Clearing fire breaks with explosive is likely to be disappointing, to drop a tree you want to place a 1 pound block of TNT or C4 on the side of the tree you want it to fall in then wrap Det cord around the tree and TNT 10 times, then run the det cord up the tree about 8 feet to a 1 pound kicker charge on the side away from where you want the tree to fall. While I love blowing shit up, a chainsaw is faster and easier. Something like a Bangalore torpedo would knock out a short section of brush to 3 or 4 m wide.
Great Lakes had 5.3% ice cover on May 15th, totally insane, lake Huron still looks like a parking lot just north of Port Huron because they can't get through the Sault Ste. Marie locks to get into Superior. The local farmers have just turned over the fields on corn rotation, hoping the reduced albedo will warm up the ground enough to plant, corn will not germinate until the ground is up to 50F, everything is way late this year. Now when I say "weather is not climate" I add "I hope".
My understanding is the ice is flowing down hill into the ocean, forming the Ross Ice Shelf, parts of the glacier that's over land is actually below sea-level, and in the past scientists were argueing over whether the sea-level would drop as sea water filled the depression left by the glacier. The melting is caused by a combination of warm sea currents and newly discovered underwater volcanoes.
Antarctica is a desert only getting 8 inches of precipitation on the coast and 4 inches at the pole so any losses add up quick. While Ice is unlikely to melt, it does sublimate, put a tray of ice cubes in the freezer for a few months and see how much they shrink.
I'm sure you vastly underestimate the amount of heat required to raise sea-levels that much by melting ice. consider 7 feet in the next 86 years. or 2,133.6 mm, 1 mm / (2.78 microns / Gt) = 10-3 m / (2.78 x 10-6 m / Gt) = 360 Gt, Conversion factors for ice and water mass and volume, 2133.6mm * 360 GT/mm = 768,096 GT, 334 Kj/Kg, 10^12 kg = 1 GT; 768,096 GT * 334*10^12 Kj/GT = 2.56544064e+20 Kj OR 61,315,502,868.069 kT nuclear explosion!
If your asking about the rise in sea-level its after adjustment; and the adjustments have been bumped up a couple times, Watts published an article on it with lots of links to the "value added product" over at CU Sea Level Research Unit if you want to crunch data on your own.
Results indicate that most recession occurred during the middle to late Holocene in the absence of substantial sea level or climate forcing. Current grounding-line retreat may reflect ongoing ice recession that has been under way since the early Holocene. If so, the WAIS could continue to retreat even in the absence of further external forcing Past and Future Grounding-Line Retreat of the West Antarctic Ice Sheet H. Conway1, B. L. Hall2,3, G. H. Denton2, A. M. Gades1, E. D. Waddington1 Science 8 October 1999: 280-283. [DOI:10.1126/science.286.5438.280]
So this chunk of ice has beem falling into the sea for the past 20,000 years, we've known about it for 15 years, but now it's a revelation of thermagedon!
because sooner or later somebody is going to take the pills out of the very obvious manufactureer's bottle and either swallow some or repackage them, (probably both) and when they do pop goes the dye pack.
The difference comes from the fact that when this happens in the USA the cops shoot to kill. When this happens in Finland they shoot to incapacate(in the leg etc.)..or they don't shoot at all and instead take cover and negotiate the guy into dropping the gun.
If the Police are not shooting to kill, then they have insuffienct fear of loss of life or limb to shoot at all. A person can bleed out scary fast when there is a though hole in the femoral artery.
When I was stationed in Germany we were taught that the Polezie will shoot you in the back if you are running, they order you to halt and you don't, that was in the 1974-77. The Polezie were armed with 9MM pistols, at airports they carried submachine gun and the Border patrol had armored personnel carriers.
Well the US is fairly unique as the rights and privileges of sovereignty are granted to the Government by the Governed, where in European Countries the opposite is true, soveignty is granted by God, throught the Church to the King and the people were chattle. The Monarchs didn't have to say "you're not allowed to have guns" because the default is all rights and privileges are deigned unless specifically allowed by the Sovereign; which in Europe is the Government, and in the US is the people.
