Hello?...Boss, what? Our customers got BSOD?! Oh GREAT! No...sorry....I mean, it's not a bug.......wait a minute, my ear hurt....ya know...Any number of problems, from severity 5 to severity 1 all trigger BSOD......you don't understand?....well, I mean it's probably caused by something else, not ours!!
Programmers' Paradise....I love Winodws....
Sorry Jerf, just kidding. You are probably right. ^_^
If it happened on my desktop while I'm doing nothing just staring at the monitor aimlessly, it probably falls into Severity 4 or lower....
But if it happened here, then personnel safety would be jeopardized, definitely Severity 1.
Say, a BSOD just killed your project, your boss will probably kill you tomorrow, your personal safety is in danger - Severity 1. In the meanwhile, buddies in Microsoft believe a BSOD can be solved by magic reboot, clean and clear - Severity 5 or lower, thus carrying the same bugs over and over again in every version of the Windows.
At any rate, the severity of a problem cannot be determined by the "bug" itself, it's also determined by where the situation applied. I think that may be the reason why people have not come with a standard on bugs' severity.
you gotta admit, that's not a compelling argument to the average user, who can barely remember their Hotmail password and has never even used Windows Update, who clicks on every damn thing you present to them.
Average user?....you mean my girlfriend? She doesn't need to remember any stinking password because it's me who check mails for her. Whenever the browser asks "Open at the current position/Save it" she will click the former without hesitation....of course, that includes open files like 'BO.EXE', 'ILOVEYOU.TXT.VBS', '1337!.EXE', etc.
I'm also responsible for all the dead links and bad design of any websites she came across. Needless to say, I'm ordered to 'fix' them.
under different brand name, Microsoft proudly present Clustering on a Budget - and the meaning of the term on a Budget in Microsoft's dictionary($28,000 for two clustering PC).
javax.servlet and java.rmi ARE in fact merely libraries (packages in Java-speak). The only thing that makes them "integrated" are their inclusion in rt.jar.
Ever heard of terms like rmic, rmiregistry, EJB-containers? Are they a java libraries?
EJB is simply an umbrella term for RMI, JDBC, JavaBeans and JNDI with some convenience classes/interfaces.
Should I comment on your pure imagination on EJB? Nah, RTFM yourself!!
As a senior developer in a Java shop, one of the things I often ask interviewees is what they would miss most if forced to use C++ instead of Java. Anyone who answers anything other than 'the libraries' gets a big black mark next to their name in my book.
It's you who deserves a big black mark on your face. Java beans achieves the concept of reusability, as they can be created and redistributed like blackboxes - it's especially important to commercial and enterprise usage. Take a look at some java factories like Flashlines, they sell individual java beans which can be used on any platforms and any development environment. EJB, Servlet, and RMI etc. are hardly merely 'libraries', they are integrated parts of Java, and you just can't ignore their importance. A Java app developed on personal java 1.1 can run on any mobile devices compliant with this jvm, without recompilation.
I really doubt someone with such an insight and knowledge in Java could be a senior developer in a Java shop...or you are simply a troll?
I worked on Maple many years ago, and it's more like a programming language to me than a symbolic representation of mathematics. Why bother doing the same thing over again with less completeness?
To be honest, Maple is like hell to me(probably I don't like programming mathematics), but I just don't want to see people create another hell.
Such a magnificent building will not be placed in the capital of China, Beijing, why? It's political issues.
About 5 Years ago a billionaire in Hong Kong attempted to build a biggest(not tallest) multi-purpose building in the world. It was called 'Eastern Oriental Plaza' something(direct translation from Chinese). It occupied large area in one single piece.
However, the government 'leaders' didn't like to have a biggest building which signified 'capitalism'. At least it shouldn't be bigger than 'Tin Tan', a historical palace in Beijing.
They had to break the whole structure apart into 13 different seperated buildings. Never ever anyone dare to speak of building something like that.
who weren't even alive in the 80's, when they were considered more evil and monopolistic than Microsoft is today.
Who mod this troll up?
You sounds as if you know IBM pretty well, but hell no. I'm a former employee of IBM and I've been dumped by IBM like shit during 90's so I've no intention to speak well of them, but what you said is not even close to the truth.
IBM had invested a lot on computer technologies and funded many research organizations during 80's. They also submitted many research results to standard bodies. Yes, they patented most of them, but many standards are widely used nowaday. If you couldn't name even one of those you probably skipped lectures.
