and the "real" Napster, if you guys remember your recent history...)

      These are the same people who use Win because "everyone does," and don't know how to do a bloody thing besides surf the Web and play solitare.

      It's also the largest market on the Web. In the US at least.

      Read up on your PT Barnum quotes.

      I think it's a brilliant marketing move, but a sad epitaph for a service that started out so promisingly, but made the mainstream far before its time.

      --dr00gy

    3. Re:Lameness by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Can we cut all this `demeaning to women' bullshit? if women find appearing in pron demeaning, they won't appear in it. Women are mostly skanky anyway. Yes, there may be non-skanky women 30yo, but probabilistically, one would still come out ahead by assuming all women are skanky'ish.

    4. Re:Lameness by dinivin · · Score: 1


      So where's all the gay porn on your site? :-)

      Dinivin

    5. Re:Lameness by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Jesus fucking christ. If you're going to try to make some kind of long winded post in which you try to act intelligent, the least you could do is learn how to SPELL.

      It's DISGUSTING not "DISCUSSING" you inbred donkey fucker.

    6. Re:Lameness by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      On behalf of geeks everywhere, I would like to thank you for your tireless service to your fellow men (or women, if they happen to swing that way). I like the fact that I can cruise your site without feeling like some sort of woman-hating pervert with an IQ of 80, and without being tricked into clicking on sheep pr0n or something. Can't say the same for some of the sites you link to, but whose fault is that?

      I doubt that the "new Napster" will generate a whole lot of interest. After all, everyone associates the brand name with mp3's, not pr0n. All this will do is make us all embarrassed to say that we ever used Napster. We'll always be saying "Napsterbackwhenitwasmusic."

      BTW, how can I meet that redhead with the apple? She seems nice.

    7. Re:Lameness by CoffeeJedi · · Score: 1

      apple girl is truly a goddess

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  66. Well, if thats true.... by autopr0n · · Score: 2

    I'll have to sue 'em. Sounds way to much like "Porno for the People" (p4p) :P

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  67. obvious.. by MoceanWorker · · Score: 1

    "Acquiring Napster is our way of entering the peer-to-peer marketplace for adult content in a closed environment," Prast said.

    Yeah.. it's called FreeNet

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  68. OT: Object Oriented Programming by autopr0n · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Call me a 'troll' a million times, but you *still* lack decent evidence OOP is objectively better

    Hrm, Is your sig sarcastic? I once had a sig that read "the vast majority of people who oppose the death penalty have never been victims of violent crime --- CNN". Now obviously, I was making fun of CNN's idiocy. But people started attacking me for having such a logicaly moronic statement in my sig, thinking I belived it.

    So I'm wondering, are you being sarcastic, or are you just a moron?

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    1. Re:OT: Object Oriented Programming by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So I'm wondering, are you being sarcastic, or are you just a moron?

      Are you implying that anybody who thinks OOP is overhyped or BS is a moron?

      If OOP is so great, where is the non-anecdotal evidence?

    2. Re:OT: Object Oriented Programming by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      After you educate yourself as to the weaknesses of the basic tenets of OOP (the linked article tears apart the Liskov Substitutability Principle) maybe you'll have a more intelligent viewpoint than just "anyone who doesn't like OOP must be a moron."

    3. Re:OT: Object Oriented Programming by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The URL you've linked to reads like some sort of anti-OOP political manifesto. Worse, it also reads like someone who has just recently found out each thing he writes about, and is eager to provide instant judgement to get attention. Like that infamously bad security guy.. what's his name.. the one who insisted raw socket APIs in Windows were a security hole..

    4. Re:OT: Object Oriented Programming by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      try http://geocities.com/tablizer/oopbad.htm

    5. Re:OT: Object Oriented Programming by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      After you educate yourself [uk7.net] as to the weaknesses of the basic tenets of OOP (the linked article tears apart the Liskov Substitutability Principle)

      Frankly, I don't like the way they use shape examples (circles, ellipses, etc.) in that link. I don't find shapes very representative if real-life programming and S.E. issues. Most candidates for "subtyping" in the real world are taxonomies or classifications created by humans, not nature, and thus subject to capriciousness not generally found in natural laws, such as geometry.

      Shapes are fine for introducing a general concept just out of familiarity, but using them to justify or bash something is carrying them too far, unless you are actually building a geometry system of some sort.

      Enough with shapes already.

  69. Only Profitable Internet Venture Left by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It seems like porn is the only profitable internet venture left. This search engine gives you free porn with your search: www.searchwithporn.com Watch out Google!

