department of transportation? wait, RFID car tolls
department of education? wait, schools are run like prisons
Food and Drug Administration? Wait, they've made unreasonably expensive standards to get something approved, while at the same time letting dangerous chemicals on the market from large companies.
There are plenty of package deliever companies, that exist, and I don't think that any one of them would want to start a letter delievery company. The USPS looses lots of money on it, because of a dramatic decline in the amount of money that exists.
It says in "business" soley because it is chartered by the US Government. Speaking of Which, the Post Office is the only economic business activity authorized by dirrectly by the US constitution to run, and it does so as a service.
Then we get to the next item, privacy. You are pretty foolish if an American company would not be expected to search packages, or let government agents search packages at their request. You are also a bit of a fool to think that most wouldn't just silently co-operate, or that a corporation could actually do something if served with an FBI letter that says "co-operate and shut your mouth".
Corporation Charters are given out by the US government, and they have all the personal information on all of its officers to apply the right amount of pressure.
Its also foolish to think that even if they had a specific ability to, the government has spies, armies, etc, that a corporation does not have, and if they did, they'd become the government.
We can't even arrest spyware makers, spammers, and companies spying on you, but you can arrest some fucking kids for mucking around an exploring. Arrest is one thing. But given jail sentances on par with murder, for actions that are really no worse than distubing the peace, or disorderly conduct?
How about political activists doing the digital equivilant of an online sit in, facing charges be-fit a drug kingpin.
Lets also compare this to someone like Ray Rice who beat his fucking girlfriend. How much time did he get?
No, a long standing penchant for sticking up for a community being bullied is a good thing.
There is no pretense of democracy left, because it would be horribly embarassing when democracies didn't break out. I think we are back to "git teh terrists", and "they say bad things about the US".
durring the fappening, there was non-stop butthurt from the mainstream liberal establishment rushing to protect celebrity actor women against the anonymous hoarde of basement dwellers.
Where are they now. its some working class gals, and instead of ordinary people doing the leaking, where are all the major liberal feminist institutions.
These cops oughta be fired and charged with all the computer crimes they used to comitt this horrendous act.
>My opinion is also that he likely would have been revered unniversally as a hero if he filtered ehat was exposed and did the release entirely within the US instead of to a foreign journalist on foreign soil while giving foreign countries access to all the information before it is even revieled.
my opinion is that we should stop caring if one man is a hero, patriot, or traitor. That issue is not really important.
We are doing nothing to fix the problems he exposed.
This is a larger problem in the USA, where politics is less about actions, direction, and policy, and more about popularity. We obsess over people, and ignore the fact that no actions are taken.
whoever fixes the system is the real hero. so far no one has really steped up.
So basicly New Jersey fucked up implementation, because they made everything possible that could go wrong, go wrong, then complain about it going wrong, and blamed the idea for their gross incompetence....
most people think that if you support the state, some corporation, or suck up to someone with power, they are simply and automaticly going to repay you in favors.
America also suffers from the fact, if you really started any citizens movement, without the consent/intrest of at least some power player, it would likely get denounced as "terrorist" pretty quickly, and disbanded by government agents. Later it might be rehabilitated when some drunk celebrity decides they need a makeover.
We have a slim portion of the population is politically active, as the only "valid" political positions that won't get your rights taken away, are agreeing with the major two "mainstream" parties.(see above). Most people more than passingly intrested in politics, do so for entirely selfish self-serving reasons, mainly, they see it as a vector to get ahead in a very ruthless cutthroat social latter, where the parties can turn your loyalty into intellegence, beauty, status or any other virtue at their convience
What apple is doing is like giving away "free" beer to people who paid a lot of money to join a private beer drinking club. So its not "free" beer, its "no additional cost" beer.
Its also not Free as in speech either.
the major diffrence is the apple sells both the hardware and software, while microsoft just sells the software, and other companies sell the hardware.
So apple can say "well, the operating system part is complimentory with the purchase of hardware", and other PC makers cannot say this, because they don't own the software.
