thats a bit unfair, because there are only a few real distros that account for the majority of linux users, and Only two real parent distros, of RedHat and Debian, which account for over 95% of linux installs, and just about all "production" machines.
Many of the distros are the exact same as the parent, but are specialized for a specific task or piece of hardware, which gives linux the legendary flexability.(like raspian), and lets it work on anything.
One of the big incompatibility between these two worlds was initsystems, which is now rectified by universal adoption of system.
Oh, and for the most part, they use the same libraries, same system software, same kernel, so most software targeted for one, compiles against them all, except in rare corner cases of version mismatch, but even still, its not unreasonable to expect a competant guru to do some minor port work to get them running.
This is very much unlike the world of the x86 BSDs.
google does not hold fast when presented by National Security Letters, and other bits of government and media company ordered censorship, you know, when it matters most, such as actual policy discussions on the line, not covering up personal dirty laundry so someone can go on living their life.
Google is flying a huge double standard cooperating with the US authorities censorship of information for state and corporate, while snubbing european rules that protect common citizens.
redactions happen on page 12 in small print, and no one ever reads them. They correct bad information all the time, but in a format that most people miss, because its so obscure. Your not alone in missing it, but your somewhat correct that it almost might as well not exist, because its published in a way no one notices.
this is absolutely correct. However, Americans love a good lynch mob, and American Media likes to blow things out of proportion, especially non-existant threats posed by people who are outsiders to society, government, and the econony. In fact its essential to People feeling fearful and needing a large government to protect them.
There is no "free speech" either, as the government censors, and the press covers up, or simply hushes up the worst done by people in power. There is a "privledge of being forgotten", which is something celebrities, the rich, politicians, and those who've earned their favor(like witness protection), have.
"the public has the right to know", and "threats to the public", are some what sham answers, because they are very much one sided
at least in debian you can dpkg-reconfigure popularity-contest, and it asks you if you want to participate and is fairly transparent about the proccess.
Mabey either shift the resources back into housing the homeless, mabey we can close the prisons, save some money and give it back to the tax payers.
We could probably rent the grounds to paintballers, airsofties and the military for tacticle manuevers, as all three groups would probably go apeshit nuts to do this.
We might turn this into parks, perhaps save one or two as a muesem to epic failure of mass incarceration of non-violent offenders.
There are a handful of links between PETA and ALF, but the two are radically diffrent organizations. That said, PETA does not engage in terrorism on its own right.
I personally think PETA is fucking insane, but terrorists they are not, and you've shown me nothing conclusive that PETA is actively involved in terrorism, other than linking to ALF. Don't get me wrong, I'm not apologizing for PETA, and I think they are a bunch of jackasses, but I really don't think they are any worse than garden variety trolls. The major diffrence is that if you ignore PETA, they'll go away. If you ignore ALF, they'll blow you up.
ALF(like their inspiration ELF), are, as you've stated real terrorist groups. PETA and greenpeace are not. There are much broader implications than PETA and greenpeace in being overly broad with your classification of terrorism and terrorist groups. This, and how the US government treats terrorism are a far bigger issue that effects far more people than terrorism itself.
Look: This is an init system, not a new kernel, and not a new c library. It does not take system calls. All programs will still run. All you really need to do to port daemons is make new systemd units to replace scripts in. Unless you were dense enough to hardcode those calls, and then simple bash script shims that function the same. The other big issue is you might need syslog functionaility, something you can turn on in systemd.
your code will work just fine. I know this, because I know how a UNIX-like OS works.
I can already tell your outfit is a joke. you don't have a testing enviroment? Where is devops? systemd is Free as in beer as well as Free as in speech. I won't tell you how to do your job, but simply downloading CentOS, something Redhat actually approves of, and trying it in your testing enviroment, before you load it on your RHEL servers
If I worked for your company, I would guarantee your code would run on RHEL7. Your not paying me so I can't guaruntee anything for you, or more correctly, I won't. That is the exact wrong attitude.
