Comcast doesn't particularly like VPN either because often their limiting factor is the upstream connection slots rather than the actual bandwidth, so 20 VPN hurts them as much as one bittorrent with 20 peers. Even when they upgrade to DOCSIS 3.0 and have 160/120, upload slots on the local-loop with still be the limiting factor. I expect if BitTorrent went away tomorrow, VPN would be on the hit list right after skype/vonage/IM
No the use Comcast Commercial rather than Residential!
I'm not sure what most banks actually use, I'm sure that the local 500 member Credit Unions doesn't get an OC-3 laid into their broom Closet I mean Data Center. Remember SQLslammer, it took out a lot of ATM machines by clogging the internet with jibberish, I think a lot of "banking security" is smoke and mirrors with a good dose of VPN for good measure.
there is also a UDP Tracker Protocol for BitTorrent, UDP doesn't even hear the RST packet. Comcast will have to figure out a way to turn off something that doesn't have an off switch.
My install of the SP1 RC Refesh has gone wrong the RC means Release Candidate, and that means that its the final steps of the beta testing and they are cleaning up the last few "glitches" with a larger population, but the magic eight ball says "prospects not good".
I'm not sure about the first item, I always figured that he just pandered to the neocon Republicans because it made money for him, he's first and for most an entertainer so he's going to play to his demo.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't some MUAs still use the mbox which is a flat single file format which would make restoring a single deleted email a bit difficult
Maybe that's why Rush said "... You love Al Gore -- and by the way, I've got no problem with him now,... "! I remember when Jerry Pournelle was doing the "Computing at Chaos Manner" in Byte and he's call some VP at Microsoft to get a problem resolved; after a while he figured out that by going to the normal help-desk he got faster results because there wasn't some VP playing middleman and slowing the process down.
bah in my day we had to jack up the rear tire and hook a belt over it to run the generator, and hand crank the engine to get enough electricity to even think about booting our computers!
The biggest problem that the cableco's like Comcast have is that the present DOCSIS protocol heavily favors a World Wide Web model where the provider transits a small number of short requests for the user and a large amount of downloaded content. It works OK for the smaller peer to peer stuff like Instant Messaging and some games with chat, but when you go to a full montey interactive model the cableco gets hammered by the upload traffic. The biggest pisser is the cableco's realize that the p2p apps, music and video are the hot stuff on the internet and getting them is aggressively marketed, while the network does everything they can get a way with to block them.
If it were a backbone bandwidth they could traffic shape at the boarder, and I could get lightening fast connections to other comcast user's but slower connections to non-comcast user's and nobody would even know because they would get good throughput, but the problem is in the "last mile". My son used to install cable tv systems, pole to pole not pole to house and he put a wavemeter on my cable connection, we're getting massive amounts of high frequency roll-off because they are pushing nearly 900MHz of signal through a 500 MHz coax; they'd probably go bankrupt upgrading everybody from RG56 cable to the high frequency RG6 like Belden 1694A, so instead they're going digital because it'll get by and buy them time.
And I just send a copy of the letter out every other day until I get a letter back stating you got the original letter, that's how they manage traffic.
I think the better analogy is sports orientated and would be, "imagine a football game where someone in the stands blows a referees whistle and stops the play every time something happens on the field they don't like and nobody can even figure out what the clown with a whistle doesn't like."
Yes my choices are comcast, AT&T DSL or Dial-up. When Dail-up was the only choice, my line would only connect at a max of 33 Kbs and 28.3 was the norm so DSL probably wouldn't work very well over those lines.
With the huge increase in bandwidth usage, bandwidth cost is now the largest factor in providing ISP service It doesn't really work that way, the cost of provide a given amount of bandwidth is fixed for the most part. Comcast is an exception, I think they purchase bandwidth from a backbone provider so the may occasionally be some peaking charges for them for going over, but for the most part if they buy 1TBs of backbone bandwidth they pay whether we use it or not. Frequently these guy engage in peering agreements amongst themselves which can be thought of as a shortcut around the backbone, where they argree to carry the others packets in return for the same. This was how things were done in the old pre-internet days with UUPC, my company might have a "leased line" between my organizations in Detroit and Memphis, yours might have a line between Memphis and St. Louis; so for me to send an Email to somebody in St. Louis I'd send it from the computer in Detroit to Memphis which would dial-up yours in Memphis and local rates rather than long-distance and then forward it to St. Louis, and the Email needed to have the complete route in the address! Tier 1 providers don't pay at all, they can route to the whole world through their own network or through peering.
There is also an abiogenic oil theory that states the oil and gas are not a fossil fuel, but generated by purely geological forces without an input of plant of animal material.
I would not have a problem with real traffic shaping, but that's not what they are doing. If they were really just shaping traffic then there would be "prime-times" when the traffic is adjusted down so www and pop travel easier, then at might things would open up so the cron and scheduled tasks could download updates and running BitTorrent full-bore would be over-looked. Instead if you open a BitTorrent client your throttled, period, the whole IP is throttled. If you run encrypted BitTorrent they send resets to any connection open too long, that means if your playing an online game your going to get random freezes and your IM program is going to get kicked off because they are sending out RST packets shotgun style.
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Comcast doesn't particularly like VPN either because often their limiting factor is the upstream connection slots rather than the actual bandwidth, so 20 VPN hurts them as much as one bittorrent with 20 peers. Even when they upgrade to DOCSIS 3.0 and have 160/120, upload slots on the local-loop with still be the limiting factor. I expect if BitTorrent went away tomorrow, VPN would be on the hit list right after skype/vonage/IM
No the use Comcast Commercial rather than Residential!