They contribute a little bit of code, mention Linux on their website, and all of a sudden they're the good guys?
IBM always funds researches.
The technologically competitions in 80's were so healthy. IBM's monopolization on mainframe during that time was not due to its marketing strategy, but their superior in technologies. They did not deliberately crush those competing with them, otherwise HP, DEC, Wang's would have little chance to share the mainframe market.
How could you compare Microsoft now with IBM in 80's? I don't remember IBM blindfolded their customers with close source products(all mainframes' OS are sold with source, at least at that time), or 'embrace and extend'(steal and modify) technologies, or penalized their distributers for selling other brands, or charges US$230 per question(on the bugs in win2k) at telephone support(3 questions minimal).
IBM fell in 90's due to the brilliant minds of those management who closed a lot of research projects because they wanted to 'focus on marketing strategy'. Well done. They seem to wake up now, and walk the right path again
The free Disney R&D implementation of Smalltalk, Squeak addresses these issues, in some cases profoundly better than does Java.
Aye, I'm a Java programmer, but I rather agree with what you said....
But wait....I still love Java. Thanks to the hype, Java has rich set of API; PDA has java, mobile has java, database has java.....we could choose what we like to do, and not be bound by the scope of its API.
"write-once, run anywhere" claim is marketing hype at its best.
The hype might come from nowhere, but it isn't going to nowhere. Java might not live up with its claim, but Java programmers are "learn-once, jobs everywhere".
It's nothing! Compare with our NT server which has been placed in the open corridor for 4 years. It crashes so often that no remote users know its existance.
This plane was doing reconnaissance. It was not disguised in any way, it was not attempting to evade detection.
Yes! You brought it up with reason! Unlike many others who choose to confront rather than compromise.
We need to convey the rational message to China, rather than strong opposition and denial. The whole instance is a mixing of misunderstanding and mistakes which could be solved by reasoning. However, both parties stand confirm on conceptual believes, which make the situation worse.
See how bad I got flamed for not standing on US' side. What I want to say is, this case can be solved, we all know what's happned. Please just don't fuel up the negative comments, like using the word 'spyplane'(Time), nation of enemy(NY), 'We SPY, SO?!! Gimme back my crew or WAR'(/. ers).
Let's not argue over international airspace, isn't it clear that the plane is a spy plane? That's what makes China so upset.
Both parties want to settle the case, but it turns out arguing over a word apologize.
The press, media and us, shouldn't have fueled the debate over faces. China wants no more spy, US wants crew, is that so hard to compromise? Should we help them(those idiots in both government) making things so complicated?
So many people are expecting this thing to come out. Take Hong Kong Government as an example:
Hong Kong Government is rolling out a service called Electronic Service Delivery ESD to provide public services such as submission of civil applications online. Later they will digitalize the personal identity card so that citizens records are stored digitally and can be accessed by ESD for fully automated public services.
It sounds great, except that the level of security is pretty low. They are using Microsoft-IIS/4.0(try telnet www.esdlife.com 80, type 'GET HEAD / HTTP 1.1' then two ENTER you'll see). A related site had been hacked twice in 24 hours in May last year. Regardlessly, they rush the services to the public and throw the security and piracy behind their head.
From this story we can see big organizations will only rush what they want to do and security/piracy will be their least concern. If someone like Microsoft would help them do the job they are more than happy to take it, regardless of all the security/piracy issues.
256MB of SDRAM costs $75, this is a server, so I guess you should spend the $90 for ecc, but get over it. Don't spend hours trying to optimize things to save less than $100.
It's very unlikely you could add anything you want to a corporate server which runs $100,000+ worth of data, even at your own expense. You need to justify everything you do to corperate assess. Running enterprise system isn't like running home LAN, unless of course you are the big boss of the company, so big that you report to no one.
In many case when you want to upgrade your Linux/BSD servers when new hardware arrives, priority is given to Windows NT/2K, simply because Windows suck at anything less. It's so annoying - Don't ask me why should we use NT/2K - I'm not the big boss.
You must be a student or haven't been worked for any commercial sector yet. When you graduate and get a real job you'll understand how ridiculous comerical world is.
I'm currently running Windows 2000 Server...it runs Apache, an FTPdaemon, and ActivePerl, and has had an uptime of almost 3 months.
I really sick of hearing people like you boasting the uptime of their servers running simple applications. Of course, it doesn't apply to MS fans only, I know many people boast their high Linux/BSD server uptime while the most complicated apps they are running is Gnome.