I took a few business courses in college and they warned me about people like you. They said if people either stick to dogma, or can't tell you why things work, leave, because they don't have a clue what they are doing.
but the point is, to force the cops to need a warrant, or the courts to need a subopena, where you have other methods fo defending yourself such as lawyers. We aren't trying to stop all police actions, just police abuse. One of the tell-tale signs is subversive activity, such as the cops not fully disclosing to the public, or even the government they report to the full extent of their activities, making it impossible for any true reform of the police.
When you have strong encryption, you make it harder for the police to be subversive, electronicly.
Even with "manditory key disclosure" durring criminal trials, you have the benefit of needing to go to trial to give up your keys. The police can't randomly search your data, which encryption the police cannot break becomes a major lever against police abusing their power. Thats the point. They need a warrant, which means they need a judge, and probable cause, and a paper trail you can fight in court.
Even if thats all bogus, it becomes public record, so the public can have an informed debate over who the police are searching and why.
As opposed to breakable crypto, where the cops can just crack anyone's setup, without the need for justification.
I don't think anyone actually supports PETA. I think the vast majority of the nerd population is fine with camels, or at least from reading this thread.
PETA concerns itself with nothing more than self-promotion than anything else, and they are they are obviously the "westboro baptist church" of protest organizations.
I think I speak for everyone when we consider anyone following the advice of PETA an extremely bad thing, and any organization that actually listens to PETA would be strikes against them.
I would be really disapointed in google if they listened to a word PETA says.
>implying greenpeace and PETA are a terrorist organizations.
exactly what we meant when the word "terrorist" has become an overused buzzword for everyone we don't like, in order to bypass any and all laws regarding their rights and saftey.
PETA might be an absurd organization, thats laughable, but terrorists they are not.
Greenpeace might be a little harsh, but they are also not terrorists.
There is absolute zero outrage when someone of the working class has their unauthorized nudes posted, and revenge porn sites exist with impunity. This is not going to change this. I don't give a fuck about celebrities. Zero fucks given.
The real question is, why is this only brought up when its a bunch of celebrities. Why do "feminist" groups seem to use their resources to defend celebrities and leave working class gals in the dark. Take this, along with your pink fracking drill bits and shove it up your ass. Feminism has turned into a privledge for an elite of women who are able to afford it.
thats somewhat bullshit, because rubber hose cryptography is almost as much fantasy as what they critize. What is depicted is likely mabey %1 of all scenarios where encryption would help you.
Beating the password out of someone is more an act of romantic fiction, than standard practice, just about anywhere in the world. While XKCD recognizes that most nerds obviously aren't James Bonds, what they miss is most digital adversaries aren't James Bond Villans either.
1. Most of the time, the person is simply going to either steal, or subversively copy your encrypted disk, so you don't even know they are looking for it. Read: what the NSA or any other wiretap is doing. They count on suprise that you don't know your being monitored. Hence they can't hit you, and expect that you remain unaware they are after your data. If they can't break the cipher, they can't break it. More likely, its not going to be a three letter agency, and just a common theif, who, will not have the resources or ability to try beat you for the password, and certainly does not want to confront you, just get your information without you finding out and changing your passwords.
2. Another situation is where they do confront you, but they simply don't either have the political will to beat you for your password. More common than you'd think, because, well, simply put, beating people doesn't make a regime popular with its constituents. Your going to have to be accused of something fairly bad before it becomes acceptable. If you have a hidden encryption scheme like TC does, and they don't know if its there for sure, they could beat you all day long and they'd never know if you were telling the truth or not. Torture is not effective. This has been known for centuries. Despite what the defeatists will tell you. Torture in war is done more to break the spirit, will and emotions of the enemy than it is for information. Or just for the kicks or emotional benefit of really pissed off angry people.
you can look up US case law on this.
3. If your adversary is in the government, your adversary might not be the entire government or entire system. Encryption that police cannot recover on their own, might help you, if the cops are crooked as shit, but the DA, Judge, or someone else in the system cares. Encryption that can last long enough to make it into the court room, can save your otherwise wild and henious accusations against police misbehavior. Don't give the cops the opperuntity to tamper with the evidence, or force them to hand you a subopena or warrant, or hold out on giving up your keys until talking with a lawyer will give you many more options.
they could be, because google has localized search engines for just about every country it does business in. They can, and do filter content based on local laws of various countries.