    1. Re:Only Profitable Internet Venture Left by Rhett · · Score: 1

      Heh, "finally combining the best two features of the Internet . . ." They need to link to mp3s too.

  70. Duh by autopr0n · · Score: 3, Informative

    So one guy/gal buys the "top quality" stuff and then trades it to the rest of the Pornster users for free. How, exactly, does one make money this way?

    Bit rate and file size limitations....

    Was it really that hard to figure out?

    They can also lock out specific files by hash code or something, so unless people downloaded and then reencoded their stuff, it wouldn't be an issue. Of course, people would do this, but that's what the bitrate/filesize limits are for.

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    1. Re:Duh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why wouldn't they just open a private channel on Kontiki?

      http://www.kontiki.com

      Maybe Kontiki doesn't want them to.

  71. I dunno. by autopr0n · · Score: 2

    There's actually no such thing as public domain porn

    what about this?

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    1. Re:I dunno. by Archon-X · · Score: 2, Insightful

      All images and text Copyright (c)1997-2002 The Erotic Print Society

      That was a great support :D

  72. Well, they are buying napster for the name by autopr0n · · Score: 2

    It's not like the technology is worth anything...

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    1. Re:Well, they are buying napster for the name by jred · · Score: 2

      Damn, man. I'm reading at +3, and you have 7 of 13 comments (right now). I mean, I get the porn Napster/autopr0n thing, but damn.

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  73. new caption for napster by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Get back at the RIAA ummmph...

  74. what are they buying by hpavc · · Score: 1

    seems like all they really are buying is little more than the domain name for napster. everything else is likely garbage to them with the infrastructure they already have.

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  75. Napster is like Natalie Portman by tangent3 · · Score: 1

    Every time it appears on Slashdot, it "dies a little bit more each time". Geez, are we all not sick and tired of reading about Napter dying every week?

  76. Stock ticker symbol by jesser · · Score: 2

    The Private Media Group's ticker symbol says it all: PRVT.

    (I stole this post from Fuckedcompany.)

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  77. porn.napster.com by roly · · Score: 0

    Will there now be porn.napster.com?

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  78. Full text of press release by jesser · · Score: 5, Informative
    I downloaded this in PDF format by following links from www.prvt.com. Italics as in original, bold mine.

    Private Media Group Announces Offer for Napster Trademark and napster.com URL

    Barcelona, September 12th, 2002/PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Private Media Group Inc. (Nasdaq: PRVT) a worldwide leader in premium quality adult entertainment products, services and content, today announced that it has made an offer to Napster, Inc. to acquire the Napster trademark and napster.com domain name for one million shares of Private common stock.

    Private's offer, if accepted by Napster, is subject to customary terms and conditions, including approval by the court having jurisdiction over Napster, Inc.'s bankruptcy proceeding.

    With the Napster trademark, Private plans to create a unique peer-to-peer (P2P) environment that would offer the tens of millions of adult consumers worldwide the opportunity to share adult content for free as well as access top quality adult content at a reasonable price.

    Napster is one of the most recognized names in P2P file-swapping services that allow users to trade and download files. At its height, Napster had 84 million users of its software and was the fastest-growing software application ever monitored by online tracking services.

    Charles Prast, President and CEO of Private Media Group stated: "Along with Hollywood and the recording industry, we have become increasingly concerned about the level of copyright infringement inherent in free peer-to-peer file swapping services. It is estimated that up to 35% of all content downloaded from P2P sites is of an adult nature, which raises significant issues both in terms of copyright infringement and lack of controls of access by minors. It is an industry that presently has over 150 million users.

    Mr. Prast continued: "At Private, we feel that there has been an excess of spamming, credit card fraud, abuse of consumer data, and price gouging among many on-line providers of adult content. We intend to use the strength of the Napster trademark to build a community for adults to share content provided by Private and our industry partners.

    "Private has high standards, both from a regulatory and financial perspective with a 37 year track record of legal compliance. Private owns the largest library of quality adult content in the world, global rights to all our content, and strong technological know-how. All of these factors make Private uniquely suited to manage a viable and legal P2P network for consumers of adult content", said Mr. Prast.

    Private Media Group is a leading global adult entertainment company that distributes its content over a wide range of media platforms, including narrow and broadband Internet, DVD and video, magazines, broadcasting and wireless technologies. Private owns the worldwide rights to the largest archive of high quality adult content in the world, which it distributes digitally worldwide and physically in over 35 countries.

