>Patriot Act was a gift in perpetuity from your Bush.
Bush didn't put the patriot act into effect alone. Complicit was congress, then and current, as well as Obama, and everyone else.
the Democrats have to figure out who they are going to listen to, the people who will mock them for "being weak on national security", and the people who will mock them for being "weak on essential Freedoms and Liberties". The two are not compatible. The second group got him elected in 2008, and is steadily growing because more and more people are starting to wake up to the scam the war on terror is. The more and more Obama sounds like Bush, the more and more his popularity begins to mimmick his in the second term.
Next when all the kids you've duped get ansy, you blame our own supporters for not working hard enough to support a canidate that doesn't share their values, at least not when it comes with legislation or actions. They excpect blind loyalty from their followers but give none of it back.
I couldn't count the number of times, that some democrat gets on a holy than thou speach, or gives a general call to "declare war", spy on, harrass, arrest, target with drones their political opponents in the democratic party, but at the same time take up many of the same issues, and label anyone an extremist not willing to compromise when expecting them to do the least show either some principle or very least not sell us all out for the whatever harry ried's corporate sponsers want this week. I'm supposed go almost to the brink of a starting a civil war in my own country, for some jackasses who can't eat their own dogfood.
There were only a handful of people who opposed the patriot act, and only a few more who did so actively. They are at the fringes of both parties. anyone who says otherwise is fucking lying.
>They're like old USSR communist party, only instead of one "party of power" they made two.
if the concept its a one party state, who's rule isn't questionable, yes, but unlike the CCCP, its a federation of many diffrent, often competing intrests, instead of a unified voice.
The democratic and republic, and even invidual senators/representatives represent diffrent industries, companies, or even other intrests like foreign nation states. What you see as "politics" is those intrests coliding with eachother, or the morals and personal intrest of a handful of powerful individuals thrown in.
A company that isn't overly involved is ripe target for harrassment by other companies seeking to take advantage of them by manipulating the system.
Hence what I meant when we have an upper class of capitalists who negiotiate intrests between themselves via representation, hence capitalist republic. Like the roman republic was a democracy of elites, so too is the US.
And it always was this way, even worse. If you read the constitution, its why the senate wasn't designed to be popularily elected, but appointed, and why the president was designed to be elected by "electors". Commoners were designed to have a readily overridable voice in the house of comm,err house of representatives.
no, your right, fuck free speech, and democracy, and human rights, perhaps law which exists to help anyone besides lawyers, or any bit of social reform which isn't a thinly veiled ploy to feed endless amount of lawyers. I was wrong, I mean the war on drugs really isn't a big issue, niether is the endless drone bombings, illegal detentions. I should probably get my priorities in check, net neutrality, and with it a Free internet, where people can start their own fucking movements with their own ideas is overrated. From now on in, I'll simply believe whatever proffesional activist celebrities tell me I need to beleive in, and buy all their products.
After all the war on drugs is something that only lazy rich white college kids care about. Its virtually racist to waste time instead of helping hard working minorities.
well hey, don't blame the dems for throwing people away, for paid corporate(RIAA,MPAA,trial lawyers,celebrities), and get mad when they leave.
The dems are responsible for promoting Harry Reid to a leadership post.
While I'm not sold on trickle down economics, the gold standard, capitalism or 19th century economic policies, I might as well stick with the libertarian right politically, because the dems never gave me a reason to take them any one bit seriously.
I am pissing myself laughing actually. Between this Chucklehead and Chris "do as I say, not as I do" Dodd, the democrats are scratching their heads wondering where there credibility is. Its not the so called "fringe" canidates, Its not the out and out socialists. Its the proggressives and their blatant corporate and special intrests.
If they actually had a populist movement, they wouldn't have to worry about midterm elections.
> I have no doubt that they were the best personal computers around. I used them.
apple was a cult even back then. macfags were always macfags.
Apples pre-osx were fairly garbage. they had a reputation for being "better with graphics", that was long obsolete by the time the first AGP video cards came around, and they were behind in many issues such as not having shared libraries, and frequent crashes between conflicting programs and extensions.