They've made no bones about blocking various content in various countries due to laws like the DMCA.
not quite how that works. Thats like saying we don't need laws against murder because most Americans don't murder people.
This is about google complying with european law, and it selectively enforcing european's rights based on its own perogatives, basicly its rather American view on criminal justice which revolves around the witch hunt, and very harsh black and white theories, that people are either good or bad, and its really a waste of time trying to reform criminals.
Again, they don't challenge American laws like the DMCA, and NSA/FBI security letters under freedom of speech or right to privacy.
If they complied with all laws in countries they operated in, and stated such, they'd be forgiven as working within the system
If they complied with none of them, and held universal principles like Free speech, it'd be awesome, and unbiased.
If google refused to recognize the authority of any country of which it did no business in, again, fair for not letting a country excede its own jurisdiction, and enforce laws outside its boundries.
But what google is telling the world, is that they are an American company, and follow American laws, unquestionablly, while disregarding laws everywhere else, even in their overseas operations. The issue is that American law, byzantine American laws are being made to apply world wide, to everyone else, with little or no recourse.
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thats a bit unfair, because there are only a few real distros that account for the majority of linux users, and Only two real parent distros, of RedHat and Debian, which account for over 95% of linux installs, and just about all "production" machines.
Many of the distros are the exact same as the parent, but are specialized for a specific task or piece of hardware, which gives linux the legendary flexability.(like raspian), and lets it work on anything.
One of the big incompatibility between these two worlds was initsystems, which is now rectified by universal adoption of system.
Oh, and for the most part, they use the same libraries, same system software, same kernel, so most software targeted for one, compiles against them all, except in rare corner cases of version mismatch, but even still, its not unreasonable to expect a competant guru to do some minor port work to get them running.
This is very much unlike the world of the x86 BSDs.
google does not hold fast when presented by National Security Letters, and other bits of government and media company ordered censorship, you know, when it matters most, such as actual policy discussions on the line, not covering up personal dirty laundry so someone can go on living their life.
Google is flying a huge double standard cooperating with the US authorities censorship of information for state and corporate, while snubbing european rules that protect common citizens.
redactions happen on page 12 in small print, and no one ever reads them. They correct bad information all the time, but in a format that most people miss, because its so obscure. Your not alone in missing it, but your somewhat correct that it almost might as well not exist, because its published in a way no one notices.
this is absolutely correct. However, Americans love a good lynch mob, and American Media likes to blow things out of proportion, especially non-existant threats posed by people who are outsiders to society, government, and the econony. In fact its essential to People feeling fearful and needing a large government to protect them.
There is no "free speech" either, as the government censors, and the press covers up, or simply hushes up the worst done by people in power. There is a "privledge of being forgotten", which is something celebrities, the rich, politicians, and those who've earned their favor(like witness protection), have.
"the public has the right to know", and "threats to the public", are some what sham answers, because they are very much one sided
at least in debian you can dpkg-reconfigure popularity-contest, and it asks you if you want to participate and is fairly transparent about the proccess.
I can trollolol people in jolly good England all day long, but if they troll us back, we can report them?
bloody hell.
Helvetica was the default font of OS classic back in the 1990s
Mabey either shift the resources back into housing the homeless, mabey we can close the prisons, save some money and give it back to the tax payers.
We could probably rent the grounds to paintballers, airsofties and the military for tacticle manuevers, as all three groups would probably go apeshit nuts to do this.
We might turn this into parks, perhaps save one or two as a muesem to epic failure of mass incarceration of non-violent offenders.
There are a handful of links between PETA and ALF, but the two are radically diffrent organizations. That said, PETA does not engage in terrorism on its own right.