    This release contains, in addition to historical information, forward-looking statements within the meaning of Section 27A of the Securities Act of 1933, as amended, and Section 21E of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, as amended, which reflect the Company's current judgments of those issues. However, because those statements are forward-looking and apply to future events, they are subject to such risks and uncertainties, which could lead to results materially different than anticipated by the Company.

    For further information about Private Media Group, please contact in Barcelona, Spain:

    PRIVATE MEDIA GROUP
    André F. Ribeiro
    Phone: +34 679 983 772
    E-mail: andre@private.com
    URL: www.prvt.com

    GRUPO ALBIÓN
    Alejandra Moore Mayorga
    Phone: +34 91 531 23 88
    Mobile: +34 670 799 33
    E-mail: amoore@grupoalbion.com

    Please visit our Download Zone, where you can find relevant information relating to this announcement in PDF format: http://www.tresddb.com/gadz/private.html.

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    1. Re:Full text of press release by octalgirl · · Score: 1

      create a unique peer-to-peer (P2P) environment that would offer the tens of millions of adult consumers worldwide the opportunity to share adult content

      I don't know if the porn already uses any P2P, but this thought is rather frightening to me. I can just imagine the amount of uncontrolled home videos popping up. Between consenting adults, whatever, but this could end up being an avenue for all kinds of kiddie-porn, rape, snuff, whatever. I'm sure those who want to do this, could find enough ways to hide out on the Internet and not be found. The site would probably be responsible and take stuff down as fast as they could, like eBay, but once its out, its out and very hard to get back. P2P for music is such a good thing. This just freaks me out.

    2. Re:Full text of press release by The+Beezer · · Score: 1
      From the press release: For further information about Private Media Group, please contact in Barcelona, Spain:

      I'm sorry; I've known far too many Spaniards.

  79. make that " 30yo" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    slashdot tag gayness.

  80. Fast porn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    For those occasions that you really need to download your porn across 5 peers at 250KB/s try Napster!

  81. This isn't new by SmlFreshwaterBuffalo · · Score: 1

    I thought of this back when Napster was still being widely used. I was going to call it Tapster (tm).

  82. Ad hominem by PurpleBob · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    There doesn't seem to be anything inherently wrong with the statement, except that it expresses an opinion you disagree with. Why don't you refute the statement instead of attacking the person?

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  83. Re:Who is Jesus? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This or this?

  84. Re:Bug in the mix-Hazarderous word juxtaposition. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You know you shouldn't be using the words, "grab", "members", and "porn" in the same sentence. Might give people the wrong idea.

  85. heh by autopr0n · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Heh, well I don't really want to spend my whole life, or even really that much time looking at random porn on the internet.

    One of the reasons that autopr0n doesn't have as many links as some of the other TGPs is that rather then just a simple 5-7 word description, we actually go a bit more in-depth usually. Also, mods need to mark down the properties the image falls under (like Asian, lesbian, etc) so people can search for stuff.

    It takes me like an hour or two to post just 32 links, which is what I try to go for when I'm on the ball.

    (btw, if you're wondering what I mean by "we", I'm talking about myself and the other volunteer moderators for the site. There are like 30 or something, but only about 7 or 8 really active ones.)

    Also, I do try to have a life. I'd like for AP to have a higher volume, though. If you'd like to help out you could sign up as a mod (just email me). And if you're just interested in links, you can look through the thousands that I have sitting in the queue :P

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  86. This makes me a sad panda by zakezuke · · Score: 1

    Ya know before napster, porn was the number 1 bandwith consumer at universities. Napster gave credibility to the internet, dispite the fact that the stuff traded was in complete violation of copyrights.

    about 3 years ago, you could ask someone about the internet, and they would say it's a good place to get porn. when napster came on the scene, it gave people, your average joe, a reason to get an account other then to get porn.

    Now the very service that actually permited access to media that isn't porn, is now going tits up and knickers down, well, I don't know about you, but this makes me a very sad panda.

    For some reason, in our socity of dual tape decks and cd-recorders, it's pretty much standard practice already to make duplicatios, mix tapes, all in plain site, how with Napster going porn, it's not more of an Entrance in rear deal.

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  87. Re:May prove Napster model-Hyper-"smut" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "If they are successfull, it will be harder to argue that Napster's only use is for pirating, and further increase evidence that content monopolies are primarily concerned about loss of control. "

    But easier to argue that Napster makes it too easy to deliver smut to people who shouldn't have it.