In fact, other PC makers want to do this, but instead of their own software, they want to give away Free as in speech software with hardware purchases.
>With something like an Oculus-style VR headset, the "Well, if we can put a screen in front of each eye and track acceleration and orientation, ideally with a fallback for recalibration when the drift from dead-reckoning with inertial sensors starts to creep in" concept is not particularly new.
Again, it begs the question. There is still a big gap between "proof of concept", and "killer application". A product that proves the technology works, and a product that proves the technology is actually useful are two entirely diffrent things, and its something most people miss.
haha, you completely missed the point of my post, and went straight to the stereotypical tropes about overly technical linux users. Its like you didn't read my post, but just responded to what you wanted me to say.
RavenLrD20k did a nice job tearing you apart below.
It really takes a special person to understand the diffrence between proof of concept of tommorow's technological workhorses and a technological gimmick.
To the average person, they are both the same. A device with new, intresting technology that uses technology based on recently discovered science, a big refinement of current science, or technology which was otherwise previously unavailable because of a certain limit. Despite this, at current, the available device still does not perform better than what it is intended to replace, or still does not fufill most of the promises the technology should offer.
Some of these devices are technological dead ends, which are not refinable into mass producable products, or simply not truely capable of being worthwhile. Others, however are.
It takes a person with some vision, in addition to technological smarts, and understanding of the human proccess to tell the diffrence. It is not immediately apparant to the public.
the media sold the computer scene as a bunch of anti-social men who didn't know what to do with a woman. So women avoided the tech scene.
In mainstream pop culture, woman are sex objects who are more or less sold by advertisers to the "winners" or men who are able to afford the most amount of their products.
1. He started the OSI to shoutdown the FSF, divisionism fucking idiot 2. He seems to do more talking about software than he does actually writing it. 3. I get a feeling he's also somewhat responsible for the lolbertarian trending equating capitalism to rights, that we saw in the 1990s. No wonder he hates stallman, who isn't anti-capitalist, but thinks that rights exist independantly of economic systems.
>all seeing massive amount of murder involving gun while watching movies, TV, games, cartoon, anime, streaming, since there are young is considered as nothing wrong despite a lot of documented massacres
is it just me, or is blaming mass murders on video games, movies, etc... seem like a giant paranoid stretch of the imagination, that always seems to be part of a giant double standard, part of a larger witch hunt. Its all based on sensationalism is the reason you hear about it on the news.
Your also going to have to quantify "lots", because "lots" doesn't correspond to any known statisical anaylsis. and a mere tiny percentage of overall gun violence and even tiner of overall violent crime. It doesn't seems funny, because I can think of several major larger often overlooked factors, of violence, death and mayhem, that get ignored in favor of media sensationalism.
Here are some cold hard facts:
1. violent crime in the USA was at an all time high right before "DOOM", the first massively popular first person shooter was released. Since then games have gotten more violent, more mainstream, and more accessible to the public. There is a well pronounced correlation with a steady and massive fall in violent crime, that correlates almost perfectly with this.
2. Police shoot about just as many people every year(about 480), than mass murderers do in about 20 years. Thats one shooting every six months compared to one shooting every 24 hours by the police.
3. obesity claims around 110,000 people a year in the USA, which is more than all gun related deaths, accident, justified or otherwise(around 30,000), combined with drug related deaths.(another 40,000). you can even throw in "all murders"(12000), and double count gun related homocides, and still come up short of obseity.
4. The massive motivation behind most murders, gun or otherwise is niether mental illness, nor the inability to tell reality from the TV screen, but organized crime. Below that are the police.
I think you, yourself have trouble seperating fantasy from reality(because statistics don't add up). Hence your concern. Most people can in fact seperate fantasy from reality. If your affraid of being shot by a crazy person with a gun, who can't seperate reality from fantasy, you need to take a deep breath, and calm down, and stop being affraid. Thats the best solution for everyone.
