Geeks and Linux users constantly do. It's like with those gamers who say that graphics doesn't matter. They just cant comprehend that good graphics/UI and good gameplay/functionality can work together.
It still acts like it's from the 90's because people don't work together to bring it together. It's still based on text output because everyone does things differently.
A shell is supposed to provide direct access, text-only, to the OS and it's core programs for easy scripting and administration
Compare this to PowerShell which passes objects between programs. This allows different pieces of programs to work much better together, without need to define rules on how to parse some other programs output (which also usually fails in less used cases).
No idea what powershell is, so can't comment
So basically you don't know what you're commenting on? There is nothing that prevents PowerShell being used in text mode. It is. But it doesn't only output as text, it passes objects. This means that if you pipe commands the other programs down the line get them as object, not as text that they need to parse and which can easily change. It works much better together.
As much as geeks don't like to admit it, design and user interfaces matter. It matters to them too. Just look at the backlash new Gnome UI and Firefox have got recently. Even more so, casual people care a lot about design and easy of use. So do people when they get older and don't have the time to tinker with everything.
It's also why Linux will always fail - the whole principle of Linux is that there's no unified look and team that discusses, chooses and implements good UI and terms. In Linux world everyone just does whatever they want, often ignoring what or how others do it.
Good example of this is the linux shell. It still acts like it's from the 90's because people don't work together to bring it together. It's still based on text output because everyone does things differently. Compare this to PowerShell which passes objects between programs. This allows different pieces of programs to work much better together, without need to define rules on how to parse some other programs output (which also usually fails in less used cases).
Both Apple and Microsoft have got this. I hate to admit it but Windows 7 is the most beautiful Windows to date from Microsoft. So is Apple's OSX. If it wasn't for the games and some Windows only -apps I would use OSX because it is just much nicer to use. But there is no way in hell I would use Linux now. That might had been the case in 2005, but why would I do that? On top of polished interface and good design, OSX offers all the underlying tools that also make Linux powerful. And on Windows world there's PowerShell, which is much more powerful than GNU toolset has to offer.
Sorry, but apart from server world Linux just isn't going anywhere. No one really cares about the open part. They care about what they can do, and how easily they can do that. By far, Windows and OSX both offer those things and much better than Linux.
Less than 40days to the final COTS demo flight for Dragon. Let's hope the February 7, 2012 launch and docking to ISS goes smoothly!
It looks like it's the Russians, Chinese and Indians owning space now. U.S. government cannot even get into space without commercial companies anymore.
Linux was always servers first, work stations next, desktops last. Apple is the other way around. It's not fair to compare the two.
Uh, no. Linux was even created because Linus wanted a free UNIX like desktop. Since the beginning Linux users have touted how this will be the year of Linux on desktop. It has nothing to do with "servers first, desktops last", because Linux users very much have wanted Linux to be number #1 on desktop.
Or, good god, maybe I'm not shilling for anyone but can see different companies doing different things better than others and just state my honest opinions about them?
Because Apple has always finetuned UI and user experience. Linux has always been about command line and geeky stuff first. However, it's not what users want to use. They don't want to mess with command line settings and tools.
It's surprising that Apple was trying stylus-based touch screens back in 1983. The phone seems to be in line with the whole Apple philosophy - thinking about functions and what user wants to do before technical details. This, in my opinion, is why Apple has always been so successful. Unlike Linux, Apple thinks about user first, and then technical details.
For example, the touch screen in this phone could had provide many useful functions compared to other phones. It's good for taking quick notes (keyboard wouldn't be), and it acts as a great phonebook. The fact that you could use it for taking notes, or viewing older notes, during phone call highlights the way Apple thinks. Always think about what user wants to do.
If I needed to do business and have a phone on my desktop, this is the kind of phone I would want! They could even make it a bit more modern by adding similar voice recognition like Siri is on iPhone. Then the device could act as your virtual secretary, handling your calendar, contacts and to do lists. In addition, make it do voice recognition during voice calls and provide transcripts for those. This also means you could search thru the conversation, and have a chat log of them. Need to look up the specific details your client said to you? No problem, just tell Siri to find them and it provides nice list of everything that was said, complete with audio and transcript. Then you don't even need to take notes so much.