I've seen the code for one model, it was a while back but it was an obvious mess. The guys that write this stuff are mostly Phd candidates in something other than sofware engineering; usually they slave away on the code for a while then somebody else gets stuck on it. How much of the other 95 models currently used are available to "People who just want to tear it apart" I have no idea, but a lot more than most regulars realize especially if you don't mind having a previous version GISS Model II GCM is available for enquiring mind to play with.
The Gobal cooling "hysertia" of the 1970's was mainly a couple scientists musings getting blown out of proportion by scientifically illiterate reporters reporting on science. At the time it seemed quaint, kind of like reading the cover of the National Enquirer is quaint while wating in line at the grocery store. It got more milage around the water cooler than in the journals.
Freeman dyson is not a climate scientist, his opinion on the matter carries no more weight than the postman.
Michael E. Mann is credentialed in physics, geology & geophysics James Hansen is credentialed in Astronomy & Physics Phil Jones is credentialed in Hydrology Richard A. Muller is credentialed in physics, Benjamin D. Santer Actually has a PhD in Climatolgy, he the guy that said if warming stalls for 17 year, AGW hypothesis is falsified Gavin A. Schmidt PhD in applied mathematics but it seems nothing in science Stefan Rahmstorf Ph.D. in oceanography, but since his area of interest is how ocean currents effect climate, he should be competant.
Very few climatologist have degrees in climatology, do their opinions on the matter carry no more weight than the postman?
If those experts actually have a point, anything that can be described as a small lifestyle change will be as effective as trying to put out a fire with gasoline.
Wine Grapes growing in England isn't exceptional, I've grown grown wine grapes in Michigan back when the newpapers were reporting predictions of a coming Ice-Age. When wine grapes stop growing in England we have a problem; the World will not end in fire, it'll end in ice.
atmospheric water vapour has increased by about 4% since the 70's. The more warming, the more water vapour the atmosphere will hold. Water vapour is a powerful greenhouse gas.
And Water vapor transport vast amounts of heat from the surface to high altitudes and clouds are a great reflector of short-wave light reducing the amount of short-wave light to be re-radiated as long-wave IR; whether water vapor is a positive or a negative feedback is a point of contention.
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Clearing fire breaks with explosive is likely to be disappointing, to drop a tree you want to place a 1 pound block of TNT or C4 on the side of the tree you want it to fall in then wrap Det cord around the tree and TNT 10 times, then run the det cord up the tree about 8 feet to a 1 pound kicker charge on the side away from where you want the tree to fall. While I love blowing shit up, a chainsaw is faster and easier.
Something like a Bangalore torpedo would knock out a short section of brush to 3 or 4 m wide.
Yeah but firenadoes, now that's some kick-ass bad shit.
There aren't many places that have the protocols and skills to handle energetic materials safely.
All they have to do is watches a Mythbuster's marathon and they'd know what not to do.
Pump enough current through and just about anything will smoke, shorting out a 200 amp mains feed will do it PDQ.
Great Lakes had 5.3% ice cover on May 15th, totally insane, lake Huron still looks like a parking lot just north of Port Huron because they can't get through the Sault Ste. Marie locks to get into Superior. The local farmers have just turned over the fields on corn rotation, hoping the reduced albedo will warm up the ground enough to plant, corn will not germinate until the ground is up to 50F, everything is way late this year. Now when I say "weather is not climate" I add "I hope".
My understanding is the ice is flowing down hill into the ocean, forming the Ross Ice Shelf, parts of the glacier that's over land is actually below sea-level, and in the past scientists were argueing over whether the sea-level would drop as sea water filled the depression left by the glacier. The melting is caused by a combination of warm sea currents and newly discovered underwater volcanoes.
Antarctica is a desert only getting 8 inches of precipitation on the coast and 4 inches at the pole so any losses add up quick. While Ice is unlikely to melt, it does sublimate, put a tray of ice cubes in the freezer for a few months and see how much they shrink.
You forgot to say that the collapse has been going on for 22,000 years!
I'm sure you vastly underestimate the amount of heat required to raise sea-levels that much by melting ice.
consider 7 feet in the next 86 years. or 2,133.6 mm,
1 mm / (2.78 microns / Gt) = 10-3 m / (2.78 x 10-6 m / Gt) = 360 Gt, Conversion factors for ice and water mass and volume,
2133.6mm * 360 GT/mm = 768,096 GT,
334 Kj/Kg, 10^12 kg = 1 GT;
768,096 GT * 334*10^12 Kj/GT = 2.56544064e+20 Kj OR 61,315,502,868.069 kT nuclear explosion!
