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Vista SP1 Update Locks Out Some Users
Echostorm writes with word that Windows Vista SP1, which began rolling out via Automatic Update, has left some users' machines unbootable. The update loops forever on "Configuring updates: Stage 3 of 3 — 0% complete. Do not turn off your computer." "Shutting down"... restart and loop. Echostorm notes having found traces of what sounds like the same bug in early beta releases of SP1. It's unclear how many users are affected. So far there is no word on a fix from Microsoft.
They actually DO beta test their software, right??????????
I know that they're said to have copied the concept of a GUI from apple (who, yes, stole it from PARC) but I didn't think Microsoft would follow the iBrick update also.
In Xanadu did Kubla Khan
A stately pleasure dome decree
About 10 minutes before this popped up, I got my first client call with this symptom.
Ahhh, Microsoft. Thank you for all the work you throw my way!
The only thing I can confirm so far is yep, Safe Mode don't work.
Linux, you magnificent bastard, I read the fucking manual!
So in other words, it IS an improvement!
"Ask not what your country can do for you." --John F. Kennedy
Q: Vista SP1 gets locks up the machines after update.
A: [x] Fiction (wins a T-Shirt)
[ ] Fact (truth but no T-Shirt to you bad boy.)
sed -e 's/Chuck Norris/Rajnikant/g' joke > fact
Incorrect. If you paid attention, it was rolled out via the automatic update.
This is clearly a botch by Microsoft, not something "illegally downloaded".
In Xanadu did Kubla Khan
A stately pleasure dome decree
They're lucky! When it finishes booting, it kicks your dog and sends kiddie porn to all the contacts in your address book!
If I don't do anything it restarts into Ubuntu. Gotta love GRUB.
this time, it's with "One Infinite Loop"
bah! -1 retard for me. I didn't RTFA before I posted. I didn't see the part that it was rolling out via Automatic Update.
I suck.
I'm sick of following my dreams. I'm just going to ask where they're goin' and hook up with 'em later.
They already are by the sounds of it :-)
Eventually the loop will stop, and the installation will complete. But only if you BELIEVE!
SJW: Someone who has run out of real oppression, and has to fake it.
I had no issues about the SP1 except the 3 reboots required...
Seriously, sounds like a version issue. An SCM (Software Configuration Management). Seriously, I worked for smaller companies that were serious about versioning and regression testing. Is it my imagination or does MS seem more and more like a software organization that is out of control?
putting the 'B' in LGBTQ+
You can't download SP1 yet from Microsoft, in fact its not due out for weeks...
Everyone that disagrees with me is a paid shill
give control to an auto-updating system blindly. Never trust someone else to have an update that will work with your system. Otherwise be prepared to live with a brick until you restore your computer (you do have backups - right?)
Microsoft will be releasing a worm to fix this problem early next week!
Somewhere in a dark place you will find:
www.m1
This is the best service pack yet! It makes window$ user switch to something better.
I'm sorry. I can't believe I read a summary about a computer problem without it being called "bricking". What the hell is wrong with the world?!?
Huh? The summary indicates that the problem is happening in the release version of SP1, being delivered by automatic update. Who said anything about downloading a beta through BitTorrent?
And while we're at it, it "deserts", as in what you deserve, not "desserts". Nobody's talking about an after-dinner treat here!
If games, XP. Else, Linux.
I'm sick of following my dreams. I'm just going to ask where they're goin' and hook up with 'em later.
Format Hardrive and reinstall OS...That seemed to solve my problems...
It's left blank because I have nothing to say to you punks!
I upgraded to 10.5.2 last week... not sure what went wrong. Machine rebooted, and after providing my user name and password, it would go blue (the color of my desktop) for about a second, and then kick me back to the login screen. I booted into safe mood, booted off the Leopard disk and repaired permissions, repaired disk, reset the password, and that didn't work.
Then I did a clean Leopard install, and imported the user settings from my Time Machine backup (so I wouldn't have to manually reinstall all of my programs). Same thing happened, so I was forced to repave my laptop and reinstall all of my applications.
I'm just putting this out there to silence all of the anti-microsoft folks. A few users get screwed when an OS is updated, that's always been the case.
Oh, I did try to put Ubuntu on there between Leopard installs. Everything installed without issue, except the wireless performance was dismal (as in three minutes to load Google, timing out on everything else), and I couldn't get the VESA drivers to recognize the laptop resolution, and I couldn't get the proprietary ATI drivers to work with Compiz. It's very, very, close though. (On a side note, the Leopard disk utility is incapable of partitioning once Linux has been installed, so I had to nuke the partitions with the ubuntu installer before Leopard would successfully partition without the error: Resource Busy.)