I personally think PETA is fucking insane, but terrorists they are not, and you've shown me nothing conclusive that PETA is actively involved in terrorism, other than linking to ALF. Don't get me wrong, I'm not apologizing for PETA, and I think they are a bunch of jackasses, but I really don't think they are any worse than garden variety trolls. The major diffrence is that if you ignore PETA, they'll go away. If you ignore ALF, they'll blow you up.
ALF(like their inspiration ELF), are, as you've stated real terrorist groups. PETA and greenpeace are not. There are much broader implications than PETA and greenpeace in being overly broad with your classification of terrorism and terrorist groups. This, and how the US government treats terrorism are a far bigger issue that effects far more people than terrorism itself.
For a low end webserver, the HW of a cellphone will do, as will many ARM development boards like odroid xdroid, beagleboard.
In addition there is pogoplug, plug computers, etc....
This has been done already, and there are already many viable solutions, commericially
very loosely enforced, I've been running home servers for over a decade.
Look: This is an init system, not a new kernel, and not a new c library. It does not take system calls. All programs will still run. All you really need to do to port daemons is make new systemd units to replace scripts in. Unless you were dense enough to hardcode those calls, and then simple bash script shims that function the same. The other big issue is you might need syslog functionaility, something you can turn on in systemd.
your code will work just fine. I know this, because I know how a UNIX-like OS works.
I can already tell your outfit is a joke. you don't have a testing enviroment? Where is devops? systemd is Free as in beer as well as Free as in speech. I won't tell you how to do your job, but simply downloading CentOS, something Redhat actually approves of, and trying it in your testing enviroment, before you load it on your RHEL servers
If I worked for your company, I would guarantee your code would run on RHEL7. Your not paying me so I can't guaruntee anything for you, or more correctly, I won't. That is the exact wrong attitude.
I took a few business courses in college and they warned me about people like you. They said if people either stick to dogma, or can't tell you why things work, leave, because they don't have a clue what they are doing.
When it comes to big scary unknown things like computer hacking, just about all bit of common decency goes out the window.
They held kevin mitnick without charge for a long time before letting him out. That was pre-9/11.
They just have to claim your an "enemy combatant", or some other class that no applying law applies too
I have no idea.
but the point is, to force the cops to need a warrant, or the courts to need a subopena, where you have other methods fo defending yourself such as lawyers. We aren't trying to stop all police actions, just police abuse. One of the tell-tale signs is subversive activity, such as the cops not fully disclosing to the public, or even the government they report to the full extent of their activities, making it impossible for any true reform of the police.
When you have strong encryption, you make it harder for the police to be subversive, electronicly.
not really.
Even with "manditory key disclosure" durring criminal trials, you have the benefit of needing to go to trial to give up your keys. The police can't randomly search your data, which encryption the police cannot break becomes a major lever against police abusing their power. Thats the point. They need a warrant, which means they need a judge, and probable cause, and a paper trail you can fight in court.
Even if thats all bogus, it becomes public record, so the public can have an informed debate over who the police are searching and why.
As opposed to breakable crypto, where the cops can just crack anyone's setup, without the need for justification.
they are even below that, to the level of the westboro baptist church.
If by win, you mean "please everyone on planet earth", then no.
But if you read the rest of the comments, you'll see the rest of us think PETA is flaming mad, and need to shut the fuck up.
Add one more to your list:
More people would seriously be pissed at google for kow-towing to PETA that people would ever be pissed at google for using the camels.
I think we need to revamp all articles about PETA to "PETA threatens technology XYZ with their batshit insane ramblings"
please don't lump PETA in with greenpeace.
I mean greenpeace might do some dumb shit, but they aren't this level of dumb.
If you need someone to lump PETA in with, make it the Westboro Baptist Church.
I don't think anyone actually supports PETA. I think the vast majority of the nerd population is fine with camels, or at least from reading this thread.
PETA concerns itself with nothing more than self-promotion than anything else, and they are they are obviously the "westboro baptist church" of protest organizations.
I think I speak for everyone when we consider anyone following the advice of PETA an extremely bad thing, and any organization that actually listens to PETA would be strikes against them.