This is the reason why I think Apple has been so successful with OSX, iPhone and iPad. They think about user first. They think what user wants to do. Then they fine tune all the details so that it is pleasant experience. UI and good design goes along with this. It's also what Linux is lacking.
Secondly, and more importantly, there's a growing issue apart from the first one. This has to do with special situation within human culture. You see, from the very beginning ducks have ruled the world. Yes, ducks. Yellow sitting ducks like you have in your bath tub. Microsoft, Apple, Google... all really started and owned by ducks. Steve Jobs was hired to work as a supposed CEO of Apple because the ducks thought humans would not be ready for a duck-run company. So while Steve Jobs spoke words like "amazing", "incredible" and "outstanding" to the human public, all the corporate orders came from the ducks. This is one of the basic misunderstands people have about tech world.
Overally, Apple has always got people. They do the technical parts good, but they especially finetune user experience and UI. Most other tech companies don't think about this. Open source products almost never think about this. It's why Apple is so successful.
Bah, you westerners with your stupid one new year. I will celebrate western new year tomorrow, then in January I'll be in China when it's Chinese new year, and finally in April I will be in Thailand when it's Thai new year. Yay, three new year parties for me!
(and the Songkran will have country-wide free-for-all water fight, with insane amount of hot girls and ladyboys in wet t-shirts. Woohoo!)
Manipulative? I'm just being what girls want. They rarely want some guy who wants them badly. To them that shows the guy can't get any other girls. But when you somewhat ignore her, it drives her crazy and she thinks there's something special in you. It's part of the game.
If they change on January 1, then December 30 would already been passed at that point. So, that would mean it's already Dec 30 there right now and it cannot be Jan 1 yet according to any time zone. The math is fail.
Actually, in my home country it is offensive. But I also live much of my year in Asia and it doesn't have that meaning there. There are many other things that are considered rude that Americans wouldn't even know about. Like touching someones head or pointing something with leg.
Oh and I forgot, if you're any good you don't even need to ask. You just lead the girl to ask. At this point the good players might tease the girl for asking such, and take it to next level already by saying "sure, if you promise x". X can be "be nice to me", "be fun date", whatever light.
And now:
1) Girl has asked you if she can come over
2) You have increased your own worth by not being so easy guy and not intimated by her (important)
3) Passed the ball on her to make the night fun, taking off pressure from you. It is now up to her to show you that she's a worthy girl, and not up to you to show to her that you're just another loser.
It depends on the girl. Some of them are cautious enough (with reason) that you can't bring them to your place for the first date or two.
It does not depend on the girl, it depends on how you ask it. If you do it in a creepy way, sure, it probably isn't a good idea.
This is what most geeks just don't get it. It doesn't matter what you ask. It matters how you ask it. You can ask anything you want if you just do it correctly. Hell, you can ask things that would make you really creepy if asked differently, but because of the way you presented them the girls actually think you're confident and funny guy and a real catch.
And they're only there because Google has been pushing it so hard. However, once they get in and see how useless it is, most people just forget about it and never use it. The active users on Google+ is probably 0.1% of who have registered there.
But the dominate majority is american, so it doesn't matter. My company is global, we sold to 3 people in South Africa last year. Doesn't mean we design products for South Africans, since those 3 South African sales were worth the effort.
No, it really isn't. You're just being incredibly ignorant.
Do you have some data to back this up? Because I have many friends in countries where it isn't offensive gesture but at the same time others are (which again aren't offensive to U.S. people and westerners).
The thing is, if you don't know anyone from other countries you might feel like they don't exist on Facebook. Language is different, culture is different, what they like is mostly different. You don't get to see them if you don't friend with them or their friends. Hell, even their names can be written in non-latin characters.
But sure, if you have some actual data provided by Facebook to back this up, please enlighten us!
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If you just would leave rest of the alone and not steal resources belonging to other countries then maybe, MAYBE everyone wouldn't hate U.S. so much?
PowerShell supports text output too. But between apps it passes things in objects.