"When I first heard Daydream Nation it quite frankly scared the living shit out of me." -- Matthew Stearns
Well. If you read the first forum post that person states that he used the Refresh RC... And my windows update doesn't tell me anything about any updates. If it's one of those preSP updates I can understand, but why doesn't you say so then...
to me, removing vista from a users computer is the best thing Microsoft has offered thus far!!!
It hasn't begun rolling out via Automatic Update and the linked article is a forum post that refers to SP1 RC Refresh. RC Refresh is technically the same patch as SP1 but Microsoft has since releases pre-patches for SP1 which are rolling out via Automatic Updates - presumably to fix many of these issues.
So yeah - this story seems like bullshit and those parroting its claims need to remember that this is Slashdot - where facts are less important than a story tagged "haha".
Something similar happened with the 10.4.11 update as well.
Echostorm writes with word that Windows Vista SP1, which began rolling out via Automatic Update, has left some users' machines unbootable.
A forum post from last month about issues with the Vista SP1 Release Candidate (prerelease code, just to let Echostorm know). SP1 does not go out via auto updates until next month, and is only officially available to select system builders and beta testers now.
It's unclear how many users are affected.
I counted 5, including the guy who yanked his power cable and trashed his filesystem.
So far there is no word on a fix from Microsoft.
It might possibly be fixed in the RTM version of SP1. Who knows? Certainly not Echostorm, who is having a poopie because he hosed his own PC and is trying to drum up a whine-fest about it. Definitely not kdawson either, who posted this because, well, it's kdawson.
This is taking slashvertisments to the preschool tantrum level.
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"Outlook not so good." That magic 8-ball knows everything! I'll ask about Exchange Server next.
Microsoft is very much a market driven company; the marketing department is the driving force for all of M$ projects. While this can be very good for profit margins, its not so good for the poor engineers. With M$ software development model, the test engineers some times get a build a day that they have to test, and they are very dependent on other M$ product to speed up those tests by creating testing scripts. The only problem is that when you are testing software with a product that maybe faulty; what do you expect to get? M$ need to slow down the marketing department, and allow the engineers to do their job.
It's unclear how many users are affected.
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Obviously, because these poor souls can't even get their PC's started, let alone post on
This is a fantastic way to cut your support costs. Squeaky wheels only get grease if you can hear them in the first place.
Take off every 'sig' for great justice.
Oh well, thank goodness for live CDs and the recovery partition.
What?
you can download a disk image, boot from the disk, and start being productive. It's a proven fix that worked for me.
Vista Repair Disk
I used it as soon as I started having problems with Vista on a new work computer and it's been smooth sailing ever since.
"The Most Fun Possible on 4 wheels" is at SunBuggy in Las Vegas
of the situation years ago when a patch went that killed ones network connection. The solution from Microsoft? Download a new patch to correct the situation.
Um, yeah.
We will bankrupt ourselves in the vain search for absolute security. -- Dwight D. Eisenhower
Vista SP1 isn't available publicly yet, unless you hop on The Pirate Bay.
Microsoft placed 6 weeks between code finalization and public release for 6 weeks of driver testing; some drivers were not properly written, and MS wanted to work with hardware manufacturers/OEMs to find hardware with problems. Everyone bitched about how technical users should get it early.
Then these same people download SP1 from an unauthorized source, and bitch when it breaks their system. They downloaded an update without letting Microsoft work the kinks out, and they didn't get the update from MS. No automatic download was involved in this.
"The year of Windows on the Desktop."
Trolly, but true.
Genesis 1:32 And God typed
Since Vista SP1 isn't even being deployed via Windows Update until next month, this whole story reeks of BS...
I tried the Service Pack. It left me with a machine that looked exactly the same but now made poping noises. I did not really notice a big drive speed improvment. There did seem to me some sharper quality to the screen but that was about it. The poping sound which seems related to manipulating the mouse over windows drove me nuts so I rolled back. If I had to guess it was either trying to make a sound and failing or for some reason the driver was dropping out.
Automatic update does not ship SP1 yet - its scheduled to be released sometimes in march via automatic update. The story is completely wrong and you might as well apple-astro-turfing.
The linked thread seems to be about the updates issued to enable SP1 rather than sp1 itself.
when I installed the leak I got stage 3, stage 3 (0%), stage 1, stage 2, stage 3, then everything worked fine.
did the same thing happen for everybody? or is this installation just awesome
I'm surprised to see about a Slashdot story on software making problems for hardware that doesn't use the word "bricked".