Win2k is running like snail with 64MB Ram - even with no third party apps running! I admin a LAN with heterogenous environment and I'm pissed when I'm forced to give the top of the line hardware to Windows servers for non-critical system while giving lesser hardware to critical Linux/BSD servers
Windows servers, NT or 2k, used up a lot of resources which could be used in other critical part otherwise. Some time I don't even know what resources taking up loading - the task manager just show everything below 1% while the system runing like snail? I don't think it's very convincing.
Try run a SQL server with web acess, tell me if it could still stay up to 3 months. For your information, the Oracle database running on my Debian server which actually process real business transactions over internet has been up for 5 months, but I still don't think that's something need to boast of.
You can't get it to work doesn't mean Debian can't
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Just add the following to your sources.list
deb ftp://ftp.tux.org/pub/java/debian woody non-free
Or
deb ftp://metalab.unc.edu/pub/linux/devel/lang/java/bl ackdown.org/debian woody non-free
Some said DM Java is not open source. Well it's true that it's just freeware. If you are looking for an open source multiplayers game, you may take a look at Worldforge.
The WorldForge Project is still young, but shows promise. Like many open source projects it does not yet rival commercial titles, but it offers enticing flexibility to players -- and the opportunity to contribute creatively to the game world.
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BSOD is not a bug
COOL!
Hello?...Boss, what? Our customers got BSOD?! Oh GREAT! No...sorry....I mean, it's not a bug.......wait a minute, my ear hurt....ya know...Any number of problems, from severity 5 to severity 1 all trigger BSOD......you don't understand?....well, I mean it's probably caused by something else, not ours!!
Programmers' Paradise....I love Winodws....
Sorry Jerf, just kidding. You are probably right. ^_^
Any other questions?...
What Severity is BSOD?
Wait...don't mod me troll so fast.....
If it happened on my desktop while I'm doing nothing just staring at the monitor aimlessly, it probably falls into Severity 4 or lower....
But if it happened here, then personnel safety would be jeopardized, definitely Severity 1.
Say, a BSOD just killed your project, your boss will probably kill you tomorrow, your personal safety is in danger - Severity 1. In the meanwhile, buddies in Microsoft believe a BSOD can be solved by magic reboot, clean and clear - Severity 5 or lower, thus carrying the same bugs over and over again in every version of the Windows.
At any rate, the severity of a problem cannot be determined by the "bug" itself, it's also determined by where the situation applied. I think that may be the reason why people have not come with a standard on bugs' severity.
The latest kernel still can't pass the Purity Test. You can see by running:
egrep -r -e "(\bfuck\b|\bass\b|\bshit\b)" /usr/src/linux
In fact, I found an increase in degree of profanity in the new release:
egrep -r -e "(\bfuck\b|\bass\b|\bshit\b)" /usr/src/linux-2.2.18 | wc -l ---> 48
egrep -r -e "(\bfuck\b|\bass\b|\bshit\b)" /usr/src/linux | wc -l ---> 52
That's too bad, my boss wouldn't like it.
Oh my! I can browse alt.sex.stories and the like with google, in my office!
It'd not be too long before my company discovers this and banned surfing google altogether.....
I think Group Google is biased, when I search windows rox linux sux it returns Linux ROX Windows SUX
hmm...kinda fishy....
you gotta admit, that's not a compelling argument to the average user, who can barely remember their Hotmail password and has never even used Windows Update, who clicks on every damn thing you present to them.
Average user?....you mean my girlfriend? She doesn't need to remember any stinking password because it's me who check mails for her. Whenever the browser asks "Open at the current position/Save it" she will click the former without hesitation....of course, that includes open files like 'BO.EXE', 'ILOVEYOU.TXT.VBS', '1337!.EXE', etc.
I'm also responsible for all the dead links and bad design of any websites she came across. Needless to say, I'm ordered to 'fix' them.
under different brand name, Microsoft proudly present Clustering on a Budget - and the meaning of the term on a Budget in Microsoft's dictionary($28,000 for two clustering PC).
javax.servlet and java.rmi ARE in fact merely libraries (packages in Java-speak). The only thing that makes them "integrated" are their inclusion in rt.jar.
Ever heard of terms like rmic, rmiregistry, EJB-containers? Are they a java libraries?
EJB is simply an umbrella term for RMI, JDBC, JavaBeans and JNDI with some convenience classes/interfaces.
