That is so fucking bullshit its not even funny. The definition of "plenty" is debatable, as America doesn't spent nearly 1/10th what it needs to feed its poor. Let along medical care, the big one.
The military budget, however, rarely if ever gets questioned, and we have by far the largest military spending in the world. Mabey 1/3 could probably end both homelessness and hunger, and pay for universal health care.
not quite. In europe, former criminals have a right to move on with their lives after being reformed, and have their past crimes forgotten about so they can start new lives without interference, and you know, mabey not go back to jail.
Google also complies with 98% of requests from the US government, without really weighing moral implications of US law.
a web browser used to be something you paid $29.95 for at a computer store, long before you could get computer parts at staples.
Back in those days, the only people that paid, where people not on the internet, piracy was ubitquitos to internet usage.
warez, hackz, crakz, serialz, phreakz, and mp3z, you'd all find right on one poorly written site, fserv on irc, or bbs.
some you'd simply trade what you had for credits to download what you needed.
that was the 1990s.
speaking of "mp3z", they existed for about a decade, before any so called "legitimate" store existed to sell them. Warez before app stores, as pirates were the pioneers of digital distribution. Along with them, software programs to listen to mp3s as well as hardware mp3 players all came before the first online music store, by a very wide margin.
>Lots of things are highly addictive, the various drugs starting with oxy are good examples as they're perhaps more addictive then heroin and frequently prescribed.
I know, and they need to be more tightly regulated. I've been screaming about it for years. Many of them even have the nicknames "synthetic heroin", and despite being label, they do cause adiction, and many of the soul crushing effects of heroin. Prescription painkillers *are* an issue, and they are *not* ok.
>If someone is in chronic pain, whether physical or mental and a drug as cheap to manufacture and as safe as heroin is cheaply available, does it matter if they become addicted?
something about the cure being as bad as the disease.
Nothing is going to change because in our us vs them election cycle issues like this are:
1. not brought up by either major party. 2. Major party partisanism is strong, they don't vote on the issues, they vote on attacking the other guy, and fear. Few people inside the party are willing to listen to any message that doesn't come dirrectly from party HQ, in fear that it might be sabeteurs working for the other party, or they might be labeled as such by over zealous partisans, and their friends might stab them in the back. 3. No minor party really stands a chance for election. 4. If they did, they'd be attacked by both parties with information campaigns denouncing the third party as fringe, lunatics, and terrorists, by affiliated news media.(its pretty damn obvious that both major parties have affiliated news-media as propaganda) 5. Allegations which will be substainalized by the FBI doing an "investigation".(read set-up operation)
The only way to bring up an issue is to go through the Media companies in the face of PR, paying millions to have celebrities, and someone in either party consider your platform, and the 10 o'clock news won't denounce you as a terrorist with no one to back you.
Now that you want to wage cyber-war against the world, or protect against cyber-terrorism, good luck finding recruits. So instead of the best and the brightest, the NSA kow-tows to protecting the intrests of large corporations instead of the public at large. Anyone really supprised.
But yeah, I don't think the FBI is recruting top tier people anyway. You'll get the same shit-tier bean counters who learned all they knew about computers in 4 years of college, who can't remember any of it because they are disintrested in the subject matter.
>People were soliciting for hit men on Silk Road. You good with that?
Ross Ulbrich solicited a hit man once. That is it. It was not many people, or multiple people. Your making a wide reaching conspiracy where one simply does not exist. The silk road did not permit people selling hitman contracts.
>Even if Silk Road had prohibited payments for that kind of activity, don't you realize that another market allowing these transactions would exist?
This argument makes no sense. Your saying that even if person X didn't commit the crime, they are still guilty because someone else would have done it anyway. How about we arrest you now for treason, because that is what your suggesting, and even if its not, someone else is going to do it anyway. Substitute Treason for child rape, terrorism, or any other high and despicable crime
>Murder and sex trafficking are just as illegal.
niether which were being solicited on the silk road. Making the argument a strawman.
>I wonder if Kickstarter would let me set up a project so I could pay for someone to kick the shit out of you. Nothing personal, just to make a point. How does it feel when you are the target?
I was thinking we'd show up at your house at dinner time and beat you in front of your family before handcuffing you, and charging you with non-violent dissent against the current system. How does it feel when your the target?