  88. Yes, people are stupid. Yes people can make money. by autopr0n · · Score: 2

    Well, yeah. People are stupid, and it's easy to take there money. That dosn't mean that you should or that it's some how a good idea to do it.

    The other problem is that it creates a situation where everyone tries to pander to the lowest common denominator. Just look at the sorry-ass state of 'portals' before google came along. Google just gave us what we wanted and no bullshit, and now they serve up 97% of the links out there. (google is kind of my inspiration for ap. I figure the 'net pr0n world is so full of crap that if I just provide a non-pandering, bullshit-light site most people would prefer it)

    But yeah, those other BS portals still make money, but they are still bullshit and they waste peoples time and they contribute nothing to the world at all.

    Will this new napster make money? yeah, probably. Porn always makes money :P. Will it contribute to the world? Will it actually let people find good pr0n quickly? I really doubt it. Instead they'll be mislead, by more 'controlled media' to buy crap from this company.

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  89. Wait, wait wait... by L053R · · Score: 1

    I don't understand how anything changed. So what exactly did other people use napster for before?
    Was there anything else on there?
    ;)

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  90. Not apearing in it by autopr0n · · Score: 2

    I'm talking about the text that accompanies the images. Stuff like "This bitch loves my cum" or "I got this chick drunk and played a trick!" or "See what this slut does for $20".

    Normally, I don't even see the text on porn sites, since I wrote a special browser that just downloads the linked pics :P. I do check the pages out occasionally, and it's pretty lame.

    Anyway, a skank is a woman who's dirty and will probably give you an STD. Just because a girl is promiscuous doesn't mean she's a skank (porn producers usually require STD checking before hiring people). You're thinking of 'slut', which I find to be a rather retarded title. Basically insulting women for doing what 90% of guys would do if they had the chance.

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    1. Re:Not apearing in it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >I'm talking about the text that accompanies the images.

      my point still stands -- if women don't like it, they don't have to appear in it. anyway, what's more demeaning, "this bitch loves my cum", or the actual act of getting threewayed, tell me.

      >Anyway, a skank is a woman who's dirty and will probably give you an STD.

      seeing as it's slang, i don't see what the deal is splitting hairs over semantics. do you fold your clothes before you put them in the basket? ;p (yes, i am a very bitter misogynist).

    2. Re:Not apearing in it by Saeger · · Score: 2, Interesting
      I used to work in the pr0n biz (I helped pioneer the then "state-of-the-art" multipart/mixed JPEG push "live streaming video", among other things I'm not particularly proud of), and I can tell you that those disgusting descriptions simply sell better. It's what most guys want to hear, and that fact is reflected in clickthrough ratios and in hardcore over softcore video sales, hypocrites notwithstanding.

      • Click here to fantasize about making sweet love to this classy redheaded independant woman!
      • CLICK HERE NOW to fill this horny slut with your hot manjuice!!! She wants it all!

      Sex != Love & Sex != Making Love.

      Some people want classy; most people want nasty.

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    3. Re:Not apearing in it by autopr0n · · Score: 2

      if women don't like it, they don't have to appear in it.

      If women don't like gettin' beat, they don't have to stay married to wife abusers. But they do, the world isn't really that simple. They also might not know how their images are going to be framed.

      anyway, what's more demeaning, "this bitch loves my cum", or the actual act of getting threewayed, tell me.

      Well, if I got fucked by two chicks, I wouldn't consider myself 'demeaned' at all, why should it be 'demeaning' for a woman to enjoy, and have intresting sex?

      it's not just skank. "skank" implies filth, not just sexual accessability.

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  91. Gibson by autopr0n · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    Like that infamously bad security guy.. what's his name.. the one who insisted raw socket APIs in Windows were a security hole..

    The Gibson research guy. Can't remember his first name. He's not related to william gibson though :)

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    1. Re:Gibson by Fweeky · · Score: 1

      Steve Gibson

      And what are you doing posting off-topic with a +1 bonus? ;)

  92. I didn't say that exactly. by autopr0n · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    I was calling him a moron, specifically, for complaining about objective evidence that it's better. How can one Turing complete language ever be objectively better then another one? I mean, I'm assuming he's asking for a rigorous mathematical proof of... something...

    Otherwise there's lots of statistical information that could lead us to the conclusion that OOP is better. Such as case studies, etc, that show OOP to be easier to code/maintain/etc.

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    1. Re:I didn't say that exactly. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How can one Turing complete language ever be objectively better then another one?