Vista SP1 isn't officially released yet, nor is it coming down by automatic updates.
So... why is this story about unreleased software trashing people's systems that they're stupid enough to install software that isn't RTM code being considered news?
Never trust a Slashdot summary (especially if it's posted by kdawson!). SP1 won't be available via Windows Update/Automatic Update until March.
Dear idiot mods: the parent post is not a troll (unless you think the poster is trolling him/her self?). Please learn what the fuck you are doing on the Internet before you start clicking buttons.
I believe MS said they would not roll it to fully automated updates till they fixes some driver installation problem that was displayed in the RC.
They however failed to tell what drivers were affected, and how you can manually fix it. Yanking the power cord certainly is not the method MS would recommend. It htink you need the install disk and run some kind of recovery mode. (that is how it worked under XP.
The linked forum post is referring to a RC, not to the RTM.
http://windowsvistablog.com/blogs/windowsvista/archive/2008/02/11/windows-vista-sp1-availability-for-technical-customers.aspx
"For broad availability, we are still planning to release in mid-March, since we want to be sure that everyone has the smoothest experience possible.". You can have it earlier if you are want to touch buttons....
windows update is only pushing
the final two of three prerequisite updates needed to install Windows Vista SP1
basically it says you still need 2 more reboots before you can have sp1 automatically.
Thanks for confirming how rabidly anti-Microsoft this site is.
Not only was the original article allowed to make it even though it was clearly incorrect. Since SP1 will not be available on Windows Update for at least a month. Most of the responders automatically piled on the typical anti-MS/Vista nonsens and even disagreed with posters trying to correct the article pointing to the article as proof.
Sorry to tell you, but I've got a regular user, bought his laptop from BB, and he called just before this story broke on /.
So, as I said above, either that's flat out wrong, or someone at MS messed up.
Linux, you magnificent bastard, I read the fucking manual!
I say that because we have been Beta testing SP1 on 350 machines here at my university for some months now. Machines with different graphic cards, processors , extra hardware like scanners, different printers, graphic input tablets, and so on. That problem in our 350 machines was never detected.
So, sure, that proble may exists, but it must be some special combination that non of the testers was available to reproduce. Let it be only a 0,5 percent of Vista users who have that problem. You will read about it anywhere and think "oh, that sucks, they do not test, blah blah". Sure, only the press doesn't write about the 99,5% who didn't have any problems with it. It's a problem with proportion: do you want to see the glass half-full or half-empty. And here in /. you sure want it to be half empty.
It's time to realise that Abble's products are the biggest abomination these days. Just say NO to the dumb iAbble way!!
- Debian
- Ubuntu
- Red Hat
- ...
Or use it as a sign to get a new stylish computer which actually "just works".Incorrect. If you paid attention, it was rolled out via the automatic update.
... I had it rebooting for over an hour before I stopped the madness.
So you believe everything you read? Even if you did, if you RTFA, the not-so-reliable Forum post says NOTHING about Windows Update (emphasis mine):
My install of the SP1 RC Refesh has gone wrong.
Everytime I start the computer it says:
Configurating updates: stage 3 of 3 - 0% complete
And then reboots, and reboots, and reboots
All the safe modes does the same, so how do I uninstall the installer, without being able to log in?
You missed a condition
if "you want games"
XP
else if "you want it to just work" and "not update 50 packages per 1 updated package"
Mac OS X
else
Linux
So When are we planning to ship it?
* Mile Stone 1 (Feb 4, 2008): Available to OEM and Retail Channel
* Mile Stone 2 (Early March 2008): Vista SP1 Volume Licensing Availability
* Mile Stone 3 (Mid March 2008): Vista SP1 availability through Windows Update/MSDN/TechNet
* Mile Stone 4 (April 2008): Will be pushed via Automatic Update
http://blogs.technet.com/bpaulblog/archive/2008/02/06/shipping-a-high-quality-vista-service-pack-1.aspx
I've emboldened the relevant parts. The summary, once again, is wrong.This isn't SP1 per se - it's a Windows Update for SP1's rollout
Um, either the /. summary was wrong (and Captain Splendid in the other reply), but it clearly stated that it is being pushed now via Windows Update (I wouldn't know, not an MS customer). And there was no mention of bittorrent downloads. It's pretty obvious what I hoped to be corrected.