Is it just me, or does anyone else here think that the UK is seriously confusing the issue on why child porn is bad, and subtituting resolution for the victims of crime, with good ol' fashion morality, which is on the edge of a very slippery slope. Child porn is illegal to protect children from being exploited. Cartoon characters are not real people, and have no rights as such, and I'd really hate to live in a world where even the law cannot tell the distinction.
This is a slippery slope, because cartoon characters have no actual birthdays, so they have no actual age, and there is no distinction between an "18 year old toon", and a "13 year old one", or with any variant of non-human, or un-realities that cartoons depict, there is really no standards, and this can be construed to arrest anyone for any cartoon depiction of sex.
Lets call this what it is, a moral outrage, and not a real protection of anyone, child or otherwise. Someone went to jail for someone elses morality. This opens up the door for more morality based arrests.
it "worked", but it had shit HW support, and a terrible UI, so that doesn't really count as "works", because a without a decent user interface your not getting much done, or your ability to get shit done was severly degraded.
Kernel 2.4 was usable, but 2.6 solidified Linux as a really great OS, and its just getting better.
but as far as UI, on linux it feels like its a dime a dozen because we've had compiz for so long, we can just make any effect we really want, and none of it really seems new.
or just bring back compiz. Windows seems to be copying their ideas around 3-5 years later.
Linux could work for the average user, at the end of the day there is no technical reason why not. After all Linux(in the form of android), dominates on the cell phone market, where the user base demands greater user friendlyness, has less patience, and wants even more bells and whistles, and is far less compitent with a computer. Linux has been shown to work marvelously with light meters, accellerometers, USB, touch screens(multi-touch even).
The big issue is how consumers by technology. They don't care about specs really, they don't care about merit. They care about branding and imagine. They want their Apple(tm), search with google(tm). Advertising and public relations gurus over the last few decades have build reality distortion bubbles, where people actively identify with brand names. GNU/Linux has no such brand name. They really don't care about "just works". Face it, windows does *not just work*, but people do whatever it takes, because they think windows is what they are supposed to be using. Microsoft presents the image of normalicy and conformity that most people identify with.
Apple on the other hand, presents an elitest artisan, fine craftsman, and intellectually supperior image, that marks the owner as part of an elite group.
Linux cleans up serverside, because it rode the wave of start up culture of the 1990s. If you had a great idea for a new website, but didn't have much capital, you could run a proffesional website with Linux, Apache, Mysql, and PHP out of an old desktop for a fraction of the cost of what constituted a proffesional server, of the day
As these companies grew, they continuted to use linux, and helped it transform into a proffesional class OS, that couldn't help but take notice.
Linux will eventually take over the desktop, and the reason is because microsoft has no real friends, and they have an ever growing list of enemies. Many of those pimpleface teenage nerds they stepped on back in the 1990s are now grown developers and sys admins. Their day dreams are now multi-million dollar products. Linux has a lot of corporate backers, many of which are household names, and some of the largest most powerful corporations in the world.
Whats eventually going to happen is that MS is going to piss off another giant like Google or Samsung to the point they want blood. You'll see a few large companies pour money, time, resouces, advertising into a distro with enough MS haters to accept them, and then use a Free as in beer product into the desktop market, to crush microsoft to prevent them from competing in other markets, by destroying their cash cow.
There will not be a year of the desktop. It will be a decade of pure hell, and microsoft is going to fight tooth and nail, and use every dirty trick in the book to keep the desktop market. They will eventually loose, because the nature of FOSS allows many companies to quietly pool resources behind a single banner, especially a not-for-profit, and allows more to join later without any real effort or diplomacy. Eventually it will be taken from them, and from that point its another 10 years before they go out of business.
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Why would they? Is someone going to point a gun at their head. They still have their "plausabile deniability".
There are plenty of third party canidates, everytime I go vote, there is no shortage.
I also don't hear any of the juevinile whining, and third grade antics out of any of them either.
the problem is that we've shut them out.
department of transportation? wait, RFID car tolls
department of education? wait, schools are run like prisons
Food and Drug Administration? Wait, they've made unreasonably expensive standards to get something approved, while at the same time letting dangerous chemicals on the market from large companies.
