The interesting thing is, when you have that type of freedom, you often can take stuff like this more in stride than if you don't have it and feel trapped. When I was in your enveyable situation, I found that I was less likely to have to also. These management guys do seem to know when your vulnerable and are quick to take advantage. When the boss says "take it or leave it", and you can say "Do you want me to finish out the pay period, or clock-out now?" without anxiety, they usualy reconsider.
I've often wondered why senoirity wasn't based on hours worrked maybe even counting OT at 1.5, instead of calender dates. Could you see employees requesting their annual salary/performance reviews every 9 mounths because they've hit the 2000 hrs mark? At least this way employees who go the extra mile, would get accelerated benefits increases, raises, additional vacation times ect.
I definitely can't understand the management mentality that believes that someone that's working 80h/week can produce more than someone doing 40
His management didn't want to if fact they argued against it, the customer insisted. I got the feeling the the customer was also being courted by an other company on the project and the customer was waivering between the know performance of the poster's company, and the other that was probably making wide promises. Hopefully because this is only going to be for a couple of months, (his company said 4-6 weeks) maybe they'll be saved by the 80/20 rule, you can get 80% of a job done in 20% of the time and the customer will not notice the rough edges. Most comercial software seems to ship at 80% complete anyways.
chink in the armor, this is more like checkmate consider this, 1. SCO distributed GPL'ed software, ie Linux 2. SCO claims that IBM Illegaly transfered IP into Linux. 3. SCO continues to distribute LINUX after allegedly discovery of non-GPLed code contamination Linux, a violation of the GPL and an infingement of the linux code copywrite owners rights. 4. the only possible defense against an infringement suit from the kernel developers would be to say they were mistake about IBM's inclusion of SCO's IP into Linux, and everything in their Linux distribution is properly GPL'ed to the best of their knowelge and belief.
Now the question becomes if the owners of system V unix found code in both Linux and SCO unix that were the same, where did the code code from? possibilities Linux copied SCO code into Linux SCO copied Linux code into unix both copied a third parties code into both (BSD maybe?)
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IANAL, but because the person reviewing the trade secret did so without illeagal means, then that trade secrets he saw are no longer secrets, and therefore IMHO no longer protected while that wouldn't help IBM in this matter, it should lessen any effects on Linux in general
That's why I reget make Senators popularly elected, originaly they were appointed by each states governor's to represent the state's governament who was popularly elected; more akin to being an ambassitor to the UN now.
My first computer was a COSMAC ELF, had a RCA 1802 processor and 254 bits of 500mS static ram, input was by flipping toggle switches for each bit of machine code and pushing the single step buttom to load the byte. It was built by wire-wrapping each pin to the next, unfortunately I never got it running.
Yes and if every Russian had the integrety and compassion of Dmitri's employer's; the Soviet Union would still be a worker's paradise. Perhaps that's why the example stands out so clearly, it's very exceptional.
just refuse to work 20 hours of unpaid overtime a week, and all the other unreasonable demands they make of you. Let them fire you.
I've seen in other fields where an employer wants an employee gone, but doesn't want to fire him and pay the extra in unemployment isnsurance premiums; and the employee wants to leave, but doesn't want to give up the unemployment check by quitting, so they would rather be fired. This quickly degenerates into a kind of Sado-Masochistic ritual where each constantly provokes the other with increasing intensity. After a while the whole work environment is tainted, because the employers and the employee quickly become the laughingstocks arround the water-cooler and everbody has lost any respect that they might have had for anyone.
The next step is of course for the employer to start looking for the next piece of deadwood to prune, and the employees start back-stabbing each other, to avoid being the next target. Of course I've gotten the feeling that, that is either happening or will quickly be the next step.
shouldn't I be able to go and sink lots of money into a fast-fast- fast processor, and then skimp on the video card and let the CPU take up the slack?
if the graphics card says it can do it why would the cpu expect that it can't? If you want good snappy video performance, then that's where you should sink your mad-money, what good is it for the cpu to spend 10 cycles waiting on the video card instead of 5 cycles?