"When I first heard Daydream Nation it quite frankly scared the living shit out of me." -- Matthew Stearns
I got Vista Home Premium with a new Dell Inspiron 530 I bought the other day, and I found that I liked it a lot (and I've been an MS basher around here too-I'm astounded myself). I have not had any problems with Vista running any of my old Windows software and it has worked with all of my hardware. So, I'm keeping it on here rather than dicking with Kubuntu and getting that up and running. I'll just keep that on my old machine.
I got a work email from Microsoft saying that Vista SP1 was available now on MSDN. So, I downloaded it last night. Just to be sure before I took the plunge, I chatted with Dell customer support who told me not to install SP1 yet and to wait until it comes out over Windows Update. I couldn't quite get it out of them, but it sounds like Dell is still working with Microsoft on some things. More than once I was told to not install SP1 on my machine. So, I'm waiting it out.
How is that marked Flaimbait? What parent says is the real truth, and if you don't believe it that distributing a monster system like Windows which must run in millions of different combinations is an almost imposible thing to do without X problems, you are a fool and dont have ANYTHING to do with the Moderator tag. Now, waist your points on me, so too, please, so maybe /. will be a better place.
This news report is misleading. The opening post in that forum refers to a RC (Release Candidate) and NOT the currently released SP1 proper (avilable via MSDN). I have no idea if these issues are affetcing users that install the new SP1 but it must be realized that the forum mentioned in the report is certainly talking about an RC Refresh which is NOT the same as the final SP1.
Not publicly out yet. Not on Windows Update or automatic updates.
(Good ol' Slashdot. If you're going to have editors actually posting articles instead of the mob, couldn't you at least put in minimal fact checking? Don't you need to improve how things work at least a bit to make for the audience you've lost with Digg / Reddit?)
(...leaves Slashdot for another 6 months...)
What are you smoking? S3 is still around. Matrox as well. Then there's Intel, ATi, nVidia, then there's 3DLabs. I think Trident might be around, but only in a pure 2D platform. Cirrus Logic is also still in business, though whether or not they still manufacture GPUs is unknown to myself.
Still waiting on Serviscope_minor to wake up to fucking reality and realize that Jessica Price isn't going to fuck him.
Microsoft is reporting excellent news from SP1 users. Some users are reporting:
- 100% guaranteed virus protection
- Increased data security
- Greatly decreased network overhead
Reports indicate these improvements are accompanied by a slight increase in boot load time."Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much." - Oscar Wilde
Historically (with the XP service packs) most update instability was caused by malware. I imagine that the same will be true with the Vista service pack roll-out.
When SP1 is actually released, get yourselves ready for a billion lame Slashdot stories about how Vista SP1 blew up some poor sap's computer, killed his dog, and slept with his wife.
Parent is not a troll. Jeez, the MS fanbois are out in force today.
Linux, you magnificent bastard, I read the fucking manual!
You don't need to go to Pirate Bay at all for Vista SP1 or XP SP3. They are both available on WindowsUpdate if you make one change to your registry to permit downloading of the patch. I wrote briefly about such a feature here
Did these people get what they (somewhat) deserve for downloading and applying an officially not-ready-for-prime-time update, or were they the victims of automatic update of a badly tested official update.
Uh, none of the SP1 prerequisite updates require 3 step reboots. I installed SP1 in a virtual machine- it's the only Vista update to date that has a "Step 3 of 3". Article is pure FUD.
I had this problem on a patch that a part of the SP1 update. It's grub... it tries to rewrite the bootloader and grub makes it angry, just pull it then patch.
Vista is the coffin for Microsoft, by revealing core incompetencies.
Those registry edits force the release candidates, which are more stable than betas but are still not intended for widespread public consumption. That's meant to let hobbyists run on non production machines.
100% accurate - and /. needs to check their facts.
No one is receiving this through Automatic Updates (the agent that runs in the background periodically checking for updates and downloading them when available). Only beta testers using pre-release software could even receive this through what's called AU.
Some facts are missing. And pre-release software is being used.
Bill Gates: "Your most unhappy customers are your greatest source of learning."
Unfortunately, you have to put what you have learned into practice a lot better than we are hearing.
It took 7 years to get Vista out the door. If they slowed down any more, they would be stopped!
Peter predicted that you would "deliberately forget" creation 2000 years ago...
This installed on my production machine Wednesday:
KB937287
Description from Microsoft's Support Site: This article describes the prerequisite software updates that apply to versions of Windows Vista that are mentioned in the "Applies to" section. These software updates are a prerequisite for Windows Vista Service Pack 1 (SP1). Additionally, these updates help improve reliability when you install or remove Windows Vista SP1.