Fish and game?
There are plenty of package deliever companies, that exist, and I don't think that any one of them would want to start a letter delievery company. The USPS looses lots of money on it, because of a dramatic decline in the amount of money that exists.
It says in "business" soley because it is chartered by the US Government. Speaking of Which, the Post Office is the only economic business activity authorized by dirrectly by the US constitution to run, and it does so as a service.
Then we get to the next item, privacy. You are pretty foolish if an American company would not be expected to search packages, or let government agents search packages at their request. You are also a bit of a fool to think that most wouldn't just silently co-operate, or that a corporation could actually do something if served with an FBI letter that says "co-operate and shut your mouth".
Corporation Charters are given out by the US government, and they have all the personal information on all of its officers to apply the right amount of pressure.
Its also foolish to think that even if they had a specific ability to, the government has spies, armies, etc, that a corporation does not have, and if they did, they'd become the government.
stop making this a left/right issue. Its not.
and?
facing long jail sentances for doing what?
We can't even arrest spyware makers, spammers, and companies spying on you, but you can arrest some fucking kids for mucking around an exploring. Arrest is one thing. But given jail sentances on par with murder, for actions that are really no worse than distubing the peace, or disorderly conduct?
How about political activists doing the digital equivilant of an online sit in, facing charges be-fit a drug kingpin.
Lets also compare this to someone like Ray Rice who beat his fucking girlfriend. How much time did he get?
No, a long standing penchant for sticking up for a community being bullied is a good thing.
There is no pretense of democracy left, because it would be horribly embarassing when democracies didn't break out. I think we are back to "git teh terrists", and "they say bad things about the US".
durring the fappening, there was non-stop butthurt from the mainstream liberal establishment rushing to protect celebrity actor women against the anonymous hoarde of basement dwellers.
Where are they now. its some working class gals, and instead of ordinary people doing the leaking, where are all the major liberal feminist institutions.
These cops oughta be fired and charged with all the computer crimes they used to comitt this horrendous act.
>My opinion is also that he likely would have been revered unniversally as a hero if he filtered ehat was exposed and did the release entirely within the US instead of to a foreign journalist on foreign soil while giving foreign countries access to all the information before it is even revieled.
my opinion is that we should stop caring if one man is a hero, patriot, or traitor. That issue is not really important.
We are doing nothing to fix the problems he exposed.
This is a larger problem in the USA, where politics is less about actions, direction, and policy, and more about popularity. We obsess over people, and ignore the fact that no actions are taken.
whoever fixes the system is the real hero. so far no one has really steped up.
So basicly New Jersey fucked up implementation, because they made everything possible that could go wrong, go wrong, then complain about it going wrong, and blamed the idea for their gross incompetence....
yep.
most people think that if you support the state, some corporation, or suck up to someone with power, they are simply and automaticly going to repay you in favors.
America also suffers from the fact, if you really started any citizens movement, without the consent/intrest of at least some power player, it would likely get denounced as "terrorist" pretty quickly, and disbanded by government agents. Later it might be rehabilitated when some drunk celebrity decides they need a makeover.
We have a slim portion of the population is politically active, as the only "valid" political positions that won't get your rights taken away, are agreeing with the major two "mainstream" parties.(see above). Most people more than passingly intrested in politics, do so for entirely selfish self-serving reasons, mainly, they see it as a vector to get ahead in a very ruthless cutthroat social latter, where the parties can turn your loyalty into intellegence, beauty, status or any other virtue at their convience
and what is your opinion on the acitivies that the leaked documents revealed?
I have an idea, lets stop talking about who he is, and lets start talking about what he exposed, in cold hard proof of govermnet documents.
What he exposed is a government that simply ignores any and all tenets of freedom and democracy is exposes.
But lets be honest, the only time we really seem to care is when we are bombing, some other country, or egging on protestors to an unfriendly regime.
Otherwise the US doesn't give a rats ass about democracy.
no, free as in beer, not as in speech.
What apple is doing is like giving away "free" beer to people who paid a lot of money to join a private beer drinking club. So its not "free" beer, its "no additional cost" beer.