By the time 3d accelerators and sound blasters came standard on PCs(sound blaster always had better sound than whatever mac stapled on), and the beginning of the nVidia/ATI wars, macs were left in the dust capability wise.
But you had a small loyal, fanatical group, mostly tech illiterate that bought into the marketing hype.
>That being said, Russia's economy looked good post war because of a massive military-industrial complex. Unlike the west, they didn't stop making tanks, bombers, fighters and rifles after the war... they ramped it up to 11
the United States never stopped making tanks, bombers, fighters, rifles.
Today, we have by far the largest military in the world, the majority of all types of heavy equipment and vehicles, such as aircraft carreiers, etc...
facebook has been caugh manipulating likes before, and gaming who and what becomes trendy on facebook, so its not unlikely that facebook at some point will start actively(and queitly) policing content to make voters more affable to their political positions, as well as their advertisers content, advertisers content, being whatever politicians pay them to make their opinions popular.
Of course to help manipulation, you are required to use your real name, facebook grabs your location, and tracks your habbits. All of this information gets put into a database come election time. They can find your greatest fears and weaknesses and use them to ply you to do your bidding. They will get in your head. They will use you friends to manipulate you.
They are getting your information from google and facebook who volunteer the database of personal information they have compiled on you.
I've also been harrassed by democratic party activists in real life. They even used a few of my old friend's they converted.
I'll be honest, I might be receptive to a handful of their political ideas, but I feel like I live in a police state where I have had people I used to trust spy on me for soley political purposes.
If this wasn't bad, its the language some of these people use when on other social networking, and other sites with political discussion, they are the first to deviate from the issues. They use loaded language, and repeat claims that they want to lock up opposition. They are very suspicous, and even the slightest deviation from their platform they will attack, in every offense way up to, but exlcuding violence to punish people who step out of line. if you are to the "right" of their position, your a "republican agent", to the "left", a "dangerous extremist", of both which they openly declare their desire to arrest and harrass by any means neccary.
They are fairly comfortable with doublespeak, and have one set of values in public, another in private, and the two get further everytime I run into one.
I'm not a radical because I want to be, or because I think its cool, or any romantic notion. I am a radical because I have no other options really. I am not a radical because I encourage political violence, or spying, or malice, but because I am opposed to it. I am not a radical because I am an extremist, but because I'm not an extremist. I am a radical because its the only way I could really be honest about myself, and the political system of the United States of America. The system has failed. We have a paper democracy, but the net effect is at least one major party(potentially two, I never had any real run ins with the republicans), has their own private gestapo. They use language like war, spies, double agents, and most important "enemy" to describe the opposition in a supposedly democratic system. Most of these people are white privledged hipsters who never been to war, and many if not most would never hack in the army.(I have, I came back home to this.).
We are not free. We do not have in effect open elections. We don't have rights, we have privledges the government can wave at any time under either "homeland security", or "the war on drugs", even if we are not terrorists or drug dealers.
The Russians as a whole defeated the nazis. Stalin's incompetence did nothing more than spill more Russian blood. WIth someone more competiant, the Soviets would have had less casualties and conquered more of europe.
>Neither. I'm trying to point out that, in certain social circles, it is perfectly acceptable to physically gay bash.
but you used the term decent law abiding citizens to describe them. There is nowhere ever which it was every *legal* to physically gay bash. Social circles where breaking the law is acceptable are not decent or law abiding. They are criminals, social circles of criminals are known as gangs.
Beyond legal, this activity was never morally acceptable in greater society. You used the terms law abiding and decent, something that people who physically gay bash never were.
>Some countries are passing laws that codify gay bashing.
assault and murder where never legal, regardless of homosexuality's legal status. Even if homosexaulity was a crime, vigilante murders were never legal, anywhere.
are you making the argument that homosexuality makes someone indecent or not law abiding, or the fact that someone who beats someone to death with a pistol is a decent and law abiding citizen?
in the USA it was a mental disorder until 1973, and pre-reform, it was possible simply to arrest, imprison, and drug people under the suspicion of being mentally ill, which served as a code name for all sorts of social disobeince.