Two or three additional software updates are required before you install Windows Vista SP1. The software updates that are required depend on the version of Windows Vista that you want to upgrade. Prerequisite update 935509 that is listed in this article only applies to Windows Vista Enterprise and to Windows Vista Ultimate. The other prerequisite updates that are listed in this article apply to all versions of Windows Vista.
Such duplicates is, or can be, good management. It allows decoupling of development, so important bug fixes in one part of the tool chain can be released without waiting for another part of the tool chain which might be under a major rewrite.
Major free software packages like gcc does the same, include their own copy of various utilities and libraries. Doing so provides the best of two worlds, it allows code sharing at the development plane, while avoiding the coupling usually associated with using some other projects code.
There is a tiny price in disk usage for the end user, but a price worth paying for not having to wait an additional year for new features, because release schedules have to get synchronized.
To get the full benefit it is necessary to have established clear ownership of the various components, and have a strong ethics with regard to making sure changes are propagated back "upstream". Such an ethics is evolving in the free software world.
I have no idea if the situation is similar inside Microsoft, but the basic mechanisms favoring decoupling certainly exists within a large company as well.
It may well not be SP1.
A very large number of owners of ASUS P5N-E motherboards are reporting the same issue simply with recent updates. It's quite likely the SP1 update is simply triggering the same issue.
Here's a google search on the issue. You'll notice a common thread is that P5N-E owners have the issue, users of other motherboards don't see it.
It's been happening since mid January, from what I can gather, and I'm not finding any solutions to it yet.
Breaking news: software patch causes errors on some systems. Slashdotters say "Vista sucks".
While Vista does, indeed, suck, errors from patches/upgrades are no new thing. They've been around for donkey's years - and, yes, they appear on OS X and Linux too.
Those using pirated Tinysoft signatures(TM) are a real threat to society and should all be thrown in jail.
Major inaccuracy alert, starting with the fact that Vista SP1 is *not* yet rolling out via Windows Update. The article linked in the OP refers to Vista SP1 RC Refresh. This is a release candidate version of SP1, which means it's a publically available release but one that is still part of the beta program. To obtain the update, you need to implement a specific registry edit or Windows Update will not find and install it. The RTM version of SP1 is not yet out officially, although the stand-alone installers for both 32- and 64-bit versions are riding the torrents.
My Vista-based HTPC did its automatic update routine on Wednesday. Among the updates were updates for MS Office/MS Works (odd, because neither is installed on the HTPC... noticed the same with my XP-based laptop... that one actually does have Office 2003 installed, but still no MS Works, likewise my PC at work). Nowhere did it ask about, or offer, Vista SP1.
Unless MS has broken from its time-honoured tradition of releasing all of the monthly updates in a batch on the 2nd Tuesday of the month, I detect the faint aroma of bovine scat.
If you believe everything you read, you'd better not read. - Japanese proverb
Here I am getting used to M$ and their goal of vendor lock-in and they turn the tables on me...with vendor lock-out.
Well... the one from Piratebay does exactly as the summary suggests, but it reboots like 3-4 times and then it goes through and works like a charm.
Really? I don't know when you last read slashdot, but I have seen lots of criticism for both Apple, Firefox, and even Linux, about half of it by fanboys such as yourself.
PS. Most of us here do hate Microsoft, and will make any attempt to descredit them, especially for reasable issues like this one. Microsoft are the only major operating system to employ such draconian measures as WGA, so we will laugh and point when it stuff up. Maybe we all like Slashdot, as it has been for years, and it is you who should find somewhere to complain to...there are plenty of pro-microsoft sites out there.
And this comes from a company that says 'If you use open source, you must think your time is worthless'.
So Microsoft, will you compensate me for the time I spend fixing my system? Since my time is not 'worthless' and I paid $X dollars for your OS, I do think I am entitled to some compensation.
Oh, wait, reading the license terms, "NO WARRANTY" or "FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE"..hmm, looks like the same license terms for FREE software, except I didn't pay for the latter.
My time certainly isn't free, so either compensate me, or I will continue using more free software.
K, thx bye!
Mine say 'KDE initializing' when booting. AM I AFFECTED??
This is obviously completely anecdotal, but I torrented a version of SP1 for Vista 64 and installed it just fine on my desktop machine running Ultimate on a P5N-E/Wifi-AP (the wifi bit is just a wireless card stuck on one of the USB headers). However, I installed a BIOS update that was released a week or two before SP1 RTM hit the torrent sites, so that may be related to why I'm not having trouble but many other users are.
There is a lot of BS in this forum. Let me say once and for all that SP1 is available NOW for MSDN and Technet subscribers.
.exe and an x64 .exe.