Geeks and Linux users constantly do. It's like with those gamers who say that graphics doesn't matter. They just cant comprehend that good graphics/UI and good gameplay/functionality can work together.
A shell is supposed to provide direct access, text-only, to the OS and it's core programs for easy scripting and administration
No idea what powershell is, so can't comment
So basically you don't know what you're commenting on? There is nothing that prevents PowerShell being used in text mode. It is. But it doesn't only output as text, it passes objects. This means that if you pipe commands the other programs down the line get them as object, not as text that they need to parse and which can easily change. It works much better together.
And why would you think Russians are any less capable of building space vehicles than Americans?
As much as geeks don't like to admit it, design and user interfaces matter. It matters to them too. Just look at the backlash new Gnome UI and Firefox have got recently. Even more so, casual people care a lot about design and easy of use. So do people when they get older and don't have the time to tinker with everything.
It's also why Linux will always fail - the whole principle of Linux is that there's no unified look and team that discusses, chooses and implements good UI and terms. In Linux world everyone just does whatever they want, often ignoring what or how others do it.
Good example of this is the linux shell. It still acts like it's from the 90's because people don't work together to bring it together. It's still based on text output because everyone does things differently. Compare this to PowerShell which passes objects between programs. This allows different pieces of programs to work much better together, without need to define rules on how to parse some other programs output (which also usually fails in less used cases).
Both Apple and Microsoft have got this. I hate to admit it but Windows 7 is the most beautiful Windows to date from Microsoft. So is Apple's OSX. If it wasn't for the games and some Windows only -apps I would use OSX because it is just much nicer to use. But there is no way in hell I would use Linux now. That might had been the case in 2005, but why would I do that? On top of polished interface and good design, OSX offers all the underlying tools that also make Linux powerful. And on Windows world there's PowerShell, which is much more powerful than GNU toolset has to offer.
Sorry, but apart from server world Linux just isn't going anywhere. No one really cares about the open part. They care about what they can do, and how easily they can do that. By far, Windows and OSX both offer those things and much better than Linux.
So good day Sir Ive!
Yes. I could be a billionaire too, but I choose not to.
Less than 40days to the final COTS demo flight for Dragon. Let's hope the February 7, 2012 launch and docking to ISS goes smoothly!
It looks like it's the Russians, Chinese and Indians owning space now. U.S. government cannot even get into space without commercial companies anymore.
Linux was always servers first, work stations next, desktops last. Apple is the other way around. It's not fair to compare the two.
Uh, no. Linux was even created because Linus wanted a free UNIX like desktop. Since the beginning Linux users have touted how this will be the year of Linux on desktop. It has nothing to do with "servers first, desktops last", because Linux users very much have wanted Linux to be number #1 on desktop.
Or, good god, maybe I'm not shilling for anyone but can see different companies doing different things better than others and just state my honest opinions about them?
Because Apple has always finetuned UI and user experience. Linux has always been about command line and geeky stuff first. However, it's not what users want to use. They don't want to mess with command line settings and tools.
It's surprising that Apple was trying stylus-based touch screens back in 1983. The phone seems to be in line with the whole Apple philosophy - thinking about functions and what user wants to do before technical details. This, in my opinion, is why Apple has always been so successful. Unlike Linux, Apple thinks about user first, and then technical details.
For example, the touch screen in this phone could had provide many useful functions compared to other phones. It's good for taking quick notes (keyboard wouldn't be), and it acts as a great phonebook. The fact that you could use it for taking notes, or viewing older notes, during phone call highlights the way Apple thinks. Always think about what user wants to do.
If I needed to do business and have a phone on my desktop, this is the kind of phone I would want! They could even make it a bit more modern by adding similar voice recognition like Siri is on iPhone. Then the device could act as your virtual secretary, handling your calendar, contacts and to do lists. In addition, make it do voice recognition during voice calls and provide transcripts for those. This also means you could search thru the conversation, and have a chat log of them. Need to look up the specific details your client said to you? No problem, just tell Siri to find them and it provides nice list of everything that was said, complete with audio and transcript. Then you don't even need to take notes so much.