I mean you could have found this with a 5 second trip to google. Sweet fuck. Its no secret that guard's unions and private prisons fund campaigns of politicians that promote stronger sentancing. This is not incidental.
the very concept of a private prison is absurd. There is no market for prisons, and there can't be. Its very existence is corruption.(all business is generated dirrectly by lobying), and they don't really sell a product, and exist soley on government given taxpayers dollars.
Its highly adictive, to the point that someone adicted to heroin no longer consents to being on heroin, but rather must continue to feed a habbit. Thats whats wrong with it.
speaking of money owed, you can't afford me. Plain and simple. Do you think I'd just port your shit for nothing? Or just talk to Redhat about support. I mean, your already paying for it.
What really does systemd break in your legacy operations? journald has a config option to turn syslog back on again. It'd be damn easy to rewrite/etc/init.d/ shims if your devs where dense enough to hardcode calls to bash scripts. No really, system calls are in the kernel, and most of the rest are in various libs.
Redhat is by far the leader in Linux technology. RedHat had some hand in it. Not a bad move on your companies part, expecially if you want support. Who else. Oh, speaking of which, LP is an employee at RedHat, do you not think that if systemd had no merit RedHat would continue for its paid development?
Its not just RedHat, its Debian, and Arch, and Ubuntu, and behind that, everyone else who is downstream of them, which between RH and Debian, is around 90% of the Linux market, and 99% of production capable Linux(as opposed to android/linux) solutions.
>1. I will not recommend that we use RHEL 7 for anything
So basicly your going to cling to outdated software soley because you can't be bothered to learn a new system, and your going to bring your preachy dogma into the work place? systemd works rather well actually. The arguments against it are dogma, "sayings", and conspirtard grade paranoia that is completely unfounded. You just don't want to learn something new, and you assume because you've been doing things one way for so long that its the right way.
>POSIX compliant OS
linux was never a POSIX compliant OS, and likely never will be. No one in the GNU project *ever* had UNIX compliance as its goal, and that extends to the Linux kernel as well.
Speaking of the "ooooh-shiny" crowd, OSX does have POSIX compliance. Go use that. Oh wait, it sucks for production enviroments. What the fuck do you need posix compliance for? UNIX is dead. UNIX has been dead since around 2003. The Linux kernel is the new fucking standard.
No, its going to be a long slow proccess eliminating gangs. Cutting off their *easy* source of income is the first step. The next is breaking them up before they find something else as lucrative, because they will try something else.
you don't need to be in an altered state of mind to see that the war on drugs has failed misrably, and that the biggest problem with drugs are not the drugs themselves but the problems that arise around manufacture, distribution, and the type of people that manufacture and distribute them, as well as the people who enforce the laws.
There is nothing so bad about any drug to include heroin(which I think is downright terrible), that is in the same leauge as the abusive authority of the DEA, which has for the past 30 years, ignored any and all constitutional safeguards and protections, to include due proccesss(civil fortieture), and habeus corpus(parallel construction), to virtually fail at its goal of keeping drugs off the streets. Giving up our rights did not do anything for us.
You don't have to be high to see that. You need some common fucking sense.
>When a warrant is signed by a judge, Law Enforcement has every right to force execution of the warrant by just about any means they see fit to use. If that means they break down your door, toss in a flash bang and do thousands of dollars damage, so be it.
I don't know where people keep getting this idea. Mabey the fact we are desensitized to it, but no they don't. Cops have the right to arrest whoever the warrant is for, they have a right to seize whatever the warrant tells them to seize, and they have the right to search whatever the warrant tells them to search.
All this must be done with the reasonable minimum amount of force reasonable to accomplishing their goals. The way LE operates, and its more or less tollerated by society, but by no means legal, or even fairly standard. Most of the time, believe it or not, cops do follow procedure. The problem is that there is zero reprocussions for when they do not, and they fail enough that it becomes a real problem for society, as a %5 failure rate can scale real quick in terms of scale.
>This is a PR attempt by the lawyer to gin up the press in an effort to get public opinion on their side in hopes that the prosecutor might be tempted to lower the charges or something.
pretty much. That said my sole argument in favor of Ross/DPR/Silk Road is that its the lesser of two evils, and that the system he operated was marginally more fair, safer, and less destructive to society than the Cartels and their street dealers.