Homosexuality was also a felony everywhere in the US until 1970s, and homosexual acts were still criminal, even if rarely enforced until a supreme court ruling in 2003 making the remaining states with criminalized sodomy unconstitutional.
10 states still have anti-sodomy laws on the books, even if they are not enforcable.
as well as IP source address, and with that, an ISP name, and localtion down to city. That can tell someone what network to sniff if they want your personal information.
the fact that its possible to calculate that far into an onion's address should make you cautious of the technology. While its unlikely that an ameture is going to crack a tor address/key, it now seems very likely that someone with enough rackspace, and the ability to make custom ASICs for the proccess could do so.(if cryptocurrencies can make asics, why can't people wanting to smash crypto do the same. similar tech, and especially if your a large company/government, buying them in bulk shouldn't be a problem)
its also know that facebook buys custom chips from intel who makes them with extra database specific functions built in, and intel now sells the service to any high volume buyer willing to pay extra.
Its not unreasonable to say tor is broken until they move to 4096 bit keypairs.
not really. FedEx has delivered plenty of packages to my door. There would be nothing in stopping anyone from sending me a letter via FedEX.(except price I guess)
UPS and Fedex don't do regular routes some places because they'd loose money. Heck, the USPS looses money delivering mail. If there was no USPS, some places simply would not be able to recieve mail anymore.
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>Some minor or major terrorist incident happens
actually scared of terrists. 2014.
>Patriot Act was a gift in perpetuity from your Bush.
Bush didn't put the patriot act into effect alone. Complicit was congress, then and current, as well as Obama, and everyone else.
the Democrats have to figure out who they are going to listen to, the people who will mock them for "being weak on national security", and the people who will mock them for being "weak on essential Freedoms and Liberties". The two are not compatible. The second group got him elected in 2008, and is steadily growing because more and more people are starting to wake up to the scam the war on terror is. The more and more Obama sounds like Bush, the more and more his popularity begins to mimmick his in the second term.
Next when all the kids you've duped get ansy, you blame our own supporters for not working hard enough to support a canidate that doesn't share their values, at least not when it comes with legislation or actions. They excpect blind loyalty from their followers but give none of it back.
I couldn't count the number of times, that some democrat gets on a holy than thou speach, or gives a general call to "declare war", spy on, harrass, arrest, target with drones their political opponents in the democratic party, but at the same time take up many of the same issues, and label anyone an extremist not willing to compromise when expecting them to do the least show either some principle or very least not sell us all out for the whatever harry ried's corporate sponsers want this week. I'm supposed go almost to the brink of a starting a civil war in my own country, for some jackasses who can't eat their own dogfood.
There were only a handful of people who opposed the patriot act, and only a few more who did so actively. They are at the fringes of both parties. anyone who says otherwise is fucking lying.
the economist is basicly as you'd expect a capitalist/"business conservative" op-ed magazine.
I do concede its well written, but its just that, an conservative op-ed magazine. Its not news.
>They're like old USSR communist party, only instead of one "party of power" they made two.
if the concept its a one party state, who's rule isn't questionable, yes, but unlike the CCCP, its a federation of many diffrent, often competing intrests, instead of a unified voice.
The democratic and republic, and even invidual senators/representatives represent diffrent industries, companies, or even other intrests like foreign nation states. What you see as "politics" is those intrests coliding with eachother, or the morals and personal intrest of a handful of powerful individuals thrown in.
A company that isn't overly involved is ripe target for harrassment by other companies seeking to take advantage of them by manipulating the system.
Hence what I meant when we have an upper class of capitalists who negiotiate intrests between themselves via representation, hence capitalist republic. Like the roman republic was a democracy of elites, so too is the US.
And it always was this way, even worse. If you read the constitution, its why the senate wasn't designed to be popularily elected, but appointed, and why the president was designed to be elected by "electors". Commoners were designed to have a readily overridable voice in the house of comm,err house of representatives.
no, your right, fuck free speech, and democracy, and human rights, perhaps law which exists to help anyone besides lawyers, or any bit of social reform which isn't a thinly veiled ploy to feed endless amount of lawyers. I was wrong, I mean the war on drugs really isn't a big issue, niether is the endless drone bombings, illegal detentions. I should probably get my priorities in check, net neutrality, and with it a Free internet, where people can start their own fucking movements with their own ideas is overrated. From now on in, I'll simply believe whatever proffesional activist celebrities tell me I need to beleive in, and buy all their products.