There are three downloads, a DVD image, an x86
Read here if you don't believe me:
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/windowsvista/bb898842.aspx [microsoft.com]
In addition the "news" report about install issues was gleaned from a forum that was discussing the earlier RC build of SP1, this is NOT the final SP1 that is available now.
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Hmmm. Hack your registry to get a service pack that isn't ready to be released yet, and then complain that it broke your system. Brilliant.
The Vista SP1 on most BitTorrent web sites is RC2 hacked to look like RTM, no wonder people installing it are having issues. Might also have a few trojans as well in it.
I only get Microsoft service packs from Microsoft, less trojans and less hacked betas that look like the real thing.
Remember, Slashdot does not have a -1 disagree moderation, and no, troll, flamebait, and overrated are not substitutes.
I run Debian Sid, which normally gets the latest and greatest of anything. I have checked more than half a dozen of the most common repositories, but no luck. No "sp1", no "SP1", no nothing. Could someone please give me a pointer to an updated one so I can edit my precious /etc/apt/sources.list.
Linux rulez!
Well from what i can tell, the title of the story is wrong. It's not Vista Service Pack 1 that is causing the issue, it's some other update (they are pre req's for vista service pack 1 which are public and are downloadable through automatic updates), they are required for SP1 when it's released in March.
-Pizentios
Uh, yeah moderators, an anonymous coward who generalises and calls people retards and idiots gets "+3 insightful" and a moderate fact-based response gets flamebait. Whatever. There's a special place reserved in hell for you biased /. moderators.
The forum post was written over two weeks ago (27 Jan), so it's not about something brand new. It clearly discusses an "SP1 RC," i.e. a Release Candidate, that is, a beta. Not SP1 final, not something automatically pushed through Windows Update.
None of the important points made in this story post are true. It's utter baloney. Worse than that, it's incredibly obviously baloney. This story should be deleted. Even if you hate Microsoft, libel isn't nice.
Shame on Slashdot for falling for this.
Oh slashdot, how you have become the Fox News of the IT world. Fact: SP1 has not been on automatic update yet, and won't be for a couple of weeks yet.
To echo what others have said, let's not let simple things like facts get in the way of good journalism.
throw new NoSignatureException();
SP 1 was available early to OEM's, IIRC. This does not bode well for ordinary "Home Premium" schmucks who'd rather be using Leopard.
``Tension, apprehension & dissension have begun!'' - Duffy Wyg&, in Alfred Bester's _The Demolished Man_
Wrong. It's available to MSDN users http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/windowsvista/bb898842.aspx
They've actually fixed the two bugs I reported - domain prefixes not working properly and slow network transfer over gigabit ethernet.
Ok this is my situation, I custom built my PC, I DID NOT download any SP1 or any other unlicensed software for windows, my computer worked fine last night and it installed an Automatic update from Microsft and I was prompted to install from update center. I ok'd it and when it restarted this morning I get this stage 1,2 3 0% bull. Nothing works, no safe mode I am gonna have to restore. This is an actual issue and not some dumb beta thing people pirating got. I dont know if this is just a regular update or some pre-SP1 thing, but reguardless it was an official Vista patch and it bugged my system and what seems to be many others. Anyone affected with this is just gonna have to restore because even if Microsoft gets a fix there is no way to implement it to your machine because you cant get into windows, so restore, restart and hope to god someone fixes it.
The summary is wrong. The forum thread is talking about the RC of SP1.
You are being far too charitable.
The Slashdot "editor" - and I use the word loosely - leads with any story slamming Microsoft and Vista, no matter how transparently flawed or fraudulent on its face.
The crapflood has been building ever since Microsoft posted its first and second quarterly returns.
____
The W3Schools OS Platform Stats are out for January.
With Vista positioned to overtake OSX and Linux in a month or two. Not a bad showing for an OS whose greatest strength has been in the Premium and Ultimate OEM consumer install.
According to MS' official statements, a good portion of the reason they're not releasing it via Windows Update until March is to give hardware manufacturers time to fix the remaining driver compatibility issues. If people have chosen to download a copy via bittorrent or other file sharing networks, it's at their own risk. MS hasn't made it publicly available yet.
The infinite loop is much faster in SP1...
This story is factually incorrect...
Anyone who did get Vista SP1 on Auto Updates must have hacked their registry to get the RC rollout (fools!) Why apply RC's to prod machines..
The forum entry in the link specifically says Release Candidate.
FUD!!
How does Slashdot get away with crap journalism like this? They should get their ass sued off!