I've got one with a serious problem from day one then, I usualy punch the power button, go downstairs and get some coffee, come back and click the login, go to the bathroom, take a piss and return to see the last of the system tray loading; a 1.8 Ghz P4 w/.5GB ram.OEM WinXP on a dell 2350
1. threat analysis Who Wants in, a. Employess wanting to access the network for legit work but using unauthorized means; b. Script kiddies looking to gain a reputation for hacking your network; c. industrial spy's; d. multi-national corp or governments? What do they want a. all of our data just went out in a press release anyways; b. to access data they are authorized while moving arround with thier laptop for the cool factor; c. competitor seeking a market place advantage; d. nefarious persons seeking to destroy your company and put everybody in prison e. forgien inteligence agencies seeking national security information. 2 Cost to benifit analysis Nothing is secure you want to make the threat's percieved value of your data less than the cost of aquiring that data and you want to spend resources in manpower, hardware and software costs that are less than the actual value of the data to be protected. If a sucessful intrution, is likely to causes the CEO to wig-out and order unreasonal expenditures to protect the network, factor in a agravation expense too.
I think the minimum you want to do is, a. periodic site scan with a laptop and wireless cards. b. periodic wardial your pool of phone numbers to look for unauthorised modems and fax machines. c. use nmap or similar program to map your network from both the inside and outside, do network segments seperate. d. select a computer population sub-sample and run a spyware detection program on them like Spybot S&D, also might as well check for licienses for the software at the same time. e. treat your employess with respect, and actualy pay them enough so that they have a little real loyalty to the company, and aren't so easy to compromise. f. employee education, just tell them no unauthorised software/hardware and give them a mechanism to get things authorised also.
After that I'd think about looking for cameras like those x10 cameras, bug sweeps; maybe even hiring a pro to check things once a year, and before and durring a particularly valuable project.
On friday the thirteenth the unimaginable will happen! All of the AIX machines in the world will become Illegal, oh the humanity. Hundreds of previously upstanding companys will be running illeagal warz!
seriously would be interesting if IBM filed counter-suits, and as part of the discovery process requested the complete UNIX SVR4 source code and pedigries; with 10K patents in the basement I'm sure the lawyers at IBM could find a few infringements of their own.
Originaly, fraging was throwing a fragmentation grenade into someones tent while they were sleeping, the someone was usually a superior Office or NCO. Grenades leave little forensic evidence that could be collected without a FBI crime-lab, so the murderer usualy got away scott-free. This was quickly expanded to include shooting people durring fire-fights, which is often difficult to seperate from freindly-fire accidents.
Military leadership is the art and science of telling a group of people who out-number you, and are armed with pistols, rifles, and grenades to do things that could very easily get them killed or maimed, and having them do it.
I actualy I know that "experts" are well interviewed and rehearsted before giving their depositions; if your interviews aren't to the hiring parties liking, another will be hired that is more benificial to the sides arguements.
a good expert can spin for quite a while on 2% of a case and gloss over 98%, even in cross-x without lieing, remember an expert opinion is an opinion.
SCalderaO, I like that, when I read it, it gives me a mental picture of a cat leaping into a pot of boiling water, which is about as self-destructive as insulting 3/4 of your customers that use linux at home and wished that they had it at work instead of unixware/openServer, and at the same time picking a fight with IBM.
a SCO system is pretty useless by Linux standards, scripting is all bourne shell, AWK, and TCL/TK; the utilities are all vintage 70's stuff like more (can't back scroll) rather than less and vi rather than emacs or vim. So what must people who actualy use or admin SCO systems do is install some modern GNU utilities, Perl, and of course GCC.
The other thing to remember is that most SCO systems aren't used for anything except running one vertical app. Ours runs Command Dental System, a cobol suite of programs that are multi-user over serial lines to wyse 60 terminals. It was ported over from xenix, and what was funny is SCO changed from curses to ncurses when they change from 16 bit xenix to 32 bit openserver and this cause bizzar characters to appear in the screen boarders and support(Command Dental) couldn't figure out that the only thing they had to do to correct it was to change the systems default font!(I didn't dare change it myself because with a support contract, if you change anything, everything is forevermore your fault.)
An other area that SCO had good penatratrion in is resturants, multiple waitress stations intputing orders with touch screens and swipe cards.
