"Environmentalists say the chamber's strategy is an attempt to sow political discord by challenging settled science â" and note that in the famed 1925 Scopes trial"
Arrogance, hubris, contempt. I am appalled at what passes for science these days (or maybe that should be 'science journalism')
I bet you heard the same reasoning used to defend this theory:
At what point will everyone realize how silly all these imaginary mathematical constructs are?
Gravity waves do not exist, strings do not exist, dark matter/energy does not exist, redshift does not = distance, black holes do not exist and the sun is EXTERNALLY powered.
... let's see if you're interested in lecturing me or having a discussion
>>"First, redshifting is not about distance, it's about how fast things are moving away from you" it would take me too long to reply to that statement
>>"Second, light waves don't stretch out as they age, so age isn't really at issue here either" not what I meant
>>(your) "if and only if" (meme) I think I have a firm grasp on causative associations of the standard model; I stand by that statement
>>" Don't worry, it's a common mistake among people who haven't actually studied reasoning, logic, mathematics, or computer science " I'm pretty used to this type of brow-beating. Question: Does that imply (that) because I am a programmer and Carl Popper is one of the people I most admire that I'm am idiot? (it's ok, I won't be offended if that's where you were going)
So the question remains - are you really interested in discussing this? I'll do it here, in email, on the phone, or in person.
>> "but when a prediction made by the theory fails to pan out, it needs to be explained"
yea, you'd think; maybe they'll make up something else that has the EXACT properties to fit their equations.
I think 'frozen' magnetic fields are my favorite so far, but the 'dark' brothers are pretty loony too.
There's this guy who won a Nobel (~1970 or so), his last name is Arp, he's got some ideas (well, he did whe he was alive) that don't involve 'dark'|'frozen' anythings and (wait for it) are predictive! (hint: a good place to start would be how redshift is defined)
I agree copyright is broken - getting longer instead of shorter, subverting fair use, protecting old buisiness models from K St. (that's where the lobbyist live kids) and patents are severly abused (show me the source, maybe?) but give me a break.
and I resent being lumped in with those religious [people].. I'm a liberal/libertarian (maybe vis-versa, I dunno) who happens to think that those systems can and will be fixed (sooner or later)
I read everything I can get my hands on concerning 'global warming' and I'm convinced - absolutely, positively, 100%, convinced that nobody should be (even close to) convinced that anthropogenic global warming is real.
Too many people - not enough people, big chill - it's gonna be an oven, not enough oil - plenty of oil, on and on and on....
Remember, all scientist get funding from someone they have to 'agree' with, not just the ones (someone) happens to disagree with - that knife cuts both ways.
If it is your conclusion that my previous post reflects how _I_ will treat my future employees you are mistaken. But they will know that's how I feel about it, when it's all said and done, as is said, before they work one (wonderful:-) minute for me.
I wonder how one screens applicants to avoid hiring people like Steve here in the first place? One day I will have my own business and there's no way I want some judge telling me I have to provide soft toilet paper to my employees because I'm a pain in the ass.
My response to the original post is I'd bet unless you have a contract (... I'm skipping a lot here...) he could pay you 1/2 your salary starting tomorrow (at which point you should probably quit) and demand you have a cell phone he can call 24/7. That's the way I understand the laws here in Tennessee; I grew-up elsewhere and it seems to me it was different there, so it probably varies by state - but they're all moving that way. Remember, a job is not a right.
(back to Steve)... and if you unionized on me I'd fold the business and start over - parasite
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>>Caution is appropriate here
No, it's really not needed at all.
The precautionary principle is awful, no matter how eloquent its proponents are.
>There's still hope, isn't there? That we can at least get this stuff labeled properly?
It already is - and your tinfoil is showing.
>"This is how science works: based on past observations, you construct a theory of how things should work."
I don't think you've been paying attention to what 'they' have actually been doing lately.
The correct version of that assertion would be followed by:
And when it does not fit, adjust the math, invent something undetectable, and hope nobody connects the dots
same thing
:-)
That was my first thought too
It's a baby!
I wonder if [big round celestial bodies] have a 'sex'? Probably, though I have no idea how to tell. .. I'm not being sarcastic folks, it's new, really.
heh
I've got some homework for you:
Look up irrational.