      Note that an "objective" metric does not necessarily mean "useful" metric. However, there are things like code size (number of lines or tokens), change impact counts (how many blocks and/or named-units had to be altered to handle a given set of change scenarios, etc.)

      I'm assuming he's asking for a rigorous mathematical proof of... something...

      Let's see the best evidence, rigorous or not.

      Such as case studies, etc, that show OOP to be easier to code/maintain/etc.

      There is no such thing beyond annecdotes. Ed Yourdon did some surveys that showed no measurable higher ranking of OOP projects.

      In the age of science, all we have are fan annecdotes. Yet OOP is being forced upon us all, sacrificing non-OO features and improvements in the process.

    2. Re:I didn't say that exactly. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Noone's forcing you to use OOP unless you're hired to work on an OO project, in which case it was your decision. It's not like all existing procedural languages suddenly ceased to exist, and it's not like you can't write procedural C code with a C++ compiler.

      I believe you are tablizer, because I've read through a table-oriented programming page with that nick in the URL, and it sounds more to me like you're embarking on a pointless holy war. If you don't like OO, don't use it. Other people do (myself sort-of included - I like subclassing more than any other aspect), and use it well. So what's the problem?

      I disagree with using Java in a majority of cases, because the only consideration it has is for programmers, not users. But just because I say so doesn't mean everyone has to stop using Java, and it doesn't mean noone else agrees with me.

    3. Re:I didn't say that exactly. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's not like all existing procedural languages suddenly ceased to exist

      Yes, but it is harder and harder to find API's, support, training materials, and research in them.

      IOW, choices *are* drying up. I just want balance. Let the resources be allocated based on merit, not hype and fads.

      and it sounds more to me like you're embarking on a pointless holy war

      That is my problem whether it is pointless. I will fight for truth, dammit!

      Leaving functions out of Java is a sign of "religion", if you ask me. "Functions are passe" sayeth the hellbent Java team.

      and use it well. So what's the problem?

      How about an example of why it is so great and why non-OO can't do it just as well. Show it, don't say it.

    4. Re:I didn't say that exactly. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, but it is harder and harder to find API's, support, training materials, and research in them.

      Well, I found YOUR page... or do you not consider your own work research? There are **PLENTY** of people still coding in C.

      I will fight for truth, dammit!

      Every technology gets wrapped in some hype. Most people see through the bullshit eventually, when the magical technology fails to save them billions.

      How about an example of why it is so great and why non-OO can't do it just as well. Show it, don't say it.

      Now this is why it looks like a holy war. I didn't suggest it couldn't be done in procedural languages, I merely suggested that some people use OOP to good effect (easy to understand and maintain programs). This doesn't discount the ability to write BAD programs in OOP, nor the ability to write good ones in a procedural language.

      BUT some people's minds work better through OOP, so it makes sense to let them use it. I don't think anyone considers OOP a magic bullet anymore, that was only the hype in the beginning. People are seeing the reality: that no matter the language, it can't make a bad programmer good.

      "Functions are passe" sayeth the hellbent Java team.

      I ABHOR java and all it's little lapdogs. I talk to university students who come out praising java like it was sliced bread, only to find it was the only language they were ever taught. The problem is, java makes things easy on the programmer (at least initially), so naturally all the programmers think "WOW, I gotta use THAT!". They don't stop to think about their users. Too much typing for me, and too little speed for anything real world (ghod, don't get me started on jEdit) that doesn't sit on a single server.
      [This is my own holy war... ;)]
      But java != OOP, java is just the most rabidly promoted (and overhyped) example of it.

    5. Re:I didn't say that exactly. by Tablizer · · Score: 2

      (* BUT some people's minds work better through OOP, so it makes sense to let them use it. *)

      Fine, paradigms are subjective. But why is the industry pounding the subjectivity of a few "celebrities" down everybody's throat?

      If Java was balanced for different minds, it would *at least* had real functions in addition to classes.

      (* The problem is, java makes things easy on the programmer (at least initially), *)

      I don't find anything approachable about Java, at least not the API's. You can't use many of them in isolation; you are dragged via a long chain into the internal mind of some fad-surfer at SUN who wants to lock you into their own world in an MS-like way. Sure, some IDE's simplify some of this for ya, but IDE's can improve just about any horror a bit.

      (* But java != OOP, java is just the most rabidly promoted (and overhyped) example of it. *)

      Yes, but I still see Java-like hype in other materials also. The hype and cliches flow like water, yet none of it is backed by cited real evidence. PHB's buy into it all and shove it down the throats of workerbees.