After all the war on drugs is something that only lazy rich white college kids care about. Its virtually racist to waste time instead of helping hard working minorities.
well hey, don't blame the dems for throwing people away, for paid corporate(RIAA,MPAA,trial lawyers,celebrities), and get mad when they leave.
The dems are responsible for promoting Harry Reid to a leadership post.
While I'm not sold on trickle down economics, the gold standard, capitalism or 19th century economic policies, I might as well stick with the libertarian right politically, because the dems never gave me a reason to take them any one bit seriously.
If they want my vote they need to earn it.
I am pissing myself laughing actually. Between this Chucklehead and Chris "do as I say, not as I do" Dodd, the democrats are scratching their heads wondering where there credibility is. Its not the so called "fringe" canidates, Its not the out and out socialists. Its the proggressives and their blatant corporate and special intrests.
If they actually had a populist movement, they wouldn't have to worry about midterm elections.
> I have no doubt that they were the best personal computers around. I used them.
apple was a cult even back then. macfags were always macfags.
Apples pre-osx were fairly garbage. they had a reputation for being "better with graphics", that was long obsolete by the time the first AGP video cards came around, and they were behind in many issues such as not having shared libraries, and frequent crashes between conflicting programs and extensions.
By the time 3d accelerators and sound blasters came standard on PCs(sound blaster always had better sound than whatever mac stapled on), and the beginning of the nVidia/ATI wars, macs were left in the dust capability wise.
But you had a small loyal, fanatical group, mostly tech illiterate that bought into the marketing hype.
>That being said, Russia's economy looked good post war because of a massive military-industrial complex. Unlike the west, they didn't stop making tanks, bombers, fighters and rifles after the war... they ramped it up to 11
the United States never stopped making tanks, bombers, fighters, rifles.
Today, we have by far the largest military in the world, the majority of all types of heavy equipment and vehicles, such as aircraft carreiers, etc...
we already do. We cut checks for all kinds of unreasonable things and no one blinks and eye.
Something that might actually work? Nah, no one wants to pay for it.
facebook has been caugh manipulating likes before, and gaming who and what becomes trendy on facebook, so its not unlikely that facebook at some point will start actively(and queitly) policing content to make voters more affable to their political positions, as well as their advertisers content, advertisers content, being whatever politicians pay them to make their opinions popular.
Of course to help manipulation, you are required to use your real name, facebook grabs your location, and tracks your habbits. All of this information gets put into a database come election time. They can find your greatest fears and weaknesses and use them to ply you to do your bidding. They will get in your head. They will use you friends to manipulate you.
And guess how they are watching you?
They are getting your information from google and facebook who volunteer the database of personal information they have compiled on you.
I've also been harrassed by democratic party activists in real life. They even used a few of my old friend's they converted.
I'll be honest, I might be receptive to a handful of their political ideas, but I feel like I live in a police state where I have had people I used to trust spy on me for soley political purposes.
If this wasn't bad, its the language some of these people use when on other social networking, and other sites with political discussion, they are the first to deviate from the issues. They use loaded language, and repeat claims that they want to lock up opposition. They are very suspicous, and even the slightest deviation from their platform they will attack, in every offense way up to, but exlcuding violence to punish people who step out of line. if you are to the "right" of their position, your a "republican agent", to the "left", a "dangerous extremist", of both which they openly declare their desire to arrest and harrass by any means neccary.
They are fairly comfortable with doublespeak, and have one set of values in public, another in private, and the two get further everytime I run into one.
I'm not a radical because I want to be, or because I think its cool, or any romantic notion. I am a radical because I have no other options really. I am not a radical because I encourage political violence, or spying, or malice, but because I am opposed to it. I am not a radical because I am an extremist, but because I'm not an extremist. I am a radical because its the only way I could really be honest about myself, and the political system of the United States of America. The system has failed. We have a paper democracy, but the net effect is at least one major party(potentially two, I never had any real run ins with the republicans), has their own private gestapo. They use language like war, spies, double agents, and most important "enemy" to describe the opposition in a supposedly democratic system. Most of these people are white privledged hipsters who never been to war, and many if not most would never hack in the army.(I have, I came back home to this.).