The people may give you free help with your nVidia laptop video drivers: LaptopVideo2Go
Worked for me. I found a driver for an old Toshiba laptop that runs my 24 inch monitor at 90 degree (vertical) rotation.
Ok, after some research, people who are having problems appear to be the one's downloading the RC for SP1. Currently, aside from specific beta testers and some members of MSDN, you can only get this update from Bit Torrent. If that is truly the case, my original comment stands. If you're a retard who's going to download the latest SP before it's officially released, you get what you have coming.
Also, my guess is that many of those downloading the torrent version of the service pack are those who are running 'non-authentic' versions of Vista. Yes, I'm implying they're stolen or unregistered copies.
Hey mods. Just because you don't agree with a comment doesn't mean it's flamebait or that I'm a troll. If I was going to troll the forums, why wouldn't I post anonymously?
For early adopters.
.s do they need? )
Although for some, it was a forced adoption.
Looks like there will be a Microsoft Windows Vista SP1.1 update...
( how many
In the last related article I found quite a few things, google will tell you a small script will modify your registry to have windows updates allow you to download the service pack. Worked well for me, just installed it tonight.
this news is pure FUD
I'm waiting for a bug to touch some of the WGA system. Particular since so many hackers have taken to breaking it. It's just a matter of time before one of their WGA fixes breaks the system for the innocent people. Copy protection has never worked. The worst part is the more extreme these software companies get with the copy protection the more likely it won't work for paying customers who legitimately bought the software and only the pirated versions with the copy protection works as intended. Amazing, no one has learned this lesson from the last time software companies went hell bent with the idea of copy protection in the C64 days.
A big fucking button that says, "skip this shit and boot MOFO"
Liberty freedom are no1, not dicks in suits.
You guys can say what you want, but this is why I look at slashdot less and less
Good, please leave, thanks! This is our little place to bash MS and we like it that way.
Oh, and just for the record, I've been using Vista since it was released and it's a stinking turd-pile, I've had more problems with it in one year than I've had with all other versions of Windows over ten years, and that's not an exaggeration. I could write a several-page essay just summing up the main points here, but that would be tedious. In all though I've easily lost several weeks of time just tracking down and fixing Vista problems, and still they come. So take your astroturfing propaganda elsewhere. Vista's a certified turd.
I have, but thankfully not very much. I've used every Windows version since Windows 3.1. 98 crashed a lot, so it's a close crappiness contest between Vista and 98, but Vista is FAR more bloated and slow, and although it doesn't crash often, badly broken in many other respects.
As the original poster here's an update on my side of the story. Disclaimer this was not an update for SP1 proper - it was a predeployment security update FOR SP1 according to Vista dev blogs, released 2/12/2008 through Windows update.
3 hours on the phone with Microsoft Technical Support did not get me anywhere except to a "professional level technician" that asked me right off the bat to pay $249 for the incident support. After expressing my incredulity at such a ridiculous offer for their own security patch deployment screw up, I asked to talk to her manager and eventually he called back 12 hours later to sympathize with me that he has no idea what is going on from over in Bangladore.
So unlike some lucky few who have been able to find a restore point, I was unable to find a restore point let alone my harddisks! To add insult to injury apparently during the course of Vista's development they convenients and subversively caused a massive support problem with Intel RAID controllers. Just so happens that my system disks were configured in a RAID-1 array. I loaded every single instantiation of RAID drivers circa 1994 - and NOTHING worked to have Windows Setup see my installations - so in essence: NO RESTORE POINT FOR YOU.
At this point I was crippled, no access to the OS, no way to break through this endless bricking loop, no way to restore to a previous point, and yet paradoxically through the Windows Vista System Repair environment's cmd I still had full access to my C:\ contents -- IN MY RAID1 CONFIGURATION!
So short of xcopying everything out of my RAID1, I broke my RAID1 array via my RAID BIOS (After much searching to ensure this indeed is non-destructive since the BIOS does warn you twice that EVERYTHING WILL BE DELETED, I finally found comfort at Intel's own website (http://www.intel.com/support/chipsets/imsm/sb/CS-022836.htm) that RAID1 can be broken without any data loss.
So I now have to migrate my data out, reinstall Windows, and salvage my files in a new install. This would be easy except for the fact that I had over 100 applications installed (now to REINSTALL), and 1TB worth of data to sort through.
Points Learned:
Microsoft Sucks (Relearned)
Microsoft Windows Vista Sucks (Relearned)
Microsoft Windows Update should BE TURNED OFF from Automatic Updates (Not feasible or practicle, but I'd rather be hacked and whored than risk losing ALL MY FILES again due to stupidity rather than devious ingenuity)
RAID with Windows is trouble (sync a backup instead daily, or image weekly)
A likely culprit: AVG may be contributory to this problem
And did I mention, Microsoft Sucks?