I'm not sure what most banks actually use, I'm sure that the local 500 member Credit Unions doesn't get an OC-3 laid into their broom Closet I mean Data Center. Remember SQLslammer, it took out a lot of ATM machines by clogging the internet with jibberish, I think a lot of "banking security" is smoke and mirrors with a good dose of VPN for good measure.
You just have to program it into the application rather than just letting the programming in the TCP do it for you.
there is also a UDP Tracker Protocol for BitTorrent, UDP doesn't even hear the RST packet. Comcast will have to figure out a way to turn off something that doesn't have an off switch.
that's what the cableco's really want, they can easily oversubscribe the system when all you can do is browse the web and Email.
My install of the SP1 RC Refesh has gone wrong
the RC means Release Candidate, and that means that its the final steps of the beta testing and they are cleaning up the last few "glitches" with a larger population, but the magic eight ball says "prospects not good".
Your assuming that Limbaugh is a conservative.
Anarchist! how in the hell is the FBI going to install a keylogger remotely if you use Fedora?
I'm not sure about the first item, I always figured that he just pandered to the neocon Republicans because it made money for him, he's first and for most an entertainer so he's going to play to his demo.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't some MUAs still use the mbox which is a flat single file format which would make restoring a single deleted email a bit difficult
Maybe that's why Rush said "... You love Al Gore -- and by the way, I've got no problem with him now,... "! I remember when Jerry Pournelle was doing the "Computing at Chaos Manner" in Byte and he's call some VP at Microsoft to get a problem resolved; after a while he figured out that by going to the normal help-desk he got faster results because there wasn't some VP playing middleman and slowing the process down.
that' off topic because this is a Mac threat and Ford's Sync runs on pukey windoses
bah in my day we had to jack up the rear tire and hook a belt over it to run the generator, and hand crank the engine to get enough electricity to even think about booting our computers!
The biggest problem that the cableco's like Comcast have is that the present DOCSIS protocol heavily favors a World Wide Web model where the provider transits a small number of short requests for the user and a large amount of downloaded content. It works OK for the smaller peer to peer stuff like Instant Messaging and some games with chat, but when you go to a full montey interactive model the cableco gets hammered by the upload traffic. The biggest pisser is the cableco's realize that the p2p apps, music and video are the hot stuff on the internet and getting them is aggressively marketed, while the network does everything they can get a way with to block them.
If it were a backbone bandwidth they could traffic shape at the boarder, and I could get lightening fast connections to other comcast user's but slower connections to non-comcast user's and nobody would even know because they would get good throughput, but the problem is in the "last mile". My son used to install cable tv systems, pole to pole not pole to house and he put a wavemeter on my cable connection, we're getting massive amounts of high frequency roll-off because they are pushing nearly 900MHz of signal through a 500 MHz coax; they'd probably go bankrupt upgrading everybody from RG56 cable to the high frequency RG6 like Belden 1694A, so instead they're going digital because it'll get by and buy them time.
And I just send a copy of the letter out every other day until I get a letter back stating you got the original letter, that's how they manage traffic.
I think the better analogy is sports orientated and would be, "imagine a football game where someone in the stands blows a referees whistle and stops the play every time something happens on the field they don't like and nobody can even figure out what the clown with a whistle doesn't like."
well then just type "Sisyphus" into wikipedia and botta-boom-botta-bing you get an article about Sisyphus!
I don't think you understood what I said
Yes my choices are comcast, AT&T DSL or Dial-up. When Dail-up was the only choice, my line would only connect at a max of 33 Kbs and 28.3 was the norm so DSL probably wouldn't work very well over those lines.
With the huge increase in bandwidth usage, bandwidth cost is now the largest factor in providing ISP service
It doesn't really work that way, the cost of provide a given amount of bandwidth is fixed for the most part. Comcast is an exception, I think they purchase bandwidth from a backbone provider so the may occasionally be some peaking charges for them for going over, but for the most part if they buy 1TBs of backbone bandwidth they pay whether we use it or not. Frequently these guy engage in peering agreements amongst themselves which can be thought of as a shortcut around the backbone, where they argree to carry the others packets in return for the same. This was how things were done in the old pre-internet days with UUPC, my company might have a "leased line" between my organizations in Detroit and Memphis, yours might have a line between Memphis and St. Louis; so for me to send an Email to somebody in St. Louis I'd send it from the computer in Detroit to Memphis which would dial-up yours in Memphis and local rates rather than long-distance and then forward it to St. Louis, and the Email needed to have the complete route in the address! Tier 1 providers don't pay at all, they can route to the whole world through their own network or through peering.
except those friendlier solutions are also more versatile, so they can't torpedo competing services by using a shotgun throttling technique.
you forgot the "if your lucky enough to find an unused port" part.
There is also an abiogenic oil theory that states the oil and gas are not a fossil fuel, but generated by purely geological forces without an input of plant of animal material.
I would not have a problem with real traffic shaping, but that's not what they are doing. If they were really just shaping traffic then there would be "prime-times" when the traffic is adjusted down so www and pop travel easier, then at might things would open up so the cron and scheduled tasks could download updates and running BitTorrent full-bore would be over-looked. Instead if you open a BitTorrent client your throttled, period, the whole IP is throttled. If you run encrypted BitTorrent they send resets to any connection open too long, that means if your playing an online game your going to get random freezes and your IM program is going to get kicked off because they are sending out RST packets shotgun style.
In the Military your paid for a 24 Hr day so there really isn't any YOUR time.