I agree that getting the fix out so fast is indeed cool. The point is that the *next* bug in IE (and outlook!) will grant root^H^H^H^Hadministrator access to l337 hackers. Both open and close source programs have bugs; what's worth bitching about is the MS *philosophy* of running a web browser in kernel space. And this *does* affect *nix users, just as surely as a hole in the sun affects nocturnal animals.
It would be taking a moral stand just like refusing to help distribute faulty medical equipment would. I'm being serious. You can do better. You wouldn't be bringing anything good to the world by staying. Do good to the world.
In fact, while I have no numbers to back it up, my experience suggests NT sysadmins are MORE likely to be running patched systems than UNIX sysadmins...
Yeah; because the number of holes found in unix systems is so much smaller!
The origional poster is right; monkeys make bad sys-admins. NT just makes it easier to be a monkey.
There was no "key" with the enigma machine either, so I guess that wasn't encryption. And this whole time, I had thought it was some kind of big deal....
I don't think even Blizzard claims that they own the word "diablo." But, for example, let's say this movie has a plot that borrows from the game's theme. Wouldn't it be wrong for them use all the money Blizzard has put into hyping their game for their own profit?
Unfotunately, I think this case has to fall into one of those "judgement calls" by some judge as to how legitimate the effort of the movie maker is at making a distinct piece of work.
I can also see myself replying to what I just wrote with flame....*sigh*
-troll-
Fantastic! I hope all the click-through idiots get what the deserve! I support any software system that takes advantage of clueless users. It's digital Darwinism! All these people who get all up-in-arms about the latest privacy threat to idiots who don't know any better make me want to puke. The people who want to be sheep will be sheep, and the rest of us will laugh ever time we hear it.
-/troll-
This was destined to happen from day one. Napster is a business. Napster cannot be, in the long run, a free service that helps people pirate mp3s. (Yes, that is what it primarily does.)
Yes, I'll miss napster. Yes, this sucks. But I'm tired of people acting all hurt and betrayed....
Ever listen to grandpa complain about how they don't make 'em like they used to? The truth or falsity of that aside; the reason grandpa says that is primarily because things are *different*, and people don't like change.
Similarly, people like me who grow up playing the 2600 find newer games lacking...but it's because they're not what I'm used to. If you're over 20 years old, you're a grandpa when it comes to computer games:)
I am glad to see them considering this move, and on the whole I think it would be a good thing. However; I think this could have a very bad effect on geeks getting into UC*.
(I know I'm generalizing here, but bare with me.)
Most geeks I know are the type who slack off in High School, but since they're smart they get decent (not spectacular) grades. Then, when it is time to take the ?CT, they kick major ass, beat all the "smart" people at school, and get good chances to go to college based in large part on their test score. That was my story to some extent.
The good thing about the ACT/SAT is that it can give people who are smart but undermotivated a second chance. There are a *lot* of bad things about it (especially how it effects minorities), but throwing it away lessesn the chances of the undermotivated hacker.
People said the same things when VCR's came out. You're being short-sighted. The American ideal is that it *should* be easy to commit crimes...it's called "liberty." Furthermore, the American ideal holds that the chance to commit crime outweighs the loss of freedom it incurs.
Your comment on the law fixing this problem is also crap. How is having a special law against internet copyright going to change people trading mp3s? Are you seriously suggesting that the punishment for dl'ing an MP3 should be severe enough to make people afraid to do it? Or are you suggesting that we pass laws to take away our privacy so that we can't do it in the first place?
Trying to make special laws for the internet is a mistake. Laws should reflect principles that have nothing to do with the medium in which they are expressed. If it's illegal to be in possesion of copyrighted material without permission, then it's illegal; why do you need a special law that addresses the "internet version"? All these laws do is serve to defame "hackers" and other elements of the internet that the people in Washington hopelessly misunderstand.
I'm not a christian, but I thought quoting Jesus would be appropriate here:
From Matthew:
5:27:: Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery:
5:28:: But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.
My point: Adultry is about emotional betrayal, not physical.
I can't tell you how cool maildir is...I hadn't been exposed to it before my current mail account. It's the ideal hook for a programatic interface of your own design, i.e., you get to use the file system as your friend, not your enemy. Perfect for true hackers:)
...slashdot was a bunch of linux hackers in Holland, Michigan, not cnn.com! Who the hell are you to say that CmdrTaco is bound to some journalistic standard? Indeed, he pissed me off, but it's his web site!
I agree that Microsoft is a very important force for people to deal with in the real world. But, all that aside, here in my non-real college student world, I am *very* interested to read that MS is having DNS problems because it makes me HAPPY! I am very happy to see just about anything go wrong at the Empire, and I think a lot of/.'ers feel the same way. Their DNS problem is going to make me smile all the way through my networking class!:>
I'm a graduate student in computer science. I definately think that I could have pitched school after sophomore year and been a fine industry computer person. Being a CS, CIS, MIS, Software Engineer, whatever, doesn't really matter. A big part of the reason they have these degrees in the first place is to be a measure of your determination. Company X likes you to have a degree because it "proves" you are *determined* enough to pass calculus. Are you?
Personal bias aside (heh), what considerations should a person take into account when chosing between OpenBSD and another free operating system which shall remain nameless?
Slashdot Mirror
It's a lot more 31337 to have your computer work on hax0r-made problems like RC5. What does cancer have to do with 31337?
I was about to mail my graphic professor.