"Environmentalists say the chamber's strategy is an attempt to sow political discord by challenging settled science â" and note that in the famed 1925 Scopes trial"
Arrogance, hubris, contempt. I am appalled at what passes for science these days (or maybe that should be 'science journalism')
I bet you heard the same reasoning used to defend this theory:
http://www.nationalcenter.org/Time-Ice-Age-06-24-1974-Sm.jpg
Al Gore isn't a scientist
At what point will everyone realize how silly all these imaginary mathematical constructs are?
Gravity waves do not exist, strings do not exist, dark matter/energy does not exist, redshift does not = distance, black holes do not exist and the sun is EXTERNALLY powered.
Eddington was wrong.
... let's see if you're interested in lecturing me or having a discussion
>>"First, redshifting is not about distance, it's about how fast things are moving away from you"
it would take me too long to reply to that statement
>>"Second, light waves don't stretch out as they age, so age isn't really at issue here either"
not what I meant
>>(your) "if and only if" (meme)
I think I have a firm grasp on causative associations of the standard model; I stand by that statement
>>" Don't worry, it's a common mistake among people who haven't actually studied reasoning, logic, mathematics, or computer science "
I'm pretty used to this type of brow-beating. Question: Does that imply (that) because I am a programmer and Carl Popper is one of the people I most admire that I'm am idiot? (it's ok, I won't be offended if that's where you were going)
So the question remains - are you really interested in discussing this? I'll do it here, in email, on the phone, or in person.
email is (farooge) over (at) (Yahoo)
>> "-- but it's certainly exploding now, and seems to have been for at least 12 billion years. "
...
IF, and only if, you accept (redshift = distance)
IF (redshift = age) then, well
If you're really interested ... look into the research of H. Arp
... ) predictive.
The universe may just start to make more sense (it does for me) - when the science becomes (wait for it
>> "but when a prediction made by the theory fails to pan out, it needs to be explained"
yea, you'd think; maybe they'll make up something else that has the EXACT properties to fit their equations.
I think 'frozen' magnetic fields are my favorite so far, but the 'dark' brothers are pretty loony too.
There's this guy who won a Nobel (~1970 or so), his last name is Arp, he's got some ideas (well, he did whe he was alive) that don't involve 'dark'|'frozen' anythings and (wait for it) are predictive! (hint: a good place to start would be how redshift is defined)
I assume Prof. Popper would approve.
give up on copyright - heh, patents too, eh?
.. I'm a liberal/libertarian (maybe vis-versa, I dunno) who happens to think that those systems can and will be fixed (sooner or later)
I agree copyright is broken - getting longer instead of shorter, subverting fair use, protecting old buisiness models from K St. (that's where the lobbyist live kids) and patents are severly abused (show me the source, maybe?) but give me a break.
and I resent being lumped in with those religious [people]
headphone to rca adapter cable ($10)
record your line in - you can use EAC, it's free, to seperate the songs
problem solved (most of you have more than one box anyway)
I really don't think this is a cynical statement:
Know where K St. is? The labels do and as long as it exists they have no reason to innovate
I read everything I can get my hands on concerning 'global warming' and I'm convinced - absolutely, positively, 100%, convinced that nobody should be (even close to) convinced that anthropogenic global warming is real.
....
Too many people - not enough people, big chill - it's gonna be an oven, not enough oil - plenty of oil, on and on and on
Remember, all scientist get funding from someone they have to 'agree' with, not just the ones (someone) happens to disagree with - that knife cuts both ways.
If it is your conclusion that my previous post reflects how _I_ will treat my future employees you are mistaken. But they will know that's how I feel about it, when it's all said and done, as is said, before they work one (wonderful :-) minute for me.
I wonder how one screens applicants to avoid hiring people like Steve here in the first place? One day I will have my own business and there's no way I want some judge telling me I have to provide soft toilet paper to my employees because I'm a pain in the ass.
... I'm skipping a lot here ...) he could pay you 1/2 your salary starting tomorrow (at which point you should probably quit) and demand you have a cell phone he can call 24/7. That's the way I understand the laws here in Tennessee; I grew-up elsewhere and it seems to me it was different there, so it probably varies by state - but they're all moving that way. Remember, a job is not a right.
... and if you unionized on me I'd fold the business and start over - parasite
My response to the original post is I'd bet unless you have a contract (
(back to Steve)
nay, kids go away! :-)
I commend them on that policy every chance I get
hehehehe
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Blaming US
get a clue