I would be really disapointed in google if they listened to a word PETA says.
>implying greenpeace and PETA are a terrorist organizations.
exactly what we meant when the word "terrorist" has become an overused buzzword for everyone we don't like, in order to bypass any and all laws regarding their rights and saftey.
PETA might be an absurd organization, thats laughable, but terrorists they are not.
Greenpeace might be a little harsh, but they are also not terrorists.
There is absolute zero outrage when someone of the working class has their unauthorized nudes posted, and revenge porn sites exist with impunity. This is not going to change this. I don't give a fuck about celebrities. Zero fucks given.
The real question is, why is this only brought up when its a bunch of celebrities. Why do "feminist" groups seem to use their resources to defend celebrities and leave working class gals in the dark. Take this, along with your pink fracking drill bits and shove it up your ass. Feminism has turned into a privledge for an elite of women who are able to afford it.
thats somewhat bullshit, because rubber hose cryptography is almost as much fantasy as what they critize. What is depicted is likely mabey %1 of all scenarios where encryption would help you.
Beating the password out of someone is more an act of romantic fiction, than standard practice, just about anywhere in the world. While XKCD recognizes that most nerds obviously aren't James Bonds, what they miss is most digital adversaries aren't James Bond Villans either.
1. Most of the time, the person is simply going to either steal, or subversively copy your encrypted disk, so you don't even know they are looking for it. Read: what the NSA or any other wiretap is doing. They count on suprise that you don't know your being monitored. Hence they can't hit you, and expect that you remain unaware they are after your data. If they can't break the cipher, they can't break it. More likely, its not going to be a three letter agency, and just a common theif, who, will not have the resources or ability to try beat you for the password, and certainly does not want to confront you, just get your information without you finding out and changing your passwords.
2. Another situation is where they do confront you, but they simply don't either have the political will to beat you for your password. More common than you'd think, because, well, simply put, beating people doesn't make a regime popular with its constituents. Your going to have to be accused of something fairly bad before it becomes acceptable. If you have a hidden encryption scheme like TC does, and they don't know if its there for sure, they could beat you all day long and they'd never know if you were telling the truth or not. Torture is not effective. This has been known for centuries. Despite what the defeatists will tell you. Torture in war is done more to break the spirit, will and emotions of the enemy than it is for information. Or just for the kicks or emotional benefit of really pissed off angry people.
you can look up US case law on this.
3. If your adversary is in the government, your adversary might not be the entire government or entire system. Encryption that police cannot recover on their own, might help you, if the cops are crooked as shit, but the DA, Judge, or someone else in the system cares. Encryption that can last long enough to make it into the court room, can save your otherwise wild and henious accusations against police misbehavior. Don't give the cops the opperuntity to tamper with the evidence, or force them to hand you a subopena or warrant, or hold out on giving up your keys until talking with a lawyer will give you many more options.
they could be, because google has localized search engines for just about every country it does business in. They can, and do filter content based on local laws of various countries.
They've made no bones about blocking various content in various countries due to laws like the DMCA.
not quite how that works. Thats like saying we don't need laws against murder because most Americans don't murder people.
This is about google complying with european law, and it selectively enforcing european's rights based on its own perogatives, basicly its rather American view on criminal justice which revolves around the witch hunt, and very harsh black and white theories, that people are either good or bad, and its really a waste of time trying to reform criminals.
Again, they don't challenge American laws like the DMCA, and NSA/FBI security letters under freedom of speech or right to privacy.
If they complied with all laws in countries they operated in, and stated such, they'd be forgiven as working within the system
If they complied with none of them, and held universal principles like Free speech, it'd be awesome, and unbiased.
If google refused to recognize the authority of any country of which it did no business in, again, fair for not letting a country excede its own jurisdiction, and enforce laws outside its boundries.
But what google is telling the world, is that they are an American company, and follow American laws, unquestionablly, while disregarding laws everywhere else, even in their overseas operations. The issue is that American law, byzantine American laws are being made to apply world wide, to everyone else, with little or no recourse.