      A holy war is shoving it down our orafices, so it just may take a holy war to unshove it. I am an unshover.

      BTW, as far as Java being "true OO", an agree-able defition of OO is rather elusive. It starts wars on comp.object all the time. However, most heavy OO fans seem to prefer something besides Java (like C++ or Eiffle or Smalltalk or Scheme).

      (* Most people see through the bullshit eventually, when the magical technology fails to save them billions. *)

      My observation is that they toss the current toy for the next big thing, just like a toddler spotting a new shiney thing, making him/her drop current toy. IOW, it is the *next* fad that draws them away, not rationality.

      The industry makes more money when things change. If things don't change, then they sell less. Thus, there is pressure to overhype new things, and it trickles down to the trade-rags read by PHB's.

    6. Re:I didn't say that exactly. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ratz! I forgot to select "Anonymous"!

      grumble grumble

      Bye bye Karmie!

    7. Re:I didn't say that exactly. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh no! Modded down by hordes of angry java uni students! ;)

  93. Free porn? ever hear of USENET? by Sonicboom · · Score: 1

    if you've got a decent USENET newsfeed, and a nice bandwidth pipe, you can get a zillion times more porn off of the alt.binaries.* newsgroups than you can get off of any P2P app.

    *duh*

    It's funny how alot of non-techie people have no idea what USENET is, and find programs like Free Agent for windoz to be really confusing.

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    1. Re:Free porn? ever hear of USENET? by acceleriter · · Score: 1

      But my feed doesn't carry alt.binaries.hamsters.teen.amateur.duct.tape.

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    2. Re:Free porn? ever hear of USENET? by forkboy · · Score: 3, Insightful

      USENET is not a good forum for trading movies/video clips. Assembling a file from 100 parts, each part coming in 60 pieces is horrible. I don't care how automated they've made the USENET browsers file assembly, it still blows. If one little piece doesn't make it through, the entire file is useless. Give me Kazaalite for all my pr0n needs.

      Not to mention P2P is searchable and has multiple sources for a file. You take what your news server gives you on USENET. It's like the difference between watching HBO or going to the video store.

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  94. Aaargh... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Rule number one of the dot-com:

    Only give your little sister t-shirts from companies that are UNlikely to be brought out by porn companies.

    And now I have to explain this to my parents... shit.

  95. Pee2Pee by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    'cuz a lot more girls are doing it on film.

    Or, since its usually a lot of men sharing porn with other men.

    Penis2Penis

  96. Better Story Title by uberchicken · · Score: 1

    "Napster Reporn"

  97. Could be big by Zhe+Mappel · · Score: 2, Funny

    If this catches on, you could soon find porn all over the Internet.

    1. Re:Could be big by puckhead · · Score: 1

      Once that happens people can just change their music file extensions to .jpg and there is no way anyone will ever know that music is being traded!

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  98. PGAA ... it is by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Um, you forgot before they sue you they get one of those "cool" 4 letter acronyms, my best bet is PGAA.
    And PGAA will sue you for mingling unfree porn with free porn.

    Fuck, I wonderi f they are trying to sponsor DRM development for pictures.

  99. am i the only person... by Theolojin · · Score: 1

    who thinks the new company should be called napsty ?

    theolojin

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  100. Hrmm.... by athlon02 · · Score: 1

    So basically an immoral company wants to use a program, used mostly for illegal and unethical purposes (stealing music), to distribute its filth. Sadly, I'm not really surprised that such a thing would happen.

  101. yeah by stinky+wizzleteats · · Score: 2

    Oh yeah, great plan. Centralized download management, virtually no verification of the legality of the content. It would be easier just to drop all your computer equipment off at the local FBI office.

  102. freedom by racerx509 · · Score: 2, Funny

    porn wants to be free

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  103. The problem is... by cainem · · Score: 1

    ...it's gigabytes of the same pr0n.

  104. Will Help Kill the Free Internet. by twitter · · Score: 3, Funny
    Yooo-hooo, where are your morals people? What's all this BS about business models and market share? We're talking about porn. It's the next best thing to slavery that's still legal. We don't want to promote it as freedom or one of the good things free markets can do for you.

    No one wants to be a whore! It's vile exploitation and porn is it's ultimate extension. People pose for those pictures when they have run out of hope and self respect. Think about this hapening to your mother, sister or daughter.

    The internet was not designed for this. It was designed to share computing resources and information, not to sell crap. Those who look at this as a good thing smear all the other causes they are associated with.