If your asking about the rise in sea-level its after adjustment; and the adjustments have been bumped up a couple times, Watts published an article on it with lots of links to the "value added product" over at CU Sea Level Research Unit if you want to crunch data on your own.
So this chunk of ice has beem falling into the sea for the past 20,000 years, we've known about it for 15 years, but now it's a revelation of thermagedon!
You may have been modded flamebait, but I think insightfully funny would be more apropos.
because sooner or later somebody is going to take the pills out of the very obvious manufactureer's bottle and either swallow some or repackage them, (probably both) and when they do pop goes the dye pack.
Dye packets in the bottles, like they use in Bank robberies would be interesting as well.
The difference comes from the fact that when this happens in the USA the cops shoot to kill. When this happens in Finland they shoot to incapacate(in the leg etc.)..or they don't shoot at all and instead take cover and negotiate the guy into dropping the gun.
If the Police are not shooting to kill, then they have insuffienct fear of loss of life or limb to shoot at all. A person can bleed out scary fast when there is a though hole in the femoral artery.
When I was stationed in Germany we were taught that the Polezie will shoot you in the back if you are running, they order you to halt and you don't, that was in the 1974-77. The Polezie were armed with 9MM pistols, at airports they carried submachine gun and the Border patrol had armored personnel carriers.
Well the US is fairly unique as the rights and privileges of sovereignty are granted to the Government by the Governed, where in European Countries the opposite is true, soveignty is granted by God, throught the Church to the King and the people were chattle. The Monarchs didn't have to say "you're not allowed to have guns" because the default is all rights and privileges are deigned unless specifically allowed by the Sovereign; which in Europe is the Government, and in the US is the people.
I've seen the code for one model, it was a while back but it was an obvious mess. The guys that write this stuff are mostly Phd candidates in something other than sofware engineering; usually they slave away on the code for a while then somebody else gets stuck on it. How much of the other 95 models currently used are available to "People who just want to tear it apart" I have no idea, but a lot more than most regulars realize especially if you don't mind having a previous version GISS Model II GCM is available for enquiring mind to play with.
The Gobal cooling "hysertia" of the 1970's was mainly a couple scientists musings getting blown out of proportion by scientifically illiterate reporters reporting on science. At the time it seemed quaint, kind of like reading the cover of the National Enquirer is quaint while wating in line at the grocery store. It got more milage around the water cooler than in the journals.
Freeman dyson is not a climate scientist, his opinion on the matter carries no more weight than the postman.
Michael E. Mann is credentialed in physics, geology & geophysics
James Hansen is credentialed in Astronomy & Physics
Phil Jones is credentialed in Hydrology
Richard A. Muller is credentialed in physics,
Benjamin D. Santer Actually has a PhD in Climatolgy, he the guy that said if warming stalls for 17 year, AGW hypothesis is falsified
Gavin A. Schmidt PhD in applied mathematics but it seems nothing in science
Stefan Rahmstorf Ph.D. in oceanography, but since his area of interest is how ocean currents effect climate, he should be competant.
Very few climatologist have degrees in climatology, do their opinions on the matter carry no more weight than the postman?
If those experts actually have a point, anything that can be described as a small lifestyle change will be as effective as trying to put out a fire with gasoline.
Insightful but I'm not sure which side your referring to.
Wine Grapes growing in England isn't exceptional, I've grown grown wine grapes in Michigan back when the newpapers were reporting predictions of a coming Ice-Age. When wine grapes stop growing in England we have a problem; the World will not end in fire, it'll end in ice.
I think you've been consorting with Lewandowski and his minions too long.
atmospheric water vapour has increased by about 4% since the 70's. The more warming, the more water vapour the atmosphere will hold. Water vapour is a powerful greenhouse gas.
And Water vapor transport vast amounts of heat from the surface to high altitudes and clouds are a great reflector of short-wave light reducing the amount of short-wave light to be re-radiated as long-wave IR; whether water vapor is a positive or a negative feedback is a point of contention.
Even the Alarmists at Real Climate don't support Arctic methane tripping points.