IHBT
(I have been trolled)
I agree that getting the fix out so fast is indeed cool. The point is that the *next* bug in IE (and outlook!) will grant root^H^H^H^Hadministrator access to l337 hackers. Both open and close source programs have bugs; what's worth bitching about is the MS *philosophy* of running a web browser in kernel space. And this *does* affect *nix users, just as surely as a hole in the sun affects nocturnal animals.
It would be taking a moral stand just like refusing to help distribute faulty medical equipment would. I'm being serious. You can do better. You wouldn't be bringing anything good to the world by staying. Do good to the world.
In fact, while I have no numbers to back it up, my experience suggests NT sysadmins are MORE likely to be running patched systems than UNIX sysadmins...
Yeah; because the number of holes found in unix systems is so much smaller!
The origional poster is right; monkeys make bad sys-admins. NT just makes it easier to be a monkey.
Can't you do a benchmark in a country where the no-benchmarking clause is not legal and publish the results here?
There was no "key" with the enigma machine either, so I guess that wasn't encryption. And this whole time, I had thought it was some kind of big deal....
These blokes have gone full blommin' mad!
I don't think even Blizzard claims that they own the word "diablo." But, for example, let's say this movie has a plot that borrows from the game's theme. Wouldn't it be wrong for them use all the money Blizzard has put into hyping their game for their own profit?
Unfotunately, I think this case has to fall into one of those "judgement calls" by some judge as to how legitimate the effort of the movie maker is at making a distinct piece of work.
I can also see myself replying to what I just wrote with flame....*sigh*
-troll-
Fantastic! I hope all the click-through idiots get what the deserve! I support any software system that takes advantage of clueless users. It's digital Darwinism! All these people who get all up-in-arms about the latest privacy threat to idiots who don't know any better make me want to puke. The people who want to be sheep will be sheep, and the rest of us will laugh ever time we hear it.
-/troll-
This was destined to happen from day one. Napster is a business. Napster cannot be, in the long run, a free service that helps people pirate mp3s. (Yes, that is what it primarily does.)
Yes, I'll miss napster. Yes, this sucks. But I'm tired of people acting all hurt and betrayed....
Ever listen to grandpa complain about how they don't make 'em like they used to? The truth or falsity of that aside; the reason grandpa says that is primarily because things are *different*, and people don't like change.
:)
Similarly, people like me who grow up playing the 2600 find newer games lacking...but it's because they're not what I'm used to. If you're over 20 years old, you're a grandpa when it comes to computer games
I am glad to see them considering this move, and on the whole I think it would be a good thing. However; I think this could have a very bad effect on geeks getting into UC*.
(I know I'm generalizing here, but bare with me.)
Most geeks I know are the type who slack off in High School, but since they're smart they get decent (not spectacular) grades. Then, when it is time to take the ?CT, they kick major ass, beat all the "smart" people at school, and get good chances to go to college based in large part on their test score. That was my story to some extent.
The good thing about the ACT/SAT is that it can give people who are smart but undermotivated a second chance. There are a *lot* of bad things about it (especially how it effects minorities), but throwing it away lessesn the chances of the undermotivated hacker.
People said the same things when VCR's came out. You're being short-sighted. The American ideal is that it *should* be easy to commit crimes...it's called "liberty." Furthermore, the American ideal holds that the chance to commit crime outweighs the loss of freedom it incurs.
Your comment on the law fixing this problem is also crap. How is having a special law against internet copyright going to change people trading mp3s? Are you seriously suggesting that the punishment for dl'ing an MP3 should be severe enough to make people afraid to do it? Or are you suggesting that we pass laws to take away our privacy so that we can't do it in the first place?
Trying to make special laws for the internet is a mistake. Laws should reflect principles that have nothing to do with the medium in which they are expressed. If it's illegal to be in possesion of copyrighted material without permission, then it's illegal; why do you need a special law that addresses the "internet version"? All these laws do is serve to defame "hackers" and other elements of the internet that the people in Washington hopelessly misunderstand.
I'm not a christian, but I thought quoting Jesus would be appropriate here:
:: Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery:
:: But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.
From Matthew:
5:27
5:28
My point: Adultry is about emotional betrayal, not physical.
"Whoever has the most money when the die, wins."
I can't tell you how cool maildir is...I hadn't been exposed to it before my current mail account. It's the ideal hook for a programatic interface of your own design, i.e., you get to use the file system as your friend, not your enemy. Perfect for true hackers :)
Mike
(from nasa's web site)
T+1:13............PLT..... Uhoh.
: |
...slashdot was a bunch of linux hackers in Holland, Michigan, not cnn.com! Who the hell are you to say that CmdrTaco is bound to some journalistic standard? Indeed, he pissed me off, but it's his web site!
I agree that Microsoft is a very important force for people to deal with in the real world. But, all that aside, here in my non-real college student world, I am *very* interested to read that MS is having DNS problems because it makes me HAPPY! I am very happy to see just about anything go wrong at the Empire, and I think a lot of /.'ers feel the same way. Their DNS problem is going to make me smile all the way through my networking class! :>
I'm a graduate student in computer science. I definately think that I could have pitched school after sophomore year and been a fine industry computer person. Being a CS, CIS, MIS, Software Engineer, whatever, doesn't really matter. A big part of the reason they have these degrees in the first place is to be a measure of your determination. Company X likes you to have a degree because it "proves" you are *determined* enough to pass calculus. Are you?
...just imagine what kind of resolution they have for themselves :>
I'm all for open source advocacy and gdb, etc...but telling someone who is trying to debug their huge MT app to "write a patch!" is ridiculous.
Personal bias aside (heh), what considerations should a person take into account when chosing between OpenBSD and another free operating system which shall remain nameless?