This is the reason why I think Apple has been so successful with OSX, iPhone and iPad. They think about user first. They think what user wants to do. Then they fine tune all the details so that it is pleasant experience. UI and good design goes along with this. It's also what Linux is lacking.
Secondly, and more importantly, there's a growing issue apart from the first one. This has to do with special situation within human culture. You see, from the very beginning ducks have ruled the world. Yes, ducks. Yellow sitting ducks like you have in your bath tub. Microsoft, Apple, Google... all really started and owned by ducks. Steve Jobs was hired to work as a supposed CEO of Apple because the ducks thought humans would not be ready for a duck-run company. So while Steve Jobs spoke words like "amazing", "incredible" and "outstanding" to the human public, all the corporate orders came from the ducks. This is one of the basic misunderstands people have about tech world.
Overally, Apple has always got people. They do the technical parts good, but they especially finetune user experience and UI. Most other tech companies don't think about this. Open source products almost never think about this. It's why Apple is so successful.
If you go to north pole and keep running around the pole in same direction, crossing timezones, you can go infinitely back or forward in time!
Bah, you westerners with your stupid one new year. I will celebrate western new year tomorrow, then in January I'll be in China when it's Chinese new year, and finally in April I will be in Thailand when it's Thai new year. Yay, three new year parties for me!
(and the Songkran will have country-wide free-for-all water fight, with insane amount of hot girls and ladyboys in wet t-shirts. Woohoo!)
But how does Thailand handle unixtime? It's already year 2555 there. That's way past 32-bit int.
Manipulative? I'm just being what girls want. They rarely want some guy who wants them badly. To them that shows the guy can't get any other girls. But when you somewhat ignore her, it drives her crazy and she thinks there's something special in you. It's part of the game.
If they change on January 1, then December 30 would already been passed at that point. So, that would mean it's already Dec 30 there right now and it cannot be Jan 1 yet according to any time zone. The math is fail.
Actually, in my home country it is offensive. But I also live much of my year in Asia and it doesn't have that meaning there. There are many other things that are considered rude that Americans wouldn't even know about. Like touching someones head or pointing something with leg.
Oh and I forgot, if you're any good you don't even need to ask. You just lead the girl to ask. At this point the good players might tease the girl for asking such, and take it to next level already by saying "sure, if you promise x". X can be "be nice to me", "be fun date", whatever light.
And now:
1) Girl has asked you if she can come over
2) You have increased your own worth by not being so easy guy and not intimated by her (important)
3) Passed the ball on her to make the night fun, taking off pressure from you. It is now up to her to show you that she's a worthy girl, and not up to you to show to her that you're just another loser.
It depends on the girl. Some of them are cautious enough (with reason) that you can't bring them to your place for the first date or two.
It does not depend on the girl, it depends on how you ask it. If you do it in a creepy way, sure, it probably isn't a good idea.
This is what most geeks just don't get it. It doesn't matter what you ask. It matters how you ask it. You can ask anything you want if you just do it correctly. Hell, you can ask things that would make you really creepy if asked differently, but because of the way you presented them the girls actually think you're confident and funny guy and a real catch.
Where did I say anything about Supreme Court? I just asked if you support banning gays too because you have some irrational problem with them?
And they're only there because Google has been pushing it so hard. However, once they get in and see how useless it is, most people just forget about it and never use it. The active users on Google+ is probably 0.1% of who have registered there.
No, you just have immature twats as your friends. Both fb friends, and real life friends.
facebook is global.
But the dominate majority is american, so it doesn't matter. My company is global, we sold to 3 people in South Africa last year. Doesn't mean we design products for South Africans, since those 3 South African sales were worth the effort.
No, it really isn't. You're just being incredibly ignorant.
Do you have some data to back this up? Because I have many friends in countries where it isn't offensive gesture but at the same time others are (which again aren't offensive to U.S. people and westerners).
The thing is, if you don't know anyone from other countries you might feel like they don't exist on Facebook. Language is different, culture is different, what they like is mostly different. You don't get to see them if you don't friend with them or their friends. Hell, even their names can be written in non-latin characters.
But sure, if you have some actual data provided by Facebook to back this up, please enlighten us!