This potentialy includes all of the shell scripts included in both unix and linux, the file layouts, maybe they are saying the a fs that's //lib/usr/usr/home/etc/var
I don't think so, who ever bought the rights to unix Source code that SCO claims to own, would probably buy the NDA's also, no sense in buying copyrights, trade secrets, and trademarks ect unless you can control them.
IANAL but the way I read it is if you sign, you cannot disclose anything that SCO relieved to you, even if you've seen it before. Particaly speaking if SCO stole or devised independently YOUR code, placed it in the relieved code, you could no longer distribute the code that they stole or devised independently without breaching the NDA. Nothing to gain, every thing to lose.
it might be a mote point, consider this IBM signed a NDA with SCO for unix source code that SCO provided to them,
1. if SCO doesn't really own the rights to the code, is IBM still in breach of the NDA for releasing the code into Linux? could be you'd have to go through the contact with a fine tooth comb, and check tonnes of case law to know,
2. hypotheticaly an IBM employee that never had access to the unix code is working on the linux code unknowingly releases identical unix code to linux, is IBM (the corp. entity that signed the NDA) in breach of its NDA?
Having used the Military Grid system in the Army I can vouche that'll work for addressing, the only problem I could see with using it instead of zip codes ect is these code are tyed to post offices, and delivery routes rather than locations resulting in things like 16 T CP 12345 67890 needing to go through one post office but 16 T CP 12355 67890, a location only 10 meters away might need to go through a different post office. Developed countries could easily crunch the routing data with database, but less developed places might not even be able to keep a paper lookup table from jungle-rotting away!
10 alpha-numeric characters to resolve a whole quadrangle? that's 1 Km square or one Million square meters, give me a break, The military grid system resolves to a 100 M square with 9 charecters with the last 6 as digits, and to a 10M square with 11 and the last eight being digits. If you need more resolution that that add 2 more and we're talking down to the meter squared with thirteen.
Actual since the circumference of the earth is approx 40075155 Meters any position can be described with 6 base 32 digits; the alphanumeric character less I L O Z to avoid confusion with number would suffice.
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The interesting thing is, when you have that type of freedom, you often can take stuff like this more in stride than if you don't have it and feel trapped.
When I was in your enveyable situation, I found that I was less likely to have to also. These management guys do seem to know when your vulnerable and are quick to take advantage. When the boss says "take it or leave it", and you can say "Do you want me to finish out the pay period, or clock-out now?" without anxiety, they usualy reconsider.
I've often wondered why senoirity wasn't based on hours worrked maybe even counting OT at 1.5, instead of calender dates. Could you see employees requesting their annual salary/performance reviews every 9 mounths because they've hit the 2000 hrs mark?
At least this way employees who go the extra mile, would get accelerated benefits increases, raises, additional vacation times ect.
I definitely can't understand the management mentality that believes that someone that's working 80h/week can produce more than someone doing 40
His management didn't want to if fact they argued against it, the customer insisted. I got the feeling the the customer was also being courted by an other company on the project and the customer was waivering between the know performance of the poster's company, and the other that was probably making wide promises. Hopefully because this is only going to be for a couple of months, (his company said 4-6 weeks) maybe they'll be saved by the 80/20 rule, you can get 80% of a job done in 20% of the time and the customer will not notice the rough edges. Most comercial software seems to ship at 80% complete anyways.
chink in the armor, this is more like checkmate
consider this,
1. SCO distributed GPL'ed software, ie Linux
2. SCO claims that IBM Illegaly transfered IP into Linux.
3. SCO continues to distribute LINUX after allegedly discovery of non-GPLed code contamination Linux, a violation of the GPL and an infingement of the linux code copywrite owners rights.
4. the only possible defense against an infringement suit from the kernel developers would be to say they were mistake about IBM's inclusion of SCO's IP into Linux, and everything in their Linux distribution is properly GPL'ed to the best of their knowelge and belief.
Now the question becomes if the owners of system V unix found code in both Linux and SCO unix that were the same, where did the code code from?
possibilities
Linux copied SCO code into Linux
SCO copied Linux code into unix
both copied a third parties code into both (BSD maybe?)