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    1. Re:Will Help Kill the Free Internet. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, but we are talking about peer-to-peer porn. Basically, the new version of Napster will support webcam and a force feedback chair...

    2. Re:Will Help Kill the Free Internet. by ceejayoz · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Not all people do it because they've run out of hope. Some of the big pornstars are millionaires - they could stop anytime they wanted to. Some people like being pornstars.

    3. Re:Will Help Kill the Free Internet. by FurryFeet · · Score: 2

      I wish I had mod points. You really deserve a +5, Funny.
      Keep up the good work >:)

    4. Re:Will Help Kill the Free Internet. by welshsocialist · · Score: 1

      I agree that the 'net should be a place were information should be shared freely. But if that information is pr0n, is that ok?

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    5. Re:Will Help Kill the Free Internet. by weatherbee · · Score: 1
      Think about this hapening to your mother, sister or daughter.

      All at once, or separately?

    6. Re:Will Help Kill the Free Internet. by octalgirl · · Score: 1

      Some of the big pornstars are millionaires - they could stop anytime they wanted to.

      Pu-lease! Maybe their pimps have got some cash, but there are extremely few women who are able to retire off of it. (I can't think of any, but then I don't know of that many) And when they're forced to due to age, they start looking for desk jobs in the business (secretaries only get around 10 bucks an hour). Remember Lovelace? She barely had 50 bucks to her name to go with her 2 black eyes when she got out.

    7. Re:Will Help Kill the Free Internet. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      "Yooo-hooo, where are your morals people? What's all this BS about business models and market share? We're talking about porn. It's the next best thing to slavery that's still legal. We don't want to promote it as freedom or one of the good things free markets can do for you."
      How is posing for naked pictures like slavery? Are you claiming that a sizeable fraction of the pictures on the Internet are being taken agaist the model's will? In my mind, that seems very unlikely (although I'm pretty sure most of the "lesbian couples" I've seen are faking it). Or maybe you're claiming that they're only doing it because they couldn't make a living doing anything else. I doubt that as well.

      If you're simply claiming that many of them would leave the industry if they could make the same money doing something else, that's probably true. But c'mon, slavery?

      Yes, pornography can be about freedom. The first thing any oppressive belief system tries to control is how its adherents express their sexuality. I'm sure that there are some situations in the industry that I would find exploitative and repulsive if I heard about them. But for the most part, it appears that everyone is involved of their own free will.

      "No one wants to be a whore! It's vile exploitation and porn is it's ultimate extension. People pose for those pictures when they have run out of hope and self respect. Think about this hapening to your mother, sister or daughter."
      Okay, stop trying to make me think about my sister naked. Thanks.

      I remember what I did when I ran out of hope and self-respect. I took a telemarketing job. After that experience, I would have killed to earn the same salary for posing naked. But I'm not the kind of person anyone wants to see naked, so never mind.

      The problem with your assertions is, there's nothing inherently degrading about nudity or sexuality. That's all just social conditioning. If we weren't all imprinted with the idea that nudity was this powerful, forbidden thing, then the market for pornography would be magnitudes smaller. More important, such feelings of exploitation would evaporate.

      The internet was not designed for this. It was designed to share computing resources and information, not to sell crap. Those who look at this as a good thing smear all the other causes they are associated with.
      Wrong, wrong, wrong. Know you nothing of history? The Internet was designed explicitly so that, in the event of widespread disaster, there would be a fault-tolerant communication network for getting pornography and bomb schematics into the hands of children. Read the original ARPAnet Statement of Intent for further information.
    8. Re:Will Help Kill the Free Internet. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The problem with your assertions is, there's nothing inherently degrading about nudity or sexuality. That's all just social conditioning. If we weren't all imprinted with the idea that nudity was this powerful, forbidden thing, then the market for pornography would be magnitudes smaller. More important, such feelings of exploitation would evaporate.

      Nudity is wrong. God told me so. It is in the Bible. It's been proven clinically and in my mind.

    9. Re:Will Help Kill the Free Internet. by Max+the+Merciless · · Score: 2

      BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA! That's the funniest thing I've read all day.

      I thank you sir.

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    10. Re:Will Help Kill the Free Internet. by SquadBoy · · Score: 2

      In a couple of diffrent interviews I have heard both Jenna Jameson and Kobe Tai both state that they are now at a point where they have enough money that they only take jobs they want to do. Of course extremely few women are able to retire off of it. I mean for gawds sake very few people who "act" in mainstream movies are ever able to retire off of it. Now to compare it to slavery someone has to be forcing them into it or forcing them to continue to do it. Show me that person/system.