>Think of this as a hail Mary pass by the home team on homecoming night when they are down by 3 and only have 10 seconds left to play. Chances are this won't work and they are going to loose.
you never know, Americans believe some dumb shit. Between celebrities and politicians, most Americans will believe a lot of dumb shit some PR asshole has to say if he strikes the right nerves.
Except all the people around the core of the GNU and Linux communities tend to disagree with you, and in reality, the Poeterring haters are a small minority of fringe users, rarely contributers. Meanwhile everyone who actually does most of the rest of the work on GNU, Linux and associated projects to include distributions think his work is awesome.
I'm rooting for the Silk Road, not because I agree with it, but because its lesser of two evils between them, traditional drug cartels, and the street pushers, who enforce their reign with viloence.
So the Silk Road offered a good alternative to street gangs, measurablly better in every way. Better product(less chance of killing/hurting people with impurities), less violence, Less domination, control and indimidation on the streets. Less hiearchy.
Sure the street gangs and cartels could also sell on the Silk Road, but that would make them adapt to its culture and end most of the endemic problems with violence associated with them.
The war on drugs has gone too far. for the past 35 years the word "drugs" has been code word for "surrender all liberties, and make exceptions to all rules".
There is nothing so bad to the worst of any drugs that is worth giving up this much freedom for.
If you've actually read his blog hughpickens.com, that now links to a wikipedia page, its pretty clear he is working for big oil. If his username was not enough to see his posts as self-promotion, reading his website should tell you that media and promotion are more than just a hobby for him
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That is so fucking bullshit its not even funny. The definition of "plenty" is debatable, as America doesn't spent nearly 1/10th what it needs to feed its poor. Let along medical care, the big one.
The military budget, however, rarely if ever gets questioned, and we have by far the largest military spending in the world. Mabey 1/3 could probably end both homelessness and hunger, and pay for universal health care.
not quite. In europe, former criminals have a right to move on with their lives after being reformed, and have their past crimes forgotten about so they can start new lives without interference, and you know, mabey not go back to jail.
Google also complies with 98% of requests from the US government, without really weighing moral implications of US law.
the hangup on adiction is that it takes a person's right to consent away.
air, water, food, and human contact are not addictions, they are human neccesities.
a web browser used to be something you paid $29.95 for at a computer store, long before you could get computer parts at staples.
Back in those days, the only people that paid, where people not on the internet, piracy was ubitquitos to internet usage.
warez, hackz, crakz, serialz, phreakz, and mp3z, you'd all find right on one poorly written site, fserv on irc, or bbs.
some you'd simply trade what you had for credits to download what you needed.
that was the 1990s.
speaking of "mp3z", they existed for about a decade, before any so called "legitimate" store existed to sell them. Warez before app stores, as pirates were the pioneers of digital distribution. Along with them, software programs to listen to mp3s as well as hardware mp3 players all came before the first online music store, by a very wide margin.
>Lots of things are highly addictive, the various drugs starting with oxy are good examples as they're perhaps more addictive then heroin and frequently prescribed.
I know, and they need to be more tightly regulated. I've been screaming about it for years. Many of them even have the nicknames "synthetic heroin", and despite being label, they do cause adiction, and many of the soul crushing effects of heroin. Prescription painkillers *are* an issue, and they are *not* ok.
>If someone is in chronic pain, whether physical or mental and a drug as cheap to manufacture and as safe as heroin is cheaply available, does it matter if they become addicted?
something about the cure being as bad as the disease.
Nothing is going to change because in our us vs them election cycle issues like this are:
1. not brought up by either major party.
2. Major party partisanism is strong, they don't vote on the issues, they vote on attacking the other guy, and fear. Few people inside the party are willing to listen to any message that doesn't come dirrectly from party HQ, in fear that it might be sabeteurs working for the other party, or they might be labeled as such by over zealous partisans, and their friends might stab them in the back.
3. No minor party really stands a chance for election.
4. If they did, they'd be attacked by both parties with information campaigns denouncing the third party as fringe, lunatics, and terrorists, by affiliated news media.(its pretty damn obvious that both major parties have affiliated news-media as propaganda)
5. Allegations which will be substainalized by the FBI doing an "investigation".(read set-up operation)
The only way to bring up an issue is to go through the Media companies in the face of PR, paying millions to have celebrities, and someone in either party consider your platform, and the 10 o'clock news won't denounce you as a terrorist with no one to back you.