Should I comment on your pure imagination on EJB? Nah, RTFM yourself!!
Damn, fell into another troll's trap again....
As a senior developer in a Java shop, one of the things I often ask interviewees is what they would miss most if forced to use C++ instead of Java. Anyone who answers anything other than 'the libraries' gets a big black mark next to their name in my book.
It's you who deserves a big black mark on your face. Java beans achieves the concept of reusability, as they can be created and redistributed like blackboxes - it's especially important to commercial and enterprise usage. Take a look at some java factories like Flashlines, they sell individual java beans which can be used on any platforms and any development environment. EJB, Servlet, and RMI etc. are hardly merely 'libraries', they are integrated parts of Java, and you just can't ignore their importance. A Java app developed on personal java 1.1 can run on any mobile devices compliant with this jvm, without recompilation.
I really doubt someone with such an insight and knowledge in Java could be a senior developer in a Java shop...or you are simply a troll?
I see a lot of overlapping work with Symbolic Computation Group's Maple.
I worked on Maple many years ago, and it's more like a programming language to me than a symbolic representation of mathematics. Why bother doing the same thing over again with less completeness?
To be honest, Maple is like hell to me(probably I don't like programming mathematics), but I just don't want to see people create another hell.
Such a magnificent building will not be placed in the capital of China, Beijing, why? It's political issues.
About 5 Years ago a billionaire in Hong Kong attempted to build a biggest(not tallest) multi-purpose building in the world. It was called 'Eastern Oriental Plaza' something(direct translation from Chinese). It occupied large area in one single piece.
However, the government 'leaders' didn't like to have a biggest building which signified 'capitalism'. At least it shouldn't be bigger than 'Tin Tan', a historical palace in Beijing.
They had to break the whole structure apart into 13 different seperated buildings. Never ever anyone dare to speak of building something like that.
who weren't even alive in the 80's, when they were considered more evil and monopolistic than Microsoft is today.
Who mod this troll up?
You sounds as if you know IBM pretty well, but hell no. I'm a former employee of IBM and I've been dumped by IBM like shit during 90's so I've no intention to speak well of them, but what you said is not even close to the truth.
IBM had invested a lot on computer technologies and funded many research organizations during 80's. They also submitted many research results to standard bodies. Yes, they patented most of them, but many standards are widely used nowaday. If you couldn't name even one of those you probably skipped lectures.
They contribute a little bit of code, mention Linux on their website, and all of a sudden they're the good guys?
IBM always funds researches.
The technologically competitions in 80's were so healthy. IBM's monopolization on mainframe during that time was not due to its marketing strategy, but their superior in technologies. They did not deliberately crush those competing with them, otherwise HP, DEC, Wang's would have little chance to share the mainframe market.
How could you compare Microsoft now with IBM in 80's? I don't remember IBM blindfolded their customers with close source products(all mainframes' OS are sold with source, at least at that time), or 'embrace and extend'(steal and modify) technologies, or penalized their distributers for selling other brands, or charges US$230 per question(on the bugs in win2k) at telephone support(3 questions minimal).
IBM fell in 90's due to the brilliant minds of those management who closed a lot of research projects because they wanted to 'focus on marketing strategy'. Well done. They seem to wake up now, and walk the right path again
Wooo, I'd love to have a piece of wall with penguin head on it, together with my vast collection of Berlin Wall pieces.
IBM, please come graffting our town!
The free Disney R&D implementation of Smalltalk, Squeak addresses these issues, in some cases profoundly better than does Java.
Aye, I'm a Java programmer, but I rather agree with what you said....
But wait....I still love Java. Thanks to the hype, Java has rich set of API; PDA has java, mobile has java, database has java.....we could choose what we like to do, and not be bound by the scope of its API.
"write-once, run anywhere" claim is marketing hype at its best.
The hype might come from nowhere, but it isn't going to nowhere. Java might not live up with its claim, but Java programmers are "learn-once, jobs everywhere".
I wonder if they've put apt-get in this new release, anyone can tell me?
In case you were wondering how to use apt-get in Redhat, please check here
/. is banned in my office because it has too many hyperlinks to http://goatse.cx/ *shrug*
It's nothing! Compare with our NT server which has been placed in the open corridor for 4 years. It crashes so often that no remote users know its existance.
This plane was doing reconnaissance. It was not disguised in any way, it was not attempting to evade detection.
Yes! You brought it up with reason! Unlike many others who choose to confront rather than compromise.