Its also not Free as in speech either.
the major diffrence is the apple sells both the hardware and software, while microsoft just sells the software, and other companies sell the hardware.
So apple can say "well, the operating system part is complimentory with the purchase of hardware", and other PC makers cannot say this, because they don't own the software.
In fact, other PC makers want to do this, but instead of their own software, they want to give away Free as in speech software with hardware purchases.
>With something like an Oculus-style VR headset, the "Well, if we can put a screen in front of each eye and track acceleration and orientation, ideally with a fallback for recalibration when the drift from dead-reckoning with inertial sensors starts to creep in" concept is not particularly new.
Again, it begs the question. There is still a big gap between "proof of concept", and "killer application". A product that proves the technology works, and a product that proves the technology is actually useful are two entirely diffrent things, and its something most people miss.
haha, you completely missed the point of my post, and went straight to the stereotypical tropes about overly technical linux users. Its like you didn't read my post, but just responded to what you wanted me to say.
RavenLrD20k did a nice job tearing you apart below.
It really takes a special person to understand the diffrence between proof of concept of tommorow's technological workhorses and a technological gimmick.
To the average person, they are both the same. A device with new, intresting technology that uses technology based on recently discovered science, a big refinement of current science, or technology which was otherwise previously unavailable because of a certain limit. Despite this, at current, the available device still does not perform better than what it is intended to replace, or still does not fufill most of the promises the technology should offer.
Some of these devices are technological dead ends, which are not refinable into mass producable products, or simply not truely capable of being worthwhile. Others, however are.
It takes a person with some vision, in addition to technological smarts, and understanding of the human proccess to tell the diffrence. It is not immediately apparant to the public.
your missing the point.
the media sold the computer scene as a bunch of anti-social men who didn't know what to do with a woman. So women avoided the tech scene.
In mainstream pop culture, woman are sex objects who are more or less sold by advertisers to the "winners" or men who are able to afford the most amount of their products.
Rampant sexism comes from mainstream culture.
it does now
https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_mono/viper.html
1. He started the OSI to shoutdown the FSF, divisionism fucking idiot
2. He seems to do more talking about software than he does actually writing it.
3. I get a feeling he's also somewhat responsible for the lolbertarian trending equating capitalism to rights, that we saw in the 1990s. No wonder he hates stallman, who isn't anti-capitalist, but thinks that rights exist independantly of economic systems.
>all seeing massive amount of murder involving gun while watching movies, TV, games, cartoon, anime, streaming, since there are young is considered as nothing wrong despite a lot of documented massacres
is it just me, or is blaming mass murders on video games, movies, etc... seem like a giant paranoid stretch of the imagination, that always seems to be part of a giant double standard, part of a larger witch hunt. Its all based on sensationalism is the reason you hear about it on the news.
Your also going to have to quantify "lots", because "lots" doesn't correspond to any known statisical anaylsis. and a mere tiny percentage of overall gun violence and even tiner of overall violent crime. It doesn't seems funny, because I can think of several major larger often overlooked factors, of violence, death and mayhem, that get ignored in favor of media sensationalism.
Here are some cold hard facts:
1. violent crime in the USA was at an all time high right before "DOOM", the first massively popular first person shooter was released. Since then games have gotten more violent, more mainstream, and more accessible to the public. There is a well pronounced correlation with a steady and massive fall in violent crime, that correlates almost perfectly with this.
2. Police shoot about just as many people every year(about 480), than mass murderers do in about 20 years. Thats one shooting every six months compared to one shooting every 24 hours by the police.
3. obesity claims around 110,000 people a year in the USA, which is more than all gun related deaths, accident, justified or otherwise(around 30,000), combined with drug related deaths.(another 40,000). you can even throw in "all murders"(12000), and double count gun related homocides, and still come up short of obseity.
4. The massive motivation behind most murders, gun or otherwise is niether mental illness, nor the inability to tell reality from the TV screen, but organized crime. Below that are the police.