IANAL, but because the person reviewing the trade secret did so without illeagal means, then that trade secrets he saw are no longer secrets, and therefore IMHO no longer protected while that wouldn't help IBM in this matter, it should lessen any effects on Linux in general
That's why I reget make Senators popularly elected, originaly they were appointed by each states governor's to represent the state's governament who was popularly elected; more akin to being an ambassitor to the UN now.
My first computer was a COSMAC ELF, had a RCA 1802 processor and 254 bits of 500mS static ram, input was by flipping toggle switches for each bit of machine code and pushing the single step buttom to load the byte. It was built by wire-wrapping each pin to the next, unfortunately I never got it running.
Yes and if every Russian had the integrety and compassion of Dmitri's employer's; the Soviet Union would still be a worker's paradise. Perhaps that's why the example stands out so clearly, it's very exceptional.
just refuse to work 20 hours of unpaid overtime a week, and all the other unreasonable demands they make of you. Let them fire you.
I've seen in other fields where an employer wants an employee gone, but doesn't want to fire him and pay the extra in unemployment isnsurance premiums; and the employee wants to leave, but doesn't want to give up the unemployment check by quitting, so they would rather be fired. This quickly degenerates into a kind of Sado-Masochistic ritual where each constantly provokes the other with increasing intensity. After a while the whole work environment is tainted, because the employers and the employee quickly become the laughingstocks arround the water-cooler and everbody has lost any respect that they might have had for anyone.
The next step is of course for the employer to start looking for the next piece of deadwood to prune, and the employees start back-stabbing each other, to avoid being the next target. Of course I've gotten the feeling that, that is either happening or will quickly be the next step.
shouldn't I be able to go and sink lots of money into a fast-fast- fast processor, and then skimp on the video card and let the CPU take up the slack?
if the graphics card says it can do it why would the cpu expect that it can't? If you want good snappy video performance, then that's where you should sink your mad-money, what good is it for the cpu to spend 10 cycles waiting on the video card instead of 5 cycles?
I've got one with a serious problem from day one then, I usualy punch the power button, go downstairs and get some coffee, come back and click the login, go to the bathroom, take a piss and return to see the last of the system tray loading; a 1.8 Ghz P4 w/.5GB ram.OEM WinXP on a dell 2350
1. threat analysis
Who Wants in,
a. Employess wanting to access the network for legit work but using unauthorized means;
b. Script kiddies looking to gain a reputation for hacking your network;
c. industrial spy's;
d. multi-national corp or governments?
What do they want
a. all of our data just went out in a press release anyways;
b. to access data they are authorized while moving arround with thier laptop for the cool factor;
c. competitor seeking a market place advantage;
d. nefarious persons seeking to destroy your company and put everybody in prison
e. forgien inteligence agencies seeking national security information.
2 Cost to benifit analysis
Nothing is secure you want to make the threat's percieved value of your data less than the cost of aquiring that data and you want to spend resources in manpower, hardware and software costs that are less than the actual value of the data to be protected. If a sucessful intrution, is likely to causes the CEO to wig-out and order unreasonal expenditures to protect the network, factor in a agravation expense too.
I think the minimum you want to do is,
a. periodic site scan with a laptop and wireless cards.
b. periodic wardial your pool of phone numbers to look for unauthorised modems and fax machines.
c. use nmap or similar program to map your network from both the inside and outside, do network segments seperate.
d. select a computer population sub-sample and run a spyware detection program on them like Spybot S&D, also might as well check for licienses for the software at the same time.
e. treat your employess with respect, and actualy pay them enough so that they have a little real loyalty to the company, and aren't so easy to compromise.
f. employee education, just tell them no unauthorised software/hardware and give them a mechanism to get things authorised also.
After that I'd think about looking for cameras like those x10 cameras, bug sweeps; maybe even hiring a pro to check things once a year, and before and durring a particularly valuable project.
"You're making me angry, You won't like me when I'm angry"
On friday the thirteenth the unimaginable will happen! All of the AIX machines in the world will become Illegal, oh the humanity. Hundreds of previously upstanding companys will be running illeagal warz!
seriously would be interesting if IBM filed counter-suits, and as part of the discovery process requested the complete UNIX SVR4 source code and pedigries; with 10K patents in the basement I'm sure the lawyers at IBM could find a few infringements of their own.