We need to convey the rational message to China, rather than strong opposition and denial. The whole instance is a mixing of misunderstanding and mistakes which could be solved by reasoning. However, both parties stand confirm on conceptual believes, which make the situation worse.
See how bad I got flamed for not standing on US' side. What I want to say is, this case can be solved, we all know what's happned. Please just don't fuel up the negative comments, like using the word 'spyplane'(Time), nation of enemy(NY), 'We SPY, SO?!! Gimme back my crew or WAR'(/. ers).
You got caught using a camcorder taping someone else inside their house and your rationale is that you are outside and walking real slow.
Enemy? Hostage? Do you have to use wrong words to the situation to fueling up the emotion?
So you think War is fun? War is not like watching movie. Ask your God tonight if he likes war.
I'm really sick of people like you thought of themselves as heros by encouraging warfare, while let their own people bleed and die of war.
Let's not argue over international airspace, isn't it clear that the plane is a spy plane? That's what makes China so upset.
Both parties want to settle the case, but it turns out arguing over a word apologize.
The press, media and us, shouldn't have fueled the debate over faces. China wants no more spy, US wants crew, is that so hard to compromise? Should we help them(those idiots in both government) making things so complicated?
So many people are expecting this thing to come out. Take Hong Kong Government as an example:
Hong Kong Government is rolling out a service called Electronic Service Delivery ESD to provide public services such as submission of civil applications online. Later they will digitalize the personal identity card so that citizens records are stored digitally and can be accessed by ESD for fully automated public services.
It sounds great, except that the level of security is pretty low. They are using Microsoft-IIS/4.0(try telnet www.esdlife.com 80, type 'GET HEAD / HTTP 1.1' then two ENTER you'll see). A related site had been hacked twice in 24 hours in May last year. Regardlessly, they rush the services to the public and throw the security and piracy behind their head.
From this story we can see big organizations will only rush what they want to do and security/piracy will be their least concern. If someone like Microsoft would help them do the job they are more than happy to take it, regardless of all the security/piracy issues.
256MB of SDRAM costs $75, this is a server, so I guess you should spend the $90 for ecc, but get over it. Don't spend hours trying to optimize things to save less than $100.
It's very unlikely you could add anything you want to a corporate server which runs $100,000+ worth of data, even at your own expense. You need to justify everything you do to corperate assess. Running enterprise system isn't like running home LAN, unless of course you are the big boss of the company, so big that you report to no one.
In many case when you want to upgrade your Linux/BSD servers when new hardware arrives, priority is given to Windows NT/2K, simply because Windows suck at anything less. It's so annoying - Don't ask me why should we use NT/2K - I'm not the big boss.
You must be a student or haven't been worked for any commercial sector yet. When you graduate and get a real job you'll understand how ridiculous comerical world is.
I'm currently running Windows 2000 Server...it runs Apache, an FTPdaemon, and ActivePerl, and has had an uptime of almost 3 months.
I really sick of hearing people like you boasting the uptime of their servers running simple applications. Of course, it doesn't apply to MS fans only, I know many people boast their high Linux/BSD server uptime while the most complicated apps they are running is Gnome.
Win2k is running like snail with 64MB Ram - even with no third party apps running! I admin a LAN with heterogenous environment and I'm pissed when I'm forced to give the top of the line hardware to Windows servers for non-critical system while giving lesser hardware to critical Linux/BSD servers
Windows servers, NT or 2k, used up a lot of resources which could be used in other critical part otherwise. Some time I don't even know what resources taking up loading - the task manager just show everything below 1% while the system runing like snail? I don't think it's very convincing.
Try run a SQL server with web acess, tell me if it could still stay up to 3 months. For your information, the Oracle database running on my Debian server which actually process real business transactions over internet has been up for 5 months, but I still don't think that's something need to boast of.
Just add the following to your sources.list
deb ftp://ftp.tux.org/pub/java/debian woody non-free
Or
deb ftp://metalab.unc.edu/pub/linux/devel/lang/java/bl ackdown.org/debian woody non-free
Then apt-get update && apt-get install j2sdk1.3
Some said DM Java is not open source. Well it's true that it's just freeware. If you are looking for an open source multiplayers game, you may take a look at Worldforge.
The WorldForge Project is still young, but shows promise. Like many open source projects it does not yet rival commercial titles, but it offers enticing flexibility to players -- and the opportunity to contribute creatively to the game world.