I think you, yourself have trouble seperating fantasy from reality(because statistics don't add up). Hence your concern. Most people can in fact seperate fantasy from reality. If your affraid of being shot by a crazy person with a gun, who can't seperate reality from fantasy, you need to take a deep breath, and calm down, and stop being affraid. Thats the best solution for everyone.
Is it just me, or does anyone else here think that the UK is seriously confusing the issue on why child porn is bad, and subtituting resolution for the victims of crime, with good ol' fashion morality, which is on the edge of a very slippery slope. Child porn is illegal to protect children from being exploited. Cartoon characters are not real people, and have no rights as such, and I'd really hate to live in a world where even the law cannot tell the distinction.
This is a slippery slope, because cartoon characters have no actual birthdays, so they have no actual age, and there is no distinction between an "18 year old toon", and a "13 year old one", or with any variant of non-human, or un-realities that cartoons depict, there is really no standards, and this can be construed to arrest anyone for any cartoon depiction of sex.
Lets call this what it is, a moral outrage, and not a real protection of anyone, child or otherwise. Someone went to jail for someone elses morality. This opens up the door for more morality based arrests.
it "worked", but it had shit HW support, and a terrible UI, so that doesn't really count as "works", because a without a decent user interface your not getting much done, or your ability to get shit done was severly degraded.
Kernel 2.4 was usable, but 2.6 solidified Linux as a really great OS, and its just getting better.
but as far as UI, on linux it feels like its a dime a dozen because we've had compiz for so long, we can just make any effect we really want, and none of it really seems new.
or just bring back compiz. Windows seems to be copying their ideas around 3-5 years later.
yeah, just like that one, except it actually does what it says it does
Linux could work for the average user, at the end of the day there is no technical reason why not. After all Linux(in the form of android), dominates on the cell phone market, where the user base demands greater user friendlyness, has less patience, and wants even more bells and whistles, and is far less compitent with a computer. Linux has been shown to work marvelously with light meters, accellerometers, USB, touch screens(multi-touch even).
The big issue is how consumers by technology. They don't care about specs really, they don't care about merit. They care about branding and imagine. They want their Apple(tm), search with google(tm). Advertising and public relations gurus over the last few decades have build reality distortion bubbles, where people actively identify with brand names. GNU/Linux has no such brand name. They really don't care about "just works". Face it, windows does *not just work*, but people do whatever it takes, because they think windows is what they are supposed to be using. Microsoft presents the image of normalicy and conformity that most people identify with.
Apple on the other hand, presents an elitest artisan, fine craftsman, and intellectually supperior image, that marks the owner as part of an elite group.
Linux cleans up serverside, because it rode the wave of start up culture of the 1990s. If you had a great idea for a new website, but didn't have much capital, you could run a proffesional website with Linux, Apache, Mysql, and PHP out of an old desktop for a fraction of the cost of what constituted a proffesional server, of the day
As these companies grew, they continuted to use linux, and helped it transform into a proffesional class OS, that couldn't help but take notice.
Linux will eventually take over the desktop, and the reason is because microsoft has no real friends, and they have an ever growing list of enemies. Many of those pimpleface teenage nerds they stepped on back in the 1990s are now grown developers and sys admins. Their day dreams are now multi-million dollar products. Linux has a lot of corporate backers, many of which are household names, and some of the largest most powerful corporations in the world.
Whats eventually going to happen is that MS is going to piss off another giant like Google or Samsung to the point they want blood. You'll see a few large companies pour money, time, resouces, advertising into a distro with enough MS haters to accept them, and then use a Free as in beer product into the desktop market, to crush microsoft to prevent them from competing in other markets, by destroying their cash cow.
There will not be a year of the desktop. It will be a decade of pure hell, and microsoft is going to fight tooth and nail, and use every dirty trick in the book to keep the desktop market. They will eventually loose, because the nature of FOSS allows many companies to quietly pool resources behind a single banner, especially a not-for-profit, and allows more to join later without any real effort or diplomacy. Eventually it will be taken from them, and from that point its another 10 years before they go out of business.