Originaly, fraging was throwing a fragmentation grenade into someones tent while they were sleeping, the someone was usually a superior Office or NCO. Grenades leave little forensic evidence that could be collected without a FBI crime-lab, so the murderer usualy got away scott-free. This was quickly expanded to include shooting people durring fire-fights, which is often difficult to seperate from freindly-fire accidents.
Military leadership is the art and science of telling a group of people who out-number you, and are armed with pistols, rifles, and grenades to do things that could very easily get them killed or maimed, and having them do it.
I actualy I know that "experts" are well interviewed and rehearsted before giving their depositions; if your interviews aren't to the hiring parties liking, another will be hired that is more benificial to the sides arguements.
a good expert can spin for quite a while on 2% of a case and gloss over 98%, even in cross-x without lieing, remember an expert opinion is an opinion.
that's the fly in the ointment, if the dev came up with the same code independently, they would know what code was infringing.
SCalderaO, I like that, when I read it, it gives me a mental picture of a cat leaping into a pot of boiling water, which is about as self-destructive as insulting 3/4 of your customers that use linux at home and wished that they had it at work instead of unixware/openServer, and at the same time picking a fight with IBM.
a SCO system is pretty useless by Linux standards, scripting is all bourne shell, AWK, and TCL/TK; the utilities are all vintage 70's stuff like more (can't back scroll) rather than less and vi rather than emacs or vim. So what must people who actualy use or admin SCO systems do is install some modern GNU utilities, Perl, and of course GCC.
The other thing to remember is that most SCO systems aren't used for anything except running one vertical app. Ours runs Command Dental System, a cobol suite of programs that are multi-user over serial lines to wyse 60 terminals. It was ported over from xenix, and what was funny is SCO changed from curses to ncurses when they change from 16 bit xenix to 32 bit openserver and this cause bizzar characters to appear in the screen boarders and support(Command Dental) couldn't figure out that the only thing they had to do to correct it was to change the systems default font!(I didn't dare change it myself because with a support contract, if you change anything, everything is forevermore your fault.)
An other area that SCO had good penatratrion in is resturants, multiple waitress stations intputing orders with touch screens and swipe cards.
This potentialy includes all of the shell scripts included in both unix and linux, the file layouts, maybe they are saying the a fs that's /lib /usr /usr/home /etc /var
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is part of the copyright/trade Secret/whatever
I don't think so, who ever bought the rights to unix Source code that SCO claims to own, would probably buy the NDA's also, no sense in buying copyrights, trade secrets, and trademarks ect unless you can control them.
IANAL but the way I read it is if you sign, you cannot disclose anything that SCO relieved to you, even if you've seen it before. Particaly speaking if SCO stole or devised independently YOUR code, placed it in the relieved code, you could no longer distribute the code that they stole or devised independently without breaching the NDA. Nothing to gain, every thing to lose.
it might be a mote point, consider this IBM signed a NDA with SCO for unix source code that SCO provided to them,
1. if SCO doesn't really own the rights to the code, is IBM still in breach of the NDA for releasing the code into Linux? could be you'd have to go through the contact with a fine tooth comb, and check tonnes of case law to know,
2. hypotheticaly an IBM employee that never had access to the unix code is working on the linux code unknowingly releases identical unix code to linux, is IBM (the corp. entity that signed the NDA) in breach of its NDA?
gee I'm glad IMNAL here!
Having used the Military Grid system in the Army I can vouche that'll work for addressing, the only problem I could see with using it instead of zip codes ect is these code are tyed to post offices, and delivery routes rather than locations resulting in things like 16 T CP 12345 67890 needing to go through one post office but 16 T CP 12355 67890, a location only 10 meters away might need to go through a different post office. Developed countries could easily crunch the routing data with database, but less developed places might not even be able to keep a paper lookup table from jungle-rotting away!
10 alpha-numeric characters to resolve a whole quadrangle? that's 1 Km square or one Million square meters, give me a break, The military grid system resolves to a 100 M square with 9 charecters with the last 6 as digits, and to a 10M square with 11 and the last eight being digits. If you need more resolution that that add 2 more and we're talking down to the meter squared with thirteen.
Actual since the circumference of the earth is approx 40075155 Meters any position can be described with 6 base 32 digits; the alphanumeric character less I L O Z to avoid confusion with number would suffice.