Now that you want to wage cyber-war against the world, or protect against cyber-terrorism, good luck finding recruits. So instead of the best and the brightest, the NSA kow-tows to protecting the intrests of large corporations instead of the public at large. Anyone really supprised.
But yeah, I don't think the FBI is recruting top tier people anyway. You'll get the same shit-tier bean counters who learned all they knew about computers in 4 years of college, who can't remember any of it because they are disintrested in the subject matter.
>People were soliciting for hit men on Silk Road. You good with that?
Ross Ulbrich solicited a hit man once. That is it. It was not many people, or multiple people. Your making a wide reaching conspiracy where one simply does not exist. The silk road did not permit people selling hitman contracts.
>Even if Silk Road had prohibited payments for that kind of activity, don't you realize that another market allowing these transactions would exist?
This argument makes no sense. Your saying that even if person X didn't commit the crime, they are still guilty because someone else would have done it anyway. How about we arrest you now for treason, because that is what your suggesting, and even if its not, someone else is going to do it anyway. Substitute Treason for child rape, terrorism, or any other high and despicable crime
>Murder and sex trafficking are just as illegal.
niether which were being solicited on the silk road. Making the argument a strawman.
>I wonder if Kickstarter would let me set up a project so I could pay for someone to kick the shit out of you. Nothing personal, just to make a point. How does it feel when you are the target?
I was thinking we'd show up at your house at dinner time and beat you in front of your family before handcuffing you, and charging you with non-violent dissent against the current system. How does it feel when your the target?
http://ordinary-gentlemen.com/blog/2011/06/05/the-role-of-the-prison-guards-union-in-californias-troubled-prison-system
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Correctional_Peace_Officers_Association
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/09/20/2658701/private-prison-firms-quotas-cells-coffers/
I mean you could have found this with a 5 second trip to google. Sweet fuck. Its no secret that guard's unions and private prisons fund campaigns of politicians that promote stronger sentancing. This is not incidental.
the very concept of a private prison is absurd. There is no market for prisons, and there can't be. Its very existence is corruption.(all business is generated dirrectly by lobying), and they don't really sell a product, and exist soley on government given taxpayers dollars.
theft is easier to combat, though, and its nowhere near as lucrative. Far more money, far lower risk per transaction.
Society has a far lower tollerance for theft, and the amount of money in stealing is far less than drugs, and its far riskier.
Its highly adictive, to the point that someone adicted to heroin no longer consents to being on heroin, but rather must continue to feed a habbit. Thats whats wrong with it.
speaking of money owed, you can't afford me. Plain and simple. Do you think I'd just port your shit for nothing? Or just talk to Redhat about support. I mean, your already paying for it.
/etc/init.d/ shims if your devs where dense enough to hardcode calls to bash scripts. No really, system calls are in the kernel, and most of the rest are in various libs.
What really does systemd break in your legacy operations? journald has a config option to turn syslog back on again. It'd be damn easy to rewrite
What actually fucking breaks? Do you ever know?
Honestly: Probably not, but it just might have overstepped its bounds as LE does quite frequently.
I'm just using the opperunity to get on my soap box to decry the disasterous war on drugs. Something that I don't think can be done enough.
>. My workplace actually buys from RedHat
Redhat is by far the leader in Linux technology. RedHat had some hand in it. Not a bad move on your companies part, expecially if you want support. Who else. Oh, speaking of which, LP is an employee at RedHat, do you not think that if systemd had no merit RedHat would continue for its paid development?
Its not just RedHat, its Debian, and Arch, and Ubuntu, and behind that, everyone else who is downstream of them, which between RH and Debian, is around 90% of the Linux market, and 99% of production capable Linux(as opposed to android/linux) solutions.
>1. I will not recommend that we use RHEL 7 for anything
So basicly your going to cling to outdated software soley because you can't be bothered to learn a new system, and your going to bring your preachy dogma into the work place? systemd works rather well actually. The arguments against it are dogma, "sayings", and conspirtard grade paranoia that is completely unfounded. You just don't want to learn something new, and you assume because you've been doing things one way for so long that its the right way.