Microsoft you owe me 14 hrs of my time
Thats about 0.5% of the market, and because they are so small, I bet Matrox makes damn sure their drivers are good to not piss of their base.
But there are like 10 variations in intel embedded gfx chips, so we can possibly blame intel.
Liberty freedom are no1, not dicks in suits.
I cannot name or find one person (unless they financially benefit) that likes MS.
Its like someone loving their income tax assessor agent from the govt.
Liberty freedom are no1, not dicks in suits.
This problem isn't from SP1 itself, but from the prerequisite updates that microsoft HAS rolled out automatically. These updates are automatically dowloaded and installed by any machine set up in default configuration.
I thought I struck gold when googling and got this thread, which exactly explains the issue I am having with someone's laptop. This older person is totally lost and now has this problem. I thought there might be an answer when I saw this thread, but after sifting through all the useless responses that were doing nothing to try to help out with the actual problem, I gave up. Forgive me if i missed the answer buried in the mountain of arrogant bravo sierra. I'll look elsewhere. Again, I apologize to anyone who was trying to take this thread seriously, especially the person who posted originally. I feel your pain.
No shit, Sherlock!!
READ THIS CAREFULLY. THE PROBLEM ISN'T WITH SP1. THE PROBLEM IS WITH A BUNCH OF UPDATES RELEASED BY MICROSOFT IN ADVANCE OF THE RELEASE OF SP1. ONE OF THESE UPDATES TOTALLY F**KS YOUR COMPUTER.
Now, more calmly. The updates downloaded and installed onto my puter on Saturday via Windows auto updates. They need a reboot to configure and install, so you don't see the effects until your next restart. Sunday morning and I had a computer that was completely stuck in a loop for 5 hours before I finally pulled the plug.
Microsopt have now acknowledged that one of these updates is the problem. You are left with a system which is as much use as a chocolate fireguard.
Solution
1. Boot into safe mode if you can (I could).
2. Find a system restore point - I had to roll back to 6th Feb
3. SWITCH OF AUTO UPDATES OR YOU'LL BE BACK WHERE YOU STARTED
4. Residual effect is that keyboard driver irretrievably trashed, have no spacebar, return or backspace, so using another keyboard with a different driver.
5. Check out
http://forums.microsoft.com/TechNet/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=2748299&SiteID=17
This will tell you all you need to know.
Suffice to say that the site has had 28,000 hits so far.
Microsoft have issued a single statement confirming the problem and that are investigation.
JUST TO REPEAT FOR THE HARD OF THINKING, THIS IS NOT SP1, THIS WAS UDATES REQUIRED IF YOU ARE GOING TO INSTALL SP1 WHEN IT IS FINALLY RELEASED. THESE UPDATES WERE RELEASED BY MICROSOFT AND AUTOMATICALLY INSTALLED ON YOUR PUTER IF YOU HAD AUTO UPDATES ENABLED. THERE IS NO PIRATING INVOLVED. THERE ARE NO DODGY SITES INVOLVED. MICROSOFT HAVE RELEASED A CRITICAL UPDATE WHICH TRASHES YOUR PUTER.
Now I can only assume that there have been very few posts since Friday because all of you lot who stated that problems were due to people trying to pirate SP1 are now unable to get your puters to boot, let alone get on-line because tyou pooh-poohed the whole thing. OK, the title of thhe article is misleading, but if you'd bothered to read any of the posts from affected users, you would have seen that this was a huge problem and bog all do do with pirating.
To rub salt into the wound, this problem was discovered when SP1 RC was released to beta testers. The testers had to install the 6 prerequisite updates before they could install SP1. They hit the same wall. Yet Microsoft have done nothing about this problem and have released it as an automatic update. You really couldn't make this up.
I'm now faced with a 150Gb backup and a clean re-install of Vista, except that the microsoft update has trashed so much of my system that I can't boot from the recovery partition or even the recovery DVD.
2 hrs on the phone to Dell and another 2 to Microsoft. Nether can sort it and Microsoft admit it is their problem!!!!! I certainly wasn't the first caller today and I don't think I was the last.
I'm sorry if I've come over a bit sharp, but I've just spent 36 hours dealing with a problem that some of you say doesn't exist. Thanks for the help, folks, I'll be going to a site which has people who know what they're talking about, rather than coming here to be told it's my own fault because I did something that I didn't even do in the first place. Grow up!!