      Simple fact of the matter is these are women making money off of their looks. Yes they have a use by date and yes they are unable to work after that. Well they should have chosen a diffrent path. I will agree with you when you can prove to me that they are being forced to do this.

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  105. It depends on the licence by cainem · · Score: 1

    ...if they're GPL'ed, you can modify them as you wish, but you have to share them with RMS.

  106. Porn's always there first by DaveOMatic · · Score: 1

    I'm not surprised that porn companies are trying to take P2P and turn it into a viable business model. They've always been ahead of the curve, whether good or bad. They were some of the first businesses on the internet, they were some of the first spammers, they had the first popups, first streaming video, and I'd bet that they were distributing VHS tapes when Valenti was still babbling about the Boston Strangler.

  107. Napster by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Isnt that what alot of people used Napster for anyway, Porn?? So wheres the change?

  108. Problem: model is not 10x better than what exists. by Jester99 · · Score: 2

    We've all heard the adage on /. that a standard won't be adopted unless it's an order of magnitude improvement over the existing system.

    Ever since the original Napster crashed and burned in mid-2000, several other P2P filesharing systems came up. Among college students (a fairly heavy market for porn), KaZaA is definitely the drug of choice.

    Systems like KaZaA already have porn on them. *I* am certainly not one to download two programs to do what one already does well.

    Napster fought the good fight, but now it's gone. It's lost all its mind-share.

    R.I.P., Napster...

  109. Power 2 'the' People = P2P by cykes · · Score: 1

    I'm all for it. I like the ideolgy behind the idea. Plus who can resist free porn? Music didn't turn me on so hopefully this does.

  110. They're using their own content, so... by utexaspunk · · Score: 1

    it sounds to me like perhaps this is just a way for them to serve more people and reduce their server load by shoving the load off onto their users... hmm...

  111. The Life of Napster by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Born to a single father near the height of the dot-com industry, Napster soon attracted the interest of lonely men in basements. Despite the scorn of the general populace, these hermits cited her developing features and general robustness.

    As she came of age, Napster roused the interest of the general population. Businessmen, college students, they all passed her around.

    But she found herself embroiled. Her rich uncles were upset. They knew she was being used and formed a collective to stop her. Her users said that the relationship was love. But the law said she wasn't legal. Her lovers said she was ready. The law didn't care.

    After a lengthy dispute, Napster found itself in the care of Uncle Bert(elsmann). After a year away from the spotlight, Napster was reintroduced to the public. But it was clear that surgery had marred her. Her once attractive body had been crippled. She was simply reduced to a nagging and impractical vegetable.

    It has been nearly two years since Napster occupied the headlines. Desperate for attention, she has turned her efforts to pornography.

    They always turn to porn.

  112. Yessss by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As an atheist i must say

    THANK YOU JEEEE ZUUUHHSSSS
    I got the joy joy joy joy down in my heart
    down in my heart .......

    -troy

  113. Napsterbater by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    New name has to be Napsterbater

  114. Typo by dJOEK · · Score: 1

    Shouldn't that be pr0n instead of porn ?

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  115. open source? by BeneathTheVeil · · Score: 1

    That's fine... as long as it's not open sores.

  116. Pornster at Lapdance 2000 by spun · · Score: 2

    I was at the Lapdance 2000 party put on at the Sundance festival by CRAPTV, the producers of such great movies as "Cannibal, the Musical," and "Orgasmo."

    Matt Stone and Trey Parker had invited my friend Mark Pesce (the inventor of VRML) to host a panel discussion entitled "What is this whole Internet thing, anyway?"

    To illustrate the huge force that peer-to-peer networks would become within the media industry, Mark jokingly announced the IPO of his new company, Pornster (I came up with the logo, the P in Pornster was a penis with a cockring through it ;-) He used the idea of peer-to-peer porn sharing to illustrate the huge threat/opportunity the industry was about to face.

    This was at Sundance, mind you, where every third person is someone big in the entertainment industry. Amazing how clueless most of these media folks were, even in 2000. The presentation really made folks look at their roles as 'gatekeepers of entertainment.'

    What place have the gatekeepers, when all the walls are gone?

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  117. Or, rather,.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ....wouldn't this be Open Thigh software?

  118. If Slashdot were a pr0n site... by di0s · · Score: 1

    I can see it now:

    Slashdot
    News for Nymphos, Stiffies that matter.