>POSIX compliant OS
linux was never a POSIX compliant OS, and likely never will be. No one in the GNU project *ever* had UNIX compliance as its goal, and that extends to the Linux kernel as well.
https://personal.opengroup.org/~ajosey/tr28-07-2003.txt
Speaking of the "ooooh-shiny" crowd, OSX does have POSIX compliance. Go use that. Oh wait, it sucks for production enviroments. What the fuck do you need posix compliance for? UNIX is dead. UNIX has been dead since around 2003. The Linux kernel is the new fucking standard.
>We'd eliminate overnight the drug gangs
No, its going to be a long slow proccess eliminating gangs. Cutting off their *easy* source of income is the first step. The next is breaking them up before they find something else as lucrative, because they will try something else.
you don't need to be in an altered state of mind to see that the war on drugs has failed misrably, and that the biggest problem with drugs are not the drugs themselves but the problems that arise around manufacture, distribution, and the type of people that manufacture and distribute them, as well as the people who enforce the laws.
There is nothing so bad about any drug to include heroin(which I think is downright terrible), that is in the same leauge as the abusive authority of the DEA, which has for the past 30 years, ignored any and all constitutional safeguards and protections, to include due proccesss(civil fortieture), and habeus corpus(parallel construction), to virtually fail at its goal of keeping drugs off the streets. Giving up our rights did not do anything for us.
You don't have to be high to see that. You need some common fucking sense.
>When a warrant is signed by a judge, Law Enforcement has every right to force execution of the warrant by just about any means they see fit to use. If that means they break down your door, toss in a flash bang and do thousands of dollars damage, so be it.
I don't know where people keep getting this idea. Mabey the fact we are desensitized to it, but no they don't. Cops have the right to arrest whoever the warrant is for, they have a right to seize whatever the warrant tells them to seize, and they have the right to search whatever the warrant tells them to search.
All this must be done with the reasonable minimum amount of force reasonable to accomplishing their goals. The way LE operates, and its more or less tollerated by society, but by no means legal, or even fairly standard. Most of the time, believe it or not, cops do follow procedure. The problem is that there is zero reprocussions for when they do not, and they fail enough that it becomes a real problem for society, as a %5 failure rate can scale real quick in terms of scale.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Use_of_force_continuum
>This is a PR attempt by the lawyer to gin up the press in an effort to get public opinion on their side in hopes that the prosecutor might be tempted to lower the charges or something.
pretty much. That said my sole argument in favor of Ross/DPR/Silk Road is that its the lesser of two evils, and that the system he operated was marginally more fair, safer, and less destructive to society than the Cartels and their street dealers.
>Think of this as a hail Mary pass by the home team on homecoming night when they are down by 3 and only have 10 seconds left to play. Chances are this won't work and they are going to loose.
you never know, Americans believe some dumb shit. Between celebrities and politicians, most Americans will believe a lot of dumb shit some PR asshole has to say if he strikes the right nerves.
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but we have an obvious problem with addition.
thats 205% of the population reporting in, and somehow only one person, an AC nonetheless picked up on it.
reading the article it says "willing to move to this country" is no the same as "top destination".
I don't know if your trolling or genuinely this dumb
Except all the people around the core of the GNU and Linux communities tend to disagree with you, and in reality, the Poeterring haters are a small minority of fringe users, rarely contributers. Meanwhile everyone who actually does most of the rest of the work on GNU, Linux and associated projects to include distributions think his work is awesome.
I'm rooting for the Silk Road, not because I agree with it, but because its lesser of two evils between them, traditional drug cartels, and the street pushers, who enforce their reign with viloence.
So the Silk Road offered a good alternative to street gangs, measurablly better in every way. Better product(less chance of killing/hurting people with impurities), less violence, Less domination, control and indimidation on the streets. Less hiearchy.
Sure the street gangs and cartels could also sell on the Silk Road, but that would make them adapt to its culture and end most of the endemic problems with violence associated with them.
The war on drugs has gone too far. for the past 35 years the word "drugs" has been code word for "surrender all liberties, and make exceptions to all rules".
There is nothing so bad to the worst of any drugs that is worth giving up this much freedom for.
If you've actually read his blog hughpickens.com, that now links to a wikipedia page, its pretty clear he is working for big oil. If his username was not enough to see his posts as self-promotion, reading his website should tell you that media and promotion are more than just a hobby for him
He's also a pretentious douche bag to deal with.
I guess its hard to keep a level head when half the scene hates you.
and instead of bitching and complaining, who else was trying to either fix Pulse, or write a better replacement
*crickets*
thats right, fucking no one.