We are not free. We do not have in effect open elections. We don't have rights, we have privledges the government can wave at any time under either "homeland security", or "the war on drugs", even if we are not terrorists or drug dealers.
bullshit. See post below.
The Russians as a whole defeated the nazis. Stalin's incompetence did nothing more than spill more Russian blood. WIth someone more competiant, the Soviets would have had less casualties and conquered more of europe.
This I understand, that if it was just facebook* I wouldn't be worried.
Its the fact that its facebookcorewww?, which bothers me, and the insinuation that both core and www are just random.
Then everyone started jumping down my throat with what I already know about onion addresses under a false pretext.
>Neither. I'm trying to point out that, in certain social circles, it is perfectly acceptable to physically gay bash.
but you used the term decent law abiding citizens to describe them. There is nowhere ever which it was every *legal* to physically gay bash. Social circles where breaking the law is acceptable are not decent or law abiding. They are criminals, social circles of criminals are known as gangs.
Beyond legal, this activity was never morally acceptable in greater society. You used the terms law abiding and decent, something that people who physically gay bash never were.
>Some countries are passing laws that codify gay bashing.
assault and murder where never legal, regardless of homosexuality's legal status. Even if homosexaulity was a crime, vigilante murders were never legal, anywhere.
We are talking about murderers here.
because being gay never hurt anyone.
being a pedophile did.
>And don't start in with the consenting adults bullshit
how is it bullshit? beastiality and pedphilia aren't sex between two consenting adults, there is victim.
pedophiles hurt people, but being gay hurts no one. I hope you see there is a huge diffrence.
are you making the argument that homosexuality makes someone indecent or not law abiding, or the fact that someone who beats someone to death with a pistol is a decent and law abiding citizen?
Somehow I do not follow?
in the USA it was a mental disorder until 1973, and pre-reform, it was possible simply to arrest, imprison, and drug people under the suspicion of being mentally ill, which served as a code name for all sorts of social disobeince.
Homosexuality was also a felony everywhere in the US until 1970s, and homosexual acts were still criminal, even if rarely enforced until a supreme court ruling in 2003 making the remaining states with criminalized sodomy unconstitutional.
10 states still have anti-sodomy laws on the books, even if they are not enforcable.
look again, its facebookcorewww, with just one character left random.
>yourself a cookie that identifies you to any website anywhere on the internet that has a facebook like button?
no script and private browsing.
If you haven't figured it out already, browse facebook in a private browsing/incognito window. If your not using FF or chrome/chromium, kill yourself.
Also, use https-everywhere, and noscript.
no one likes competition.
Don't imagine that burger king ever liked the fact McDonalds sold hamburgers
as well as IP source address, and with that, an ISP name, and localtion down to city. That can tell someone what network to sniff if they want your personal information.
>facebookcorewwwi.onion/
the fact that its possible to calculate that far into an onion's address should make you cautious of the technology. While its unlikely that an ameture is going to crack a tor address/key, it now seems very likely that someone with enough rackspace, and the ability to make custom ASICs for the proccess could do so.(if cryptocurrencies can make asics, why can't people wanting to smash crypto do the same. similar tech, and especially if your a large company/government, buying them in bulk shouldn't be a problem)
its also know that facebook buys custom chips from intel who makes them with extra database specific functions built in, and intel now sells the service to any high volume buyer willing to pay extra.
Its not unreasonable to say tor is broken until they move to 4096 bit keypairs.
not really. FedEx has delivered plenty of packages to my door. There would be nothing in stopping anyone from sending me a letter via FedEX.(except price I guess)
UPS and Fedex don't do regular routes some places because they'd loose money. Heck, the USPS looses money delivering mail. If there was no USPS, some places simply would not be able to recieve mail anymore.
excluding the obvious joke and satire canidates.
but here you go:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EcaX12h46k
its something new, and just like a jihad, not in holy scriptures.
Someone has to learn something new, and that pisses them off.